Cases before the Committee: November 1644

Calendar, Committee For Compounding: Part 2. Originally published by Her Majesty's Stationery Office, London, 1890.

'Cases before the Committee: November 1644', in Calendar, Committee For Compounding: Part 2, (London, 1890) pp. 869-874. British History Online https://www.british-history.ac.uk/compounding-committee/pt2/pp869-874 [accessed 19 April 2024]

November 1644

John Neville, Lord Abergavenny, Sherborn Castle, Co. Oxon, Lady Catherine Neville, his Mother, and Mary and Elizabeth Neville, his Sisters.


7 Nov. 1644.		Vol. A	No. or p.

	Order in the House of Commons that the Sequestration Committee order the County Committee of Suffolk to allow 70l. a year to Mary, and 50l. to Eliz. Neville.	61	73
	8 Nov. 1644. Order in the Sequestration Committee that the County Committee for Suffolk pay 70l. a year to Mary Neville, sister to Lord Abergavenny, out of the lands and revenues formerly payable to Eliz. Neville.	61 206	75 58
	24 December. Like order referring their petition to the Committees for Norfolk and Suffolk, to take care for the full discovery of Lord Abergavenny's estate, and whether Rob. Suckling and Thos. Stone are fit stewards of it.	61	79
C. 206 55	31 March 1648. Lord Abergavenny petitions to be admitted to composition. Left Parliament quarters, and resided in the King's quarters. Was in Oxford, surrendered on the Articles, and petitioned within the time limited thereby, as certified by Sir T. Fairfax.	206	46
	March? Particulars of the value of his estates in cos. Warwick, Worcester, Suffolk, Norfolk, Surrey, Wilts, Hereford, Sussex, and Monmouth, and request for allowance of annuities of 120l. a year to his half-sisters, Mary and Eliz. Neville, and of 200l. to his own brothers and sisters, George, Katharine, Frances, and Eliz. Neville.	206	23, 47
C. 206 59, 51, 53 D. 123 595 597 R.206 13 NOTE 206 48	2 June. Lord Abergavenny's case remitted to amend his particulars, and give further satisfaction to the sub-committee.	4	204
	9 June. Fine at1/10, 2,186l. 10s. 0d. for the whole estate, for ½ 728l. 16s. 11d. Compounding as a recusant, fined for ⅓.	4 206	205 39
	November. County Committee not to intermeddle with his estate pending composition. (5 copies.)	61	57 —66
	June 1649? Petition to Thomas, Lord Fairfax, that his estate is so manacled by strict entail that he cannot raise money to pay his composition, yet he is fined at two years' value, the highest of any in the Oxford Articles. The Commissioners, on sight of the Lord President's opinion annexed, referred his case to the House, and they have sent it back to Goldsmiths' Hall. Those Commissioners are not satisfied about the 11th Article of Oxford. Requests his sense whether the articles should not be made good to petitioner.	206	38
	18 June. Opinion of John Bradshaw and letter of Lord Fairfax, that he ought to be allowed to compound on Oxford Articles.	206	41 43
	28 June. Order that, on account of the entail of the estate, his fine be reduced from 728l. 6s. 11d. to 364l. 3s. 4½.,d. which being paid, his bond is to be returned.	6 228	130 63
P.E. 206 21 33 61 23 R. 206 27	5 July. He begs to compound for the reversion, after his mother, Catherine, Lady Abergavenny, of Birling and Ryarsh Manors, Kent, which he conveyed to her for life in 1642. With note of reference to the sub-committee.	206	32 29
	9 July. Fine on Oxford Articles, 166l. 13s. 4d., for ⅓ of his mother's estate, valued at 500l. a year.	6	152
NOTE 8 116	5 June 1650. He begs to be admitted tenant to the unlet ²/3 of his land in cos. Hereford, Worcester, Warwick, Norfolk, and Sussex.	61	39
	14 June. The County Committee to certify what they think of his offer, and what is the improved value of his lands, to be let on a 7 years' lease.	8	145
C. 61 77 R. 61 69	14 June. Reading to consider whether the allowances made to his sisters are by order of Parliament, or by a rent-charge on the estate.	8 61	132 71
	24 October. Order for payment of the said annuities	10	193
	December. Mary and Eliz. Neville complain that on the placing of new County Commissioners in Norfolk and Suffolk, their annuities were ordered to be paid from Suffolk lands only. Beg to be paid as before from the 2 counties, according to Lord Abergavenny's deed, of which a copy is preserved, they having no other means of subsistence but the charity of friends.	61	67
	1 Oct. 1651. Lord Abergavenny petitions that he assigned his estates in Norfolk and Suffolk to his sisters, Mary and Elizabeth, for payment of their annuities of 120l. The committee have appointed a steward to keep courts on the estates, pay the said annuities, and account for the remainder, without direction to pay petitioner his thirds. Thus his records will fall into unknown hands, and his estate be injured. Begs leave to appoint his own steward, who shall be accountable to them, 10 Sept. 1651.	61	55
	1 October. Order that stewards of his lordship and the Commonwealth are to keep joint courts, but his steward is to be approved by the Committee for Compounding.	15	34
	31 Jan. 1652. County Commissioners for Suffolk say that they have received orders to pay the annuity, but do not find the estate of Lord Abergavenny sequestered, nor know whether he has compounded for it.	257	39
	22 September. Petition of Lord Abergavenny. Compounded in 1648 for his estates in Norfolk and Suffolk, which were charged with annuities to his sisters. The commissioners for the counties were ordered to see them paid, whereon those of Norfolk sent their agents to collect moneys, hold courts, &c., and made him an absolute stranger to his estate, not allowing his thirds. Begs redress.	61	53
	22 Sept. 1652. Order that the Norfolk Committee give Lord Abergavenny notice when they keep any courts on his lands, allow him a third of the value of any estates let by them, if he confirms the leases, and certify whether they have assigned him any lands in lieu of his thirds.	17	234
	13 Jan. 1654. He begs to be admitted to contract for the ²/3 of his his estate sequestered, and to have the full benefit of the Oxford Articles, the Lord Protector and Council being resolved to perform articles made with the enemy.	61	45
P.R. 26 12	17 January. He begs to contract also on the Recusants' Act for two-thirds of an estate in Sherborne, which he holds in right of his wife, but had it not at the time of the Oxford surrender.	61	47
C. 61 41 33 352 36 5 CASE 27 34	8 March. He petitions the commissioners for relief upon Articles of War. Was comprised in the Articles of Oxford, by the 11th of which all were to be admitted to compound at 2 years' value, unless specially excepted by Parliament, which he was not; but the late committee, treating him as a Papist in arms, only allowed him to compound for one-third of his estate. Begs leave now to compound for the whole, the profits received meanwhile going towards payment of his fine.	61	51
	8 March. Order that the Committee for Compounding certify whether he has forfeited the benefit of the said Articles.	61	49
	15 March. They order their registrar and auditor to certify, and Reading to report.	25	314
	9 June. Order by the Committee for Relief upon Articles of War, that he ought to be allowed to compound for his whole estate, and have the arrears of profits since he was admitted to composition, his fine being defalcated therefrom.	61	83
P.R. 206 15	24 June. He begs leave to compound on this order for the other ²/3 of his estate.	61 206	37 17
R. 206 7 L. 171 477 61 35 165 179 169 479	6 July. Order that Lord Abergavenny be allowed to compound for the other two-thirds, on fine of 1,162l. 3s. 7d., defalcated from the rent received from the lands since 1 Dec. 1646, and the surplus paid to him. The new commissioners of the counties in which they lie to take notice accordingly. With note that the sums received amount to 2,570l. 0s. 7½d.	12 27 206	618 90 19
L. 145 671 163 161	17 October. On report by the County Committee of Oxon that part of the estate discharged came to the Earl in right of his wife, who was daughter of John and Catherine Chamberlain, and was sequestered for recusancy of the said Catherine, and therefore her name should be in the discharge, the Committee for Compounding order that it be not discharged till the Earl has cleared his title to it.	30	358
	24 October. Order that he prove his title before the County Committee for Oxon.	17 61	145 33
R. 61 31 C. 61 27, 29, 25 R. 27 175 C. 33 576	21 November. Order discharging the estate, as there are no deeds concerning it, and directing the auditor to allow it in the accounts of the County Committee for co. Oxon.	27	166
	7 December. Lord Abergavenny's claim to Sherborne House and other lands, sequestered for recusancy of John Chamberlain, allowed.	27	203
	15 December. Order in the Committee for relief on Articles of War, that as 3,920l. 16s. 5½d. has been received from his estates, and his fine is only 1,062l. 3s. 7d., the balance of 2,858l. 13s. 10½d. ought to be paid to him.	61	21
C.P. 27 225	19 December. The Committee for Compounding object that they cannot repay it, on account of the order of 3 Sept. 1654, transferring their treasury into the Exchequer.	27	211
	2 Jan. 1655. Order to the Goldsmiths' Hall Treasurers to repay it.	27	230
P.E. 188 164 L.C.C. 188 165 R. 188 157	25 Aug. 1646. Wm. Sat begs to compound for ²/3 of several manors in Birling, co. Kent, sequestered for recusancy of Catherine, late Lady Abergavenny, who sold the same to him, together with the other third. Noted, County Committee to certify the value of the lands.	188	161
	24 September. Fine 250l.	3	244
L.C.C. 123 603 604 R.C.C. 11 81 123 587 R. 123 583	16 Aug. 1650. Whetenhall Tilman, of Snodland, Kent, petitions that in 1606, Edward Nevill, Lord Abergavenny, sold him for 120l. an annuity of 20l. on Rotherfield Manor, Sussex, which he received during the life of the said Edward and that of Henry, his son and heir; but it ran in arrears during the troubles, and the manor is now sequestered for delinquency of John, Lord Abergavenny, son and heir of Henry. Petitioned the Committee for Sequestrations and had a report, but that committee being dissolved, begs help. Has always been faithful, is 80 years old, and has no other subsistence.	123 585	581, 589
	9 Oct. 1651. Lord Abergavenny to show cause in 20 days why he should not pay the annuity out of the ⅓ of his estate, which is not sequestered.	15	46 48
	13 November. Lord Abergavenny replying that he can show good cause, Reading is to receive his answer and report.	15	86
	16 June 1652. Tilman pleads that as Lord Abergavenny has not appeared on summons, the annuity should be paid with arrears, and he relieved.	123	579
	16 June. He is left to try his title at law with Lord Abergavenny before his claim can be allowed.	16	552
	2 March 1652. The petition (missing) of THOS. NEVILL, referred to the Committee of Sequestrations of Sussex.	16	64
D. 107 747 749 P.R. 25 312 107 743 R. 107 735 H. 27 49 C. 107 737 –741 L.C.C. 167 105 I. & D. 167, 101 — 103	2 March 1653. Thos. Neville [of Bathwick, co. Somerset], begs allowance of an annuity of 30l. granted him by John, Lord Abergavenny, 19 Nov. 1641, charged on his lands in Sussex, and regularly paid till the war. Being a younger brother, has no other subsistence.	107	811
	14 March 1654. Begs reference of his case for speedy report	107	706 745
	18 May. Both parties are to be examined on oath, Thos. Nevill before the County Committee of Somerset, and Lord Abergavenny before the County Committee of Oxfordshire.	23	1606
	11 April 1654. Josias Packwood, clerk, Martin Whaddock, and Roger Walker, petition that Whaddock and his ancestors have held most of Fillingley Park, co. Warwick, 70 years; but seven years since, Jas. Stonehouse and one of his sisters having a lease thereof from Lord Abergavenny, petitioners contracted with them therefor, at 800l. fine and 10l. a year rent, but they being both dead, ²/3 of the estate is fallen to the State, on account of Lord Abergavenny's recusancy. Begs lease thereof on good security, having spent much in husbandry, and having let part of it to poor men for a subsistence.	143	205

William, Lord Paget.


		Vol. A	No. or p.

	7 Nov. 1644. Upon a message of the House of Lords, he is referred by the House of Commons to the Committee at Goldsmiths' Hall, to compound.	1 2	63 34
	8 November. Appears before them accordingly	2	34
O.P. 1 204 O. 4 196	9 November. Fine of 500l. to be reported by Ash, and on payment there of, he is to be discharged of his 5th and 20th part.	2	35
	28 Nov. 1644. Parliament accepts the fine of 500l. now, and 1,000l. more presently.	228	64
	16 Jan. 1645. His sequestration to be discharged, he having paid or given security to pay the fine, and 1,000l., when the counties where his estate lies are reduced to obedience.	228	65
O.C.C. 228 66	4 Dec. 1650. On complaint through [Nich.] Lechmere, M.P., that though he was fined 1,500l., without being required to produce a particular of his estate, and had an ordinance of both Houses for his discharge, he is yet now required by the County Committee of Bucks to produce his particular; as he has proved that he paid 500l. into the treasury at Goldsmiths' Hall, and 1,000l. to Lady Harcourt, by direction of Parliament, the Committee for Compounding declare him not liable to any review, unless engaged in the latter war.	12 228	54 67
	28 Oct. 1651. John Harry man [sen., of Rugeley, co. Stafford] informs against him for assisting the Earl of Holland in the second war, by giving him arms and money, and sending him two boat loads of pistols, muskets, &c.	109	1101 1103
	21 October. His request for a copy of the charge against him granted.	15	53
	28 October. He is to examine witnesses in his defence, either before the Committee for Compounding or the County Committee, who are to take security of him to answer for what he shall receive out of his estate.	15	62
D. 109 1083 NOTE 30 428 D. 109 1095 1085 C. 109 1097 REC. 82 672 PUB. 16 17	6 November. Harryman to appear before the Committee for Comnote 30 428 pounding.	15	73
	10 December. Lord Paget to have notice to examine him in the country, or show cause why he should be examined here.	15	129
	10 December. Harryman begs to have a protection to come up, and his charges borne by Lord Paget.	109	1093
	3 Feb. 1652. Paget allowed to take examinations on his exceptions against John Harryman, sen., as a witness.	15	235
	12 March. Lord Paget discharged on the Act of Pardon	16	131
	6 Feb. 1656. The Protector and Council, being satisfied that Lord Paget's petition for exemption from the decimation tax is just, write to the several major-generals not to proceed against him or his estate, on the late instructions for preservation of peace.	I76	518

Sir Hen. Anderson, Bart., Pendley, Hertford.


28 Nov. 1644		Vol. A	No. or p.

P.E. 184 519, 521, 512 L. 184 515 506 C. 184 513 R. 184 491 184 501 NOTE 3 344 C. 35 47 99	Informed against as having been in arms for the King	184	509
	29 Nov. 1644. The sequestration of his estate ordered	184	509
	26 Aug. 1645. The County Committees of Bucks, Herts, Essex, London, and Gloucester to certify his estate and delinquency.	2	96
	1 September. He begs to compound, having never acted against Parliament, though he has lived in the King's quarters, where great part of his estate is, and to have a reasonable time for Payment.	184	508 517
	30 July 1646. Fine at ¹/6, 3,170l.	3	186
	4 September. Begs review and abatement, as his fine should have been set at1/10, he coming in before 1 Dec. 1645. His wife solicited on his behalf, because he was ill.	184	503
NOTE 184 504	October? Fine on review reduced to 2,110l., and he is to settle 25l. a year on the minister at Bitterley, co. Salop.	184	492
	4 March 1647. Sequestration suspended on payment of the first ½ of the fine.	228	68
	3 March 1648. Sequestration renewed for non-payment of the balance.	228	69
	14 March. Petitions Parliament against his excessive fine, his lands being charged as in fee, though he is only tenant for life, and no allowance made for his settlement of Bitterley Rectory. The Committee for Compounding refuse redress, because his composition has passed the House.	184	497
	14 March. Order that they make an abatement in his last payment, if the allegations are true.	184	499
O.C. 4 203	3 May. He begs the Committee for Compounding to re-examine the case.	184	496
	3 May. Referred to the sub-committee as to the rectory	4	200
R. 184 393	26 September. His fine reduced to 1,730l., he having had no allowance for settling 20l. a year on Bitterley Rectory, and for Corington Manor, Essex, being valued as an estate in fee, whereas he is tenant by courtesy only.	4 5 228	203 6 70, 71
C. 32 54	20 Feb. 1649. Fine paid, and his bond delivered to him	228	71

[Thos.] Hebblethwaite, late M.P. for New Malton, Co. York.


29 Nov. 1644.		Vol. A	No. or p.

R. 178 53	Order in the House of Commons, on Bond's report from the Committee of Absent Members as to the cause of Hebblethwaite's absence for 2 years, — that he confesses that, on the King's proclamation to go to Oxford, he tendered himself to the Earl of Newcastle to be excused, but paid him 300l.; and on Sir Hugh Cholmeley's importunity, that he might do good service in the country, he assisted the Commission of Array, and did good service as a justice of the peace;—that he be expelled the House, and referred to the Committee at Goldsmiths' Hall to compound.	1 2 228	22 40 72
	23 Dec. 1644. Fine of 500l. approved by the House	1 2	63 41