Journal of the House of Commons: Volume 4, 1644-1646. Originally published by His Majesty's Stationery Office, London, 1802.
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Die Sabbati, 28 Februarii, 1645.
A Paper from Monsieur de Sabran, and Monsieur de Montereul, indorsed, "Pour la tres honnorable Maison des Communes du Parlement d'Angleterre, au tres honorable Monsieur Lenthall, Orateur de la ditte Maison;" and directed "A la tres honorable Maison des Communs du Parlement d'Angleterre;" and was, for a positive Answer to the Passport formerly demanded by them for the said Monsieur to go from hence to Oxford, and so into Scotland; and to return hither; was this Day read.
A Passport of the French King's to the said Monsieur de Montereul was likewise read.
The Paper from the Scotts Commissioners, of 17 Februarii 1646/5;, in Answer to the Order of this House of the same Day, concerning the said Passport, together with the said Order, was also read.
Ordered, That the whole Business of the Desires of Monsieur Sabran and Monsieur de Montereul, to have a Pass for Monsieur de Montereul to go from hence to Oxford, and so into Scotland, and to return hither again, be referred to the Committee of both Kingdoms; to consider, What is fit to be done thereupon; and to report their Opinions with all convenient Speed.
Sir Henry Vane is to take care of this Business; and to report the Answer to the House.
Ordered, That the Reports from the Committee of both Kingdoms, in the Hands of Sir Arthur Heselrige, and Sir Henry Vane, be made on Tuesday next, in the Morning, peremptorily, the first Business.
Ordered, That on Monday next, in the Afternoon, the House do sit to read Ordinances, and hear Reports, from the Committee at Goldsmiths-Hall.
A Message from the Lords, by Doctor Aylett and Doctor Heath;
The Lords have commanded us to put this House in mind of what they formerly sent to this House, concerning the Earl of Stamford, in regard of his pressing Necessities.
Ordered, That, on Thursday Morning next, the House do take into Consideration the several Businesses concerning the Earls of Stanford, Denbigh, and Nottingham.
Answer returned by the same Messengers; That this House will take their Lordships Message speedily into Consideration; and send Answer by Messengers of their own.
Mr. Lisle, by Order of this House, carried to the Lords, for their Concurrence, the Ordinance for trying Mr. William Murray by Martial Law, as a Spy: The Ordinance for Twenty thousand Pounds for the Horse, set forth by the Eastern Association, out of the Excise: The Ordinance for Five-and-twenty hundred Pounds, out of the Excise, for reducing Dennington: An Ordinance for Two thousand Pounds, out of the Excise, for the Garison of Abingdon: And an Ordinance for Six hundred Pounds, out of the Excise, for the Kentish Horse before DenningtonCastle.
He was to put the Lords in mind of the Ordinances concerning Goldsmiths-Hall.
Mr. Reynolds brings Answer from the Lords, That they will send Answer, by Messengers of their own, to the several Messages carried by him to the Lords on Thursday last.
The Comptroller and Auditor of the Excise, according to former Order, came to the Bar; and delivered in an Accompt of the Receipts of the Excise, indorsed, in hæc verba; viz. "Anglia: The Accompt of John Towes, Thomas Foote, John Kendrick, Thomas Culham, and Simon Edmundes, Esquires, Aldermen of the City of London, John Lamott and Edward Claxton, Citizens of London, Chief Commissioners of Excise, or New Impost, upon the Ordinance of the Eleventh of September 1643, for One whole Year, ended the Eleventh Day of September, Anno Dom. 1644."
Mr. Lisle brings Answer from the Lords, That the Lords will send Answer, by Messengers of their own; to the several Ordinances carried by him this Day to the Lords.
Resolved, &c. That the Proceed of the Intervals that shall happen upon the Receipts of the Excise, before the First Day of July next, shall be all employed, except the particular Sums already charged upon the Intervals, towards the Making up of the Fourscore and four thousand Pounds, or thereabouts, charged upon the Receipts of the Excise, by Order of this House, for the Service of the Army under the Command of Sir Thomas Fairfax General.
The Lords Concurrence to be desired herein.
The Proposition for farming the Excise of the Counties of Yorkeshire and Suffolke was twice read; and delivered back to the Reporter.
A Message from the Lords, by Doctor Aylett and Doctor Heath;
The Lords desire a present Conference, in the Painted Chamber, if it may stand with the Conveniency of this House, there to communicate a Letter they have this Morning received from his Majesty; and something concerning the Propositions to be sent to his Majesty, for Peace; and something of the Business concerning the Lord Savile. They desire you to take into Consideration the Letters concerning the Lord Grey of Warke, of Mr. Welden's Petition, and of an Ordinance concerning Mr. Fathers, a Minister in the West: And they have sent you a Copy of a Letter from Lieutenant-General Lesley; and of a Declaration set forth by him for Redress of the Grievances of the Country, upon any Complaint to be made to him.
Ordered, That, on Thursday Morning next, the first Business, the Reports be made from the Committee, concerning the Reference touching the Privileges of this House.
Resolved, &c. That this House doth agree to a present Conference, upon the several Particulars desired by the Lords.
Ordered, That the Letters concerning the Lord Grey of Warke be taken into Consideration on Thursday Morning next.
Mr. Sollicitor, Sir Wm. Strickland, Mr. Prideaux, Sir Henry Vane junior, Sir John Evelyn, are appointed Reporters of this Conference.-
Ordered, That Sir William Waller, a Member of this House, shall have Liberty to be examined, at the Committee of Examinations, touching some Aspersions laid upon him by some Soldiers late under his Command.-
Answer returned by the same Messengers;
The House hath considered of your Message: And, as to the present Conference, they do agree to all the Parts of it: And, as to the rest, they will send Answer by Messengers of their own.
Sir John Evelyn reports; from the Conference, a Letter from Sir Thomas Glemham, from Oxon, of 26 Februarii 1645, directed, "To the Speaker of the House of Peers Pro tempore;" and, in it, inclosed, a Letter from his Majesty, indorsed, in the Cover, "To the Speaker of the House of Peers pro tempore;" and directed, "To the Speaker of the House of Peers pro tempore, to be communicated to the Two Houses of Parliament at Westminster, and the Commissioners of the Parliament of Scotland:" Which were read at the Conference by the Earl of Manchester; and likewise here by the Reporter, and by the Clerk.
He further reported, That the Lords do agree with this House, in the Fifth Proposition, as it came from this House, without any Addition; and do consent, That their Addition of these Words; viz. "in pursuance of That which is already agreed upon by both Houses of Parliament;" be left out, as was desired by this House at the late Conference.
He further reported, That the Lords do desire, That the Propositions already agreed upon by both Houses, and this Letter from his Majesty, may be communicated to the Scotts Commissioners by the Members of both Houses that are of the Committee of both Kingdoms.
He likewise reported an Order, formerly made by the Lords, touching the Lord Savile: To which they adhere; and was in hæc verba; viz.
Ordered, That the Committee for the Lord Savile's Business shall have Power to send a Sub-Committee, to receive what Informations the Lord Savile shall give: And the Sub-Committee to have Power to keep secret (if they think fit) what shall be delivered by the said Lord Savile, until both Houses shall require from the said SubCommittee an Account.
Resolved, &c. That this House doth agree with the Lords, That the Propositions agreed upon by both Houses, and this Letter from his Majesty, may be communicated to the Scotts Commissioners, by the Members of both Houses that are of the Committee of both Kingdoms: And this House doth further Order, That the said Members of both Houses shall desire the Scotts Commissioners Concurrence in these Propositions; to the end they may be speeded to his Majesty.
The Petition of the Lord Savile, formerly sent from the Lords, and read in this House, was this Day read again; and also the Lords Sense, in their Papers, upon the said Petition. And
It is thereupon Resolved, &c. That this House doth agree with the Lords in their Desires, this Day reported from the Conference, concerning the Lord Savile.
Ordered, That the House do sit every Thursday in the Afternoon, to take into Consideration the Business of Ireland.
Ordered, That the Report concerning Sir Wm. Waller be made on Monday Morning next.
Ordered, That, on Monday Morning next, immediately after the Business of the Church, the Business concerning the Proposition of the Militia of the City of London, and the Petition of the Sub-Committees of the Militia of the Counties of Middlesex and Surrey, Liberties of Westminster, and Hamlets of the Tower, be taken into Consideration.
Mr. Lisle reports the Amendments to the Letter to be sent to his Majesty, in Answer of his Majesty's Letter of the Twenty-ninth of January last: Which was twice read: And likewise the Letter itself, so amended, was twice read; and, upon the Question, re-committed.
Ordered, That the Committee, formerly appointed to prepare a Declaration upon the several Letters lately sent from his Majesty to the Parliament, or any Four of them, do meet this Afternoon; and bring in the said Declaration on Monday Morning next.
Ordered, That the Report concerning the Business of the Excise be proceeded in on Tuesday Morning next.
Ordered, &c. That Mr. Speaker do issue forth his Warrant to the Clerk of the Crown in Chancery, to issue forth a Writ, for the new Election of one Knight of the Shire for the County of Chester, in the room and place of Mr. Venables.
A Letter from Major-General Langherne, of 218 Februarii 1645, from Cardisse, relating the Defeat given by him to the Forces at Cardisse, was this Day read.
Resolved, &c. That Major-General Langherne shall be Commander in Chief of the County of Glamorgan: And that the Members of both Houses that are of the Committee of both Kingdoms, do grant him a Commission to be Commander in Chief of the said County; and also of the Counties of Cardigan, Carmarthen, and Pembroke.
The Lords Concurrence to be desired herein.
Resolved, &c. That this House doth approve of the Proceedings of Major-General Langherne, and of all those who were with him in the late good Service in Glamorganshire: And that a Letter of Thanks be sent to him from this House for the same.
Resolved, &c. That the Sum of One thousand Pounds be charged upon the Receipts of the Excise, to be paid, in Course, to Mr. Arthur Owen, and employed for the Providing of Horse, for the Recruits of the Horse under the Command of Major-General Langherne: And that an Ordinance be brought in accordingly.
An Ordinance for granting all the Estate of John Barloe, of Slebage in the County of Pembroke, Esquire, unto Major-General Langherne, and his Heirs, in Consideration of his good Service, was this Day read; and, upon the Question, passed; and ordered to be sent unto the Lords for their Concurrence.
Ordered, &c. That the Ministers of the several Churches and Chapels within the Limits, where the Day of Publick Thanksgiving for the Victory over the Enemies Forces at Torrington in Devonshire is appointed to be kept, do, on the same Day, take special Notice of the great Mercy in the Success of Major-General Langherne, over the revolted Forces of the Enemy at Cardiffe, in the County of Glamorgan: And that the Lord Mayor be desired to take care, that the respective Ministers may have notice hereof.