Journal of the House of Commons: Volume 4, 1644-1646. Originally published by His Majesty's Stationery Office, London, 1802.
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Die Lunæ, 6 Julii, 1646.
Ordered, That Prince Rupert and Prince Maurice shall have Liberty to transport the Horses they have Passes to carry beyond the Seas, Custom-free.
An Ordinance for repaying and reimbursing to Sir John Evelyn, of Surrey, Knight, a Member of this House, a Debt of One thousand Pounds, with the Interest, due and owing by Sir George Strode, a Delinquent, excepted in the First Exception out of the Sequestration or Sale of Sir George Strode's Lands, was this Day read the First time.
Mr. Recorder, Sir John Evelyn of Wilts, Mr. Boys, Mr. Walter Long, Mr. Wheeler, Sir Gilbert Gerard, Mr. John Ashe, Mr. Rous, Mr. Selden, Sir Anthony Irby, Sir John D'Avers, Sir John Holland, Mr. Whittacre, Mr. Strode, Mr. Ball, Mr. Wingate, Colonel Thompson, Mr. Dennis Bond, Mr. Tate, Sir John Hippesley, Sir William Armyn, Mr. Reynolds, Mr. Vassall, Sir John Bampfield, Mr. Alderman Atkins, Sir William Lewes, Sir John Corbett, Mr. Holland, Sir Henry Vane, Mr. Holles, Sir Henry Martyn, Mr. Lislebone Long, Sir Thomas Widdrington, Mr. Sollicitor, Mr. Hodges, Sir Christopher Yelverton, Sir Wm. Allenson, Sir Robert Pye, Lord Fairfax, Sir John Evelyn of Surrey, Mr. Boxholme, Sir Walter Erle, Colonel Moore, Mr. Baynton, Mr. Swinfen, Mr. Francis Gerard, Sir Peter Wentworth, Mr. Ludlowe, Mr. Pury;
This Committee are to consider of a fit Way and Means for the Satisfying of such just Debts as are owing to any Person or Persons that have adhered to the Parliament, by such Delinquents as are excepted, or are not admitted to Composition; and in what Manner such just Debts shall be proved and allowed of: And all the Lawyers of the House are added to this Committee: And are to meet To-morrow at Two of the Clock in the Afternoon, in the StarChamber: And they have Power to send for Parties, Witnesses, Papers, and Records.
And the Care hereof is more particularly referred to Mr. Recorder, and Sir John Evelyn of Surrey.
Mr. Holles reports a Letter to be sent to his Majesty, to desire him to command the Marquis of Ormond to deliver, into such Hands as the Parliament shall appoint, the City and Castle of Dublyn, and the Town of Drogheda, and any other Garisons there, pretended to be held by his Majesty's sole Authority.
The which was this Day read.
And the Question being put, Whether this Clause; viz. "So is it some Refreshing unto us, that your Majesty hath of late expressed yourself in Detestation of that wicked and desperate Rebellion;" shall be left out;
The House was divided.
The Yeas went forth.
|Mr. Recorder,||Tellers for the Yea:||69.|
|Sir John Clotworthy,||With the Yea,|
|Sir Arthur Hesilrige,||Tellers for the Noe:||101.|
|Mr. Reynolds,||With the Noe,|
So that the Question passed with the Negative.
And then the Letter, as it was read, amended, by Mr. Holles, was, upon the Question, assented unto; and ordered to be sent unto the Lords for their Concurrence.
Sir John Clotworthy is to carry it to the Lords.
Sir Robert Pye carried to the Lords, for their Concurrence, the Order for the Sword of State to be disposed to the Custody of the Master of the Jewels: The Votes for the Defacing and Breaking of the Great Seal, the Exchequer Seal, the King's-Bench Seal, the Court of Wards Seal, and the Seals of the Admiralty and Prerogative: And the Order for locking up and keeping the Privy Seal, the Signet Seal, and other small Seals, with the Great Seal of England.
He likewise carried to the Lords, for their Concurrence, the Orders for Days of Thanksgiving in and about London, and in the other Parts of the Kingdom: An Order for the Earl of Salisbury to be one of the Commissioners of the Great Seal of England: The Order for Colonel Jones and Colonel Sydney's Regiments to go for Ireland; and for the Lord Lieutenant to grant them Commissions: An Order for Three thousand Pounds for Worcestershire: An Ordinance for One thousand Pounds, out of the Excise of Lyme, for Colonel Ceelye's Regiment: An Order for Two hundred Pounds, out of Haberdashers-Hall, for Mr. Herbert and Mr. Mills: An Ordinance for a Pardon to Churchill, and others, for their Delinquencies: The Order for Two hundred Pounds for Colonel Pointz, out of Haberdashers-Hall: And the Order for Sir John Corbett to have the Mortgage of the Manor of * in the County of Bucks.
An Establishment for Pontefract-Castle in the County of Yorke was this Day read; and, upon the Question, assented unto; and ordered to be sent unto the Lords for their Concurrence.
Ordered, That it be referred to the Committee of the Northern Association, to consider of some expedient and fitting Course for repairing the Banks of Humber, and preventing the Mischiefs that may arise to the Country by the Overflowing of that River.
Ordered, That it be referred to that Committee, to consider of some fitting Way and Course for Repair of the Blockhouses at Hull; Regard being always had of all such Timber as is fitting for Shipping, and of all such Timber as lies convenient upon navigable Rivers fit for Shipping.
A Letter from the Committee at Yorke, of 4 Julii 1646, representing the Pressures lying upon their Country by the Forces of the Scottish Army, &c. was this Day read.
A Paper, inclosed in a Letter, from the Scotts Commissioners, from Worcester-House, of * * *, concerning their Accompts, was this Day read.
A Message from the Lords, by Mr. Justice Bacon and Mr. Baron Atkins;
The Lords have commanded us to deliver you this Message; That they have agreed to the Propositions, and to this Paper of the Scotts Commissioners: And they have nominated Two of their House, and desire that this House will name a proportionable Number, to go with them to the King; and that the Members of both Houses that are of the Committee of both Kingdoms, may impart it to the Scotts Commissioners, that they may name some of their Number to go with them.
A Message from the Lords, by Sir Edward Leech and Mr. Page;
The Lords have commanded us to bring you this Vote for the Slighting of the Works about Oxford (to which they desire your Concurrence); and to acquaint you, That the Lords have appointed a Committee of Eleven, and desire you to appoint a proportionable Number, to consider of reforming that University:-An Ordinance for Enlarging of Mr. Murray; to which they desire your Concurrence:- An Order for the Lodging of the French Ambassador in Somerset-House; to which they desire your Concurrence:- To put you in mind of the Lord Bruce to be Lord Lieutenant of Bedfordshire; and of the Lady Finnett's Petition: And to bring you this Petition of Mr. Blackmore; which the Lords have granted; and desire your Concurrence.
The Paper from the Scotts Commissioners was, concerning some Amendments and Additions to be made to the Propositions; and was read.
The First Clause in the Paper was concerning the Conservation of the Peace; and was in hæc verba; viz. These Words are omitted, "That the same Course be held for the Conservation of the Peace between the Two Kingdoms, in relation to the Peace to be made upon the Propositions to be now sent to his Majesty, as was provided and agreed upon in the Articles of the large Treaty;" which we desire may be added to the Thirteenth Proposition, or in some other Part of the Propositions.
Resolved, &c. That this Clause be committed unto Sir Thomas Widdrington, Mr. Sollicitor, Mr. Selden, Mr. Recorder, Mr. Holles, Mr. Pierpont, Sir Henry Vane junior, and Sir Philip Stapilton, or any Three of them: Who are to bring it in To-morrow Morning; and to meet upon it this Afternoon, in the Queen's Court.
Resolved, &c. That this House doth concurr with the Lords, That, after these Words, in the Twelfth Proposition, "the same shall be as valid, to all Intents and Purposes, as if the Royal Assent had been given thereunto," to add these Words, "the like for the Kingdom of Scotland."
Resolved, &c. That this House doth agree with the Lords, That, in the End of That which is now the Fourteenth Proposition, these Words be omitted, "if the Parliament of Scotland, or their Commissioners, shall so think fit."
Resolved, &c. That this House doth agree with the Lords, That the Clause, concerning the Kingdom of Scotland, subjoined to That which is now the Seventeenth Proposition, being wrong transcribed, may be thus amended; viz. "the like for the Kingdom of Scotland, concerning the Nomination of the Lords of the PrivyCouncil, Lords of Session and Exchequer, Officers of State, and Justice-General, in such manner as the Estates of Parliament there shall think fit."
The Question was propounded, That this House should concurr with the Lords, to appoint Four Members of this House to go, with a proportionable Number of the Lords, with the Propositions, to his Majesty.
And the Question was put, Whether this Question should be now put, or not: And
It passed with the Affirmative.
And then the Question being put;
It is Resolved, &c. That this House doth concurr with the Lords, to appoint Four Members of this House to go, with a proportionable Number of the Lords, with the Propositions, to his Majesty.
Resolved, &c. That the Members of this House, that shall be appointed to go, with the Propositions, to his Majesty, shall be now nominated.
Resolved, &c. That Sir John Hippesley shall be one of the Members of this House that shall be appointed to go, with the Propositions, to his Majesty.
Resolved, &c. That Sir John D'Avers shall be one of the Members of this House that shall be appointed to go, with the Propositions, to his Majesty.
Resolved, &c. That Sir Walter Erle shall be one of the Members of this House that shall be appointed to go, with the Propositions, to his Majesty.
The Question being propounded, That Luke Robinson Esquire shall be one of the Members of this House that shall go, with the Propositions, to his Majesty;
The Question was put, Whether this Question should be now put, or not: And
It passed with the Affirmative.
And then the Question itself being put;
It is Resolved, &c. That Luke Robinson Esquire shall be one of the Members of this House that shall go, with the Propositions, to his Majesty.
The First Messengers were called in: And the House returned this Answer; That the House hath considered their Lordships Message: And, as to the proportionable Number to go with the Propositions, they do agree: And, as to the rest of the Message, they will send Answer by Messengers of their own.
Resolved, &c. That the Time limited for the Commissioners that are to go, with the Propositions, to his Majesty, to stay to present the Propositions, and to receive his Majesty's Answer, shall not exceed Ten Days, to be accounted from the Time that they shall arrive at the Place where the King shall be; and that they shall stay no longer, but immediately, after that Time expired, come away.
Ordered, That it be referred to the Committee this Day appointed for the Amendments to the Propositions now sent from the Lords, to consider of Instructions to be given to the Commissioners that are to go to his Majesty to present the Propositions, and to receive his Answer; and to bring them in To-morrow Morning.
Mr. Bridge, who was appointed to preach before the Commons on Tuesday come Sevennight, being appointed a Day of Publick Thanksgiving for the Reducing of Oxon, desiring to be excused by reason of some Indisposition that is fallen upon him;
It is Ordered, That Mr. Cradock be desired to preach on that Day before the Commons: And Mr. Blakiston is appointed to acquaint Mr. Cradock with this Desire of the House.
Resolved, &c. That this House doth adhere to their former Resolution, of appointing Goring-House for the Reception of the French Ambassador.
Ordered, That the Remainder of this Message, not now considered of, be taken into Consideration on Saturday Morning next.
Answer returned by the Second Messengers; That this House hath considered their Lordships Message; and will send Answer thereunto by Messengers of their own.
Ordered, That Mr. Edward Stephens, a Member of this House, shall have Leave to go into the Country.
Resolved, &c. That a Message be sent to the Lords To-morrow Morning, to hasten their Lordships Concurrence in the Votes of this House, remaining with their Lordships, declaring, That there is no further Use of the Scotts Army in this Kingdom: And that, at the same time, they be acquainted, How long those Votes have remained with their Lordships; and that the Commons of England are unable any longer to bear the Charge of the Scotts Army.
Sir Peter Wentworth is to carry this Message to the Lords: And nothing else is to go with it.
Ordered, That the Committee for the West do consider what Garisons, within the Western Association, are fit to be disgarisoned, and what are fit to be continued; and to report the same, when the House shall consider of the Disgarisoning or Continuing of the Garison of Oxford.
Ordered, That the Committee for the Northern Association do consider what Garisons are fit to be slighted, and what Garisons are fit to be continued, within the said Association; and report the same, when the House shall take into Consideration the Slighting or Continuing of the Garison of Oxford.
Ordered, That it be referred to the Committee of Gloucester, to consider what Garisons within that County are fit to be continued, and what Garisons are fit to be slighted; and to report the same, when the House shall consider of the Slighting or Disgarisoning, or Continuing of the Garison of Oxford.
Ordered, That it be referred to the Committee where Mr. Stockdale hath the Chair, to prepare and bring in an Answer to the several Papers from the Scotts Commissioners, concerning the Accompts of their Army; and what they demand from this Kingdom.