Henry VIII: March 1517, 11-20 | British History Online

Letters and Papers, Foreign and Domestic, Henry VIII, Volume 2, 1515-1518. Originally published by Her Majesty's Stationery Office, London, 1864.

'Henry VIII: March 1517, 11-20', in Letters and Papers, Foreign and Domestic, Henry VIII, Volume 2, 1515-1518, (London, 1864) pp. 965-973. British History Online https://www.british-history.ac.uk/letters-papers-hen8/vol2/pp965-973 [accessed 20 April 2024]

March 1517



11 March. Er. Ep. VIII. 37.	3003. ERASMUS to AMMONIUS.
	Were all as blind to his faults as Ammonius is, he would be a much happier man. His kindness is greater than any thanks can repay. How can Erasmus return it? Is quite of his opinion touching Sixtinus. Is preparing some things for Basle. Has been offered by the King of France an appointment, with a promise of 1,000 fl., but returned a vague answer. Antwerp, 5 id. Martii.
	Is sorry for the occupations of Ammonius, which prevent him devoting any portion of his time to study. Sees that More, hitherto inflexible, has been carried away by the same storms. 1516.
11 March. R. O.	3004. SIR RICHARD WINGFIELD to WOLSEY.
	Sends an extract from a letter of the King's spy by the accustomed priest. The fellow calls upon him incessantly for money. Has sent him ten crowns. Wishes to know what he is to do with him henceforth, as he has hitherto fed him with fair words. Calais, 11 March. Signed.
	P. 1. Add.: My Lord Cardinal of Y[or]c, Chancellor of England.
11 March. R. O.	3005. The EARL OF WORCESTER to WOLSEY.
	Has received his letter dated Westminster, the 5th inst., containing a clause of a letter from Sir Robert Wingfield of which Worcester has spoken to him, "to know what he meant by his obscure words, which he doth interpret to have meant by such as be not the King's subjects, and neither by me, nor by the Master of the Rolls, but such as have the stroke on this side the sea." Has had no unpleasant words with the Master of the Rolls, but they have kept their thoughts to themselves. Will obey the King's pleasure touching the Dean of Tournay. Brussels, 11 March. Signed.
	P. 1. Add.: My Lord Cardinal of York. Endd.: My Lord Chamberlain.
11 March. R. O.	3006. The DEAN OF TOURNAY.
	"Copie de la premiere lettre escripte au Doyen de Tournay."
	In answer to his letter relative to what the Dean has communicated, is willing to set himself thereto, and so is the person he knows of. Desires to be informed in what manner it may be accomplished, and what other honors and securities are to be given to the parties. Brussels, 11 March.
	P.S.—Begs credence for the bearer, Norroy king-of-arms.
	Fr. p. 1.
	ii. "Copie de la derniere lettre escripte audit Doyen."
	Thanks him for his letter, and that which was sent from the Grand Master. Makes no answer at present, not perceiving the effect of the matter mentioned in his own of the 11th. Will inform the person he knows of what the Dean has written, and on hearing from him will send news to the Dean. Brussels, 17 March.
	Fr., p. 1.
Calig. D. VI. 329. B. M.	3007. LEWIS DUKE OF ORLEANS to the DEAN OF TOURNAY.
	Has received his letters. There seems to be some chance of an accommodation in the matter of which he spoke to him lately at Paris, which the writer considers would be the best for all parties, and would lead to a more perfect amity than has hitherto been compassed. The Dean will not fail "d'en tenir propoz" to the personage who has written to him; and if the writer can be assured that the matter will be carried on without dissimulation, they will find good faith in their correspondence, and such as ought to content them; but if what has been written to the Dean is for another purpose, and only to sound the wishes of the writer's master, and hold out expectations which are never to be gratified (?), he will have the goodness to say so; because the writer has entered upon this matter honestly and frankly. He will reply more openly, and shall be better able ... when he sees who is with his said master. Signed.
	Fr., pp. 2, badly mutilated. Add.: A Mons. le Doyen de Tournay.
	* The purport of this document is very difficult to discover, owing to the mutilation and vagueness.
11 March. Calig. D. VI. 279. B. M.	3008. TREATY of CAMBRAY.
	Notarial copy of the treaty of Cambray, made between the Emperor Maximilian, Charles of Spain and Francis I., 11 March 1516.
	Fr., pp. 4, mutilated.
12 March. Galba, B. V. 121. B. M.	3009. The EARL OF WORCESTER and TUNSTAL to [WOLSEY].
	Have received his letter dated Westminster, 5 March, instructing them to persist in the answer which by their letters of the 26 Feb. they reported they had made to the Emperor's overture. The subject has not been touched upon again. If it be again mooted now at the return of Chievres and the Chancellor from Cambray, they will know how to act. Perceive clearly that the Emperor will have no communication with them about the meeting, till the confirmation be passed, as they have often written. Brussels, 12 March. Signed.
	Pp.2, mutilated.
13 March. R. O.	3010. BETON to WOLSEY.
	Has received, by Clarencieux, Wolsey's hearty and good writing, dated Westm., 10 Feb., showing his constant mind for peace. Will promote the same object himself at all times. Has done his best to advance Clarencieux's cause, as Wolsey will understand by the writing which he takes with him. If he have not altogether attained his object, "it is not fer by be sentence and substance." Edinburgh, 13 March. Signed.
	P. 1. Add.: To my good lord my Lord Cardinal of York, Chancellor of England. Endd.
14 March. Galba, B. V. 136. B. M.	3011. C. DE CREQUY to WORCESTER.
	Was very glad to receive yesterday his letters by the bearer, as he had prepared one to send to him. "Et pour respondre a vos lettres vous desires sçavoir quel effec et que lon vodroit faire en la matiere dont vous ay escript. Mons., se jeusse sceut ou de vostre coste eussies vollu venir, je meusse informe de lautre coste de son intention; mais il me samble que se larticle secont cotte il se ... praqtyquier lon pairoit cent mille escus dor pour les mises que on y a fait, et se ledit article estoit trop dyficille, comme aultrefois maves escript, je mettroie paine que le troisieme se feroit cotte que environ comme il gist ou se aves aultre moient vous me le porres faire sçavoir ... ce porteur le vous dira." Tournay, 14 March.
	Fr., p. 1; badly written, and the writing much faded. Add.: A Monsigneur ... Conte de Worcestre.
14 March.	3012. For EDW. CALETT, clk.
	Presentation to the church of Gosforth. Addressed to Th. Dalby, Archdeacon of Richmond. Westm., 14 March.
	Pat. 8 Hen. VIII. p. 1, m. 25.
15 March. S. B.	3013. For DAVID CECILE, serjeant-at-arms, and RIC. CECILE, page of the Chamber.
	To be keepers of Clyf Park, Northt., in survivorship. Del. Westm., 15 March 8 Hen. VIII.
	Pat. 8 Hen. VIII. p. 2, m. 17.
15 March.	3014. JOHN BEAUPHO.
	Commission to the Mayor of Coventry, Ralph. Swylyngton, recorder, John Bonde and Th. Rowley to make inquisition as to the possessions and heir of John Beaupho. Westm., 15 March.
	Pat. 8 Hen. VIII. p. 1, m. 10d.
16 March. Galba, B. V. 126. B. M.	3015. SPINELLY to HENRY VIII.
	Sunday last Chievres, the Chancellor and Felinger returned from Cambray, and on Monday went to the Emperor at Alost. The Pope's solicitors and Quintana had told him that the result of the meeting has been kept a profound secret. The report is that nothing has been perfectly concluded, and the resolution for the meeting is prorogued. The Audiencer showed him many good articles in the treaty, none prejudicial to England. He expects a final answer from France within ten days. The meeting will not take place before Easter. Chievres and the Chancellor expressed their determination that the King their master should not "make the compromise in his majesty concerning the two words in the treaty between his grace and the said King." They will conclude it without them, showing in what little estimation they hold the Emperor. Felinger and others about him make believe it is done for the best, but it touches the honor of the Emperor, who has now great occasion of offence against Chievres and the Chancellor. Quintana has leave to go home for four months. The men of Utrecht have consented to receive the Lord Admiral for their Bishop. Chievres' nephew is to be his coadjutor. By letters dated from Rome, the 9th, the Cardinal St. Peter ad Vincula was dead the same morning; the vice-chancellery was given to the Cardinal de Medici, with an abbey in the Duchy of Milan worth 6,000 ducats. The business of Urbin is favorable to the Pope. Cardinal Gurk is wholly inclined to Chievres and the Chancellor. Brussels, 16 March 1516.
	Hol., part cipher, deciphered by Tuke; pp. 4, mutilated. Add.
16 March. P. S.	3016. For WM. FAIRFAX and ISABELLA his wife.
	Livery of lands, the said Isabella being sister and h. of John Thwaitys, jun., son and h. of Thomas, son and h. of John. Greenwich, 12 March 8 Hen. VIII. Del. Westm., 16 March.
	Pat. 8 Hen. VIII. p. 2, m. 21.
16 March.	3017. COMMISSION OF SEWERS.
	Northumberland and Newcastle-on-Tyne.—John Lord Lumley, Sir Wm. Bulmer, Sir Wm. Evers, mayor of Newcastle, Th. Tempest, John Brandlyng, Christ. Brygham, Rob. Baxter, John Blaxton, Christ. Mitford, John Bentley and Th. Horseley, for the district of the Tyne, extending from a place called "Hidwynscremes" to the sea. Westm., 16 March.
	Pat. 8 Hen. VIII. p. 1, m. 12d.
17 March. R. O.	3018. SUFFOLK to WOLSEY.
	Met the Queen his mistress, on Friday last, at Pykenham Wade, and conducted her to Walsyngham. The French Queen also met her, and made her good cheer. Yesterday, Monday, 16 March, before her arrival, Mrs. Jerningham came to the French Queen, took her daughter-in-law aside, and privately insured young Berkely unto the Lady Ann Greye, one of the Queen my wife's ladies, much to Suffolk's displeasure, as Berkely is the King's ward. Would rather have lost 1,000l. than this should have been done in his house. Begs Wolsey will state the truth if this be reported to his prejudice. Rysing, 17 March. Signed.
	P. 1. Add.: My Lord Cardinal.
R. MS. 13 B. II. 272. B. M. Ep. Reg. S. I. 262. Adv. MS. 449.	3019. ALBANY to HENRY VIII.
	As Henry has just made a truce with the King of Scots until next St. Andrew's Day, it seems strange for him to detain the letters relating to it. Sends accordingly his secretary, who will show him that they intend to keep the truce. They have granted all that he demanded in the name of his sister, the Queen of Scots, and never had any other intention than to honor her. Writes also to Wolsey. Desires a speedy answer.
	Lat.
R. MS. 13 B. II. 273. B. M. Ep. Reg. Sc.I. 264. Adv. MS. 450.	3020. ALBANY to WOLSEY.
	Since several messengers have been to and fro between the two kingdoms to treat for peace, and both Henry and Wolsey seem desirous of it, if the French be comprehended, is surprised that the original letters were not sent to Scotland when Clarencieux came with the truce ratified by the Great Seal. Sends his secretary to explain matters. Encloses a copy of the concessions made in the Queen's favor to Clarencieux. Edinburgh, 1516.
	Lat.
17 March. R. O.	3021. CLARENCIEUX to WOLSEY.
	Has shown the substance of his instructions to Albany and the Council. They wished him to deliver the King's letters of prorogation under the Great Seal, and to receive the like from them, but would not "have any word specified of the letters of recess within the letters of provision for the Queen of Scots." They delivered him a letter after their minds on that subject, which he encloses. Protested, in the presence of the Duke and divers of the estates, that if they would not pass the letter of provision word for word as in the minute, he would make no delivery of the book of prorogation or safeconducts. The Duke was much displeased, and said the conventions had been already concluded and passed under the Great Seal, and it was dishonorable not to deliver the confirmation of them; that he and all the Council of Scotland had devised the provision for the Queen in such wise as they hoped would have satisfied Henry. He swore many great oaths that her grace would be heartily welcome in Scotland, and that they would all do her as great honor as to their King; that if she came, and the Duke were in Scotland, he and all the nobles would go to meet her; that she would be allowed twenty-four English men and women to accompany her, and that if she wanted more they would provide as should be thought reasonable. Albany says he still continues desirous of seeing the King, and that nothing would grieve him more than that the project should fail. The Scots and Frenchmen in Edinburgh say plainly that the Emperor and the French King were to meet at this time at Cambray, and that there will be great triumph and alliance made between them and the young King of Castile. Finds both Scotch and Frenchmen are more highminded than they were before.
	Wolsey will see by the letters of Dacre and Magnus that they have detained him here till they know the King's further pleasure. Has the King's patent of prorogation and the two safeconducts. Carlisle, 17 March.
	P.S.—Encloses letter from the Chancellor of Scotland.
	Hol., pp. 2. Add.
17 March. P. S.	3022. For EDWARD DUKE OF BUCKINGHAM.
	Licence to impark 500 acres of land in Thournebury, Glouc. Greenwich, 12 March 8 Hen. VIII. Del. Westm., 17 March.
	Pat. 8 Hen. VIII. p. 2, m. 16.
17 March. P. S.	3023. For RIC. RESTWOLD.
	Wardship of Th. s. and h. of Th. and Marg. Ramsey. Greenwich, 13 March 8 Hen. VIII. Del. Westm., 17 March.
17 March. P. S.	3024. For JOHN PORTH.
	To be clerk of the exchange in the Tower of London, in same manner as John Blakeney, John Sandes and Th. Wylde. Greenwich, 12 March 8 Hen. VIII. Del. Westm., 17 March.
	Pat. 8 Hen. VIII. p. 2, m. 17.
17 March. S. B.	3025. For JAS. WORSLEY, yeoman of the Wardrobe of Robes.
	Grant, in tail male, of the manor of Tirant Launceston, Dors., lately held by Sir Sampson Norton, deceased. Del. Westm., 17 March 8 Hen. VIII.
	Pat. 8 Hen. VIII. p. 2, m. 12.
17 March. S. B.	3026. For WM. BROUN, sen., of London, merchant of the Staple of Calais.
	Pardon and release; with proviso that this pardon shall not extend to an obligation of 1,200l. made by Broun, Ric. Fermour, grocer, and Th. Heynde, mercer, and another of 500 marks, made by Broun, Fermour and Geo. Medley, to Th. Lovell and John Heron. Del. Westm., 17 March 8 Hen. VIII.
	Pat. 8 Hen. VIII. p. 1, m. 28.
17 March. S. B.	3027. For JOHN BAPTISTE [MOROVELL].
	Licence to retain the customs on his imports and exports, to the amount of 500l., for four years. Del. Westm., 17 March 8 Hen. VIII.
	Fr. 8 Hen. VIII. ms. 6 and 7.
18 March. Calig. B. I. 9. B. M.	3028. DACRE and MAGNUS to WOLSEY.
	According to the King's letter from Greenwich, 8 Feb., delivered them by Clarencieux on his way to Scotland to consult with Albany, have made sundry prorogations of peace, at the request of the King of Scots, "bearing date and effect till the 16th day of this instant month of March." Enclose four letters thus received, and one from Clarencieux stating that the Lords of Scotland will not consent to the article touching the Queen's dower, according to the late recess at London, and have altered the French minute devised by the King's highness touching the same, and her passing and repassing into Scotland. Enclose a copy of the same. Albany and the Council are greatly exalted by news received out of France of the amity betwixt the Emperor, the French King, and the young King of Castile. This makes them more impracticable. Dacre has accordingly sent a letter to Clarencieux, another to Albany, a third to Sir William Scot, devised with the utmost circumspection to induce them to listen to Clarencieux's proposals; all which they refuse, saying they will stick to such conclusions that be determined between your grace and the Duke, or else hold to the comprehension of France. Send copies of the correspondence.
	Have received letters from the Abbot of Dryburgh and Sir William Scot, the Scotch commissioners, that they are willing to accept reasonable terms, if Dacre and Magnus can find any better. Accordingly have replied, and prorogued the peace till 20 April, as appears by the letter enclosed, to give time to his grace for further deliberation. Thinks it would be unreasonable to break with the Scots at this time of year, who would be perfectly ready by the middle of May, and they not before Midsummer. Propose that the Scotch terms should be received with certain modifications, which they think would be adopted, and thus prolong the time till winter, when they can do the Scotch great harm, and destroy great part of the border. The Queen would not lose much in the interval. Clarencieux has arrived. Propose that Magnus should leave for London. Carlisle, 18 March. Signed.
	Pp. 3. Add.: Unto my Lord Cardinal's grace.
18 March. R.O.	3029. SIEUR DE PEYNIER OGIERDURANT to HENRY VIII.
	The present bearer, the canon, has been the King's loyal servant for six months. He will do everything which the writer has told him. Sends with him a servant to bring back the King's answer. Paris, 18 March 1516.
	Hol., p. 1. Add.
19 March. Giust. Desp. II.42.	3030. SEB. GIUSTINIAN to the DOGE.
	Met the Cardinal on the affair of the wines of Candia. Details the conversation. Said he must consult the merchants. Wolsey asked him what news of Cambray. Sebastian said he was not aware they had met. "He said to me, laughing, 'By God, they will plot to your detriment;'" and was then silent. Then told Sebastian of a conversation between the Emperor and the King of France, in which the latter consented to abandon Venice. Sebastian pointed out to him the improbability of the story, and that it must have come from a bad source. Has been told that 100,000 crowns had been lately sent hence to the Emperor. London, 19 March 1517.
20 March. R.T. 144.	3031. HENRY VIII. to [the TOWN OF TOURNAY].
	Thanks them for their goodwill and loyalty expressed in the letters received from their deputies, the bearers, who will show them the favor in which he holds them. In reply to their charge has sent a written answer to every article. Greenwich, 20 March 1516.
20 March. Galba, B. v. 131. B.M.	3032. SPINELLY to [HENRY VIII.]
	Wrote last on the 16th, but my Lord Chamberlain delayed the post to inform the King of the news since the return of Chievres and the Chancellor on the 17th from the Emperor, who has agreed to ratify the treaty, "leaving the two words, and also the compromission in the Emperor." Berghes thinks the treaty of Noyon favorable to England. It proposes that Charles shall recover all Friesland from the Duke of Gueldres, who is to receive 100,000 florins compensation; the matter of Navarre will be compromised between the Emperor and the French King. "These," he said, "be two evil points," and desired Spinelly to keep them secret, believing that the French King "will omnino deceive this King." Brussels, 20 March 1516.
	Hol., pp. 2, part cipher, deciphered by Tuke.
20 March. Galba, B.v. 128. B.M.	3033. SION to SIR ROBERT WINGFIELD.
	Has spoken to the Emperor, but not yet had an answer. Understands, however, that a treaty has really been signed at Cambray by the Emperor, the French King and the King Catholic, leaving a place for the Pope, another for the Swiss, and another for the King of England, and setting aside the Venetians. The Catholic King will give his oath to the treaty with England, the words "proventus et emolumenta" being left out. Sees no indication that he will agree to the Emperor's arbitration, but some other provision will be proposed for securing the King of England's pension from France. Cannot discover on what shores, or with what favorable winds, the long desired interview is likely to take effect. This is purposely kept in the dark. When at Brussels, heard rumors that the French King was going to besiege Tournay, and replace the Bishop; that the Swiss captains brought to him by ... (per Vicecomit[em] ... calvum) persuaded him to hire 6,000 of them in place of the discharged lanceknights, besides which he was going to have as many adventures.
	Since coming here, learned that Bontemps, treasurer of Burgundy, notifying to the Emperor the death of the Abp. of Besançon, who was Lord Verges' son, and desiring the see for his brother, the Prothonotary of Burgundy, warned him that 4,000 Germans had collected in Burgundy, either in aid of Francis de Sickengen, who is carrying on war with the Emperor at Worms, or for an expedition against Tournay, or to join the Duke of Gueldres in order to prevent the King Catholic's going into Spain. Hears also that though 4,000 Germans were discharged from the French service, they had been induced to go into Picardy, where they would again be taken into pay, and that part had already crossed the Seine. At Liege 4,000 Germans are expected, and some French horse. News having come that the army of Francis de Ruera, formerly Duke of Urbino, in Italy, has been lost for want of pay, Sion told the Emperor he had heard the contrary, viz., that their wages had been paid on the 3rd, which the Emperor would hardly believe. A knight has come in six days from the Duke of Nazareth (Najara ?) in Spain, bringing word that Frenchmen, under the guise of pilgrims to St. James, were intriguing with the lords and people of that country, and buying up all the horses. Termont, 20 March 1517.
	P.S. in Sion's own hand.—The Spanish knight also says he has discovered that the French King will keep no promises, but do all in his power to prevent the King Catholic's going into Spain; perhaps also invade England. Signed.
	Lat., pp. 3, mutilated. Add.
20 March. R.O.	3034. WILLIAM COPLEY.
	Indenture, 20 March 8 Hen. VIII., whereby he sells the wardship and marriage of Elizabeth and Anne, his daughters and heirs, to Thomas Lord Darcy and Sir Richard Tempest. If he have further issue by his wife Dorethy, "which shall be her heirs," Darcy and Tempest shall be their guardians, and shall, on the death of Copley and his wife, have custody of their lands. Signed: T. Darcy—Wyllm. Coplay.
	Draft; in form of a roll.
20 March.	3035. For ROB. CHESEMAN.
	Pardon and release, as s. and h. of Edw. Cheseman; and to Wm. Bonde and Th. Roberts, as executors of the said Edward, who was cofferer and keeper of the Wardrobe of the Household to Hen. VII. Greenwich, 12 March 8 Hen. VIII. Del. Westm., 20 March.
	Pat. 8 Hen. VIII. p. 2, m. 12.
20 March. P.S.	3036. For JOHN LEWES, yeoman of the Crown.
	To be bailiff of the towns of Mochebilling and Overstone, Northt., vice Rob. Bollington. Windsor Castle, 10 Nov. 8 Hen. VIII. Del. Westm., 20 March.
20 March. P.S.	3037. For WM. STAVERTON, of London, grocer, alias taverner.
	Protection; going in the retinue of Sir Ric. Wyngfield, Deputy of Calais. Greenwich, 14 March 8 Hen. VIII. Del. Westm., 20 March.
	Fr. 8 Hen. VIII. m. 7.
20 March.	3038. COMMISSION OF SEWERS.
	Norfolk.—Nich. Bp. of Ely, John Abbot of Peterborough, Rob. Abbot of Thorney, John Prior of Ely, Sir John Cutte, John Colvyld, John Fyncham, Hen. Harston, Geoff. Pavell and Th. Wythe, for the district extending along the borders of the marshes called Marsheland. Westm., 20 March.
	Pat. 8 Hen. VIII. p. 1, m.12d.