House of Commons Journal Volume 85: 2 July 1830

Veneris, 2 die Julii; Anno 1° Willielmi IV ti Regis, 1830.

PRAYERS.

Members take Oaths.

Several other Members present took the Oaths, and subscribed the Oath of Abjuration, according to the Laws made for those purposes.

Buckle's Estate Bill, passed, with Amendments.

An ingrossed Bill from the Lords, intituled, An Act to enable John Buckle, Esquire, or other Committee of the Estate of William Buckle, a Lunatic, for and in the name and on behalf of the said William Buckle, to consent to the exercise of a Power of Sale over Estates settled on the said William Buckle for his life, and which Power is exercisable with the consent of the said William Buckle, was read the third time.

Resolved, That the Bill, with the Amendments, do pass.

Ordered, That Mr. Curteis do carry the Bill to the Lords; and acquaint them, that this House hath agreed to the same, with some Amendments; to which Amendments this House doth desire the concurrence of their Lordships.

Surrey Coal Meters Bill, committed.

Ordered, That the Order of the day, for the second reading of the Bill to continue an Act passed in the ninth year of His present Majesty's reign, to enable His Majesty's Justices of the Peace for the County of Surrey to nominate and appoint two or more Persons to act as principal Land Coal Meters within and for the several Places therein mentioned, be now read; and the same being read: -The Bill was read a second time; and committed to Mr. Charles Pallmer, &c.: And they are to meet this Afternoon, in the Speaker's Chamber; and have leave to sit and proceed, and to report To-morrow.

Meltham Inclosure Bill, committed.

Ordered, That the Order of the day, for the second reading of the Bill to amend an Act of his late Majesty, intituled, An Act for inclosing Lands in the Manor of Meltham, in the Parish of Almondbury, in the West Riding of the County of York, be now read; and the same being read:-The Bill was read a second time; and committed to Sir Robert Wilson, &c.: And they are to meet this Afternoon, in the Speaker's Chamber; and have leave to sit and proceed, and to report To-morrow.

Rye Harbour Bill, passed.

Ordered, That the Order of the day, for the third reading of the ingrossed Bill to amend an Act passed in the 41st year of his late Majesty King George the Third, intituled, "An Act for more effectually improving and maintaining the old Harbour of Rye, in the County of Sussex," and to appoint new Commissioners, and to enable the Commissioners to raise additional Funds on the Tolls by way of Mortgage or otherwise, be now read; and the same being read:-The Bill was read the third time.

Resolved, That the Bill do pass.

Ordered, That Sir George Cockburn do carry the Bill to the Lords, and desire their concurrence.

Port Crommelin Harbour Bill, passed.

Ordered, That the Order of the day, for the third reading of the ingrossed Bill for establishing and maintaining the Harbour of Port Crommelin, in the Bay of Cushenden, in the County of Antrim, be now read; and the same being read:-The Bill was read the third time.

Resolved, That the Bill do pass.

Ordered, That Lord Viscount Castlereagh do carry the Bill to the Lords, and desire their concurrence.

Boydell's Divorce Bill, passed.

An ingrossed Bill from the Lords, intituled, An Act to dissolve the Marriage of Samuel Boydell with Jane Boydell Boydell his now Wife, and to enable him to marry again, and for other purposes, was read the third time.

Resolved, That the Bill do pass.

Ordered, That Mr. Curteis do carry the Bill to the Lords; and acquaint them, that this House hath agreed to the same, without any Amendment.

Petition respecting Payment of Parochial Rates by Greenwich Hospital.

A Petition of the Vicar, Churchwardens, Overseers and Governors and Directors of the Poor of Greenwich, and other Parishioners and Inhabitant Householders of the by said parish, was presented, and read; setting forth, That the parish of Greenwich has for many years afforded pecuniary relief to, and maintained a great number of, the wives and families of the pensioners of the Royal Hospital, instituted for the reception of disabled seamen at Greenwich, and that the expense of relieving the necessities of such poor persons has been a heavy and increasing burthen upon the poor rates of the said parish; that, in the year 1807, a conference took place between the Board of Directors of the Royal Hospital and the Parish Officers upon this subject, and a correct expenditure account having then been submitted by the said officers, satisfactorily proving that the Royal Hospital occasioned an expense to the parish of one-seventh of the amount actually produced by the rates, an agreement was thereupon entered into (founded upon the said account), whereby the Commissioners and Governors of the Royal Hospital agreed to contribute a sum equal to one-seventh of the net annual assessment collected from the remainder of the parish of Greenwich, on account of the poor and highways, towards the maintenance and relief of the families of the pensioners and nurses requiring parochial aid, and the repair of the highways, such composition commencing from the 25th day of March 1807, and to continue until further order; that the composition so agreed upon was paid and continued by the Royal Hospital without intermission until the end of the year 1828; but on the 31st of January 1829, the Board of Directors of that establishment gave notice to the parish officers, that the assessments of the hospital were required to be made in future in the legal form, and according to its strict legal liability, and adding, that the the Board would, from that time, recognize no other mode of assessment; that, in the year 1823, an Act of Parliament was obtained for lighting and watching the parish of Greenwich; and, on the 8th of May 1824, the Board of Directors of the Royal Hospital agreed to pay one-seventh of the lighting and watching rate, upon the same conditions as they had agreed to pay one-seventh of the poor and highway rates; but the composition upon all the rates being now discontinued, the parish is minus a large sum of money upon the lighting and watching account for the year ending Ladyday 1830; that as the Petitioners are informed and believe that the grievance complained of cannot be remedied without the aid and authority of Parliament, the Petitioners pray that the House will be graciously pleased to take all the circumstances above represented into consideration, and afford such relief, either by a legislative enactment, or by such other ways and means as to the House shall seem meet.

Ordered, That the said Petition do lie upon the Table; and be printed.

Duke of Bedford's Estate Bill, passed, with an Amendment.

An ingrossed Bill from the Lords, intituled, An Act for prohibiting Burying and Funeral Service in a Chapel of Ease intended to be built for the Parish of Saint George Bloomsbury, in the County of Middlesex, was read the third time.

Resolved, That the Bill, with the Amendment, do pass.

Ordered, That Sir Robert Wilson do carry the Bill to the Lords; and acquaint them, that this House hath agreed to the same, with an Amendment; to which Amendment this House doth desire the concurrence of their Lordships.

Power to a Committee.

Ordered, That the Committee on the Bill to prevent the spreading of Canine Madness, have Power to report the Minutes of the Evidence taken before them to the House.

Petitions against Assimilation of Duties in Ireland.

A Petition of the Sovereign, Recorder, Burgesses, Freemen, Freeholders, and other Inhabitants of the town of Clonakilty, in the county of Cork;-and, of Inhabitants of the parish of Moycullen, in the county of Galway,- were presented, and read; setting forth, That the Petitioners have heard of the intended measures of Taxation relative to Ireland with alarm and regret; that the Petitioners deem any additional burthens upon that country in its present state to be ill timed, unjust, oppressive to the subject, and ill calculated to augment the revenue; and praying, That the House will give the subject a mature consideration, and not allow the proposed project to pass into a law.

And the said Petitions were ordered to lie upon the Table.

Petitions against Duties on Stamps, &c. (Ireland.)

A Petition of Inhabitants of the village of Innishannon; -and, of the Gentry, Clergy and Freeholders of the county of Clare,-were presented, and read; setting forth, That the Petitioners, in common with their fellowcountrymen, beg to express their alarm at the determination of His Majesty's Ministers to assimilate, alter or add to the Taxation on Stamps, Corn Spirits, and Tobacco in Ireland, which the Petitioners are satisfied would prove greatly injurious to its agricultural and general prosperity; and praying the House to prevent such increase of Taxation.

And the said Petitions were ordered to lie upon the Table; and that the last be printed.

Labourers Wages Bill, deferred.

Resolved, That this House will, To-morrow, resolve itself into a Committee of the whole House, upon the Bill to amend and render more effectual the Provisions of divers Acts for securing to certain Artificers, Workmen and Labourers, in such Acts mentioned, the due Payment of their Wages in Money.

Report from Committee on Manufacturing Employment. No. 590.

Mr. Slaney reported from the Select Committee appointed to consider the means of lessening the evils arising from the fluctuation of Employment in Manufacturing Districts, and to report their observations thereupon to the House; That they had considered the matters referred to them, and had directed him to make a Report thereof to the House; and the Report was brought up, and read.

Ordered, That the Report do lie upon the Table; and be printed.

Petition respecting Poor Rates.

A Petition of James Hantler, the younger, of the parish of Saint Luke, Chelsea, was presented, and read; setting forth, That the Petitioner, having been charged with the payment of Poor Rates, has observed that they have of late increased to a most alarming extent, and are still increasing, which the Petitioner believes is occasioned by a diminished demand for labour, as appears from the unusual number of able-bodied men who have for some time past been receiving parochial relief, and a still greater number whom the Petitioner continually observes, who are, without avail, seeking employment; and he is persuaded that the evils, arising from the present diminished demand for labour, and consequent increase of Poor Rates in the parish wherein he resides, as well as in most others near the metropolis, are greatly occasioned by the depressed state of the labouring classes in the agricultural parts of the country, who, being deprived of those comforts they formerly enjoyed at home, are too often induced, by the delusive hope of improving their condition, to remove to the vicinity of the metropolis, by which means the accession of labourers in the parish wherein the Petitioner resides, and in others adjoining thereto, is far beyond the means which at present exist, or can ever be reasonably expected to exist, for affording them employment, which the Petitioner believes is the principal cause of the increase of Poor Rates of which he complains; submitting a plan for ameliorating the condition of the labouring classes in the agricultural districts; and praying the House to take the same into their consideration.

Ordered, That the said Petition do lie upon the Table.

Petition complaining of Establishment of a Penny Post at Broadstairs.

A Petition of Inhabitants of Broadstairs, in the Isle of Thanet, was presented, and read; complaining of the establishment of a Penny Post at that place, and of the late regulations of the Post Office; stating the particulars of their case; and praying for such relief as the House may think just and right to afford them, and entreating the House to place the General Post Office under such control as may prevent acts of oppression and partiality.

Ordered, That the said Petition do lie upon the Table; and be printed.

Petitions complaining of the hours of Labour in Cotton Factories.

A Petition of Operative Cotton Spinners and others employed in the cotton and silk factories in Congleton;-of Inhabitants of Ashton-under-Lyne, Stayley Bridge, and Mossley, and also of Dukenfield, Newton and Hyde;-and, of Dressers and Power-Loom Weavers employed in the Cotton Manufactories of Stockport,-were presented, and read; setting forth, That the Petitioners have seen with regret the very injurious effects of protracted labour in Cotton Factories in a heated and contaminated atmosphere, where the pure air can seldom be permitted to enter; but pernicious to health as is confinement in Cotton Factories, even in the day time, and under the most favourable circumstances, employment in such places in the night is infinitely more injurious to both the health and morals of the persons so employed; that the House have already interfered, by legislative enactments, to protect persons of tender years from being worked more than twelve hours in such Cotton Mills in the day, but there is no law to prohibit the destructive practice of working in the night; that the Petitioners are of opinion, that the use of machinery, if rightly directed, is calculated to increase the comforts and conveniences of mankind, but its unrestricted employment, instead of being a benefit, has hitherto tended to the injury of thousands, yea, tens of thousands, of the productive classes; that the Petitioners are aware, that to restrict the employment of machinery without due caution, would interfere with the trade and prosperity of this Kingdom, yet they humbly submit to the House, that no such injury would accrue from a law prohibiting the working of steamengines and water-wheels more than ten hours and a half on any one day, and eight hours and a half on Saturdays; and praying the House to pass a law entirely prohibiting the working of any steam-engines and water-wheels more than ten hours and a half on any one day, and eight hours and a half on Saturdays.

And the said Petitions were ordered to lie upon the Table; and to be printed.

Petition for reduction of Stamp Duty on Newspapers and Advertisements.

A Petition of Letter-press Printers of the cities of London and Westminster, was presented, and read; setting forth, That with respect and veneration the Petitioners venture to address the House, and declare, that for some years past considerable distress, from want of employment, has existed amongst the Letter-press Printers of the metropolis, arising in a great degree, as they humbly conceive, from the Duty upon Paper, and the high price of the Stamp required for Newspapers; that the heavy Duties imposed on Newspapers have very materially contributed to their annihilation, will, the Petitioners humbly conceive, be manifest to the House, when they state, that four daily papers have ceased to exist within the last four years, that several weekly ones have been relinquished, and that many which still exist are in a very tottering condition; that the Petitioners are convinced that much loss to the Government is occasioned by the inconvenience and delay which attend the present circumscribed and expensive channel of advertisement, and that were encouragement given to capitalists by the reduction of the Stamp on Newspapers and the Duty on Advertisements, greater facilities would be afforded to advertisers, and the product to the revenue arising from the Advertisement Duty would be considerably increased; and praying the House to lower the Duty on Paper, to reduce the Stamp on Newspapers to two-pence, and the Duty on Advertisements to two shillings, by which measures the Duty would be nearly equalized throughout the United Kingdom, much benefit rendered to the distressed Petitioners, and considerable profit arise to His Majesty's revenue.

Ordered, That the said Petition do lie upon the Table; and be printed.

The Lords have agreed to Glasgow and Kilmarnock Road Bill, with Amendments.

A Message from the Lords, by Mr. Cox and Mr. Stephen: Mr. Speaker,

The Lords have agreed to the Bill, intituled, An Act for amending and continuing an Act for repairing Roads in the County of Renfrew, and for altering the Line of Road between Glasgow and Kilmarnock, in the said County, with some Amendments; to which Amendments the Lords desire the concurrence of this House:-And then the Messengers withdrew.

Petition respecting Pawnbrokers (Ireland.)

A Petition of Thomas Flanagan, was presented, and read; setting forth, That the artizans and other industrious and labouring classes in the commercial towns of Ireland are very poor, and are consequently oftentimes obliged to borrow money upon deposits from Pawnbrokers at a heavy and ruinous interest, and much more so than is now chargeable in England; that it would relieve and accommodate the distressed portion of the inhabitants of the various towns in Ireland to repeal the Irish Pawnbrokers' Acts, and to extend to that country the English Pawnbrokers' Laws, which would promote the interest of the country, and be conducive to the welfare of the people; and praying the House to take the premises into consideration, and to extend the Pawnbrokers' Laws in England to Ireland.

Ordered, That the said Petition do lie upon the Table.

Petition for abolishing the Court of Conscience (Dublin.)

A Petition of Thomas Flanagan, was presented, and read; praying the House to abolish the Court of Conscience in Dublin.

Ordered, That the said Petition do lie upon the Table.

Petition complaining of Distress, &c.(Ireland.)

A Petition of Landholders of the united parishes of Kilmore, Kilturk, Tomhagard and Molrancan, was presented, and read; setting forth, That the Petitioners, in common with honest men of every grade, deeply deplore the appalling distress with which the country is at present pervaded; the Petitioners beg to state, that they conceive it is to the profuse and lavish expenditure of the public money, with its necessary accompaniment, the enormous weight of taxation, coupled with that most ruinous of all imposts, the present Tithe system, that the distress is mainly, if not wholly, attributable; and praying the House to adopt such measures respecting the church establishment as may lead to the total and final abolition of the present Tithe system.

Ordered, That the said Petition do lie upon the Table; and be printed.

Petition for inquiry into the Grand Jury Laws (Ireland.)

A Petition of Gentry and Inhabitants of the county of Clare, was presented, and read; setting forth, That the Petitioners approach the House with feelings of disappointment at the delayed reformation of the Grand Jury Laws of Ireland; they had hoped the imperfect character of those laws, and the recorded opinions of the country, would before now have secured the effective consideration of the Legislature; that the Petitioners recognize the justice of that leading principle of the Grand Jury Laws which places within the discretion of the gentry a final control over the amount and allocation of county expenditure; yet they cannot but deplore that such expenditure, under the present system, is too often perverted to purposes of personal interest and of private fraud, to the great detriment of the public welfare, and necessarily reflecting on the characters of the gentry, who are held responsible in public opinion for the injurious influence of the laws they are called on to administer; the evils of the Grand Jury system are flagrant and oppressive, the remedies suggested are various, and deserving the deliberate consideration of the Legislature, aided by the experience of those acquainted with the character of the country, the peculiar habits of the people, and the operation of those laws of which the Petitioners complain; and praying the immediate attention of the House to the present state of the Grand Jury Laws of Ireland.

Ordered, That the said Petition do lie upon the Table; and be printed.

Petition for repeal of Clauses in Apothecaries Act (Ireland.)

A Petition of Licentiate Apothecaries of Ennis, was presented, and read; setting forth, That, in the year 1791, the Parliament was most graciously pleased to pass an Act to protect the lives of His Majesty's subjects from the ignorance and unskilfulness of persons pretending to the art and mystery of an Apothecary, and for the better regulation of that profession in Ireland, by which Act a corporation was formed in the city of Dublin, by the name of the Governor and Company of the Apothecaries' Hall; that the Petitioners conceive said Governor and Company to be unworthy of the confidence of the Legislature, and of having the regulation of the Profession intrusted to their hands, they having perverted the Act of Parliament under which they derived their powers into an instrument of venality and corruption, said Governor and Company having, on the receipt of a sum of 20£. granted licenses to persons to practise as Apothecaries whose previous education was deficient, and who never submitted to a classical examination, or served a seven-years' apprenticeship to a qualified master, as required by the Act of Parliament, while at the same time they rigidly enforced the laws against those who would not indulge their avarice; the Petitioners beg to state, that abuses are practised in that borough, by unqualified persons professing to practise the business of an Apothecary, to the imminent danger of the lives of His Majesty's subjects; applications were made to the Governor and Company of Apothecaries' Hall, complaining of these abuses, to which they have shown the greatest apathy and indifference, and have not, as the Petitioners verily believe, taken any measures to correct them; Petitioners beg to observe, that many and serious evils have resulted from the practice of allowing grocers, and other dealers, to sell medicines, the quality, dose and operation of which they are entirely ignorant of; the Petitioners beg further to state, that they do not desire to interfere with the pecuniary concerns of Apothecaries' Hall, but humbly hope that the House will be pleased, before granting additional powers to said Corporation, to institute an inquiry into the state of the Profession in Ireland, and that in future the Court of Examiners be elected by the general body of Licentiate Apothecaries throughout the Kingdom, that the system of education be enlarged, and, for more effectually promoting the interests of science, that an institution be formed in the city of Dublin, to be called The Royal Irish College of Pharmacy, to which the regulative powers of Apothecaries' Hall be transferred; the Petitioners humbly beg, that they shall no longer be subject to the misrule of a trading Corporation, consisting of but twenty-nine practising Apothecaries, in whose election they have no voice, and whose interests are entirely opposed to the Petitioners'.

Ordered, That the said Petition do lie upon the Table; and be printed.

Return to be made forthwith.

The House was moved, That the Order made upon the 19th day of March last, That there be laid before this House, an Account of the several Fees or Sums of Money received by the Pursebearer to the Lord Chancellor in each year, during the last three years, and how many public Seals, and how many private Seals, there have been in each year, during such period, and how much of such fees has arisen from public Seals, and how much from private Seals, and how many private Seals there have been on each of the days of public Seals, and how much of the fees or sums so received has been retained by the Pursebearer for his own use and benefit, and how much of the said fees or sums has been paid or applied by the Pursebearer, to or for the use or benefit of any other person or persons, and whom, by name, might be read; and the same being read;

Ordered, That a Return to the said Order be laid before this House forthwith.

Petition in favour of Northern Roads Bill.

A Petition of Inhabitants of the city of York, was presented, and read; taking notice of the Bill for the improvement of the Roads from London to Edinburgh, and from London to Portpatrick; and for the further improvement of the Roads from London to Holyhead, and from London to Liverpool; and praying, That the same may pass into a law.

Ordered, That the said Petition do lie upon the Table; and be printed.

Petition against Surrey Coal Meters Bill.

A Petition of Thomas Bradfield, was presented, and read; taking notice of the Bill to continue an Act passed in the ninth year of His present Majesty's reign, to enable His Majesty's Justices of the Peace for the County of Surrey to nominate and appoint two or more Persons to act as principal Land Coal Meters within and for the several Places therein mentioned; and praying, That the House will not allow the further progress of the said Bill, at least until the Report of the Select Committee on the Coal Trade be made known to the House.

Ordered, That the said Petition do lie upon the Table.

Papers relating to Slave Trade, presented.

Mr. Secretary Sir Robert Peel presented to the House, pursuant to their Address to His Majesty,-Papers relating to the Slave Trade, 1829: Class (A.), Correspondence with the British Commissioners: Class (B.), Correspondence with Foreign Powers.

Ordered, That the said Papers do lie upon the Table.

Consideration of Amendments to Fees Abolition Bill, put off.

Ordered, That the Amendments made by the Lords to the Bill, intituled, An Act to abolish all Fees and Stamp Duties chargeable on the renewal of all Appointments, Commissions, Grants, Pensions and Patents consequent on the demise of the Crown, be now taken into consideration:-The House accordingly proceeded to take the said Amendments into consideration; and the same were read; and are as followeth;

Pr. 1. 1. 1. Leave out from "Whereas" to "Be" in press 2, line 11, and insert "it is expedient that such persons who shall at the demise of His present Majesty (whom God long preserve), or of any of His Successors, possess or enjoy any office, employment, pension, rank or precedence granted during the pleasure of the Crown, and who shall be continued in the possession or enjoyment thereof, should be exempted, as hereinafter provided, from the payment of Fees and Stamp Duties in respect of their re-appointment to any such office, or the re-grant of any such pension, rank or precedence."

Pr. 2. 1. 17. Leave out from "That" to the end of the Bill, and insert "every person who at the demise of His present Majesty (whom God long preserve), or of any of His Successors, shall possess or enjoy any office, employment, pension, rank or precedence granted during the pleasure of the Crown, by any letters patent, commission, warrant or other instrument, and shall be continued in the enjoyment of and be re-appointed to such office or employment, or obtain a re-grant of such pension, rank or precedence, shall be exempted, except as hereinafter provided, from paying to any of His Majesty's Successors, or to any other person or persons whomsoever, any Fee or Stamp Duty, in respect of such re-appointment or re-grant;" and also insert Clauses (A.), (B.), and (C.)

Clause (A.) "And whereas it is just and reasonable that the persons whose right and duty it is or may be, by virtue of their respective offices, to prepare, make out, settle and attend to the passing of the usual commissions, letters patent, warrants or other instruments upon such re-appointments and re-grants as aforesaid, should receive a proper and adequate remuneration for the performance of such duty; Be it Enacted, That the Lords Commissioners of His Majesty's Treasury for the time being, shall, in all such cases, fix and determine the amount of such remuneration; and that such remuneration shall be paid by the persons who would have been chargeable if this Act had not passed, with the Fees payable upon such re-appointments or re-grants as aforesaid.

Clause (B.) "Provided always, and be it further Enacted, That nothing herein contained shall extend to deprive any person, who at the time of passing this Act shall or may be entitled to any estate of freehold in his office, of any Fees or Emoluments to which he would have been by law entitled if this Act had not passed; but that every such person shall be entitled to claim, and shall receive such Fees and Emoluments, and no other, upon every such re-appointment and re-grant, as if this Act had not passed; any thing herein contained to the contrary notwithstanding.

Clause (C.) "And be it further Enacted by the authority aforesaid, That all Commissions heretofore granted or hereafter to be granted for the taking of Affidavits to be made use of and read in any court, or for the taking recognizances of bail, shall, notwithstanding any demise of the Crown, remain and continue in force during the pleasure of any Successor of the Sovereign, by whom the same Commissions may have been or may hereafter be granted, until the same shall be revoked or otherwise avoided."

In the Title of the Bill, line 1. Leave out "all" and insert "certain."

Ordered, That the said Amendments be taken into further consideration upon this day six months.

Fees and Stamp Duties Bill, ordered.

Ordered, That leave be given to bring in a Bill to abolish all Fees and Stamp Duties chargeable on the renewal of all Appointments, Commissions, Grants, Pensions and Patents consequent on the demise of the Crown: And that Mr. Hume and Mr. Warburton do prepare, and bring it in.

Committee of Supply.

A Motion was made, and the Question being proposed, That the Order of the day, for the House to resolve itself into a Committee of the whole House, to consider further of the Supply granted to His Majesty, be now read;

An Amendment was proposed to be made to the Question, by leaving out from the words "That the" to the end of the Question, in order to add the words "Sugars, the produce of the Four-and-Half per cent. Duty levied in the Islands of Barbadoes, Antigua, Montserrat, Nevis, Tortola, and Saint Christopher, have for a great number of years been sold in the like manner as all Duty-paying Sugars from the British Plantations are usually sold in this country (namely, at the long price), in which is included the Duty of Customs payable on Sugar; and that there has been no difference in this mode of sale since the date of the Treasury Minute of the 15th April 1828.

That the said Sugars have been uniformly entitled to the Drawback or Bounty payable by Law on Dutypaid Sugars, and that there has been no difference in this respect since the date aforesaid:

"That the Drawback or Bounty on any such Sugars exported since the date aforesaid has been paid out of the Revenue of the Customs, into which no Duty has been paid on account of such Sugars:

"That the net proceeds of all Monies received on account of His Majesty's Revenue of Customs ought by law to be paid into His Majesty's Exchequer, to the account of the Consolidated Fund:

"That the Duties virtually levied on the purchasers of the said Sugars, since the 25th March 1828, have not been paid into His Majesty's Revenue of Customs, and have been appropriated without the cognizance or consent of Parliament:

"That this House, having called for an Account of the Appropriation of the net proceeds of the Four-andHalf per cent. Duty, for the year ending the 5th January 1830, an Account was furnished, by which it appears, that the Pensions paid by the Husband in that year amounted to £.20,890. 1s. 4d.; that the Salaries and other Charges amounted to £.1,502. 5s. 11d.; that the Salaries and Pensions paid at the Exchequer amounted to £.20,412. 16s. 1d.; making a total of £.42,805. 3s. 4d.; and it further appears, that the net proceeds of the said Duties for the same year were £.61,059. 16s. 2d., leaving a balance of £.18,254. 12s. 10d. not accounted for by the said Return:

"That the net proceeds of the said Duties for the year ending 5th January 1829 were £.66,992. 15s. 1d.:

"That no part of the Surplus arising from the net proceeds of the said Duties for the years ending 5th January 1829 and 1830, after paying the Pensions, Salaries, and Charges thereupon for the said years respectively, has been appropriated to the payment of the Ecclesiastical Establishments in the West Indies; and that no account has been rendered to Parliament of the manner in which such Surplus has been applied:

"That to exempt from Duty any article of merchandize imported for the Crown, but not intended for the use of the Sovereign, is an extension of the King's Prerogative of dangerous example, and that to levy the Parliamentary Duties payable upon such article when sold for home consumption, and to appropriate the amount thereof without the knowledge and consent of Parliament, is an unconstitutional violation of the undoubted privileges of this House," instead thereof.

And the Question being proposed, That the words proposed to be left out stand part of the Question:-The said proposed Amendment was, with leave of the House, withdrawn.

Then the main Question being put;

Ordered, That the Order of the day, for the House to resolve itself into a Committee of the whole House, to consider further of the Supply granted to His Majesty, be now read; and the same being read;

King's Message.

Ordered, That so much of His Majesty's most gracious Message to this House, of Tuesday last, as recommends to the House to make such temporary provision as may be requisite for the conduct of the Public Service in the interval that must elapse between the close of the present Session and the assembling of a new Parliament, be referred to the Committee.

Estimates, &c. referred: Army Extraordinaries.

Ordered, That the Account of the Extraordinary Expenses of the Army incurred and paid from 25th December 1828 to 24th December 1829, both inclusive; and an Estimate of the amount required to be granted for the year 1830, which were presented to the House upon the 9th day of March last, be referred to the Committee.

Commissariat.

Ordered, That the Estimate of the Sums required for the Supply of Bread, Meat and Forage, Coals, Candles and Straw, for the Troops in Great Britain and Ireland, and for Coals, Candles, &c. for the Troops at certain Stations; also, for the Pay of the Commissariat Department, for the year 1830:-and also, the Abstracts of the Accounts of the several Commissaries upon the Stations therein mentioned, for the year ended 25th December 1828, which were presented to the House upon the 9th day of March last, be referred to the Committee.

Report of Militia Estimates.

And a Motion being made, That the Report which, upon the 8th day of June last, was made from the Select Committee appointed to prepare Estimates of the charge of the Disembodied Militia of Great Britain and Ireland, for the year 1830, be referred to the Committee;

Mr. Chancellor of the Exchequer, by His Majesty's command, acquainted the House, That His Majesty, having been informed of the subject-matter of this Motion, recommends it to the consideration of the House.

Ordered, That the said Report be referred to the Committee.

Then the House resolved itself into the Committee.

(In the Committee.)

Resolved, That it is the opinion of this Committee, that a sum, not exceeding Two hundred thousand pounds, be granted to His Majesty, towards satisfying such Annuities, Pensions or other payments, as would have been payable out of the Consolidated Fund of the United Kingdom of Great Britain and Ireland, or out of the Civil List, in case the demise of his late Majesty had not taken place before the 10th day of October 1830.

Resolved, That it is the opinion of this Committee, that a sum, not exceeding One million one hundred and twenty-six thousand five hundred and fifty-four pounds eighteen shillings and a halfpenny, be granted to His Majesty, for or towards defraying the Charges of Army Extraordinaries, Commissariat, Rideau Canal, Civil Contingencies, Repairs and Improvements at Windsor Castle, and of Miscellaneous Services in Ireland, being the sum required for the above-mentioned Services, for nine months of the year 1830.

Resolved, That it is the opinion of this Committee, that a sum, not exceeding Two hundred and seventy thousand six hundred and ninety pounds and fourteen shillings, be granted to His Majesty, for defraying the Charge of the Disembodied Militia of Great Britain and Ireland, and for the Out Pensions of the regular Militia of Great Britain, and Reduced Allowances and Out Pensions, for the Yeomanry, for the year 1830.

Resolutions to be reported.

And the House having continued to sit till after twelve of the clock on Saturday morning;

Sabbati, 3° die Julii, 1830:

Mr. Speaker resumed the Chair; and Sir Alexander Grant reported from the Committee, That they had come to several Resolutions, which they had directed him to report to the House.

Ordered, That the Report be received this day.

Sir Alexander Grant also acquainted the House, That he was directed by the Committee to move, That they may have leave to sit again.

Resolved, That this House will, upon Monday next, again resolve itself into the said Committee.

Committee of Ways and Means.

Ordered, That the Order of the day, for the House to resolve itself into a Committee of the whole House, to consider further of Ways and Means for raising the Supply granted to His Majesty, be now read; and the same being read:-The House resolved itself into the Committee.

(In the Committee.)

Resolved, That it is the opinion of this Committee, that a further sum, not exceeding One million five hundred thousand pounds, be granted to His Majesty, out of the Surplus of the Consolidated Fund of Great Britain and Ireland.

Resolution to be reported.

Mr. Speaker resumed the Chair; and Sir Alexander Grant reported from the Committee, That they had come to a Resolution, which they had directed him to report to the House.

Ordered, That the Report be received this day.

Sir Alexander Grant also acquainted the House, That he was directed by the Committee to move, That they may have leave to sit again.

Resolved, That this House will, upon Monday next, again resolve itself into the said Committee.

Committee on Administration of Justice Bill.

Ordered, That the Order of the day, for the House to resolve itself into a Committee of the whole House, to consider further of the Bill for the more effectual Administration of Justice in England and Wales, be now read; and the same being read;

And a Motion being made, and the Question being proposed, That Mr. Speaker do now leave the Chair;

An Amendment was proposed to be made to the Question, by leaving out from the word "That" to the end of the Question, in order to add the words "this House will, upon this day three months, resolve itself into the said Committee" instead thereof.

And the Question being put, That the words proposed to be left out stand part of the Question; it was resolved in the Affirmative.

Then the main Question being proposed, That Mr. Speaker do now leave the Chair;

A Motion was made, and the Question being put, That this House do now adjourn; it passed in the Negative.

Then the main Question being put;

Ordered, That Mr. Speaker do now leave the Chair:- The House accordingly resolved itself into the Committee; and, after some time spent therein, Mr. Speaker resumed the Chair; and Sir Alexander Grant reported from the Committee, That they had made a progress in the Bill; and that he was directed by the Committee to move, That they may have leave to sit again.

Resolved, That this House will, upon Monday next, again resolve itself into the said Committee.

Debate on Standing Orders respecting Subscription List, resumed.

The House, according to Order, resumed the adjourned Debate upon the Motion made upon the 18th day of May last, That every Subscription List required to be deposited in the Private Bill Office of this House do contain the Christian and Surnames, and places of abode, together with a description of the quality or calling of the Subscribers to the work, and the Sums by them respectively subscribed.

And the Question being put;

Standing Orders made.

Resolved, That every Subscription List required to be deposited in the Private Bill Office of this House, do contain the Christian and Surnames, and places of abode, together with a description of the quality or calling of the Subscribers to the work, and the Sums by them respectively subscribed.

Ordered, That the said Resolution be made a Standing Order of this House.

The House, according to Order, resumed the adjourned Debate upon the Motion made upon the 18th day of May last, That no Bill in respect of which a Subscription List is required to be deposited in the Private Bill Office (except Turnpike Road Bills), be read a second time, unless one-half of the Sum required for the probable expense of the work shall have been subscribed by persons under a Contract, binding themselves, their Heirs, Executors, Administrators and Assigns for the payment of the Money so subscribed, and that such Contract be deposited in the Private Bill Office before the second reading of any such Bill, and be produced before the Committee on the Bill, if required.

And the Question being again proposed;

An Amendment was made thereunto, by leaving out the words "in respect of which a Subscription List is required to be deposited in the Private Bill Office (except Turnpike Road Bills)" and inserting the words "for making or extending any Cut, Canal or Aqueduct for the purpose of Navigation, or for making or extending any Ways or Roads, commonly called Railways or Tramroads" instead thereof.

Then the main Question, so amended, being put;

Resolved, That no Bill for making or extending any Cut, Canal, or Aqueduct for the purpose of Navigation, or for making or extending any Ways or Roads, commonly called Railways or Tram Roads, be read a second time, unless one-half of the Sum required for the probable expense of the work shall have been subscribed by persons under a Contract binding themselves, their Heirs, Executors, Administrators and Assigns, for the payment of the Money so subscribed, and that such Contract be deposited in the Private Bill Office before the second reading of any such Bill, and be produced before the Committee on the Bill, if required.

Ordered, That the said Resolution be made a Standing Order of this House.

Libel Law Amendment Bill, deferred.

Ordered, That the Order of the day, for the House to resolve itself into a Committee of the whole House, upon the Bill to repeal so much of an Act of the sixtieth year of his late Majesty King George the Third, for the more effectual prevention and punishment of blasphemous and seditious Libels, as relates to the sentence of Banishment for the second Offence, and to provide some further remedy against the abuse of publishing Libels, be now read; and the same being read;

Resolved, That this House will, upon Monday next, resolve itself into the said Committee.

Usury Laws Bill, deferred.

The Order of the day being read, for the third reading of the ingrossed Bill to alter several Acts relating to Contracts for the Loan of Money at Interest;

Ordered, That the Bill be read the third time upon Monday next.

Parochial Registers (Scotland) Bill, deferred.

Ordered, That the Order of the day, for the second reading of the ingrossed Bill from the Lords, intituled, An Act for the better regulation of Parochial Registers in Scotland, be now read; and the same being read;

Ordered, That the Bill be read a second time upon Monday next.

Registrar at Madras Bill, deferred.

Ordered, That the Order of the day, for the House to resolve itself into a Committee of the whole House, upon the Bill for the Relief of the Representatives of Persons who have died intestate in the Presidency of Madras in the East Indies, and for the Relief of the Suitors of the Supreme Court of Judicature at Madras aforesaid, be now read; and the same being read;

Resolved, That this House will, upon Monday next, resolve itself into the said Committee.

Canada (Civil Government) Bill, deferred.

Ordered, That the Report from the Committee of the whole House, on the Bill to amend an Act passed in the 14th year of his late Majesty King George the Third, for establishing a Fund towards further defraying the Charges of the Administration of Justice, and support of the Civil Government, within the Provinces of Quebec, in America, be taken into further consideration upon Monday next.

Stage Coach Proprietors Bill, deferred.

Ordered, That the Report from the Committee of the whole House, on the Bill for the more effectual protection of Mail Contractors and Stage Coach Proprietors against Losses, by the undue concealment of the value of Parcels and Packages delivered to them for Conveyance or Custody, be taken into further consideration upon Monday next.

County Rates (Ireland) Bill, deferred.

Ordered, That the ingrossed Bill to regulate the Applotment of County Rates and Cesses in Ireland in certain cases, be read the third time this day.

Insolvent Debtors (Ireland) Bill, reported.

Sir Alexander Grant reported from the Committee of the whole House, on the Bill to continue, for a time to be limited, the Acts for the Relief of Insolvent Debtors in Ireland, the Amendments which they had made to the Bill; and the Amendments were read, and agreed to by the House.

Ordered, That the Bill, with the Amendments, be ingrossed; and read the third time this day.

Witnesses (Ireland) Bill, deferred.

Resolved, That this House will, this day, resolve itself into a Committee of the whole House, upon the Bill to explain and amend an Act of the fifty-fifth year of King George the Third, for the Payment of Costs and Charges to Prosecutors and Witnesses in cases of Felony in Ireland.

Diocesan Schools (Ireland) Bill, deferred.

Ordered, That the Bill to amend an Act of the fiftythird year of King George the Third, for the appointment of Commissioners for the regulation of the several Endowed Schools of public and private foundation in Ireland, be read the third time this day.

Army Pensions Bill, reported.

Sir Alexander Grant reported from the Committee of the whole House, on the Bill to make further regulations with respect to Army Pensions, the Amendments which they had made to the Bill; and the Amendments were read, and agreed to by the House.

Ordered, That the Bill, with the Amendments, be ingrossed; and read the third time this day.

Arms (Ireland) Bill, deferred.

Ordered, That the Report from the Committee of the whole House, on the Bill to regulate the Importation of Arms, Gunpowder and Ammunition into Ireland, and the making, selling and keeping of Arms, be taken into further consideration this day.

Report Supply (30 June), deferred.

Ordered, That the Report from the Committee of the whole House of Wednesday last, to whom it was referred to consider further of the Supply granted to His Majesty, be received upon Monday next.

Committee on Beer and Cider Duties Acts.

Resolved, That this House will, immediately, resolve itself into a Committee of the whole House, to consider of the Acts 12 Car. 2, c. 23, a Grant of certain Impositions upon Beer, Ale and other Liquors, for the increase of his Majesty's Revenue during his Life; 12 Car. 2, c. 24, for taking away the Court of Wards and Liveries, and Tenures in capite, and by Knights' Service and Purveyance, and for settling a Revenue upon his Majesty in lieu thereof; 5 & 6 Anne, c. 2 & 4, for continuing the Duties upon Malt, Mum, Cider and Perry; and, 6 Geo. 4, c. 37, to provide for the future assimilation of the Duties of Excise upon Sweets or Made Wines, upon Mead and Metheglin, upon Vinegar and upon Cider and Perry, in Great Britain and Ireland, and to continue the Duty of Excise on Sweets or Made Wines in Great Britain.

Accounts, referred;

Ordered, That the Accounts, showing the amount of the King's Hereditary Duties of Excise on Beer and Cider, from 5th January 1820 to 5th January 1830, which were presented to the House upon Wednesday last, be referred to the Committee.

Then the House resolved itself into the Committee; and after some time spent therein, Mr. Speaker resumed the Chair; and Sir Alexander Grant reported from the Committee, That they had come to several Resolutions, which they had directed him to report to the House.

Ordered, That the Report be now received.

reported.

Sir Alexander Grant accordingly reported from the Committee the Resolutions which they had directed him to report to the House, and the same were read; and are as followeth;

1. Resolved, That it is the opinion of this Committee, that the Duties of Excise on Beer and Ale brewed in Great Britain shall cease and determine, except the Hereditary Duties of Excise on Beer and Ale, and that the payment and collection of the said Hereditary Duties shall, during the life of His present Majesty, be suspended.

2. Resolved, That it is the opinion of this Committee, that there shall be allowed and paid an Excise Drawback of Five shillings on the Exportation to Foreign Parts of every thirty-six gallons of Beer or Ale, in the brewing whereof not less than two bushels of Malt shall have been used.

3. Resolved, That it is the opinion of this Committee, that the Duties of Excise on Cider made in the United Kingdom, shall cease and determine, except the Hereditary Duties of Excise on Cider, and that the payment and collection of the said Hereditary Duties shall, during the life of His present Majesty, be suspended.

4. Resolved, That it is the opinion of this Committee, that, in lieu of the said Hereditary Duties of Excise on Ale and Beer and Cider, so suspended, there shall be set apart and paid unto His Majesty, during His life, the yearly sum of Three hundred and forty-eight thousand pounds, out of the Revenues of Excise arising in England, and the yearly sum of Six thousand and five hundred pounds out of the Revenue of Excise arising in Scotland, which sums appear to have been the annual produce of the said Hereditary Duties in England and Scotland respectively, upon an average of ten years, ending 5th January 1830.

Mr. Chancellor of the Exchequer, by His Majesty's command, acquainted the House, That His Majesty is willing and consents to accept of the said yearly sums so to be set apart and paid to His Majesty in lieu of the said Hereditary Duties of Excise on Ale and Beer and Cider so suspended.

Ordered, That the Report be taken into further consideration this day.

Assessed Taxes Composition Bill, passed.

Ordered, That the ingrossed Bill to continue Compositions for the Assessed Taxes for a further term, and to grant relief from, and alter and repeal the said Duties in certain cases, be now read the third time:-The Bill was accordingly read the third time.

Resolved, That the Bill do pass: And that the Title be, An Act to continue Compositions for Assessed Taxes for a further term of one year, and to grant relief from, and alter and repeal the said Duties in certain cases.

Ordered, That Sir Alexander Grant do carry the Bill to the Lords, and desire their concurrence.

Committee on Treasurer of the Navy Bill.

Resolved, That this House will, immediately, resolve itself into a Committee of the whole House, to consider further of the Bill to consolidate and amend the several Acts relating to the Office of Treasurer of His Majesty's Navy:- The House accordingly resolved itself into the Committee; and, after some time spent therein, Mr. Speaker resumed the Chair; and Sir Alexander Grant reported from the Committee, That they had gone through the Bill, and made several Amendments thereunto.

Ordered, That the Report be received this day.

Spirit Duties Bill, deferred.

Resolved, That this House will, this day, resolve itself into a Committee of the whole House, upon the Bill to impose additional Duties of Excise on Spirits.

West India Spirits Bill, deferred.

Resolved, That this House will, this day, resolve itself into a Committee of the whole House, upon the Bill to impose an additional Duty of Customs on Spirits, the produce of the British Possessions in America.

Committee on Refined Sugar Exportation Acts;

Resolved, That this House will, immediately, resolve itself into a Committee of the whole House, to consider of the Acts 9 Geo. 4, c. 93, to allow Sugar to be delivered out of Warehouse to be refined; and, 10 Geo. 4, c. 49, to continue, until the fifth day of July one thousand eight hundred and thirty, the provisions of an Act to allow Sugar to be delivered out of Warehouse to be refined:- The House accordingly resolved itself into the Committee; and, after some time spent therein, Mr. Speaker resumed the Chair; and Sir Alexander Grant reported from the Committee, That they had come to a Resolution, which they had directed him to report to the House.

Ordered, That the Report be now received.

Reported.

Sir Alexander Grant accordingly reported from the Committee the Resolution which they had directed him to report to the House; and the same was read, and is as followeth;

Resolved, That it is the opinion of this Committee, that it is expedient to permit, for a time to be limited, Sugar (the produce of any Foreign Country) to be imported for the purpose of being refined for exportation, on payment of a Duty of twenty-four shillings for every hundred weight of such Sugar as shall not be of greater value than the average value of Sugar, the produce of the British Plantations in America, and of a further Duty of sixpence for every one shilling, by which such Sugar shall be of greater value.

Ordered, That the Report be taken into further consideration this day.

Half-Pay Apprentices Bill, deferred.

Ordered, That the Report from the Committee of the whole House, on the Bill to prevent the taking and employment of Apprentices usually denominated Half-Pay Apprentices, be taken into further consideration upon Monday next.

Report on Fishery (British and Irish Acts.

Ordered, That the Report from the Committee of the whole House, to whom it was referred to consider of the Acts 48 Geo. 3, c. 110, 55 Geo. 3, c. 94, 59 Geo. 3, c. 109, 5 Geo. 4, c. 64, 7 Geo. 4, c. 34 & 47, and, 10 Geo. 4, c.33, for the Encouragement and Improvement of the British and Irish Fisheries, and for allowing certain Bounties on the exportation from Ireland of Salmon, Red Herrings and Dried Sprats, be now received:-Sir Alexander Grant accordingly reported from the Committee the Resolution which they had directed him to report to the House; and the same was read, and agreed to by the House; and is as followeth;

Resolved, That it is expedient to revive, continue and amend several Acts for the Encouragement and Improvement of the British and Irish Fisheries respectively.

Ordered, That a Bill be brought in upon the said Resolution: And that Sir Alexander Grant, Mr. Herries, and Mr. Courtenay do prepare, and bring it in.

Sugar Duties Bill, presented.

Mr. Chancellor of the Exchequer presented a Bill for granting to His Majesty, for a time to be limited, certain Duties on Sugar imported into the United Kingdom: And the same was read the first time; and ordered to be read a second time this day.

Crown Property Customs Bill, ordered.

A Motion being made, That leave be given to bring in a Bill to subject to Duties of Customs goods the property of the Crown in case of sale after importation;

Mr. Chancellor of the Exchequer (by His Majesty's command) acquainted the House, That His Majesty, having been informed of the subject-matter of this Motion, gives His consent, as far as His Majesty's interest is concerned, that the House may do therein as they shall think fit, and recommends the same to the consideration of the House.

Ordered, That leave be given to bring in the Bill: And that Mr. Chancellor of the Exchequer and Mr. George Dawson do prepare, and bring it in.

Exchequer Bills (£.13,607,600.) Bill, presented.

Mr. Chancellor of the Exchequer presented a Bill for raising a Sum of Money by Exchequer Bills, for the service of the year one thousand eight hundred and thirty: And the same was read the first time; and ordered to be read a second time this day.

Crown Property Customs Bill, presented.

Mr. Chancellor of the Exchequer presented a Bill to subject to Duties of Customs goods the property of the Crown in case of sale after importation: And the same was read the first time; and ordered to be read a second time this day.

Fees and Stamp Duties Bill, presented.

Mr. Hume presented a Bill to abolish certain Fees and Stamp Duties chargeable on the renewal of all Appointments, Commissions, Grants, Pensions, and Patents, consequent on the demise of the Crown: And the same was read the first time; and ordered to be read a second time this day.

Fishery Acts continuance Bill, presented.

Mr. Courtenay presented a Bill to revive, continue, and amend several Acts relating to the Fisheries: And the same was read the first time; and ordered to be read a second time this day.

And then the House, having continued to sit till near three of the clock on Saturday morning, adjourned till this day.