House of Commons Journal Volume 8: 20 July 1663

Journal of the House of Commons: Volume 8, 1660-1667. Originally published by His Majesty's Stationery Office, London, 1802.

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'House of Commons Journal Volume 8: 20 July 1663', in Journal of the House of Commons: Volume 8, 1660-1667, (London, 1802) pp. 527-528. British History Online https://www.british-history.ac.uk/commons-jrnl/vol8/pp527-528 [accessed 21 April 2024]

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Die Lunæ, 20 Julii, 15 Car. IIdi Regis.

Prayers.

Serjeant at Arms.

A PETITION of James Norfolke Esquire, Serjeant at Arms attending this House, being read; and taken into Consideration;

Resolved, &c. That Mr. Norfolke, who hath constantly attended the Service of this House as Serjeant at Arms, be humbly recommended to his Majesty for the like Increase of Salary and Board-wages, which his Majesty hath been graciously pleased to grant to the other Serjeants at Arms: And Sir William Morrice and Colonel Legg are desired to attend his Majesty with this Recommendation of the House.

Deane Forest.

Sir Charles Harbord reports from the Committee of the Revenue, That the Committee proposed to Sir John Wintour, That, in case the Committee thought fit to lay aside the further Examination of his Accompt made in July 1661, and to proceed upon his Majesty's Agreement, to give him Thirty thousand Pounds, Whether he would agree to make a just Accompt of all the Profits and Allowances he hath had or made since that Time.

Sir John Wintour answered, That he doth agree to take Thirty thousand Pounds in full, as is proposed; and to account for all the Profits and Allowances he hath had or made since July 1661.

That they had voted, That This is a full and perfect Answer, fit to be reported to the House: And that he is to account for all the Wood he hath had since July 1661, at Ten Shillings per Cord for That in the Forest, and Six Shillings and Eight-pence per Cord for that in the Lea Bayly, as it shall be found upon Examination; without deducting any thing for any Charges or Expences; and for the Timber, at Fifteen Shillings per Ton.

And that they had agreed, That Sir John Wintour have Liberty to work out this Wood in the King's Works, with the Use of the Utensils, Mine, and Cinders; and to leave the Works and Utensils in as good Repair as he found them.

The Consideration of What Proportion of Wood he hath had being referred to a Sub Committee, it appears to be Eight thousand Two hundred and Fifty long Cords (which, at Ten Shillings per Cord, amounts to Four thousand One hundred and Twenty-five Pounds) within the Forest; and in the Lea Bayly Five thousand Seven hundred long Cords, which, at Six Shillings and Eightpence per Cord, amounts to One thousand Nine hundred Pounds; in Timber, not useful for the Navy, One hundred and Seventy-five Pounds: In all, Six thousand Two hundred Pounds: So there remains Twenty-three thousand Eight hundred Pounds: Which Sir John Wintour is contented to accept of, so as it may be well secured. To which End the Committee appointed a Bill to be drawn and presented to the House, whereby Sir John Wintour may be satisfied, and the Forest improved, and the Revenue of Five thousand Pounds per Annum settled, and the Timber preserved, according to the Order of the House of the Two-and-twentieth of May last.

Deane Forest.

A Bill for settling the Forest of Deane, and improving and preserving the Timber and Wood of the said Forest, was read the First time.

Resolved, &c. That this Bill be read the Second time on Wednesday Morning next.

D. of Yorke's Revenue.

Amendments, sent from the Lords, to the Bill for settling the Profits of the Post Office and Wine Licences on the Duke of Yorke, and the Heirs Males of his Body, were read the First time.

The several Amendments, except the Amendment to the Two-and-thirtieth Line of the Eighth Skin, were read the Second time; and, upon the Question, severally agreed to.

The Amendment to the Two-and-thirtieth Line of Eighth Skin was read:

The Question being put, To agree with the Lords in This Amendment;

The House was divided.

The Yeas went out.

Sir John Cotton, Tellers for the Yeas: 65.
Mr. Hen. Coventry, With the Yeas,
Sir Robert Holt, Tellers for the Noes: 82.
Mr. Whorwood, With the Noes,

And so it passed in the Negative.

Ordered, That a Conference be desired to be had with the Lords, upon the Bill for settling the Profits of the Post Office and Wine Licences on his Royal Highness the Duke of Yorke: And Mr. Vaughan, Mr. Seymour, Colonel Strangwayes, Sir Robert Atkins, Mr. Waller, Mr. Crouch, Mr. Clifford, Mr. Whorwood, Mr. Pryn, Mr. Yorke, are to manage the Conference.

Excise Collection.

An ingrossed Bill for the better ordering and collecting the Duty of Excise, and preventing Abuses therein, was read.

Proviso, for limiting the Times of Appeal, was thrice read: And some Amendments made thereto at the Table;

Resolved, That the Proviso, so amended, be made Part of the Bill.

Another Proviso, for enjoining of the Oaths to such as are Officers, was thrice read: And some Amendments made at the Table;

Resolved, &c. That the Proviso, so amended, be made Part of the Bill.

Resolved, That the Bill, with the Provisoes agreed to, do pass: And that the Title shall be, An additional Act for the better ordering and collecting the Duty of Excise, and preventing Abuses therein.

And Sir Thomas Meres is to carry up the Bill to the Lords for their Concurrence.

Pluralities.

An ingrossed Bill for restraining Pluralities, and Increase of the Maintenance of Curates, was read.

Ordered, That these Words, "he making Allowances to his or their Curate, as aforesaid," be added to the Bill.

Which was done.

Resolved, That the Bill do pass: And that the Title shall be, An Act for the restraining Pluralities, and Increase of the Maintenance of Curates.

And Sir Charles Harbord is to carry up the Bill to the Lords for their Concurrence.

Linen and Tapestry.

A Bill for the encouraging the Making of Linen and Tapestry, was read the Second time.

Resolved, That the said Bill be committed to Sir George Downing, Sir Tho. Littleton, Colonel Birch, Mr. Thurland, Mr. Yorke, Sir John Frederick, Sir John Birkenhead, Mr. Coventry, Sir Richard Temple, Mr. Rigby, Mr. Morrice, Mr. Newport, Sir Charles Harbord, Sir Robert Atkins, Mr. Jolly, Mr. Pryn, Mr. Westphaling, Sir Tho. Tompkins, Colonel Windham, Sir Nicholas Crispe, Mr. Waller, Sir Tho. Meres, Colonel Strangwayes, Mr. Seymour, Colonel Progers, Sir Tho. Bludworth: And all those Members, which were formerly appointed to be a Committee for Trade, be added to this Committee: And they are to meet this Afternoon at Two of the Clock, in the Speaker's Chamber: And to send for Persons, Papers, and Records.

Fitton's Petition.

A Petition on the Behalf of Mr. Fitton, and others, being tendered;

Ordered, That this Petition be read on Wednesday Morning at Ten of the Clock.

Richmond Writ.

Ordered, That Mr. Speaker do now make out his Warrant, for a Writ to issue for electing a Member for Richmond in Yorkshire, in the room of Sir John Yorke, deceased.

And then the House adjourned till Wednesday Morning next, at Eight of the Clock.