House of Commons Journal Volume 3: 29 July 1644

Pages 573-574

Journal of the House of Commons: Volume 3, 1643-1644. Originally published by His Majesty's Stationery Office, London, 1802.

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Die Lunæ, Julii 29, 1644.


Lord Arundell's Children.

ORDERED, That the Committee for Prisoners do examine and ascertain the Charge of keeping and breeding the Lord Arundell of Wardour's Children, since they were taken Prisoners: And that the same Charge be paid either by the Lord Arundell of Wardour, or out of his Estate, before the Children have Mr. Speaker's Warrant to go to Pendennis Castle.

Prisoners Estates.

Ordered, That the Committee at Goldsmiths Hall do consider of all Prisoners whose Estates are sequestered; and require a List of them from the several Persons that have the Custody of them; and consider of raising of Monies, by compounding with them, for the Scotts Army, and the Lord Fairefaxe's Army; and present their Opinions, upon the whole Matter, to the House.

Warrant to Lady Campden.

Ordered, That the Lady Hester Viscountess Campden shall have Mr. Speaker's Warrant to come to Town, from Brook in the County of Rutland.

Scotch Commissioners.

Ordered, That Sir H, Vane jun. do represent unto the Committee of both Kingdoms, the Desire of this House, that the Commissioners from Scotland may be quickened in their coming hither, considering the Occasions of this Kingdom.

Propositions for Peace.

Resolved, &c. That this House do sit on Thursday next, to take into Consideration the Propositions concerning Peace.

Scotch Army.

Ordered, That it be referred to the Committee at Goldsmiths Hall, to make Provision of Cloaths and Shoes for the Scotts Army, to be deducted out of the Monies due to that Army: And that they consider of some Means of raising Monies, or Credit, for the Discharge of these Particulars.

Money for Army Service.

Whereas the County of Kent did set forth Two Companies of Dragoons, upon the Desire of the Committee of both Kingdoms, to convoy to Portesmouth the last Monies sent to my Lord General's Army; the Charge whereof, being audited, amounteth to the Sum of One hundred Fifty and Four Pounds; it is this Day Ordered, That the said Sum of One hundred Fifty and Four Pounds be forthwith paid to Augustine Skinner Esquire, a Member of this House, out of the Monies arising upon the Receipts of Excise, and assigned to my Lord General's Army.

The Lords Concurrence to be desired herein.

Army in Ireland.

Sir H. Vane, according to the Order of Saturday last, proceeded in his Report from the Committee of both Kingdoms: And, from that Committee, reported the humble Desire and Propositions of the distressed British Regiments in Ulster, represented by the Commissioners from the British Army in Ireland unto that Committee, Julii 15, 1644.

He then reported from the Committee, certain Queries, which the Commissioners from Ireland are desired to make Answer unto; and the humble Answer of the Commissioners to those Queries; and the Result of the Committee of both Kingdoms, upon the whole Matter, Viz. That, in regard the Weight of most of the Propositions lie upon the Provisions of Money, which is only in the Power of the House to do; the Committee cannot give any Opinion concerning those Propositions, till the House shall please to determine what they think fit to do concerning the Money: And, withal, that the Houses have already passed some Votes concerning the Managing of the War there, which are transferred to the Kingdom of Scotland: Which the Committee desires to put the House in mind of, that nothing be done that may interfere with those Votes; and to recommend to the House, that the Forces there may have such Encouragement given them, as may enable them to continue and prosecute that Service.

Martial Law.

A Message from the Lords, by Serjeant Finche and Dr. Aylett;

The Lords have returned the Ordinance they received from this House, concerning Martial Law; which they have returned, with some Amendments; and do agree unto it with those Amendments; and desire the Concurrence of this House in these Amendments.

Army in Ireland.

Mr. Blakeston, Mr. Recorder, Sir Jo. Clotworthy, Mr. Reynolds, Mr. Bond, Mr. Holles, Mr. Rigby, Mr. Cage, Mr. Prideauxe, Sir Tho. Widdrington, Mr. Strode, Mr. Hoyle, Mr. Thelwall, Mr. Holland, Mr. Wheeler, Mr. Mainard, Sir Gilb. Pickeringe, Sir Ben. Rudyard, Sir Jo. Curson, Mr. Noble, Sir Hen. Vane, Mr. Lisle, Sir Arth. Haselrigg, Lord Wainmen, Mr. Hill, Mr. Vassall, Mr. Henningham, Sir Edward Aiscough, and all the Members of this House that are Adventurers in Ireland, are to consider of the Propositions this Day presented to the House, from the distressed Brittish Regiments in Ulster; and to bring them as low as possibly they can; and present their Opinions to the House. And this Committee is further to take notice of the Votes formerly passed in this House, concerning the carrying on of the War, that nothing may interfere with those Votes: And are to consider what Commanders and Officers are fit to be removed; and of Raising of Monies for carrying on of the War; and of lessening the Charge: And are to meet this Afternoon, at Two of the Clock, in the Exchequer Chamber: And have Power to send for Parties, Witnesses, Papers, Records, &c.

Martial Law.

The Amendments to the Ordinance for Martial Law were all read; and all assented unto, except the Amendment in the Fourteenth Line of the last Page.

The Two Provisoes, desired by the Lords to be added, were likewise read; and the First agreed unto; and the Second disapproved, and dissented from: And

It is Ordered, That a Conference be desired with the Lords, upon these Amendments.

Mr. Ellis, Sir Hen. Vane jun. and Sir Arth. Heselrig, are appointed to manage this Conference, and to prepare Reasons for this House's adhering to the Ordinance as it went from hence; and for their dissenting from the Second Proviso.

Dutch Ships, &c.

A Message from the Lords, by Serjeant Whittfeild and Sir Edw. Leeche;

The Lords have this Morning received a Letter from the States Ambassadors, concerning the Stay of the Sale of some Ships and Goods mentioned in their Memorandum: The Lords do hold it fit, that there should be a Stay made of the Sale of them; the rather, in regard that both Houses have appointed a Committee to meet upon that Business; which hath not as yet met.

Ordered, That the Commissioners for Sale of Prize Goods do forbear to make Sale of the Ship Tyger, and the Goods, until Friday next: And that the Lords be desired, That the Committee of Lords and Commons appointed to consider of the Complaints of the States Ambassadors, concerning the Detaining of some of their Ships, may meet this Afternoon.

Message to Lords.

Mr. Green is appointed to go up with this Message; and to carry up the Order for the Winter Guard; the Ordinance for the better Levying the Excise upon Flesh; the List of the Winter Guard; the Order for Five hundred Pounds per Mensem to the Garison of Portesmouth, out of the Excise of Southampton, &c.; the Order concerning Captain Swanleye's and Captain Smythe's Repair to Milford Haven.

Answer to Lords.

Answer returned by the First Messengers; That this House has considered their Lordships Message; and will send Answer by Messengers of their own.

Answer returned by the Second Messengers; That this House has considered their Lordships Message; and have ordered, That there be Stay made of the Sale of the Ship Tyger, and the Goods, until Friday next.

Delinquents Estates.

An Ordinance to enable certain Persons, therein named, to make Contracts for the Sale of Delinquents Houses and Lands, for the Raising of Monies for One Month's Pay to the Scotts Army, and to the Lord Fairefaxe his Army, was this Day read the First and Second time; and, upon the Question, committed unto the Committee of the whole House: And are to meet upon it on Thursday next, at Two post Meridiem.

Prisoners, &c.

Ordered, That it be referred to the Committee for Prisoners, to take care of the Twelve Prisoners, Sir Robt. Jenkinson, Mr. Charles Howard, Mr. Wm. Howard, Mr. Henry Howard, Mr. Tho. Cole, Mr. Clem. Petre, Mr. Fettiplace, Major Brace, Captain Lambert, Captain Foster, Lieutenant Franks, Ensign Griffin, sent out of Oxfordshire by Sir Wm. Waller, to good and safe Custody; and to consider of Houses and Places fit to make Prisons; and to make Prisons of such Places as they shall think fit; and to consider of the Offences and Illbehaviour of the Keepers; and to place, and displace, such as they shall see Cause.

Prisoner discharged.

Resolved, &c. That Captain John Banastree, now under Restraint, shall be forthwith discharged from any further Restraint.

Maimed Soldiers, &c.

Ordered, That One Half of such Monies as shall be collected in the Churches of Saint Margarett's, Westminster, and Saint Martin's in the Fields, on Wednesday next, being the Day of publick Humiliation, shall be employed for the Relief of the poor maimed Soldiers; and the other Half for the Relief of the Poor of the said Parishes respectively.