Journal of the House of Commons: Volume 5, 1646-1648. Originally published by His Majesty's Stationery Office, London, 1802.
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Die Sabbati, 30 Octobris, 1647.
Message from Lords.
The Lords desire a Conference, by Committees of both Houses, concerning the Propositions to be sent to the King, this Day at Eleven of Clock, in the Painted Chamber, if it may stand with the Conveniency of this House. They have sent the Petition and Ordinance for the Minister of the Church of Olaves in Soutkwark: In which they desire the Concurrence of this House.
Resolved, &c. That the Report of the Visitors, concerning the Visitation of the University of Oxon, be referred to the Consideration of the Committee of Lords and Commons for regulating the University of Oxon, to hear and determine the Business; and to apply effectual Remedies, as the Cases may require.
It is Ordered, That it be referred to the Consideration of the Committee for the Affairs of Ireland, at Derby House, to consider of the Matter of Fact represented in the Petition; and to state it to the House, together with their Opinions thereupon.
An Ordinance, sent from the Lords, for appointing Wm. Ames Master in Arts, a godly, learned, and orthodox Divine, Rector of the Rectory of Olaves in Southwark, was this Day read; and, with the Addition of a Proviso for his paying of all such First Fruits, Tythes, and Duties, as are due and payable by reason of his Incumbency there, upon the Question, passed.
Answer to Lords.
Mr. Trenchard reports the State and Condition of those Lands are now in which, by Ordinance of Parliament, of 7Octobris 1645, were appointed to be within the Government of the Committee of Parliament for raising of Six thousand Pounds per Annum for the Use of his Highness Lodovick the Prince Elector; and how they are sithence disposed of; and of the Arrears of the said Revenue.
Ordered, That the Schedule, now presented, of the Two-Thirds of Recusants Estates, be referred to the Consideration of the Committee for the Prince Elector to consider, How, out of the said Estates, the yearly Sum of Eight thousand Pounds, and the Arrears thereof, may be brought in, and duly paid, for the Support of the said Prince Elector: And are to prepare and bring in an Ordinance to this Purpose.
It is further Ordered, That Sir Anthony Irby, Mr. Strickland, Sir Gregory Norton, Mr. Lawrence, Lord Carre, Mr. Lane, Mr. Whittacre, Mr. Boscawen, Mr. Wm. Pierepoint, Mr. Humfry Edwards, Colonel Thompson, Mr. Stapilton, Sir John Trevour, Mr. Marten, Mr. Weaver, Mr. Ashhurst, Sir Tho. Jervoise, be added to this Committee, to whom, by former Ordinance, the Management and bringing in the Revenue, assigned by Ordinance to the Prince Elector, is referred.
Isle of Providence.
Ordered, That the Reports and Petition of Colonel Randall Manwaring, and others, and concerning the Isle of Providence, be taken into Consideration on Tuesday Morning next, the first Business, after the Reports from Goldsmiths Hall.
Receiver of Yorkshire.
Message to Lords.
Mr. Rous carried to the Lords, for their Concurrence, the Ordinance concerning the Hundred and Fifty thousand Pounds, charged for the Army upon the Receipts of the Excise: The Vote for Approbation of the Articles of Exon: The Order concerning the Lady Moore: The Vote for Francis Penrose to be Captain of the Ship Hector: The Order upon the Report from the Visitors of Oxon: An Ordinance, by way of Declaration, concerning some Doubts made by some of the Committee of the County of Bucks, named in the Ordinance for the Sixty thousand Pounds per mensem: The Return of the Ordinance for making Mr. Wm. Ames Rector of Olives, Southwarke, with a Proviso for his paying his First Fruits and Tenths.
Propositions to the King.
The First of which was that concerning Delinquents: To which they cannot agree; first, Because the Seven excepted from Pardon of Life are not named: Next, Because those others that are not intended to be proceeded against as to Life, have no Proportion of their Estates assigned to them, nor no Fines set upon them; and therefore they do adhere to their own Proposition.
Resolved, &c. That this House doth concur with the Lords, in appointing a Committee of a proportionable Number to reduce the Propositions to be now sent to the King into Form; viz. Mr. Prideaux, Mr. Bois, Mr. Swynfen, Mr. Marten, Mr. Serjeant Wilde, Sir Walter Erle, Mr. Knightley, Mr. Nicholas, Mr. Whittacre, Colonel Purefoy, Mr. Nath. Fienis, Mr. Miles Corbett, Mr. Erle, Mr. Scawen, Mr. John Corbett, Mr. Scott, Mr. John Francklyn, Sir John Danvers, Sir Martyn Lomley; Mr. John Ashe, Mr. Solicitor, Mr. Grove, Mr. Selden. Mr. Samuell Browne, or any Ten of them, are appointed to meet with a Committee of a proportionable Number of the Lords, to reduce the Propositions into Form that shall be now agreed to be sent to the King.
Ordered, That Mr. Boys, Sir Wm. Armyn, Mr. Knightley, Mr. Swynfen, Mr. Prideaux, Colonel Purefoy, and Mr. Serjeant Wilde, be appointed Managers of the free Conference: And that it be referred to any Three of them, to prepare Reasons, to be offered to the Lords at the free Conference, for the Houses either adhering to their former Propositions, or denying any of the Additions made by the Lords.