House of Commons Journal Volume 4: 3 July 1645

Pages 194-195

Journal of the House of Commons: Volume 4, 1644-1646. Originally published by His Majesty's Stationery Office, London, 1802.

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Die Jovis, Julii 3, 1645.


A Letter, to be sent to Sir Tho. Fairefaxe and Colonel Massie, concerning the Clubmen risen in the West, was this Day read; and assented unto: And

It is Ordered, That Mr. Speaker shall have Power to sign all such of these Letters, as shall be desired by the Committee of the West, to be sent to any Persons or Places in the West.

Ordered, That Sir Henry Vane senior, Sir Wm. Strickland, Mr. Ashurst, Mr. Hoyle, Mr. Holland, Sir Henry Mildmay, Mr. Bond, Mr. Rous, Mr. Recorder, and Mr. Trenchard, be added to the Committee appointed to consider of Offices where Mr. Rigby hath the Chair.

Ordered, That the Committee of the West shall have Power to compound with, and have the Benefit of, the Compositions to be made with any Two Delinquents, not yet discovered, which shall be discovered by them; the House being first acquainted with the Particulars, according to former Orders.

Ordered, That Two hundred Barrels of Powder, with Match and Bullet proportionable, shall be forthwith furnished out of the publick Stores, for the Supply of the several Garisons in the West.

Ordered, That Mr. Speaker do, in the Name of this House, give the Lord Fairfax Thanks for his many and great Services to the Parliament.

Resolved, &c. That the Scotts Garison now in Carlisle, put in there without the Consent of the Parliament of England, be forthwith removed, in pursuance of the large Treaty of both Kingdoms.

The Lords Concurrence to be desired herein.

Resolved, &c. That Committees of both Houses be forthwith sent to the Parliament of Scotland, with this Resolution concerning Carlisle, and such other Instructions as both Houses shall think fit, for the better settling and continuing the Union between the Two Kingdoms.

The Lords Concurrence to be desired herein.

Resolved, &c. That a Conference be desired with the Lords upon these Votes; and upon the Letters and Papers sent from Sir William Armyn, and the rest of the Commissioners of the Parliament of England.

Resolved, &c. That the Lords be desired to name a Committee of the Lords House, to meet with a proportionable Number of this House, to prepare Instructions to be sent with Committees of both Houses to the Parliament of Scotland.

The Lords Concurrence to be desired herein.

Resolved, &c. That this Resolution concerning Carlisle shall, in the mean time, be communicated to the Scotts Commissioners.

The Lords Concurrence to be desired herein.

Resolved, &c. That in case the Lords do agree, that a Committee of both Houses shall be forthwith sent to the Parliament of Scotland, that the Lords be desired to consider of, and name the Number and Persons of the Lords House, that are to be sent thither.

Resolved, &c. That the Members of this House be injoined to go to the Common-Hall this Afternoon, to be present at the Communication of the Letters and Papers taken at Naesby-Field: And that the Committee, appointed to peruse those Letters and Papers, do manage the Business.

Sir Robert Pye is appointed to go to the Lords, to desire a Conference, by Committees of both Houses, so soon as may stand with their Lordships Conveniency, concerning some Letters and Papers they have received touching Carlisle; and to acquaint the Lords, That, in regard of the Importance of this Business, they have injoined the Members of their House to be present at the CommonHall this Afternoon, at the Communicating of the Letters and Papers taken at Naesby-Field; and to desire the Lords would do the like; and that the Committee, appointed to peruse these Letters, may manage this Business at the Common-Hall.

A Letter from the Scotts Commissioners, and a Paper inclosed, of the Third of July, concerning the Letters and Papers taken at Naesby-Field, were this Day read: And

It is Ordered, That Mr. Crew, Sir Henry Mildmay, and Sir Peter Wentworth, do forthwith withdraw, to prepare an Answer to this Paper.

Sir Robert Pye brings Answer from the Lords, That the Lords do agree, That the Members of both Houses do go into the City this Afternoon; and that there shall be a present Conference, by Committees of both Houses, in the Painted Chamber, as is desired.

Sir Thomas Widdrington, Mr. Reynolds, Mr. Sollicitor, Sir Henry Vane junior, and Mr. Robert Goodwyn, are appointed Managers of this Conference.

Mr. Sollicitor, Sir Henry Vane junior, Sir Thomas Widdrington, Mr. Robert Goodwyn, Sir Henry Vane senior, Mr. Rigby, Mr. Lisle, Sir Philip Stapilton, Mr. Hatcher, Mr. Pierepoint, Mr. Reynolds, Sir John Evelyn junior, and the Committee of the Northern Association, are to represent unto the House, the true State of the Garisons of Barwick, Carlisle, Newcastle, and all other the Garisons of the most Northern Counties of England, and upon the Borders of England and Scotland: And they are to meet when and where they please; and to report to the House this whole Business on Saturday next: And the particular Care of this Business is more especially referred to Sir Thomas Widdrington.

Ordered, That the Letter and Paper from the Lord Savile, concerning Mr. Hollis and Mr. Whitlocke, be taken into Consideration To-morrow Morning, the first Business after Mr. Speaker comes to the Chair.

A Message from the Lords, by Doctor Aylett and Doctor Heath;

The Lords have approved of these Observations, offered by the Committee of Lords and Commons, for Perusal of the Letters and Papers taken at Naesby-Field; with some Alterations; and desire the Concurrence of this House. They likewise desire, That the Lords and Commons that are to go into the City, may meet this Afternoon at Four of Clock, at Guildhall, London.

Answer returned by the same Messengers; That this House has considered of their Lordships Message; and do approve of the Observations upon the Letters: And, as to the Meeting at Four of the Clock, at Guildhall, London, they will send Answer by Messengers of their own.

Sir Henry Mildmay went to the Lords, to desire, That the Members of both Houses might meet at the CommonHall, at Two of the Clock; in regard of the great Length of the Business.

Mr. Crew presented an Answer to be sent to the Scotts Commissioners:

The Houses of Parliament declared by the Answer and Order, mentioned in the Paper delivered this Morning by the Commissioners of the Kingdom of Scotland to the House of Commons, That their Intentions and Resolutions were, to communicate to the Commissioners of Scotland the Letters which were taken at the last Battle. The Committee, who were appointed to make such of those Letters ready as were to be this Day published at the Common-Hall in London, did send the Clerk of the Lords House, this Morning, to the Commissioners of Scotland, with the original Letters which are to be read in the City; and commanded him to wait upon the Commissioners of Scotland till the Time of going into the City. The Letters, which concern some principal Persons in the Kingdom of Scotland, are not to be there publickly read: As soon as the Houses have made good their Engagement to the City, the Letters are to be sent unto you, and had been imparted sooner, but that the whole Time of the Committee hath been hitherto bestowed in sorting, translating, transcribing, and uncyphering such Letters, as are to be read this Day in London.

Mr. Crew and Sir Hen. Mildmay are appointed to acquaint the Commissioners of Scotland with this Answer of this House to their Paper delivered in this Day, concerning the Letters and Papers taken at Naesby-Field, and this Day to be communicated to the City at a Common-Hall.