House of Commons Journal Volume 4: 20 March 1646

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Journal of the House of Commons: Volume 4, 1644-1646. Originally published by His Majesty's Stationery Office, London, 1802.

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Die Veneris, 20 Martii, 1645.


SIR Gilbert Gerard brings Answer, That the Lords do agree to the Order concerning Mr. Fogg to have Fifty Pounds out of Haberdashers-Hall: And, to the rest of the Particulars carried by him, they will send Answer by Messengers of their own.

Ordered, That the Lords be desired, That both Houses may meet to swear the Commissioners of the Great Seal; and to deliver the Great Seal of England unto them.

Sir Henry Vane is to go to the Lords with this Message.

An Ordinance for securing upon, and reimbursing out of, the Receipts of the Excise, the Sum of Twenty thousand Pounds, for the Service of the Forces under the Command of Colonel Massie, Commander in Chief of all the Forces of the Western Association, was this Day read; and, upon the Question, passed; and ordered to be sent unto the Lords for their Concurrence.

Mr. Maynard is appointed to carry it to the Lords.

Two Letters from the Commissioners at Lincolne, one of the Third of March, the other of the Seventh of March, 1645; and a Petition from the County of Nottingham; were this Day read.

Sir Arthur Haslerige reported, from the Committee of both Kingdoms, the Copy of a Letter from LieutenantGeneral David Lesley, from Kelham, of 22 February 1645; a Declaration set forth and published in several Parish-Churches by the said Lieutenant-General David Lesley; a Letter from the Committee at Yorke, of 7 Februarii; a Letter from the Commissioners of both Houses, from Grantham, of 22 Januarii; a Copy of a Letter from Lieutenant-General David Lesley, from Kelham, of 15 Januarii; the Complaints of the Grievances lately suffered from certain Reformadoes at Tickhill, pretending themselves to belong to the Scottish Army; a Copy of a Letter, without Name or Date; a Letter from J. Garfield, Vicar of Tickhill, to the Governor of PontefractCastle, of 30 Januarii, a Letter from Mr. Hatfield, of 17 Januarii 1645, to one Mr. Laughton, giving him an Account of the Petition delivered to Lieutenant-General David Lesley, concerning the Grievances and Sufferings of the Town of Tickhill; and his Answer thereunto; a Letter from the Committee at Yorke, of 16 January 1645, to the Committee of Lords and Commons now at the Leaguer before Newarke; a Letter from the joint Committee at Yorke, of 16 January, to LieutenantGeneral Lesley; a Letter from the Commissioners of both Houses, from Grantham, of 22 January 1645, to Lieutenant-General David Lesley; a Second Letter from the joint Committee at Yorke, of 20 January 1645, to Lieutenant-General David Lesley; the Answer of LieutenantGeneral David Lesley; from East-Bridgeford, of 23 Januarii, to the Lords and others the Commissioners of both Houses of Parliament; the Reply of the Commissioners from Grantham, of 23 Januarii, to LieutenantGeneral Lesley; a Letter, subscribed "John Savile, and Drury Wentworth," from Pontefract-Castle, of 2 Februarii 1645; an Information given in, and subscribed "Captain Thomas Nicholson, Lieutenant Brand, and William Walley Gentleman," concerning Words spoken by Lieutenant-General Lesley; another Information to the same Effect; Three several Warrants for Bringing in of Provisions, subscribed "Jo. Monroe." All the afore-recited Letters, and other Particulars, were all this Day read.

Sir Henry Vane brings Answer, That the Lords do agree, That the Commissioners of the Great Seal, in the Sight and Presence of both Houses, presently . . . . . . ., if it may stand with the Conveniency of this House.

Sir Walter Erle brings Answer, That the Lords do agree to the Ordinance for Twelve thousand Pounds, out of the Excise, for Provision of Powder for the publick Stores.

Mr. Maynard carried to the Lords, for their Concurrence, the Ordinance for Twenty thousand Pounds out of the Excise, for Colonel Massie's Forces in the West.

Resolved, &c. That the Committees of Yorkeshire have done nothing but their Duties in receiving, and representing to this House, the Complaints of the People exhibited to them.

Resolved, &c. That the Reports, and other Matters, concerning Yorkeshire, Nottinghamshire, and Leicestershire, be reported, and taken into Consideration, To-morrow Morning, the first Business.

Mr. Samuel Browne, Sir Hen. Vane, Sir John Evelyn of Wiltes, Col. Whyte, Sir Wm. Waller, Mr. Holles, Sir Philip Stapleton, Mr. Sollicitor-General, Sir William Strickland, Sir Anthony Irby, Sir Thomas Widdrington, Mr. Stockdale, Mr. Francis Allen, Sir Peter Wentworth, Sir Henry Mildmay, Sir William Lewes, Mr. George Fenwick, Sir Ralph Ashton, Mr. Brian Stapleton, Mr. Shelley, Mr. Darley, Mr. Robert Goodwyn, Mr. Lawrence, Mr. Marten, Mr. Blakiston, Sir Wm. Constable, Sir Wm. Allenson, Mr. Lisle, Lord Fairfax, Mr. Robinson, Mr. Fell, Mr. Gerard, Sir John Burgoyne;

This Committee, or any Five of them, is appointed to consider of all the Letters and Papers of the Report this Day made by Sir Arthur Haslerige; and to state the whole Matter of Fact, with their Opinions, What is sit to be done upon it; together with a Declaration: And are to meet this Afternoon at Two of the Clock, in the ExchequerChamber: And have Power to send for Parties, Witnesses, Papers, and Records: And the Care of this Business is more particularly referred unto Mr. Stockdale and Sir William Constable.

The House being informed, That the Gentleman-Usher of the House of Peers was at the Door;

He was called in: And, after Three Obeisances, being come up to the Middle of the House, he informed Mr. Speaker, That the Lords were ready to administer the Oath to the Commissioners of the Great Seal of England; if this House were ready to come up to be present.

Ordered, That Sir Samuel Luke shall be examined by the Committee of Accompts, concerning the Accompts and Musters of Major Ennys: And that the Committee of Accompts have Power to examine him concerning the same accordingly.

Mr. Maynard brings Answer from the Lords, That the Lords do agree to the Ordinance for Twenty thousand Pounds out of the Excise, for the Service of the Forces under Colonel Massie in the West.

Mr. Rich is appointed to carry to the Lords the Concurrence of this House in the Ordinance concerning Foreign Plantations; and to desire their Concurrence in the additional Names of the Committees of this House.

He is likewise to press the Lords to pass the Ordinances concerning Six thousand Pounds for the Forces that are to oppose Sir Jacob Astlie's Motions; and concerning the Ten thousand Pounds for the Forces of North-Wales.

Ordered, That Four thousand Pounds be charged upon Mr. Henlie's Fine, and paid by the Committee at Haberdashers-Hall, for the Use of the Garison of Abbingdon.

The Lords Concurrence to be desired herein.

Ordered, That the Advancers of this Four thousand Pounds shall have the same repaid, with Interest, out of Mr. Henlie's Fine: And that the Receipt of the Treasurer appointed to receive the same, being entered at Haberdashers-Hall, shall be a good Warrant to the Committee of Haberdashers-Hall to repay the same, with Interest, unto the Lenders thereof, accordingly: And Mr. Allen, MajorGeneral Browne, and Mr. Ball, are to take care hereof; and bring in an Ordinance accordingly.

Ordered, That Mr. Love do bring in the Establishment for Abingdon on Monday Morning next.

Ordered, That Tuesday and Thursday in every Week be set apart to take into Consideration the Business of Money, and the Ways and Means, How Monies may be provided: And that no other Business do hinder it: And that Mr. Speaker put the House in mind thereof.

Ordered, That the Committee to whom the Consideration of advancing the Excise was referred, do meet, and send for the Commissioners of the Excise, to receive their Answers: And, in case they do not give the said Committee a satisfactory Answer, that then they do treat with any other Persons for carrying on the Business of the Excise; and make Report of their Proceedings herein, on Tuesday Morning next, the first Business: And that Mr. Speaker do put the House in mind hereof.

Ordered, That the Report concerning Windsore-Castle be made To-morrow Morning, the first Business.

A Message from the Lords, by Sir Edward Leech and Mr. Page;

The Lords have commanded us to bring you this Minute of a Letter to the Prince: It is drawn by a Committee of Lords and Commons: The Lords have agreed unto it; and that the Votes of both Houses, concerning it, may be included; and that it may be signed by the Speakers of both Houses; and conveyed to the Prince by the means of the General Sir Thomas Fairfax: And they desire your Concurrence herein.

The Minute of the Letter was read; and ordered to be read again To-morrow Morning at Ten of the Clock.

Resolved, &c. That this House will, to this Message, return Answer by Messengers of their own.

Answer returned by the same Messengers; That this House has considered their Lordships Message; and will send Answer by Messengers of their own.