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House of Commons Journal Volume 3: 31 August 1644

Pages 613-615

Journal of the House of Commons: Volume 3, 1643-1644. Originally published by His Majesty's Stationery Office, London, 1802.

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Die Sabbati, Augusti ultimo, 1644.

PRAYERS.

Reducing Worcester.

AN Ordinance for raising and maintaining of Horse and Foot for reducing and continuing the County and City of Worcester into and under the Obedience and Service of the King and Parliament, was this Day read the Third time; and, upon the Question, passed; and ordered to be sent unto the Lords for their Concurrence.

Prince Elector.

Sir Hen. Vane senior et junior, Mr. Recorder, Mr. Solicitor, Mr. Pierrepont, Sir Benj. Rudyer, Sir Wm. Lewes, Mr. Selden;

This Committee is to consider of something, in Writing, that is fit to be said to the Prince Elector by a Committee of both Houses; and likewise what is fit to be done upon his Arrival: And they are presently to withdraw upon it.

Ordnance Stores.

Ordered, That the Lieutenant of the Ordnance do, out of the publick Stores, furnish to the Earl of Manchester One hundred Barrels of Powder in lieu of One hundred Barrels of Powder lent by the Earl of Manchester to the Scotts Army at the Siege of Yorke; and that the said One hundred Barrels of Powder be delivered to the Care of Macabcus Holles, whom the Earl of Manchester has sent up as his Agent to this Purpose.

Ordered, That the Lieutenant of the Ordnance do forthwith furnish, for Sir Wm. Waller's March, Thirty Barrels of Powder, One Ton and a half of Musquet-shot, One half Ton of Pistol-shot, One half Ton of Carabine-shot, and Two Ton of Match.

Copley's Accounts.

Upon Perusal of the humble Certificate of the Committee for taking the Accounts of the whole Kingdom who have taken the Accounts of Commissary Lionell Copley, for all his Receipts and Payments, as he is a Member of the Lord General his Committee for the Army; and do certify, that there rests Debet upon the Foot of the said Account, the Sum of Seven hundred Ninety-four Pounds One Shilling and Six-pence; It is

Ordered, That Commissary Lionell Copley do, by this Day Sevennight at furthest, pay into the Chamber of London the said Sum of Seven hundred Ninety-four Pounds One Shilling and Six-pence, according to the Ordinance of Julii 11, 1644.

Anabaptists, &c.

The humble Petition subscribed by divers Ministers of the County of Herts, was this Day read.

Ordered, That it be referred to the Committee of plundered Ministers, to proceed with all such as shall publish the Opinions of Anabaptism or Antinomianism, in like manner as they had formerly Power to proceed with Mr. Picott, Mr. Simson, and others mentioned in the said former Order.

Lords to sit.

Sir Wm. Lewes is appointed to go to the Lords, to desire them to sit awhile; in regard, that this House shall have Occasion to come unto them upon some urgent Occasions.

Willis' Exchange.

Ordered, That Sir Philip Stapilton do prepare a Letter to be sent to my Lord General, concerning the Exchange desired, of Sir Rich. Willis and others; and to express, that this House, for some urgent Reasons, cannot assent to the Exchange of Sir Rich. Willis.

Pembroke Garisons, &c.

Ordered, That whatsoever Monies shall arise from any Report from the Committee of Examinations, the first Nine hundred Ninety-one Pounds thereof shall be employed for making of Provision of Arms and Ammunition for the Use of the Garisons in the County of Pembroke, except such Monies as shall arise upon any Discovery already made to that Committee by Colonel Ven.

Whettey's Petition.

Ordered, That the humble Petition of Captain Peter Whettey be referred to the Consideration of the Committee for the Navy.

Prince Elector.

Mr. Pierrepont reports from the Committee appointed to consider what is fit to be said by a Committee of both Houses to the Prince Elector, and what is fit to be done upon his Arrival, That which they think fit to be said and done upon his Arrival: The which was read; and this Clause being put to the Question; viz. Whe . . . . . . . . and to let him know, that, upon serious Considerations, they do conceive, the shorter Stay his Electoral Highness shall make here, it will be of most Advantage to his own and the publick Interests.

The House was divided:

The Yeas went forth.

Lord Herbert, Sir Philip Stapilton, Tellers for the Noe, 34.
Mr. Pierrepont, Sir Arth. Hesilrig, Tellers for the Yea, 43.

So that it passed with the Affirmative.

And then the Whole was put to the Question: And

It was Resolved, upon the Question, That this House doth concur with the Committee in the whole Report.

Ordered, That the Lords Concurrence be desired in the Report, forasmuch as concerns what is to be said to the Prince Elector.

Resolved, &c. That the Lords be desired to appoint a Committee to join with a Committee of this House, to visit the Prince Elector; and to speak this unto him.

That which is resolved by this House to be spoke to the Prince Elector, follows in hoc verba; viz.

The Parliament did not know of his Electoral Highness' Arrival, or of any Intention of his coming into this Kingdom, until Twelve of Clock on Thursday last.

That, considering the Conjuncture of Affairs both at home and abroad, the Parliament is much surprised, by not being informed, and consulted with, before his coming over.

The Parliament hath always been most tender of his Electoral Highness' Affair, is so, and will be; and have now sent a Committee of their own to visit him, and to give him Assurance thereof; which they will ever express in their Actions, and faithful Advices: And do let him know, that, upon serious Considerations, they do conceive, the shorter Stay his Electoral Highness shall make here, it will be of most Advantage to his own, and to the publick Interests.

The Lords Concurrence to be desired herein.

Mr. Pierrepont carried up this Report, and the Votes thereupon.

Resolved, &c. That this House doth concur with the Committee in Opinion, that, from the last of August, the Committee of Revenue do defray the Charges of the Entertainment of the Prince Elector for Fourteen Days: And that it be referred to the Committee, to see it done accordingly, in such manner as they shall think fit.

Mr. Pierrepont brings Answer; That he has delivered his Message; and that the Lords will send Answer by Messengers of their own.

Message from Lords.

A Message from the Lords, by Sir Edw. Leech and Doctor Heath;

The Lords do intend to sit this Afternoon, at Four of Clock; and desire this House to do the like, if it may stand with the Conveniency of this House: And they do agree to the Ordinance for Instructions to the Commissioners of Excise.-

Arrears of Assessments.

Mr. Wheeler reports the State of the Arrears of the last Four Months weekly Assessments for my Lord General's Army, in hoc verba; viz.

Arrears.

£. s. d. £. s. d.
9,691. 15. 6. The Charge upon London and the Liberties, for Four Months Assessment for his Excellency's Armies 22,000 0 0
1,024. 11. 10. The Hamlets of the Tower for the Four Months, is 1,937 3 8
321. 14. 7. The City of Westminster, for Four Months, is 2,421 14 7
703. 11. 0. The Borough of Southwark, for the Four Months, is 1,453 0 5
27,811 18 8
There hath been paid in to Sir Gilbert Gerard, for London, and the Liber ties, the Sum of £. s. d.
12,308 4 6
For the Hamlets of the Tower, the Sum of 912 11 10
For the City of Westminster, the Sum of 2,100 0 0
For the Borough of Southwark, the Sum of 703 11 0
16,024 7 4
The Charge upon the County of Middlesex, is 1,097 11 0
There hath been paid by the County of Middlesex 0 0 0

House to meet.

Ordered, That the House do meet this Afternoon, at Four of Clock.-

Answer to Lords.

Answer returned by the same Messengers; That this House has considered their Lordships Message; and do agree to sit this Afternoon, at Four of Clock, as is desired.

Die Sabbati, Augusti ultimo; post Meridiem.

Victualling the Navy.

ORDERED, That the Committee of the Navy do give Order for the providing and sending away of Four Months Victuals, for a Thousand Men, for the Ships of the Winter Guard; and that they send Notice thereof to my Lord Admiral, by an Express, in the mean time, that the Ships upon the Western Coast may not come in: And that they send these Victuals to my Lord Admiral.

Leicestershire.

Ordered, That on Monday Morning the Business concerning Leicestershire be resumed.

Prince Elector.

A Message from the Lords, by Sir Edw. Leech and Doctor Heath;

The Lords have returned a Message they received from this House, to be delivered to the Prince Elector Palatine; to which they agree, with some Amendments they have sent down: They have appointed a Committee of Four of their House to visit the Prince Elector with this Message; and desire this House to name a Committee, of a proportionable Number, to meet at the Rising of the House.

The Words to be added were these; viz. "and doth conceive, that the Residence of his Electoral Highness, at this time in Foreign Parts, will be of more Advantage to his own and to the publick Interest:" These to be added in the same Clause, after the Words "his coming over."

After the Word "advise," all the Words following to be left out.

Ordered, That the House doth agree to the Amendments sent down by the Lords.

Mr. Pierrepont, Sir Wm. Strickland, Lord Grey, Sir H. Vane, Sir Jo. Clottworthy, Mr. Knightly, Mr. Solicitor, Sir Ben. Rudyerd;

This Committee is appointed to meet with a Committee of a proportionable Number of the Lords, at the Rising of the House, to deliver the Message agreed upon by both Houses, to the Prince Elector.

Assessment for Ireland.

Ordered, That the Committee appointed for the Ordinance for raising of Monies by way of Assessment for Ireland, they, or any Four of them, shall have Power to meet.

Prince Elector.

Answer returned by the same Messengers; That this House has considered their Lordships Message; and do agree to the Amendments sent down to the Message to be delivered to the Prince Elector; and have appointed a Committee to meet with a Committee of a proportionable Number of the Lords, as is desired, to visit the Prince Elector with the Message.