Journal of the House of Commons: Volume 3, 1643-1644. Originally published by His Majesty's Stationery Office, London, 1802.
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Die Mercurii, Julii 24, 1644.
Leave of Absence.
ORDERED, That Mr. Percivall, a Member of this House, shall have the Leave of this House to go into the Country.
Message from Lords.
A Message from the Lords, by Serjeant Finehe and Dr. Aylett;
The Lords have sent down an Ordinance concerning Parks; in which they desire the Concurrence of this House. They also desire to put you in mind, concerning the placing of Mr. Clerke, one of the Assembly of Divines in the Charter House, to be the Preacher there, in the stead of Mr. Foxley: And that it may be done with Expedition. They commanded us to put you in mind of the Ordinance concerning the Creation Money. They desire you to consider of the Proposition of the States Ambassadors, concerning Shipping; and to appoint a proportionable Number of a Committee, to join with the Committee formerly named. They have received a Petition from Sir Gregory Norton.
The Ordinance concerning Parks was read the First time; and ordered not to be read the Second time, but in a full House.
The Ordinance concerning Creation Money was read the First time.
Norton's, &c. Petition.
The Petition of Sir Gregory Norton, & al. was read; and ordered to be referred to the Consideration of the Committee for the King's Revenue, &c.
Losses at Lynne.
Whereas, by Order of the Third of this Instant July, it is referred to the Committee at Lynne, who were appointed to consider of the Losses of the Inhabitants in Lynne, by the late Defection of that Place, of their Reparation; to consider of the Losses of Mr. Percivall and Mr. Toll during that Defection; and what Reparation is fit to be made unto them now: Because there is none of that Committee but Colonel Walton, with Mr. Percivall and Mr. Toll; and that both Mr. Percivall and Mr. Toll are only concerned in the said Order; it is this Day
Ordered, That the said Mr. Percivall and Mr. Toll be left out of the said Order: And that Mr. Slaney and Mr. Maxey, Aldermen, be put in their steads, for this particular Business only.
Sutton's Hospital Preacher.
Resolved, &c. That this House doth concur with the Lords, in putting Mr. Peter Clerke in the Place of the Preacher in Sutton's Hospital, in the same Manner as Mr. Foxley had it, according to the Ordinance sent from the Lords.
Transactions with Holland.
Mr. Green, Dr. Eden, Mr. Selden, Mr. Prideaux, Mr. Vassall, Mr. Ashe, Sir Ben. Rudyerd, Sir Dud. North, Sir Christ. Yelverton, Sir Simonds D'Ewes, Mr. Rolle, Sir Hen. Vane, Sir Walth. Erle, Mr. Cage;
This Committee, or any Six of them, is appointed to meet with a Committee of a proportionable Number of the Lords, to consider of the Complaint of the States Ambassadors, touching the detaining of their Ships and Goods by the Parliament Ships, at several Times.
It is further referred to this Committee, to consider of the Complaints that shall be exhibited by any of this Nation, concerning any Injuries done unto them by any of the Subjects of the United Provinces: And they are to make Report of the Whole to the House.
The Lords Concurrence to be desired in this latter Addition.
It is further referred to the Members of this House that are of this Committee, with the Addition of the Two Mr. Bences; or any Four of them; to receive and consider of the Complaints of the Subjects of this Nation against the Subjects of the United Provinces: And are to join with the Committee of the Navy: And are to meet this Afternoon, at Two of Clock, in the Treasury Chamber.
Answer to Lords.
Answer returned by the same Messengers; That this House has considered their Lordships several Messages: And, as to the Ordinances concerning Parks, and Creation Money, they have taken them into Consideration; and will send Answer by Messengers of their own: As to the Petition of Sir Gregory Norton, & al. they have referred to the Committee of the Revenue, as is desired: Do agree in putting of Mr. Peter Clerke Preacher in Sutton's Hospital, as is desired: And, as to the Business concerning the Complaints exhibited by the States Ambassadors, touching the Surprisal of their Ships and Goods, they will send Answer by Messengers of their own.
Transactions with Holland.
Sir H. Mildmay is appointed to go to the Lords, to acquaint them, That this House does agree with the Lords, in appointing a Committee to join with a Committee of their House, to consider of the Complaints of the States Ambassadors, concerning the Detaining of their Ships by the Parliament's Ships; and to desire the Lords to agree with this House, in referring to this Committee Power to consider of the Complaints of the Subjects of this Nation against the Subjects of the United Provinces.
Ordered, That Mr. Rous do prepare and bring in an Ordinance concerning the settling of one Mr. Morgan's Estate, a Papist, upon the Heirs of Mr. Pym.
Message to Lords.
Sir H. Mildmay is appointed likewise to acquaint the Lords, of the Numbers of Soldiers that daily flock to this Town, and desert their Colours; and to desire them to expedite the Ordinance concerning Martial Law; and to desire them to join with this House, in the Exchange of Mr. Justice Mallett for Mr. Michell and his Son, and Captain Halling.
Ship Mary and Dorothy.
Ordered, That the Ship the Mary and Dorothy, of London, bound from Amsterdam to London, and taken by a Duynkirke Frigate; and, after some Twelve Hours Possession, chased, and retaken, by the Paramore, in the Parliament's Service; be restored, with her Goods, Lading, Tackle, and Equipage; the Master and Owners of the Ship Mary and Dorothy, and the respective Proprietors of the Goods and Lading, giving such Satisfaction to the Captain and Company of the Paramour, by way of Salvage, as the Committee for the Navy shall think fit and appoint.
Ships detained in Holland.
Ordered, That the humble Petition of Wm. Pennoyer and Rich. Hill, of London, Merchants, concerning Two Ships laden with Arms, provided for the Service of the State, and detained at Vlissing in Zealand, be referred to the Committee of this House, appointed to receive the Complaints of the Subjects of this Nation, for Injuries done unto them by the Subjects of the United Provinces: And they are to consider of, and make Report of, the Business on Friday Morning next.
Restoring Holles' Fine.
The humble Petition of Denzell Holles Esquire, a Member of this House, was this Day read.
Ordered, That it be referred to the Committee of the King's Revenue, forthwith to make Payment of a Thousand Marks to Mr. Holles, a Member of this House, for the like Sum unjustly imposed, and taken from him, by way of Fine in the King's Bench, and paid into the Exchequer, for discharging his Duty as a Member of this House, in the Parliament of 3tio Caroli.
A Letter from Sir Tho. Barrington, and others of the Committee in Essex, dated 17 July, was read; informing the House of Three hundred Pounds which hath been concealed, is lately discovered, and of Right ought to be sequestered: Whereupon
It is Ordered, That the Committee at Chelmesforde do examine the Information given concerning the Three hundred Pounds mentioned in the Letter: And if the same, upon Examination, prove to belong to the State, that then the same be immediately disposed, by the said Committee, for the Service of the County of Essex.
Officers Widows, &c.
Mr. Wheeler, Mr. Pelham, Sir Jo. Curson, Sir Tho. Dacres, Sir Martyn Lister, Sir John Wray, Sir Gilb. Gerard, Mr. Blakeston, Sir Antho. Irby, Sir Gilb. Pickeringe, Mr. Hollis, Captain Wingate, Mr. Knightlie, Mr. Tate, Mr. Cage, Mr. Erle, Mr. Ellis;
This Committee, or any Four of them, are to consider of the Petitions of Mrs. Meldrun, Mrs. Burrell, Mrs. Froome, Mrs. Lions, Mrs. Hertford, and Mrs. Juda Richardson, Wife of Captain Richardson, who have lost their Husbands in the Service of the Parliament, how some Means may be allowed them for their Relief for the present; and how the Arrears due unto any of their Husbands in their Life-time, be paid; and also to consider of the Petition of the Lady Lueretia Barclay, Wife of Colonel Barclay; and also of the Petition of Mrs. Hacker, Wife to Captain Hacker, now Prisoner in Belvoire Castle; for their Relief: And are to meet this Afternoon, at Two of the Clock, in the Duchy Chamber.
Ordered, That the Ten Pounds, this Day informed by Mr. Drake to be given by Samuel Taylor, a well affected Person to the State, be bestowed on the Lady Lueretia Barclay, to supply her present Occasions, whose Husband is employed in the Service of the Parliament.
Informations concerning Nicoll.
Mr. Lisle makes Report of the whole Business and Informations concerning Mr. Nicoll: The Letters and Orders passed in the Business; and the Testimony of the Witnesses produced; were all read,
The Question being put, whether there be any Cause of any further Proceeding against Mr. Nicoll, upon these Complaints and Informations;
It was resolved negatively.
Surrender of Yorke.
A Letter from the Three Generals of the Forces before Yorke, and the Committee of both Kingdoms, residing with the Armies, of the Eighteenth of July, concerning the Surrender of Yorke, and the Articles upon which it was surrendered, was this Day read; and delivered to Mr. Pierrepont to be delivered to one of the Lords, to be reported in the Lords House.
Advance of Money.
Ordered, That Mr. Ellis do take the Chair in that Committee where Mr. Millington had formerly the Chair, which is to meet with a Committee of Citizens, concerning the Advance of Monies.
Ordered, That the Grand Committee of the House do meet in the House every Tuesday and Thursday, at Eight of Clock in the Morning, to consider of the Rules presented from the Assembly of Divines, concerning Ordination.
Propositions for Peace.
Mr. Young, Mr. Browne, Mr. Hill, Mr. Solicitor, Mr. Maynard, Mr. Prideaux, Mr. Holles, Mr. Rous, Mr. Tate, Mr. Hevingham, Mr. Paie, and all the Chairmen of the several and respective Committees;
This Committee is appointed to meet and consider of such Ordinances as are fit to be turned into Laws, and of such Laws as have and are fit to be presented to his Majesty, with the Propositions for Peace; and to present a List of them to the House: And are to meet this Afternoon, at Two of Clock, in the Exchequer Chamber: And have Power to send for Parties, Witnesses, Papers, Records: And the Care of this Business is especially recommended unto Mr. Young.
Col. Wayte, &c.
Ordered, That the Committee formerly appointed for regulating my Lord General's Army, be added to the Committee appointed for Examination of the Businesses concerning Leicestershire and Rutlandshire, as to the Business concerning Colonel Wayte: And that the Petition offered this Day by Sir Martin Lister from some Gentlemen of the County of Rutland, be referred to the same Committee.
Detention of Danish Ship.
The Petition of the Company of Merchants Adventurers, concerning the Danish Ship at Portesmouth; and the humble Petition of the Governor, Assistants, and Fellowship, of Eastland Merchants, reported by Mr. Browne from the Committee of both Kingdoms; were this Day read; and ordered to be referred to the Consideration of the Committee of the Navy; to hear both Companies, and their Allegations; and to report all to the House; and to give Order, that the said Danish Ship be stayed in the mean time; and to take care of the said Ship and Goods, that none of the said Goods be embezzled: They are likewise to consider what Orders have been made in this House, concerning the Stay of any Danish Ships.
House to meet.
Resolved, &c. That the House do meet this Afternoon, at Four of Clock.
Ordered, That the Captains, Officers, and Soldiers, at the several Courts of Guard, be required to make Stay of all Commanders and Soldiers, their Horses and Arms, that do come from their Colours; and to bring them, their Horses and Arms, to the Committee of the Militia, to be examined and secured, as there shall be Cause.
And it is further Ordered, That the Committee for the Militia do make Search for all Commanders and Soldiers that are already come from their Colours: And to seize on their Persons, Horses, and Arms.
Portsmouth Garison, &c.
Whereas the Charge of the Garison and Forts at Portsmouth are, by Occasions of the Dangers of the Times, much increased: It is Ordained, by the Lords and Commons, in Parliament, That Five hundred Pounds per Mensem shall be paid out of the Collection of the Excise, within the County of Southampton, (except the Isle of Wight, and Town and County of the Town of Southampton) unto the Treasurer of the said Garison and Forts, towards the Maintenance of the Officers and Soldiers there for the Term of Six Months, if the said extraordinary Guards of the said Garison shall be thought fit so long to continue; and if the Collections as aforesaid, within that County, shall amount unto that Sum: And the Commissioners of Excise are ordered to make Payment of the same accordingly: And the Receipt of the said Treasurer, or his Assigns, shall be their sufficient Discharge, Provided that this Ordinance shall not extend to any Excise appropriate to the Use of the Navy.
Die Mercurii, Julii 24, 1644; Post Meridiem.
Transactions with Holland.
ORDERED, That the Committee for Examinations do, on Friday next, make Report of the Business concerning the printing the Pamphlet touching the Reasons that should induce this Nation to relieve Graveling.
Divers Letters; Two from Mr. Strickland, of July 14, Sti' loci; one to the Committee of both Kingdoms, concerning the foresaid Pamphlet, &c.; another to a private Person, which, in Effect, was but a Duplicate of the other; Two other from Mr. Strickland, from the Hagh, of Julii 18, concerning the States Resolutions touching free Trade in all the Ports of England; and touching the Business of Bainham, Webster, &c.; and a Letter from the Committee in Sunderland, of Julii 14, 1644, touching a Man of War of Holland, taken by Captain Haddock, bound for Scarborough, and laden with Seventy Barrels of Powder, and other Lading; and the Copy of a Letter, inclosed, from Mr. Theoph. Baynham to the Earl of New-castle, touching the Settling of a free Trade to those Parts, and the Employing, by the Merchants in those Parts, of Persons in Holland ill-affected to the King's Service; and an Extract of a Letter, sent out of Holland, to the Purpose of the former Letters; were all this Day read.
Ordered, That it be referred to the Committee of both Kingdoms, to send an Answer to Mr. Strickland, to the Letters from Hagh, of July 14/4 concerning the Business of Graveling: And Mr. Whittacre is to inform the Committee of both Kingdoms, of the Proceedings of this House, and of the Committee of Informations, touching that Business; to the end the Committee of both Kingdoms may fully inform Mr. Strickland of the whole Proceedings of the Parliament, and the Committee of both Kingdoms, therein: They are likewise to prepare a Narrative to be sent to the States General, the States Provincial, and such other Towns as the Committee shall think fit: And that they bring these Letters and Narrative in to the House on Friday Morning next. They are likewise to consider of Mr. Strickland's Letter, of Julii 18, 1644, and of the Extract of a Letter from Holland, presented by Mr. Ashe, touching the States Resolutions concerning free Trade into all the Ports of this Kingdom.
Ordered, That those Passages in Mr. Strickland's Letters concerning the Disposal of the Contributions in Holland to the distressed Protestants in Ireland, be referred to the Consideration of the Committee for the Affairs of Ireland, that usually sits at Grocers Hall.
Ordered, That the Letter from the Committee in Sunderland, of Julii 14, 1644, concerning a States Man of War with Seventy Barrels of Powder, &c. taken by Captain Haddock; and the Copy of a Letter, inclosed, from Mr. Theoph. Baynham Merchant, to the Earl of Newcastle, concerning the Trade of those Parts; be referred to the Consideration of the Committee of Lords and Commons, appointed to consider of the Complaints of the States Ambassadors, touching the Detention of some of their Ships by some of the Parliament's Ships, delivered to Mr. Green:
The inclosed Letter from Mr. Baynham to the Earl of Newcastle, is ordered to be printed.
Affairs of Western Counties, &c.
A Letter from his Excellency, dated at Tiverton, July 18, to the Committee of both Kingdoms, was read; informing the House of a Copy of a Message from his Majesty to both Houses of Parliament, assembled at Westminster, which was sent unto him by the Earl of Brainforde; and his Excellency's Answer; were read: And also a Letter from his Excellency, to the same Purpose, to the Committees for the Western Counties: Also a Letter from Sir Wm. Bruerton and the Committee at Manchester, to the House of Commons, of the Twentieth of July, was also read.
Ordered, That the Consideration of the West be referred back to the Care of the Committee of both Kingdoms.
Ordered, That the Consideration of sending Arms into the West be referred to the special Care of the Committee for the West.
Legacies for repairing Paul's.
Ordered, That all such Legacies as are given to the Repair of Paul's, and not disposed of, shall be borrowed, to be employed for the Service of Lancashire, and Reducing of North Wales, equally to be divided for those Two Uses; and that Publick Faith shall be given for Repayment thereof: And it is referred to the Members of this House, that serve for the Northern Counties, to call before them Parties, and Witnesses: And to send for Papers, Writings, and Records, conducing to this Business.
Resolved, &c. That the Committee at Goldsmiths Hall shall have Power to contract with Persons for the Sale of Lands and Houses of Delinquents, according to the former Order of the Tenth of this Instant July, at Eight Years Purchase for Lands, at least, and Six Years Purchase for Houses, at least, at the Rates they were let at before these Wars began.
Ordered, That it be referred to the Committee for the several Associations, to consider of Four Persons, in their several Counties, to set a true Value, upon Oath, of such Lands and Houses belonging to Delinquents, as shall be thought fit to be sold: And it is referred to the Knights and Burgesses that serve for London, to consider of Twenty fit Persons, to be employed as aforesaid, for Lands and Houses within the Line of Communication.
Ordered, That the Committee for the Hertfordshire Business do meet To-morrow, at One a Clock, in the Court of Wards.
Leave of Absence.
Ordered, That Mr. Solicitor and Sir John Trevor shall have the Leave of this House to go into the Country, about their Occasions, for Ten Days.