Journal of the House of Commons: Volume 9, 1667-1687. Originally published by His Majesty's Stationery Office, London, 1802.
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Sabbati, 23 die Novembris, 1678.
State of the Army.
Conference on Address for raising the Militia.
Mr. Powle reports from the Conference, That my Lord Privy Seal managed the Conference: And that he acquainted them, That the Lords upon Perusal of the Address, appointed a Committee to consider of the Laws relating to the Militia: Who reported, That, upon Inspection of the Statutes they found, That, without further Authority, the Militia cannot be kept up above Twelve Days in One Year, and thereof Four Days to be for principal Musters, and Two, and Two, and Two, and Two; viz. Eight Days, for particular Musters; And that, of these Twelve Days, in many Counties the Lieutenants have already mustered their Men some of those Days, in this present Year: Not but that, by his Majesty's Direction (as appears by the Statute), they may be kept up longer: But their Lordships do not find, that there is any Power to raise Money to pay them.
Answer to Addresses.
Mr. Secretary Coventry acquaints the House, That his Majesty had been attended with the Address of this House, concerning Mr. Bedlow's Pardon: And that his Majesty had signed the Warrant for mending the same: And that his Majesty had likewise been attended with the Address of this House, to desire his Majesty, That such Papers, relating to the Plot, as had not been perused by this House, may be communicated to this House: And that his Majesty had granted the same; and had given Order to my Lord Chancellor to call for the Papers back from the Lords, so soon as they had perused them.
And further acquainted the House, That his Majesty was pleased to return Answer, in Writing, to the Address of this House, concerning Mr. Secretary Williamson: Which was delivered to Mr. Speaker; and by him read to the House: And is as followeth; viz.
As to the Reasons of granting those Commissions, His Majesty acquainted you at large with them, in his Speech, when you last attended Him: But, in Answer to your present Address, His Majesty promiseth to recall all Commissions whatsoever, given to Papists, or reputed Papists, either in England or Ireland, immediately: And for His remoter Dominions, they shall be likewise recalled, with all the Expedition the Safety of those Places will permit.
Answer concerning Mr. Sec. Williamson.
Reasons against Lords Amendments to Bill disabling Papists.
Sir Edward Deering reports from the Committee appointed to draw up Reasons to be offered at a Conference to be had with the Lords, Why this House does not agree with the Lords in the Second and Third Amendments made by the Lords to the Bill, intituled, An Act for the more effectual Preserving the King's Person and Government, by disabling Papists from sitting in either House of Parliament, Reasons agreed upon by the Committee: Which he read in his Place; and afterwards delivered the same in at the Clerk's Table: Where the same were twice read; and, with some Amendments made at the Table, upon the Question agreed; and are as followeth; viz.
That both Houses having declared by their Vote, That the King's Person is in Danger at this time from Popish Conspiracies, it would not only be most dangerous to his Majesty's Person, but inconsistent with such a Declaration, to admit any Popish Recusants to have a Residence in his Palace, and such familiar Access unto his Majesty's Presence.
That all Popish Recusants being, by his Majesty's Proclamation, issued at the Desire of both Houses, required to depart Ten Miles from the Cities of London and Westminster, we cannot think it adviseable to admit them now to continue and settle in his Majesty's Houses, where they may be much more dangerous than in any other Place.
That, the Design of this Act being for a further Security against all Popish Recusants, the Commons cannot think it reasonable to allow any of them Liberty, contrary to the Laws already in being: Your Lordships Amendments, by general Words, excepting such a Number of the Queen's and Royal Highnesses Servants out of the Act; it will follow, That, if any Peer of this Kingdom, or Member of the House of Commons, be so nominated by them, they will thereby be still capable of sitting in the House of Peers, or House of Commons, without taking the Oaths or Test.
Conference desired with Lords.
Resolved, &c. That a Conference be desired with the Lords, upon the Amendments made by the Lords to the Bill, intituled, An Act for the more effectual Preserving the King's Person and Government, by disabling Papists from sitting in either House of Parliament: And that Sir Edmund Jenings do desire the Conference.
Lists of Papists.
Resolved, &c. That the Knights of the Shire do, on Tuesday next come Sevennight, bring in a List of all Persons of Note, being Popish Recusants, or so reputed, resident, or having a considerable Estate, within their respective Counties: And that the Knights, Citizens, and Burgesses, who serve for each County, do meet together; and agree, and prepare such Lists; and sign the same.
Call of the House.
Conference with Lords.
Persons to render themselves to Justice.
Mr. Speaker, The Lords have commanded us to attend you with a Bill, intituled, An Act requiring the Persons therein named to render themselves to Justice; and, in default thereof, to attaint them of High Treason: To which they desire the Concurrence of this House.
Absent Members summoned.
Resolved, Whereas the House of Commons taking Notice of the absence of several of their Members, That Letters be sent to the Sheriff of each County to summon the Knights of the Shire, who do serve for their respective Counties, to give their Attendance on the Service of the House; as likewise, to send to the several and respective Cities and Boroughs within their Counties, to summon the Members, who do represent their Corporations, to give their Attendance on the Service of the House.
Persons to render themselves to Justice.
An ingrossed Bill, sent from the Lords, intituled, An Act requiring the Persons therein named, to render themselves to Justice; and, in Default thereof, to attaint them of High Treason; was read the First time.
Conference on Bill disabling Papists.
Sir Edward Deering reports, that the Persons appointed had attended the Conference: Which was managed by my Lord Chancellor: Who acquainted them, that the Lords had considered of the Reasons offered at the last Conference; and that they carried great weight with them: And that the Lords did propose an Expedient, which was, for striking the Queen wholly out of the Bill, and so leave her Servants liable to the Law in general; in which they hoped this House would concur: But if this House should not think . . . to concur with the Lords in this Expedient, that then their Lordships would take the Amendments and Reasons into further Consideration.
Petition irregularly signed rejected.
Murders and Assaults.
Resolved, &c. That the Committee appointed to examine concerning the murder of Sir Edmundbury Godfrey, do examine concerning the frequent Murders and Assaults which have been lately committed; and to consider of Remedies to prevent the like; and to report their Opinions to the House.