House of Commons Journal Volume 4: 9 April 1646

Pages 503-504

Journal of the House of Commons: Volume 4, 1644-1646. Originally published by His Majesty's Stationery Office, London, 1802.

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Die Jovis, 9 Aprilis, 1646.


UPON the humble Petition of Elizabeth Burghell Widow, the Relict of the said Colonel Burghell;

It is Resolved, &c. That an Annuity of Three hundred Pounds per Annum be charged upon the Manor of Hadenham in the County of Bucks, and paid out of the same, for the Maintenance of Elizabeth Burghell Widow, the Relict of Colonel Robert Burghell, deceased; and of her Two Children; during their Three Lives, and the Life of the longest Liver of them; in full Satisfaction of all Service, Pay, and other Demands whatsoever, due, or claimed to be due, to the said Colonel from the Parliament: And that an Ordinance be brought in to this Purpose, by Mr. Tate.

Ordered, That Colonel James Kerr, late Governor of Plymouth, be referred to the Committee of Accompts; to state and certify his Accompts.

Ordered, That, on Monday next, the Report upon Sir John Danvers' Petition, and That Business, be taken into Consideration.

Ordered, That, on Wednesday next, the Report concerning the Proposition for the Militia of the City of London, and of the Hamlets, and Lines of Communication, be taken into Consideration: And likewise the Report of the Proposition touching Delinquents.

Ordered, That the Committee to whom the Consideration of the Scotts Paper, of 6 Aprilis instant, is referred, do immediately withdraw, and make their Report concerning the same.

Ordered, That, To-morrow Morning, Mr. Speaker do take the Chair, at Eight of the Clock: And that the House do resume to themselves the Consideration of the Petition last presented from the Assembly of Divines, in the same manner as it was formerly referred to the Grand Committee of the whole House.

Mr. Holland carried to the Lords, for their Concurrence, the Order for Three hundred Twenty-six Pounds, out of Haberdashers-Hall, for Payment of Sir Richard Phillips his Debts: The Order for Mr. Ray to be Minister of St. Andrew's Church in Hertford: The Order for Twenty Pounds, out of Haberdashers-Hall, for Colonel Bettisworth's Physician: And the Order for Sale of the broken Brass Statua at Windsor.

Ordered, That the several and respective Committees of the several Counties and Places do examine, and inquire, What Soldiers of Fortune are within their Quarters, that desire to go beyond Seas; and do give them the Negative Oath; and certify the Names of such as they think fit to pass, to Mr. Speaker: And that Mr. Speaker, upon such Certificate, shall give them Passes accordingly.

Ordered, That Sir Henry Mildmay do go to the Lords, to desire them to expedite the Ordinance for Tryal of Mr. Murray, as a Spy.

Resolved, &c. That Francis Bromfield be amended and altered to Laurence Bromfield, in the late Ordinance for Martial Law; his Name being mistaken in the Passing of the said Ordinance.

Ordered, That the Committee of both Kingdoms do take care to send the Earl of Northampton out of the Parliament's Quarters; and give him a Pass to go beyond the Seas, according to former Order.

Sir Henry Mildmay went to the Lords, to desire them to expedite the Ordinance for Tryal of Mr. Murray, as a Spy; and to desire their Concurrence, That the late Ordinance for Martial Law, as to the Name Francis Bromfield, may be rectified, and made Laurence Bromfield; it being mistaken in that Particular.

The humble Petition of the poor Inhabitants of Dennington in the County of Berks; shewing, That their Houses, Stables, Barns, and divers other Buildings, together with their Goods and Housholdstuff, were burnt and consumed, by the Command of Sir John Boys, Governor of Dennington-Castle, amounting to the Sum of Five thousand Two hundred Eighty-three Pounds and Eighteen Shillings, to the utter Undoing of the Petitioners, their Wives, and many Children; they consisting of Two-andthirty Families; was this Day read.

The Articles, upon which Dennington-Castle was surrendered, were likewise read.

The House called upon a Report, in the Hands of Mr. Lisle. And

It is Ordered, That the Debate concerning Sir John Bois, and the Articles for Rendition of Dennington-Castle, be taken into Consideration, next after the said Report.

Mr. Lisle reports, from the Committee appointed to that Purpose, an Answer to the Paper of the Scotts Commissioners, of Aprilis 6 , concerning the Propositions to be sent to the King: Which was read; and was in hæc verba; viz.- "The Lords and Commons, assembled in Parliament, having taken into Consideration your Paper of the Sixth of April, concerning the Propositions to be sent to the King, do return this Answer; That we having communicated to you some of those Propositions, which we desired, for the present, should be sent to his Majesty, for a safe and well-grounded Peace; and finding, upon Perusal of your Paper of the Sixteenth of March, your Lordships have not consented, that these Propositions be sent, that are desired by us, for the Good and Security of the Kingdoms of England and Ireland; with your Reasons for the same; after serious Consideration thereof, we thought fit to adhere to our first Resolutions; and again to desire your Concurrence, for the sending them unto the King: And, although we clearly satisfied our own Judgments therein; yet, out of our earnest Desires to carry on all Businesses in a brotherly Way, we did appoint our Committees to communicate those our Resolutions, to shew the Grounds thereof, and to remove any Doubts that might stick therein with your Lordships: All which being considered, and that we have never denied our Consent, that such Propositions should be presented to the King, as your Lordships conceived to be for the Good and Security of the Kingdom of Scotland; the Matter, in your Paper of the Sixth of April, we did not expect; wherein you do desire, That the Resolutions of both Houses (after so long and mature Deliberation) should be subjected to the Debates and Alterations of a Committee of both Houses, to be joined with you, for that Purpose; and That upon Grounds, which we can by no means admit of; in regard that, by the Treaty, both Kingdoms are not bound to a joint Advice and Judgment in framing the Propositions, as is affirmed in your Paper; but that no Cessation, nor any Pacification, or Agreement for Peace, whatsoever, is to be made by either Kingdom, or the Armies of either Kingdom, without the mutual Advice and Consent of both Kingdoms; which is all, in this Particular, they are obliged to by the Treaty: And therefore, out of our earnest Desires to make use of the present Opportunity for settling the Peace of the Kingdoms, and that we may clear ourselves, before God and the World, that we have neglected no Means, which may procure the same; especially since, as your Lordships well remember, we have so often declared to the King, that they are speedily to be sent, and the Granting of them will be an effectual Means to give Satisfaction to both Kingdoms; we do again desire your Consent, that those Propositions, as we have sent them to your Lordships, may be sent to his Majesty: And we shall speedily communicate to your Lordships the Two other Propositions concerning Delinquents, and the City of London, that they may be sent, with the others;"-and, upon the Question, assented unto.

Sir John Danvers is appointed to go to the Lords, to desire them to sit awhile; in regard the House shall have Occasion to come unto them upon Matter of Importance: and to desire them to expedite the Ordinance concerning the Excise.

Ordered, That Mr. Gell, a Member of this House, shall have Leave to go into the Country.

Ordered, That the Business concerning the Settling of the Garison of Hull, and the rest of the Northern Garisons, be taken into Consideration on Saturday Morning next.

Ordered, That, the next after the Business of the Northern Garisons, the Reports from the Committee of the West be made, and taken into Consideration.

Sir John Danvers brings Answer from the Lords, That they will sit awhile: And, as to the Ordinance concerning the Excise, they will take it into Consideration; and send Answer by Messengers of their own.

A Message from the Lords, by Sir Edward Leech and Mr. Page;

The Lords have commanded us to bring you this Commission to the Lord Lisle to be Lord Lieutenant-General of Ireland: It came from you; and the Lords have agreed unto it, with one Addition; to which they desire your Concurrence:-This Order to pass that Commission under the Great Seal; to which they desire your Concurrence: -Two Letters, with the Papers inclosed; one from the Scottish Commissioners; the other from the Deputy-Governor, and other Commanders, in the Isle of Garnesey: Which they have thought fit to communicate unto you:- An Ordinance enabling some Members of both Houses to be a Committee to sit at Goldsmiths-Hall, to compound with Delinquents: They have named their Members; and have left a Space for yours; and desire you to name a proportionable Number; and to concurr in the Ordinance. And they have commanded us to let you know, that they have passed the Form of the Pardon for Delinquents, as you sent it to them:-An Order for Monsieur Sabran, the French Resient, to take the Air without the Line of Communication: In which they desire your Concurrence:-A Petition of the Resient for the Great Duke of Tuscany: Which they have agreed unto; and desire your Concurrence: As also to this Letter of the Duchess of Richmond; whose Request they have agreed unto; and desire your Concurrence:-This Ordinance for Mr. Torlesey to be Rector of the Church of Scotter in Lincolnshire: It is recommended by divers Ministers, and others: To which they desire your Concurrence:-This Ordinance for Mr. Henry Steward, and one Gray, to be paid Monies out of Sir George Ratcliff's Estate: To which they desire your Concurrence:-To put you in mind of the Petition of one Elleson: Which they formerly sent unto you; and desire you to take it into Consideration.

The Amendments to the Commission to the Lord Lisle was read; and, upon the Question, assented unto.

The Order to pass the Lord Lisle's Commission under the Great Seal was read; and was in bæc verba; viz. "Ordered, by the Lords and Commons, in Parliament assembled, That the Commissioners of the Great Seal of England are hereby authorized and required to pass, under the said Great Seal, the Lord Lisle's Commission to command in Chief in Ireland; it being passed both Houses of Parliament: And this to be their Authority for so doing;" and was, upon the Question, assented unto.

Resolved, &c. That, as to the rest of the Particulars of this Message, this House will send Answers by Messengers of their own.

Answer returned by the same Messengers; That this House has considered their Lordships Message: And, as to the Commission to the Lord Lisle, and the Order for passing the Commission under the Great Seal, they do agree: And, as to the rest of the Particulars of this Message, they will send Answer by Messengers of their own.