House of Commons Journal Volume 3: 14 November 1644

Journal of the House of Commons: Volume 3, 1643-1644. Originally published by His Majesty's Stationery Office, London, 1802.

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'House of Commons Journal Volume 3: 14 November 1644', in Journal of the House of Commons: Volume 3, 1643-1644, (London, 1802) pp. 695-697. British History Online https://www.british-history.ac.uk/commons-jrnl/vol3/pp695-697 [accessed 26 April 2024]

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Die Jovis, Novembris 14, 1644.

PRAYERS.

Romish Priest.

RESOLVED, &c. That James the Priest, taken by Humfrey Holden, and now in his Custody, be forthwith committed Prisoner to the Tower.

Ordered, That the Committee of the Revenue do forthwith pay unto Humfrey Holden, who took James a Romish Priest, Five Pounds: And that they examine the Charge he has been at upon the said Priest, since he was in his Custody: And that the said Committee do defray the same.

London Hospitals.

An Ordinance for freeing the Rents of the Hospitals in London from Taxes and Assessments, &c. was this Day read the Second time; and, upon the Question, passed; and ordered to be sent unto the Lords for their Concurrence.

Maimed Soldiers.

Ordered, That the Committee for maimed Soldiers do meet To-morrow at Two post Meridiem, in the Court of Wards, to consider of some good and fitting Expedients for the Relief of the maimed Soldiers; and for sending away the King's maimed Soldiers into the King's Quarters: And that they shall have Power to make some Allowance to the Treasurers for maimed Soldiers, to encourage them in their great Pains and Labours.

Doyly's Arrears.

Resolved, &c. That an Hundred Pounds be paid, upon Account, to the Treasurer at Wars, out of the Monies that come in at Haberdashers Hall, next after the Assignments now assigned to issue thence, to be by him paid, upon Account, to Captain Lieutenant Doyly, sorely wounded in the Parliament's Service, towards the Satisfaction of his Arrears.

Hall's Arrears.

Resolved, &c. That Fifty Pounds be paid, upon Account, to the Treasurer at Wars, out of the Monies that come in at Haberdashers Hall, next after the Monies now assigned to issue thence, to be by him paid, upon Account, to Cornet Hall, towards the Satisfaction of his Arrears; who hath likewise been sore wounded in the Service of the State.

The Lords Concurrence to be desired herein.

Sanderson's Arrears.

Ordered, That an Hundred Pounds be paid, upon Account, to the Treasurer at Wars, to be by him paid, upon Account, to Lieutenant Colonel Sanderson, towards the Satisfaction of his Arrears: And it is referred to Mr. Blakiston, to take care of the Furnishing and Providing this Hundred Pounds: Who is to be repaid and allowed the same again, if he advance the same.

Lord Maynard's Assessment, &c.

Ordered, That the Lords be desired to assess the Lord Maynard for his Twentieth Part.

Ordered, That an Hundred Pounds be paid, upon Account, out of the Assessment of the Twentieth Part set upon the Lord Maynard, to the Treasurer at Wars; to be by him paid, upon Account, to Lieutenant Colonel Grymes, towards the Discharge of his Arrears.

Lord Newburgh's Assessment.

Ordered, That the Lords be again desired to assess the Lord Newburgh his Twentieth Part, to be employed to the Relief of such as are wounded in the Parliament's Service.

Master of St. Crosse Hospital.

An Ordinance for making John Lisle Esquire, a Member of this House, Master of St. Crosse Hospital, near Winton, and for moving of Wm. Lewes, Doctor in Divinity, from the said Place, was this Day read the First time; and, upon Question, passed; and ordered to be sent unto the Lords for their Concurrence.

offices held by Members.

Sir Wm. Lewes, Mr. Holles, Mr. Hodges, Sir Jo. Curson, Sir Jo. Clottworthy, Mr. Strode, Mr. Reynolds, Mr. Whitelock, Sir Christ. Wray, Sir Wm. Litton, Sir Martin Lister, Sir Wm. Strickland, Mr. Bond, Mr. Blakiston, Mr. Hodges, Sir Jo. Evelyn, Sir Walth. Erle, Sir Samuel Rolle, Mr. Pury, Sir Jo. Potts, Sir Pet. Wentworth, Sir Edw. Hungerford, Sir Phil. Stapilton, Mr. Wheler, Colonel Morley, Sir Jo. Corbett, Mr. Buller, Mr. Montague, Mr. Cage, Mr. Grimston, Sir Tho. Cheeke, Sir Edm. Fowell, Mr. Stephens, Sir Mart. Lumley, Mr. Goodwyn, Mr. Ashe;

This Committee is to inquire into the Value and Nature of all the Offices and Places, and other Advantages that have been bestowed by the Parliament, or by virtue or colour of any Authority of Parliament; what is received by the Persons on whom such Offices, Places, or other Advantages, are bestowed; and to consider, what Allowance is to be made out of them, to the Persons that execute them; and what to the Use of the Publick: And are to begin first with the Offices, Places, or other Advantages, bestowed upon the Members of either House: And are to meet this Afternoon, at Two of Clock, in the Star Chamber: And have Power to send for Parties, Witnesses, Papers, Records: Mr. Reynolds is appointed especially to take care of this Business: And the Members of this House that are any way concerned in this Order, are appointed to make known unto this Committee, the Profits, Nature, and Quality, of such Places, Offices, or other Advantages, as have been conferred upon them by the Parliament, or by virtue or colour of any Authority of Parliament.

Message to Lords.

Sir Peter Wentworth carried up to the Lords the Ordinance for Five thousand Pounds for my Lord General's Foot; the Ordinance for opening the Trade to Newcastle; the Orders for an Hundred Pounds to Captain Doyly; and Fifty Pounds to Cornet Hall; out of Haberdashers Hall; and to desire, that the Lord Maynard, and the Lord Newburgh, might be assessed their Twentieth Parts.

Kent Petition, &c.

The House being informed, That divers Gentlemen of the County of Kent were at the Door, desirous to prefer a Petition;

They were called in: And Sir Anth. Weldon, in the Name of the rest, did present a Petition from the County; and divers Propositions for the Advantage of that County; and a Remonstrance made by divers Well-affected of that County, to the Committee of that County.

The which were all read: And

It is Ordered, That the House be resolved into a Committee on Saturday Morning next, at Nine of Clock, to take the same into Consideration.

The Gentlemen were again called in: And Mr. Speaker, by the Command of the House, acquainted them, That the Matters represented by them, are Matters of very great Concernment; and, upon Debate of the Weight thereof, they have referred the Consideration of them to a Committee of the whole House; to meet on Saturday next: And that they may, if they please, leave some few to follow their Business here; and the rest, at their own Pleasures, intend the Business of the County.

He is further commanded to take Notice unto them, of the Resentment and great Sense, the House has had Reason always to conceive, of the good Affections of that County to the true Protestant Religion, and the Publick Liberty; and how far they have laid out themselves in all manner of real Expressions to both: And is commanded to return the Thanks of this House for all; and to assure them, that they shall not fail of any Encouragement this House can afford them.

Sir Anth. Weldon further desired, That there might be Consideration had of some of their Countrymen, that were taken Prisoners at Saltashe, or thereabouts, and lie in very cruel Durance.

Mr. Knightley, Sir Tho. Walsingham, and Mr. Nicoll, are appointed to go forth to the Kentish Gentlemen, and to satisfy them, that all Care has been and is taken for their Release.

Dennington Castle.

Sir Arth. Hesilrig related unto the House, the Passages of the whole Business concerning the Relieving of Denington Castle, by the King's Forces.

Mr. Solicitor was ready, from the Committee of both Kingdoms, to give an Account to the House of relieving Dennington Castle, according to an Order Yesterday made: But, the House having formerly received a Relation made by Sir Arth. Hesilrig of that Business, Mr. Solicitor proceeded not to his Report.

Answer from Lords.

Sir Peter Wentworth brings Answer, That the Lords do agree to the Order for Captain Doyly; and Cornet Hall; to the Ordinance for opening the Trade to Newcastle; the Ordinance for Five thousand Pounds to my Lord General's Foot.

Money for the Scotts.

Ordered, That the Ordinance for Sixty-six thousand Six hundred and Sixty-six Pounds, &c. for the Scotts, be read To-morrow the first Business.

Jones' Petition.

Ordered, That the humble Petition of Rich. Jones be referred to the Committee of Examinations; to examine and inquire into the State of his Debt: and to report to the House with all convenient Speed.

Observation of Lord's Day, &c.

An Ordinance prohibiting the Walking upon the Exchange, and in the Fields, upon the Lord's Day, and Fast Days, was this Day read the First and Second time; and, upon Question, committed unto the Committee of plundered Ministers; to meet upon it this Afternoon; and to report it between this and the next Lord's Day, that it may be published before that Day.

Message from Lords.

A Message from the Lords, by Sir Robert Riche and Mr. Page;

The Lords have commanded us to bring you a Message they have received from this House, concerning the Twentieth Part of Lord Newburgh; Which they desire this House to consider.

They have received a Petition from divers Officers and Commanders out of Employment: Which they desire this House to take into their Consideration.

The Message sent down was in hæc verba; viz.

" Die Veneris, 18 Octobris, 1644."

Lord Newburgh.

" A Message was brought from the House of Commons, amongst other things, by Mr. Denys Bond, and others.

" That the House of Commons agrees in Exempting the Lord Newburgh from being assessed for his Twentieth, and Fifth Part, of his Estate."

Committee to the King.

A Message from the Lords, by Dr. Aylett and Dr. Heath;

That the Lords have commanded us to let you know, That they have nominated and appointed Basill Earl of Denbighe, and Wm. Lord Maynard, to go with the Committee of this House, and the Scoche Commissioners, with the Propositions for a safe and well-grounded Peace, according as it is expressed in this Paper.

They have likewise sent down the Copy of a Letter of both Houses, sent to the Earl of Denbighe: And the Lords desire, That the Thousand Pounds, and Six hundred Pair of Pistols (according to this Letter) be forthwith paid and delivered to such Officers of the Earl of Denbighe's Regiment of Horse, as his Lordship shall appoint; for the Maintenance of his Lordship's said Regiment, during his Lordship's Absence in this Employment of the Parliament, concerning the Propositions for Peace.

Master of St. Crosse's Hospital.

Whereas Wm. Lewes Doctor in Divinity, and Master of the House or Hospital of St. Crosse, near Winton, hath neglected the Government of the said House; and adhered to those that have levied War against the Parliament, and are Enemies to the King and Kingdom; whereby he hath forfeited his Right to the said Mastership: For the better Supply of that Place, and for the good Government thereof, by a Person of Quality, Integrity, and Piety, the Lords and Commons, in Parliament, do Order and Ordain, That the said Rector Lewes from henceforth shall be removed, and wholly discharged, from being any longer Master of the House or Hospital of St. Crosse's, near Winton: And that he shall not from henceforth have, receive, or take, any Rents, Issues or Profits thereunto belonging: And they do hereby wholly remove and discharge him thereof, to all Intents and Purposes. And the said Lords and Commons do, by these Presents, constitute and ordain John Lisle, of Moyles Court, within the County of Southampton, Esquire, Master of the said House or Hospital of St. Crosse's, near Winton: And do further Ordain, Order, and Declare, That the said John Lisle shall have and enjoy the Places of Master of the said House or Hospital of St. Crosse's aforesaid, with all Rents, Issues, Profits, Privileges, Powers, and Benefits, thereunto belonging, or therewith used or enjoyed: And the Commissioners for the Great Seal of England are hereby authorized and required, by Letters Patents under the Great Seal of England, to pass the said Place of Master of the House or Hospital of St. Crosse's, near Winton, unto the said John Lisle, according to the Intent herein expressed: And, for their so doing, this shall be their Warrant: And it is hereby Declared, That the said John Lisle shall, in the mean time, have and enjoy the said Place, with the Profits thereof, as aforesaid.

Advance from Excise.

Whereas John Towse Esquire, Alderman of the City of London, and the rest of the Commissioners of Excise and New Impost, have advanced and lent, towards Payment of the Lord General the Earl of Essex his Army, the Sum of Five thousand Pounds: Be it Ordained, by the Lords and Commons, in Parliament assembled, That the said Commissioners of Excise do pay the same unto Sir Gilbert Gerard Baronet, Treasurer at Wars; and shall and may satisfy and reimburse themselves the said Five thousand Pounds, together with Interest for the same, after the Rate of Eight Pounds per Cent. for so long time as the same, or any Part thereof, shall be forborne, out of such Intervals of Receipts as shall occur when other Payments out of the Office of Excise shall not happen to fall due; or, for want of such Intervals, then as the same shall happen in Course; and shall not, by any other Order or Ordinance of one or both Houses of Parliament, be debarred or secluded from reimbursing themselves accordingly: And the Receipt of the said Sir Gilbert Gerard shall be a sufficient Discharge to the said Commissioners, for the said Five thousand Pounds in that Behalf.

Committee to the King.

Whereas the Lords and Commons, assembled in Parliament, have nominated and appointed Bazill Earl of Denbigh, William Lord Maynard, Members of the House of Peers, Thomas Lord Viscount Wainman, Denzill Hollis Esquire, Wm. Pierrepont Esquire, and Bulstrode Whitlock Esquire, Members of the House of Commons: And the Commissioners of the Kingdom of Scotland, residing near the Parliament, have appointed John Lord Maitland, Sir Charles Erskine Knight, and Mr. Robert Barclay, to present the Propositions of both Kingdoms for a safe and well-grounded Peace to his Majesty: The Lords and Commons do nominate and appoint, and do hereby give Power and Authority unto Bazill Earl of Denbigh, Wm. Lord Maynard, Thomas Lord Viscount Waynman, Denzill Hollis Esquire, Wm. Peirpoint Esquire, and Bulstrode Whitelock Esquire, as a Joint Committee with the before-mentioned Commissioners, to go unto his said Majesty, and to deliver unto him the Propositions agreed upon by both Kingdoms, for a safe and well-grounded Peace; and to desire of his Majesty, that they may receive his Answer in Writing; and, upon Receipt of the said Answer, to return back to the Houses with all convenient Speed.