Journal of the House of Commons: Volume 8, 1660-1667. Originally published by His Majesty's Stationery Office, London, 1802.
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Saturday, September 8th, 1660.
Countees of Derby's, &c. Nat.
A BILL for Naturalizing of Dorothea Helena Countess of Derby, Wife of the Right honourable Charles Earl of Derby; Emilia called Countess of Ossery, Wife of the Right honourable Thomas Butler, called Earl of Ossery, Son, and Heir apparent, of the Right honourable James Marquis of Ormond, and Earl of Brecknock; Margaret Lady Culpepper, Wife of the Right honourable Thomas Lord Culpepper Baron of Thorsway; and the Right honourable Charles Kirkehoven, Lord Wotton, and Dame Emilia his Sister; Children of Catherine Stanhope, Countess of Chesterfeild, by John Kirkhoven Lord of Hemflett; was this Day read the Third time; and, upon the Question, passed.
Ordered, That Sir Geo. Downing do carry this Bill to the Lords.
Ordered, That the Lord Culpeper's Bill be read in the Afternoon.
Disbanding the Army.
The House resumed the Debate upon the Report made Yesterday of the Conference had with the Lords upon the Bill for disbanding the Army.
Resolved, That a Fourth Part of the Money to be raised by the Poll Bill, shall be employed proportionably to the paying off of the Five-and-twenty Ships come in from Sea, which lie in the Harbour, upon Wages and Victuals; and, after, for the paying off such other Ships as the same will further extend unto.
The Question being propounded, That an Assessment shall be laid of Seventy thousand Pounds by the Month, for Two Months, to commence the First of November next, to complete the disbanding of the whole Army; and the Remain to be applied for paying off the Fleet in Harbour; and to be employed to no other Uses;
And the Question being put, That that Question be now put;
It passed in the Affirmative.
And the main Question being put; it was
Resolved, That an Assessment shall be laid of Seventy thousand Pounds by the Month, for Two Months, to commence the First of November next, to complete the Disbanding of the whole Army; and the Remain to be applied for the paying off the Fleet in the Harbour; and to be employed to no other Uses.
Ordered, That Sir Henage Finch and Mr. Serjeant Glyn do bring in a Bill, with a Blank for the Names of the Persons to be trusted with the receiving and disbursing of the Money to be raised by the Two Months Assessment, at Seventy thousand Pounds per Mensem; with a Clause to be inserted, giving Power to the said Persons trusted, to borrow Money upon Security of the said Bill.
Ordered, That the Lord Bruce do go to the Lords, and desire a free Conference with them, upon the Subject Matter of the last Conference.
Mr. Radcliffe reports Amendments to the Bill for impowering Soldiers to exercise Trades: Which he read in his Place.
Conference agreed to.
The Lord Bruce reports, that the Lords do agree to a present free Conference.
Ordered, That the Committee who managed the last Conference, do manage this Conference with the Lords.
Lords reminded of Bills.
Ordered, That Mr. Bamfeild do go to the Lords, and communicate to them the Desires of this House, that they will give a speedy Dispatch to the Bills, for Ministers; for Marriages; for College Leases; for Fundamental Laws; and for the County of Durham.
The House adjourns till Three of Clock in the Afternoon.
Restoring L. Culpeper.
A BILL, ingrossed, sent down from the Lords, for restoring of Thomas Lord Culpeper to his Honours, Manors, Lands, Tenements, and Hereditaments, whereof he was possessed on the Twentieth Day of May in the Year of our Lord 1642, or at any time since, was this Day read the Second time.
Resolved, That the Word "unjustly" be obliterated.
Resolved, That in the 2d Skin, 15 Line, betwixt the Words "England" and "but," this Clause be inserted, viz. "nor to bring any Action of Waste, or Trespass, for any Matter relating thereunto."
The Question being put, That this Bill be committed;
It passed in the Negative.
Resolved, That this Bill be read the Third time.
The said Bill was this Day read the Third time accordingly; and, upon the Question, with the said Amendments, passed.
Restoring Earl of Inchequin.
Sir Anthony Irby reports a Proviso to the Bill for restoring unto Murrough, alias Morgan, Earl of Inchequin, all his Honours, Manors, Lands, and Tenements, in Ireland, whereof he was in Possession on the Three-and-twentieth of October 1641, or at any time since: Which was read the First and Second time; and, on the Question, agreed to be Part of the Bill; the same being as followeth; viz.
"Provided always, That this Act, or any thing therein contained, shall not extend to restore the said Murrough, alias Morgan, Earl of Insequin, unto the Honour or Office of Lord President of the Province of Munster in Ireland; which he, the said Earl of Insequin, at any time enjoyed since the Three-and-twentieth Day of October 1641; any thing in this Act contained to the contrary notwithstanding."
Resolved, That the said Proviso be ingrossed.
And the Bill, being read the Third time, with the said Proviso, upon the Question, passed.
The Lord Aungier to carry it to the Lords.
And he carried it to the Lords accordingly.
Soldiers to exercise Trades.
Resolved, That the Amendments to the Bill for enabling Soldiers to exercise Trades, be now read.
The said Amendments were accordingly read the First and Second time; and afterwards read, with the Coherence; and, upon the Question, agreed unto.
Resolved, That the Bill, with the said Amendments, be ingrossed.
Message to Lords-Adjournment.
Resolved, That a Message be sent to the Lords, to acquaint them, that this House cannot dispatch the Business depending before them, so as to adjourn this Day; and therefore to desire their Lordships not to adjourn till Tuesday next; on which Day this House purposes to adjourn: And if they concur with this House therein, they then will please to communicate the same to the King's Majesty, as the Desire of both Houses:
And that the Lord Aungier carry the Message to the Lords.
Resolved, That no new Matters, nor any of those which are depending before the House, being of a private Nature, shall be entertained, or proceeded with, in this House, till the publick Businesses be dispatched, so far as the same can be dispatched, before the next Adjournment.
Mr. Pryn reports a Bill for the erecting of Vicarages perpetual, and for the Endowment of such, so as to make the Maintenance One hundred Pounds per Ann. out of appropriate Rectories: Which was read the First time.
A Certificate from the Commissioners of the Excise was this Day read, touching Spanish Tobaccoes in the House of Mr. James Haberthwaite of London, Merchant; who keeps his Doors against the Officers employed by the said Commissioners to search for, and secure, the same: Which was read.
Answer to Message.
Lord Aungier reports, that he attended the Lords with the Message from this House; and that the Lord Chancellor gave this Answer; That their Lordships had considered thereof; and, in regard of the weighty Affairs, that cannot be dispatched this Night, they will take care to move his Majesty, that the Adjournment of the House may be put off till Tuesday Morning next.
A Message from the Lords, by Mr. Glascock and * *, Two Masters of Chancery;
Mr. Speaker, The Lords have commanded us to mind this honourable House of a Bill sent from them to this House, concerning the bringing in of Patents and Grants of Honours, and Offices; which they conceive a Business of very great and publick Concernment; and desire this House will give it as speedy a Dispatch as possibly may be.
Supply by Assessment.
Sir Henage Finch reports a Bill for Two Months Assessment, at Seventy thousand Pounds per Mensem, commencing the first of November 1660; to complete the disbanding the Army; and paying off the Ships in Harbour: Which was read the First and Second time; and, on the Question, committed to a Grand Committee.
Resolved, That the House be resolved into a Grand Committee, upon the said Bill, accordingly.
An ingrossed Bill for Seventy thousand Pounds, for One Month's Assessment, commencing 29th September 1660, for the present Supply of his Majesty, was read the Third time.
Resolved, That, in Line 51, betwixt the Word "charged," and the Word "upon," these Words "by this Act" be inserted.
And the Bill, with the said Amendment, was, upon the Question, passed.
Resolved, That the Title of the said Bill be, An Act for the speedy Raising of Seventy thousand Pounds, for the present Supply of his Majesty.
Mr. Annesley is to carry this Bill to the Lords. And he carried it to the Lords accordingly.
Thanks from D. of Gloucester.
Mr. Speaker acquaints the House, that his Highness the Duke of Gloucester had desired him to tender his Thanks to this House, for that Respect which they had lately shewed to him, in the midst of their many weighty Affairs, though by him unsought for; and that he would have returned his Thanks by Letter, had not his present Sickness disabled him, in that Behalf.
Excise and Customs.
A Bill for impowering the Commissioners of Excise and Customs to put certain Matters in Execution, was this Day read the First and Second time; and committed to the said Grand Committee.
Supply by Assessment.
The House was resolved into a Grand Committee upon the said Bill for Two Months Assessment, of Seventy thousand Pounds by the Month: And, adjourns itself to Monday next, at Eight of the Clock.
Mr. Speaker left the Chair.
Mr. Serjeant Glyn took the Chair.