House of Commons Journal Volume 5: 26 August 1647

Journal of the House of Commons: Volume 5, 1646-1648. Originally published by His Majesty's Stationery Office, London, 1802.

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'House of Commons Journal Volume 5: 26 August 1647', in Journal of the House of Commons: Volume 5, 1646-1648, (London, 1802) pp. 284-285. British History Online https://www.british-history.ac.uk/commons-jrnl/vol5/pp284-285 [accessed 25 April 2024]

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Die Jovis, 26 Augusti, 1647.

PRAYERS.

Leave of Absence.

ORDERED, &c. That Mr. Blague, Sir John Bampfield, and Captain Lee, Members of this House, shall have Leave to go into the Country.

Forces for Ireland.

Ordered, &c. That it be referred to the Committee for the Affairs of Ireland, at Derby House, to dispose of the Sum of Three hundred and Fifty Pounds, in their Power, for sending over the Officers that have any Charge in Ireland: That such Officers only shall receive Part thereof as will engage themselves to go within a Week after the Order made.

Ordered, &c. That all Officers of the Army of Ireland do forthwith repair to their respective Charges.

Ordered, &c. That the Lords Concurrence be desired in these Votes; and that they will enjoin the Members of their House, that are of that Committee, to attend that Service.

Merioneth Writ.

Ordered, &c. That Mr. Speaker do send his Warrant, under his Hand, to the Clerk of the Crown in Chancery, for issuing forth a Writ, for electing a Knight of the Shire to serve for the County of Merioneth in this present Parliament, in the Place of Roger Pope Esquire, formerly elected to serve as a Knight of the Shire for that County, and since deceased.

Leave of Absence.

Ordered, &c. That Mr. Shuttleworth the younger, a Member of this House, shall have Leave to go into the Country, for Recovery of his Health.

May sent for in custody.

Ordered, &c. That Mr. Robert May be forthwith sent for, in safe Custody: And that he be referred to the Examination and Consideration of the Committee for the Affairs of Ireland, at Derby House: And that the Letter to Mr. Speaker, concerning the said Robert May, be likewise referred to the said Committee.

Army Commissioners.

Ordered, &c. That the Lords Concurrence be desired in the Order for the Commissioners formerly appointed to reside in the Army, to repair to their former Employment.

Message to Lords

Sir Robert Pye carried to the Lords, for their Concurrence, this Order; and likewise the Orders this Day made, concerning the Officers that have any Charge in the Armies in Ireland, to repair to their Charges.

Excise.

A Declaration for regulating, and the better carrying on, the Receipts of the Excise, was this Day read the Second time; and, upon the Question, committed unto the Committee of Excise, or any Five of them: Who are to meet upon it this Afternoon: And have Power to confer with the Commissioners of Excise, upon this Business: And are to report it To-morrow Morning, the first Business.

Loan from the City.

Mr. Scawen reports, that some of the Committee, though but very few, went to the Common Council on Tuesday last; and proposed, by Estimate, the Sum of Fifty thousand Pounds, for a Month's Pay to the Army, to be advanced by way of Loan, upon the Credit of the Arrears of Assessments due from the City to the Army: That the Lord Mayor acquainted them, that the Common Council had considered of the Matters proposed by the Committee: That they had appointed a Committee to consider of bringing in the Arrears of the Assessments, and for advancing the Sum propounded: And that if they shall stand in need of any Power for the better and speedier bringing in the said Arrears, they shall make their Repair to the Houses for supply thereof.

Clipped Money.

Sir Henry Vanc reports from the Committee of the Revenue, to whom it was referred to take into Consideration the Abuses by clipped and falsified Monies, and to present their Opinions touching the Redress of the said Abuses and Mischiefs, their Opinion for decrying all clipped Monies.

Ordered, &c. That this Business concerning clipped Monies, be, upon the whole Debate now had in the House, referred back to the Committee of the Revenue, and the Committee appointed for the Declaration concerning the Excise, joined as to this Business: Who are to meet upon it this Afternoon; and bring in their Report To-morrow Morning, What they think fit speedily to be done in this Business: And they are to send to some Goldsmiths, and Officers of the Mint, to confer with upon this Business.

Message from Lords.

A Message from the Lords, by Mr. Page and Dr. Heath;

The Lords have received a Letter, which came from the Commissioners with his Majesty, at Oatelands; with a Report from the Committee of Lords and Commons for his Majesty's Revenue, at Westminster, concerning a Branch of the Letter, for Money to be provided for his Majesty's Privy Purse; which is especially recommended: An Order for the Lord Willoughby, Son of the Earl of Lindsey, to pass, with Four Servants, One Horse, or Gelding, and Three Nags, into France: An additional Ordinance for regulating the University of Oxon: And another Paper, concerning the Visitors of the University of Oxon: An Ordinance for Gyles Penny: In all which the Lords desire the Concurrence of this House.

The Lords desire to put the House in mind of a Petition of Captain Gualter's, formerly sent to this House: A Pass for Mr. Hawkins, with Two Horses, and his Man, to pass into France.

King's Privy Purse.

The Letter from the Commissioners with the King; and the Report from the Committee of the Revenue, concerning Money for his Majesty's Privy Purse; were read.

Ordered, &c. That the Reports from the Committee of the Revenue, concerning the Business of Tin and Alum, be made this Day Sevennight: And that then this Report from the Committee of . . . Revenue be taken into Consideration.

Lord Willoughby's Pass.

Resolved, &c. That this House doth agree with the Lords in granting a Pass to the Lord Willoughby, Son to the Earl of Lyndsey, with Four Servants, One Horse or Gelding, and Three Nags, Custom and Impost Free, to pass into France.

Oxford University.

An additional Ordinance for the Visitation and Reformation of the University of Oxon, and the several Colleges and Halls therein, now sent from the Lords, was this Day read; and, with some Amendments, passed.

Resolved, &c. That this House doth agree with the Lords, That the Visitors of the University of Oxford do sit de die in diem in the Visitation of that University; notwithstanding any Adjournment formerly made, by any of the Visitors named in the Ordinance; and to begin with the Heads of Houses, Canons of Christ-Church, and Officers of the said University, or such of them as they shall conceive to be most dangerous.

Answer from Lords.

Sir Robert Pye brings Answer, That the Lords do agree to the Particulars of the Message carried by him.

Pembroke College.

An Ordinance, formerly sent from the Lords, for making Mr. Henry Langly Master of Pembroke College in Oxon, was this day read; and, upon the Question, passed.

Answer to Lords.

Answer returned by the same Messengers; That this House hath considered their Lordships Message; and do agree, That the Lord Willoughby, Son to the Earl of Lyndsey, shall have a Pass, with Four Servants, One Horse or Gelding, and Three Nags, to pass into France: To the Order for the Visitors to sit de die in diem: To the rest, they will send Answer by Messengers of their own.

Plimmouth Garison.

An Ordinance for Payment of Eight thousand Pounds, out of the Sixty thousand Pounds per mensem, to the Garison of Plimmouth, was read; and, upon the Question, assented unto; and sent unto the Lords for their Concurrence, by Mr. Rous.

Propositions for Peace.

Ordered, &c. That Mr. Rous do put the Lords in mind of the Propositions for Peace resting with them, and desire their speedy Concurrence in them; to the end that both Kingdoms may present them to the King, for his Assent unto them.

Security of Parliament.

Ordered, That it be referred to the Committee of Lords and Commons, appointed to examine the Business of the late Force upon the Houses, to consider of some Way so the Security of the Parliament, when the Army shall be drawn off; and to report it to the Houses.

The Lords Concurrence to be desired herein.

Mr. Rous carried it to the Lords.

Scotts Army in Ireland.

Mr. Rous is appointed to put the Lords in mind of the Votes formerly sent to them, for calling the Scotts Army out of the North of Ireland.

Private Business.

Resolved, &c. That, until Monday next come Sevennight, no private Business or Motion whatsoever be made or entertained in this House.

Oxford University.

Mr. Rous carried to the Lords the Ordinance for regulating the University of Oxon, with two Amendments; the one to alter these Words "the First of this Instant May," to these Words, "the First of May last;" and to change the Word "Visitators" to the Word "Visiters."

Petition concerning Lilbourne.

The humble Petition of divers well affected Citizens of London, concerning Lieutenant Colonel Lilbourne, Mr. Overton, and others, was read: And

It is Ordered, That it be referred to the Committee where Mr. Marten has the Chair: And Mr. Marten is required to make Report of the whole Matters concerning the Persons mentioned in the said Petition, on Tuesday next come Sevennight, peremptorily, the first Business.

Answer from Lords.

Mr. Rous brings Answer, That the Lords do agree to the Amendments in the additional Ordinance for regulating the University of Oxon; to the Ordinance concerning Plimouth: And to the rest, they will send Answer by Messengers of their own.

Parliament's Guard, &c.

Whereas this House hath resolved to apply themselves, for the present, only to the Consideration of the great and publick Affairs for settling the Peace of the Kingdom: And whereas the Places about the Houses of Parliament are much visited with Sickness: It is Ordered, That the Guards appointed for this House do, from time to time, take care that the Doors or Passages to the House, and Westminster Hall, or Court of Requests, may not be troubled by any clamorous or troublesome People, upon any Pretence or Demand whatsoever. And the House doth Declare, That what shall be fit to be done to satisfy the just Demands of such Persons as have just Pretences to claim any thing from this House, shall be done in convenient Time.

Mr. Scawen is appointed to deliver a Copy of this Order to the General; and to desire his Excellency to take care, that this Order may be put in due Execution by the Guards, from time to time, as aforesaid.

Soldiers Accompts.

Ordered, That Colonel Birch and Mr. Scott do prepare and bring in an Ordinance, concerning the Stating of Soldiers Accompts, upon the Debate this Day had in the House.

Message from Lords.

A Message from the Lords, by Mr. Page and Dr. Aylett;

The Lords have commanded us to bring you an Order, concerning the King's Children; in which they desire the Concurrence of this House: To put the House in mind of Sir Fra. Willoughbie's Petition, formerly sent from the Lords. They desire that the Order formerly sent from the Lords, to make Mr. Thomas Smith Commissioner of the Navy, may be passed. That the Lords do agree to the Votes for recalling of the Scotts: And that Mr. Frost shall be sent to see the Execution thereof.

King's Children.

Ordered, by the Lords and Commons, in Parliament assembled, That the King's Children be permitted to go to his Majesty sometimes; so that they come to the Earl of Northumberland every Night.

Navy Commissioners.

The Ordinance for making Thomas Smith Esquire one of the Commissioners of the Navy, formerly sent from the Lords, was read; and, upon the Question, assented unto.

Willoughby's Petition.

The Petition of Sir Fra. Willoughby, sent from the Lords, with their Order upon it; and the Petition of Sir Fra. Willoughby to this House; were read; and ordered to be further considered of on Tuesday next come Sevennight.

Scotts Army in Ireland.

Resolved, &c. That this House doth agree, That Mr. Frost shall be sent to see the Votes of recalling the Scotts out of Ireland put in Execution.

Pelham's Claims.

Upon the Petition of Peregrine Pelham Esquire, this Day read;

It is Ordered, That the Committee for Sequestrations, in the County of Sussex, do take care, and give Order, that out of the Sale of certain Woods in the County of Sussex, called Beech Wood, belonging to the Earl of Arundell, the Debt, with Damage and Interest, as shall be made appear to the said Committee to be due unto the said Peregrine Pelham, be forthwith paid and satisfied unto him.

Propositions for Peace.

A Message from the Lords, by Mr. Page and Dr. Aylett;

The Lords have commanded us to let you know, that they do agree to the Propositions for Peace, with these Alterations and Directions; in which they desire the Concurrence of this House: And, if they agree thereunto, that it may be referred to the Members of both Houses that are of the Committee of both Kingdoms, to communicate the said Propositions for Peace to the Scotts Commissioners, that it, may be put into a speedy Way, that they may be presented unto the King.

The Directions and Alterations were read.

Ordered, That this Message, concerning the Propositions, be taken into Consideration To-morrow Morning, the first Business.

Answers to Lords.

Answer returned to the first Message; That to the Order concerning the King's Children; to the Order, That Mr. Frost shall be sent to see the Votes for recalling the Scotts out of Ireland put in Execution; and to the Order for making Mr. Thomas Smith one of the Commissioners of the Navy; they do agree: To that concerning the Petition of Sir Fra. Willoughby, they will send Answer by Messengers of their own.

Answer returned to the Second Message; that this House has considered their Lordships Message; and will send Answer by Messengers of their own.