House of Commons Journal Volume 5: 4 November 1647

Pages 349-350

Journal of the House of Commons: Volume 5, 1646-1648. Originally published by His Majesty's Stationery Office, London, 1802.

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Die Jovis, 4 Novembris, 1647.


Raising Money.

ACCORDING to former Order, the Grand Committee sat, to proceed in the Consideration of raising Monies for the Army.

Colonel White in the Chair.

Mr. Speaker resumed the Chair.

Leave of Absence.

Ordered, That Sir John Holland, a Member of this House, shall have the Leave of this House to go into the Country; and afterwards, beyond the Seas into Holland: And that his Attendance upon the Service of the House shall be dispensed with in the mean time.

Ordered, That Mr. Boate and Mr. Lister, Members of this House, shall have Leave to go into the Country.

Disbanding Forces.

Upon Colonel White's Report from the Grand Committee;

The Question was propounded, That the House will concur with the Grand Committee in the Report made by Colonel White, concerning the allowing the Sequestrations in the several Counties, to reimburse the Committees the Monies they shall advance in disbanding the disjointed Forces of the several Counties that are to be disbanded:

And the Question being put, Whether this Question shall be now put;

The House was divided.

The Noes went forth.

Mr. Annesley, Tellers for the Noe: 43.
Colonel Morley, With the Noe,
Sir Arthur Hesilrige, Tellers for the Yea: 41.
Sir Mich. Livesey, With the Yea,

So that the Question passed with the Negative.

Ordered, That the Committee of the Army do pursue effectually the former Directions and Orders given unto them, for the speedy disbanding the disjointed Forces in the several Counties that are to be disbanded: And that the several Knights of the Shire, and Burgesses of the several Places, where such disjointed Forces are, as are to be disbanded, are to repair to the said Committee; and to give them their best Assistance herein.

Resolved, &c. That the Report now made by Colonel White, concerning the bringing in the Sequestrations, be re-committed.

Message from Lords.

A Message from the Lords, by Dr. Aylett and Mr. Sadler;

That the Lords do think fit, that the Sequestration of Colonel Robert Brandling's Estate be taken off; and desire the Concurrence of this House. The Lords do agree to the Order, formerly sent from this House, for Approbation of the Articles of Exeter, with one Addition; to which they desire the Concurrence of this House:-A Letter from the Earl of Ormond to the Speaker of the House of Peers; with a Certificate, subscribed, Arth. Annesley and Robert King; which their Lordships especially recommend to this House. They desire to put this House in mind of a Petition of Captain Samuel Tomson, formerly sent from the House of Peers. They do recommend unto this House the Petition of Captain Hawkeridge, sent with this: The Lords have resolved to sit To-morrow at Three of Clock in the Afternoon, for expediting the Propositions; and thought fit to acquaint the House with so much.

Brandling's Sequestration

The humble Petition of Colonel Robert Brandling was read; and likewise the Certificates under the Hands of Sir Thomas Fairefax, of the Lord Fairefax, and of the Standing Committee of Sequestrations for the County of York; were read: And

It is Resolved, &c. That the Sequestration of the Estate, real and personal, of Colonel Robert Brandling, which he hath either in his own Right, or in the Right of his Wife, be fully and clearly taken off and discharged: And all Committees, Sequestrators, their Officers, and others whom it may concern, are to take notice hereof, and yield Obedience hereunto.

Articles of Exeter.

Resolved, &c. That this House doth concur with the Lords in the Addition of this Clause following, to the Order formerly sent to the Lords, for concurring in the Approbation of the Articles of Exeter; viz. "And that the Committee, Judges, Officers, and other Persons concerned therein, do take notice thereof, and observe the same; any Orders or Ordinances to the contrary notwithstanding."

Delinquent Lawyers.

Ordered, That, on Monday next, Sir Wm. Allenson and Mr. Robinson do bring in the Ordinance concerning the Prohibiting of Delinquent Lawyers, Attornies, and Solicitors to practise: And that Mr. Speaker do put the House in mind hereof.

Earl of Ormond.

A Letter from the Lord Ormond, from London, of 1 Novembris, 1647, with a Certificate inclosed, signed Arthur Annesley and Robert King, directed to the Speaker of the House of Peers, were read.

There was the like Letter from the Lord Ormond, directed to the Speaker of this House, with the like Certificate inclosed.

The Question being put, That the Sum of Five-andtwenty hundred Pounds be forthwith advanced and paid, by the Committee of the Revenue, to the Lord of Ormond, or his Assignee; and that it be earnestly recommended unto the Committee at Goldsmiths Hall, forthwith to pay unto the said Lord Ormond, or his Assignee, the rest of the Monies, due upon Bills of Exchange delivered unto the said Lord Ormond, in pursuance of the Agreement and Undertaking of the Commissioners of Parliament, authorized thereunto, upon Surrender of Dublyn, and Garisons, by the Lord Ormond; the Lords Concurrence to be desired herein;

The House was divided.

The Yeas went forth.

Sir Peter Wentworth, Tellers for the Yea: 71.
Colonel Purefoy, With the Yea,
Sir Robert Pye, Tellers for the Noe: 62.
Sir Anth. Irby, With the Noe,

So that the Question passed with the Affirmative.

Thompson's Claims.

The humble Petition of Captain Samuell Thompson, formerly sent from the Lords; and likewise formerly read here; whereupon an hundred Pounds was then ordered to be paid the Petitioner; was this Day read again: And

It is Ordered, That this Petition and the Demands therein made, be referred to the Examination of the Committee of this House, for the Six Counties of North Wales: And they are to take care that so much Monies as shall appear due unto the said Captain Samuell Thomson, upon the Examination and Stating of his Demands, be paid unto the said Captain Samuell Tomson, out of the Monies that are due or payable; and to be raised out of the Ordinance granted to Sir Thomas Middleton; upon the Credit whereof he Monies demanded by the Petitioner were lent and advanced.

Resolved, &c. That this House do sit To-morrow.

Mayor of Maidston.

Resolved, &c. That this House doth Declare and Order, That Mr. Ruse, chosen and sworn Mayor of the Town of Maidston in Kent, be and do continue Mayor of the said Town, to all Intents and Purposes, until he be moved by Law, and the House take further Order: And that Mr. Brooke do deliver unto the said Mr. Ruse all Ensigns of the said Office of Mayoralty, and other Things under his Power belonging to the said Office: And that all inferior Officers, sworn by the said Mr. Brook, be suspended from executing or doing any thing in pursuance of the said Power or Authority: And that no other Officers or Persons do, in the mean time, act, but such as are or shall be sworn or authorized by the said Mr. Ruse.

Irish Affairs.

Ordered, That Colonel Jones his Letter, and Diary, inclosed, be referred to the Consideration of the Committee for the Affairs of Ireland, at Derby House: And that the said Committee do, when they next make any Reports concerning Ireland, report this Letter, and Diary inclosed, to be read in the House.

Grant to Col. Castle.

Ordered, That the Sum of an Hundred Pounds be bestowed upon and paid unto Colonel Castle, who brought Preston's Cabinet, and Colonel Medhupp, and another Prisoner: And that it be referred to the Committee at Derby House to take care, and give Order, for the Payment of this Hundred Pounds, accordingly, out of any Monies under their Power, assigned for Ireland.

Ordered, That Preston's Cabinet, sent over by Colonel Jones, be delivered to the Committee on Tuesday last. appointed for Letters and Papers; and referred to their Consideration: Who are to report to the House what they find of Concernment.

Answer to Lords.

Answer returned by the same Messengers; That this House has considered their Lordships Message: And do agree to the taking off the Sequestration of the Estate, real and personal, of Colonel Robert Brandling: To the Addition to the Order for Approbation of the Articles of Exeter: They have taken into Consideration the Business concerning the Lord Ormond; and the Petition of Captain Samuell Tompson; and will send Answer by Messengers of their own; as likewise to the Petition of Captain Wm. Hawkeridg. They have resolved to sit To-morrow.