House of Commons Journal Volume 4: 8 July 1645

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Journal of the House of Commons: Volume 4, 1644-1646. Originally published by His Majesty's Stationery Office, London, 1802.

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Die Martis, Julii 8, 1645.


SIR Henry Vane reports, from the Committee of the Revenue, a View of the Assignments upon the Revenue, and other pressing Payments, chargeable upon the same, and payable between this and Michaelmas next; which amounted to the Sum of Forty-two thousand Two hundred and Four Pounds Three Shillings Eleven-pence; and likewise Certificates of the Arrears of such Wards, whose Committees are Members of either House of Parliament, of all such Sums of Money as are due and unpaid by them, at Michaelmas, 1644.

Resolved, &c. That the Lands of such Wards, which are committed to the Members of this House, to the Use of the Ward, the Rents of the Lands, and the Sums compounded for, shall be charged upon the Lands of the Wards for which the Debt was contracted: And that Process issue accordingly, except in such Cases where the Committee of the Ward already received the Rents, and have not paid them in.

Ordered, That the particular Cases of those Gentlemen that are Members of this House, this Day reported, concerning Wardships, be referred to the Committee of the Revenue; to state their Cases, and to present them to the House, together with their Opinions thereupon: And that those Members that are concerned herein, do repair to the Committee of the Revenue; and there make their Cases known.

Ordered, That it be referred to the Committee of the Revenue, to consider what Proportions shall be fit to be abated to the Tenants, for publick Charges, out of any Rents payable to the Crown: And they are to state the same; and to present their Opinions thereupon to the House, on Thursday next.

Sir Robert Pye carried to the Lords the Order for One hundred Pounds in Money, and Five Pounds per Week, out of the Sequestrations: The Vote for Colonel Carne, Mr. Hughes, Mr. Herbert, and Mr. Walter, to be added to the several Committees of Gloucester, Hereford, Monmouth, Glamorgan, Brecknock, and Radnor: The Ordinance for Settling of Mr. Jackson to be Minister of St. Peter's Church in Gloucester.

A Message from the Lords, by Serjeant Whitfield and Serjeant Finch;

The Lords having received this Letter from the Resident of France; their Lordships are very willing, that he be received in the Houses, if he think fit to come in such Manner as was formerly agreed by both Houses; or; if he think fit to come to the joint Committee for Foreign Affairs, he shall be there received with Respect, and heard what he hath to say: And their Lordships desire the House of Commons to agree with their Lordships herein.

The Lords have received a Petition concerning one John Ogle: The Lords have granted his Desires in it; and have sent it to you, for your Concurrence: Also a Petition from the County of Bedford; which they desire you would take into Consideration: A Letter from the Lady Haddington: The Lords have agreed, That those Horses, mentioned in the Letter, shall be transported, because she brought them out of Scotland; and desire your Concurrence in it. They desire you would take into Consideration the Ordinance concerning the great Park of Windsor; and the Message sent from the Lords Yesterday, for providing for, of the Scotts Army.

Sir Robert Pye brings Answer from the Lords, That they do agree to the several Particulars carried by him to the Lords.

Resolved, &c. That this House doth agree with the Lords, in their Order for Receiving of the French Agent.

The Letter concerning the Lady Haddington was read: And

It is Resolved, &c. That this House doth agree with the Lords, for the Lady Haddington to transport those Thirteen Horses she brought with her out of Scotland.

The Petition of Colonel John Ogle was read; and nothing done upon it.

Answer returned by the same Messengers; That as to the Reception of the French Agent, and the Lady Haddington's Pass for her Horses, they do agree: And, as to the rest, they will send Answer by Messengers of their own.

A Letter from the Committee at Yorke, of July the Fourth 1645, was this Day read.

Resolved, &c. That Five thousand Pounds be forthwith speedily provided, for the Payment of the Forces that were late under the Command of the Lord Fairfax, now upon the Reducing of them.

Resolved, &c. That Five thousand Pounds be forthwith provided, to be employed for the Payment of, and the Service of, those Forces that are to be raised and maintained by the Ordinance for the Northern Association: And that this Ten thousand Pounds be charged upon the Excise, to be paid in its Course.

Whereas, by an Order of both Houses, of the Nineteenth of April last, and another of the Seventh of May following, Three thousand Pounds a Year is allowed unto the Earl of Northumberland, for a Subsistence, in Consideration of his great Sufferings: And likewise, by another Order of both Houses, bearing Date the Four and-twentieth of June last, the said Three thousand Pounds a Year is assigned, to be paid out of the Profits of the Mint: The Commons do hereby order and appoint, That the Committee for the Revenue do cause the said yearly Sum of Three thousand Pounds to be paid accordingly, out of the Profits of the Mint.

Ordered, That, on Thursday Morning next, at Eight of the Clock, the House do sit in a Grand Committee, to take into Consideration the Matter of raising Money only: And that the Ordinance concerning the Sale of Delinquents Estates, and the Ordinance for removing the Obstructions, in bringing in the Monies upon the Sequestrations of Delinquents Estates, formerly committed to particular Committees, be now committed to this Grand Committee: And this Committee is appointed to take into Consideration, How to raise Monies, either by these Ordinances, or any other Ways.

Ordered, That Mr. Ellys and Mr. Hill, do prepare and bring in an Ordinance, on Thursday Morning next, for Martial Law in London.

Resolved, &c. That Two hundred Dragoon Horses be forthwith provided by the Committee for Sir Thomas Fairfaxe's Army.

A Message from the Lords, by Sir Edward Leech and Mr. Page;

The Lords have commanded us to return you this Ordinance, concerning Argier: It moved first from this House; and the Lords do agree to it, with this Amendment: To which they desire your Concurrence. They commanded us to acquaint you, That the Lords have appointed Two of their House, to go Commissioners into Scotland, the Earl of Rutland and the Lord Wharton: And they desire, That the Committee of both Houses, that are to draw up Instructions for those Commissioners, may meet this Afternoon at Three of the Clock; and that they may then likewise take into Consideration the Business concerning Carlile.

An Ordinance for granting the Custody and Wardship of the Body and Lands of the Heir of Sir Wm. Savile Baronet, deceased, to Philip Lord Wharton, to, and for, his only Use and Benefit, was this Day read, the First and Second time; and, upon the Question, committed, upon the Debate thereupon, this Day, in the House, unto

Mr. Reynolds, Mr. Bond, Sir Wm. Brereton, Sir John Evelyn senior, Mr. Prideaux, Sir Christo. Wray, Mr. Baynton, Mr. Grimston, Mr. Ashhurst, Mr. Strode, Sir Thomas Widdrington, Sir Ben. Rudyard, Sir Wm. Allenson, Mr. Lisle, Lord Waineman, Mr. Recorder, Sir Antho. Irby, Mr. Rigby, Sir Jo. Curson, Mr. Holles, Mr. Roll, Mr. Whitlocke, Mr. Morley, Mr. Blackeston, Mr. Cage, Mr. Longe, Sir Christo. Yelverton, Sir Henry Mildmay, Mr. Buller, Mr. Heveningham: Are to meet To-morrow at Two of Clock, in the Queen's Court: And have Power to send for Parties, Witnesses, Papers, Records, &c.

The Amendment to the Ordinance concerning Argier was read; and, upon the Question, assented unto.

Resolved, &c. That as to that Part of the Message, for the Committee to meet this Afternoon, to draw up Instructions for the Commissioners that are to go into Scotland, this House doth agree: And, as to the Business concerning Carlile, they will send Answer by Messengers of their own.

Answer returned by the Second Messengers; That to the Amendment to the Ordinance concerning Algier, this House doth agree; and have appointed, that the Committee for preparing the Instructions for the Commissioners appointed to go into Scotland: As for the Business concerning Carlisle, they will send Answer by Messengers of their own.

Ordered, &c. That the Committee of the Army do take speedy Care for sending Two thousand Pair of Shoes, and Two thousand Pair of Stockings, to the Party of Sir Thomas Fairefax' Army at Taunton; to be deducted out of their Entertainment.

Ordered, &c. That the several and respective Members of the several and respective Counties, out of which the Recruits are to come for Sir Thomas Fairefaxe's Army, do, on Thursday next, give an Account to the House of their Proceedings herein.

Ordered, &c. That, To-morrow at Eleven of Clock, Mr. Corbett do make his Report, concerning the Horse that are to go to Newarke: And that the House do take into Consideration the Condition of those Parts, and of the Borders of the Association.