Henry VIII: September 1545, 1-5

Letters and Papers, Foreign and Domestic, Henry VIII, Volume 20 Part 2, August-December 1545. Originally published by His Majesty's Stationery Office, London, 1907.

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'Henry VIII: September 1545, 1-5', in Letters and Papers, Foreign and Domestic, Henry VIII, Volume 20 Part 2, August-December 1545, (London, 1907) pp. 121-142. British History Online https://www.british-history.ac.uk/letters-papers-hen8/vol20/no2/pp121-142 [accessed 24 April 2024]

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September 1545, 1-5

1 Sept. 267. The Privy Council.
Dasent's
A. P. C, 238
Meeting at Oteland, 1 Sept. Present: Essex, Winchester, Gage, Browne, Wingfield, Paget, Petre. Business: Thomas Yemans, of Bekeley, Oxon, roving about the country, and at last sent to the Council and committed to the Porter's ward, seeming to be a foolish prophet and to talk of the Scripture, letters were written to Sir Wm. Barendyne and Sir John Browne to learn of his father, Thos. Gifford of Twyford and Ryve (with whom he had dwelt) what was his conversation and with whom he used to confer. Vincent Mondye, appointed to order the King's victuals arriving at Calais, despatched with letters to the Deputy and Council and with written instructions.
1 Sept. 268. Wriothesley to Paget.
R. O. I have spoken with Mr. Cofferer and those of the Mint touching new crowns for Ireland; and they answer that it would be some let to them in this busy time to frame the new standard, and specially of gold, of which little has come to their hands this month, apparently "because the proportion for the King's Majesty is such as they cannot have the speedy return they desire." For the present help of that matter without overmuch let of the English money, we have resolved that the proportion appointed shall not be so great as was determined; trusting within little more than a sevennight to advertise the King of some convenient despatch of that matter. If you would meanwhile rid the bishop and his fellow (fn. n1) of the Isles from "thence," as you wrote, you should do well, for they cry daily upon me for their expedition. The money might follow after them "for the realm, and partly for that exploit, if it should be so thought meet." Mr. Southwell shall have full 15,000l. for Bulloyn, and James Joskyn is appointed to go to Guisnez with 10,000l.; which shall be rid this week, and also l,000l. to Rither, to help for victuals, and another 1,000l. "to relieve poor men, being behind, for munition, to keep them in occupation." I send letters and declarations. Ely Place, 1 Sept.
P.S.—"Mr. Chancellor of the Augmentation hath one dead out of his house at Oxton (where he lay but two days before) of the sickness, and Mr. Williamz hath another dead of the same out of his house, and within these two days two or three be dead even at my gate." If any chance should happen, I know not where to go or bestow my household, and would be glad if the King would lend me Haqueney or some other house. "I trust his Highness will one day remember me with some cast house or other thing towards my living." Ely Place, ut supra.
Hol., pp. 2. Add. Endd.: 1545.
1 Sept. 269. Bernardo Navagero, Venetian Ambassador with the Emperor, to the Council of Ten.
Venetian
Calendar
(Brown),
v., No. 356.
Lodovico da l'Armi arrived here in post yesterday and came by night to the writer, to whom he related fully how he had offended the Council in fighting with their officers and causing his followers to inflict a scar on the son of Count Mercurio Bua, and then escape over the walls of Treviso. He added that he had written to the English ambassador at Venice to get his appearance postponed to 10 Sept., but fresh commands from his King now compelled him to go to England, where, if he found the King offended because of the wrong done to him, he would do his best to promote a good understanding and not make mischief. The writer answered that the acts mentioned were most grave offences, and the Doge could never believe but that the King would approve the course taken by the Republic. Da l'Armi replied that in the first matter the officers were mistaken for enemies, of whom he had many, and he retreated as soon as he recognised them; and as for the second offence, a person who, after taking money to serve a King, failed to come, deserved even greater punishment, as the Doge, who was himself a sovereign, would admit.
Da l'Armi is accompaned by a gentleman of the Tresseno family, who has a brother here in the service of Signor Sforza Palavicino. Brussels, 1 Sept. 1545.
2 Sept. 270. The Privy Council
Dasent's
A. P. C., 239.
Meeting at Oteland, 2 Sept. Present: Norfolk, Essex, Winchester, Gage, Browne, Wingfield, Paget, Petre. Business:—Sir Richard Southwell, addressed to Boulogne with the treasure and to commune with those there touching receipts, payments, victuals, etc., wherein had been remissness, having with him an auditor, had letters to the earl of Surrey and the Council, a "memorial for his proceedings," and letters to Sir Thos. Clere to waft him to Boulogne and Jas. Joskyne with treasure to Guisnes. Mr. Stannop signifying decay of the "walls on the waterside" (fn. n2) had letters to bestow 40l. in repairs. The Duke of Lowemberge's chancellor had passport to return home.
2 Sept. 271. Provisions for Calais.
Soc. of
Antiq. Procl.,
ii. 155.
Mandate to the mayor and sheriffs of London to make proclamation that, whereas the King intends to furnish an army royal both of Englishmen and strangers to levy the siege of Bulline and do other exploits against his enemies, for which purpose preparation of victuals is necessary, all his subjects may ship to the port of Callice "wheat, malt, rye, oats, beans, peas, beefs, muttons, bacon, bread, beer, butter, cheese," and other victuals, and also wood, coal, hay and straw. Westm., 2 Sept. 37 Hen. VIII.
Modern copy, p. 1.
2 Sept. 272. Wriothesley to Paget.
R. O. Where I wrote for Mr. Palmer's clerk to bring his books of account, he is come himself without his books. A "certain view he hath made, which is nothing to the purpose"; but I send it, together with a note of the prests to the Lightmakers and Sir Edward Wotton's letters, to be answered as you think meet, especially for Lodovico de Larme. I have despatched Thomas Gresham with the letters received from you, and mine to Mr. Vaughan. He has instructions from Sir Richard and Sir John Gresham. I have drawn the proclamation for the opening of the ports, (fn. n3) binding such as shall transport to give bond to the customers to carry only to Calays and to bring back certificate from two of the Council there. I will send them forth as soon as they can be written. I thanked the Bonvix and John Girald for the exchange. Salvage was not at home. As to the credit, the Bonvix has answer "that his house will not bind them"; but he will bind himself. The others have no answer yet, but offer to bind themselves. I spoke with the sheriff of Essex touching the going over of Salablanka and the Spaniards, with the day of payment and the rate; and he promised to bring it tomorrow morning. He said that Salablanka had 12 men more than he received for, who came immediately after his arrival, and that he also alleges lack of dead pays. "I told him he should have that he could reasonably ask." His month begins on Friday and, as now paid, amounts to 246l.
Sends herewith the indenture for the coin for Ireland, to be signed before "they" (fn. n4) begin. It is a matter that may not be forgotten. Sends also the minute of the commission for letting farms in Ireland, "wherein they find a doubt for lack of these words "tithes, oblations and alterages,' with a new bill to be signed for that purpose."
"Finally, I shall desire you and the rest of my lords "to remind the King touching Parliament; for, if it be prorogued or adjourned, the writs must have a good time for their despatch. "In case of prorogation I see not how we shall live without some present help." Your pardons are made and sealed, but my clerk who has them is out of town. Ely Place, 2 Sept.
Hol., pp. 2. Add. Endd.: 1545.
2 Sept. 273. Henry Gee.
Harl. MS.
2067., f. 84b.
B. M.
Will of Henry Gee, alderman of Chester, 2 Sept. 1545.
Copy, pp. 2.
2 Sept. 274. John Dymock to the Commissaries.
R. O. Received their letter of 23 Aug. on 29 Aug. at 8 p.m., and sent an answer by the "bode" who brought it; but, not being sure of his reaching them in time, sends another to signify that, as to bringing the 2,000 men to Covelence on the Ryne, the writer's commission was only to send Peter van Gelders' men by ship into England, and afterwards Secretary Pagett wrote that they should be sent to Calys by water, if they were here ready according to Peter van Gelders' covenant. They were gone, however, before he reached Breame, as he has certified the Council. Even if he had 2,000 men ready, the way from hence to Covelence is 59 leagues, and from Breame 67 leagues, through many lordships, and the men would be slain because of the ill usage of the country by Peter van Gelders' men, who paid for nothing and "made many poor men which shall not recover it this xx. year," insomuch that the writer was twice stopped and, if he had not "wrought wisely," would have remained in prison or cost the King 18,000 gr. for his release. Is informed that Frederic van Ryffenberghe will not be able to accomplish his promise to the King. Will now tarry here and at Breame these seven or eight days, expecting letters out of England, for the Duke of Lowenberghe's chancellor departed hence with Tapehoren on 1 Aug. and cannot fail to be back in two or three days. You three will be sufficient for the mustering of those men at Covelence. A great company of men of war are together within seven leagues of Hamborow in the land of Hadell, which belongs to the Duke of Lowenberge, but have not declared who is their lord. Their colonels' names are Harbort van Lange, of the footmen, and Crystoffel Frysberech, of the horsemen. Holste is in fear and the King, of Denemarke taking up men, lest these men be to bring Palesgra[ve] Fredericke into Denemarke. Others reckon that they are to set the Duke of Brwyneswicke into his land again. They have little money and "lye and eatte apon the boures, wch ys called here gardynge, so that they do mak much pour peopoull." Their number is 20 ensigns of footmen and 900 horsemen, and yesterday they sent to the lords of Hamborow not to aid the Adelers, their enemies, whom they will kill and destroy without mercy. But the Hadelers have made themselves stronger, and have 2,000 footmen and 600 horsemen ready to resist them. Spoke today with Courte Penynk, an old captain now taking up men for the king of Denmark; he has a spy among them, and knows that they have no money, and cannot keep together above 10 or 12 days longer; and then, if need were, he could, within five days, get 15,000 or 16,000 footmen and 2,000 horsemen, who might go to Calyz as soon as to Covelence.
If you send me letters, direct them to Vassemer Vassemer's house at Hamborow, or else at Breame to Diricke Scryver's house. I have paid the bearer to go and come, 11 dallers, and he must be with you on 8 or 9 Sept. Thanks for your good news, which has made me and many here glad; for nowhere is the King so well beloved as here. The King of Denemarke and his nobility are also well minded towards us. You, Mr. Van, had a dangerous commission last year, and I have had one at this time and would not have such another for 5000l. st. I have been fain to ride with 40, 30 or 20 horsemen at the least, and at this present hour the lords of Hamborow warn me that there is wait laid for me in divers places, for which I may thank Peter of Gelders' good behaviour. Where I write that the bringer must be with you the 7th or 8th (sic) day of this month, I mean the eighth day after the writing of this letter. Hamborow, 2 Sept. 1545.
"Geve I cowde gotten the brynger here of before thys I wolde have sent hym thre dayes rather."
Hol., pp. 5. Add.: To the ricghet worshipfful Syr Raffe Vane, knyght, Mr. Thomas Chamberlayne and M. Thomas Averye, comyssaryes for the K's Ma'e in Dowesheland, at Covelance. Sealed. Endd.
2 Sept. 275. Parliament of Scotland.
Acts of the
P. of Sc.,
ii., 451.
Held at Edinburgh, 2 Sept. 1545, by Sir Adam Ottirburn of Reidhall, Mr. Jas. Foulis of Colintoun, clerk of register, Mr. Thos. Ballenden of Auchnowle, clerk of Justiciary, Mr. John Thornton, chancellor of Moray, Mr. Hen. Lauder, advocate, and Simon Preston, provost of Edinburgh, commissioners; together with Patrick Baron, deputy constable, Robt. Blak, appointed deputy marshal, George Fothringam, sergeant, and Wm. Stele, appointed judicator. Business:—Summonses of treason against Wm. Murray of Tulibardin, Thomas Bischop of Uchiltre, Robert Stewart elect of Caithness and brother germane to Matthew earl of Lennox, Math, earl of Lennox, lord Dernlie, &c, proved to have been duly proclaimed, and continued to 28 Sept.
2 Sept. 276. Charles V. to Scepperus and Van der Delft.
Spanish
Calendar,
viii., No. 131
Deferred answering their letter to the Queen of the 21st ult., awaiting news from the Sieur de Noirthoudt, copies of whose letter and "the Emperor's reply go herewith. They shall tell the King with what pleasure the Emperor and the Queen learn his inclination to peace, and that the King of France having now made the first advance, the Emperor prays him to state his views. They shall discover whether he would restore Boulogne for a money indemnity, and if so for how much. If he objects, they shall suggest that Boulogne might remain in his hands for a fixed period and then be restored for a money indemnity, being careful to give him no-excuse for saying that the Emperor advised this; but if the King or his Council make this suggestion, Scepperus and Van der Delft shall agree to convey it to the Emperor. Similarly they shall ascertain whether Scotland can be included in the negotiations, and what is the real point at issue between the King and the Scots; as the Emperor greatly doubts if the King of France will consent to abandon the Scots. If the King objects to these points as too general, he shall be reminded that it will be hard to induce the King of France to be more precise unless the Emperor can show him some inclination towards an overture on the part of England. After ascertaining whether there is any hope of a successful issue, they shall learn whether the King would consent to a conference of delegates in the Emperor's dominions or elsewhere, to which the Emperor would willingly send representatives as friendly mediators. Brussels, 2 Sept. 1545.
2 Sept. 277. Charles V. to St. Mauris and Noirthoudt.
Granvelle
Papiers
d'Etat, iii.
184.
Has seen what they wrote jointly to his sister of their moving the Most Christian king to peace with England and his good answer. Sends copy of what the ambassador in England and Sieur Decke have written to his sister of their negociation with the King of England, and also copy of letters which he (Charles) writes to them. They shall inform the King that the Emperor and Queen rejoiced to learn his good inclination to peace, and the Emperor has at once despatched to the Sieur Decke to inform the King of England of the three points put forward by the Most Christian king, and as far as possible learn his intention therein. Doubting that the King of England will not readily listen to the said overtures, especially while uncertain of the recompense which he should have for Boulogne (for which he says 100,000 cr. has been already offered, and he does not esteem it reasonable), would have them scent out what recompense would be given, supposing that the King of England were willing to listen, which is yet quite uncertain. Also because the Most Christian King wishes to comprehend the Scots, and the King of England will probably make difficulty therein unless he know the conditions, and that the disputes between England and Scotland might be appeased, they must scent out the King's intention thereupon; as also upon the payment of the arrears of the pension, which he says that he is content to pay. It would be well to learn whether the King would not approve of a meeting of ambassadors of both princes, either before the Emperor or elsewhere, to which the Emperor would willingly send deputies to act as friendly mediators in case of disagreement. This seems the shortest way to peace. Bruxelles, 2 Sept. 1545.
French.
3 Sept. 278. The Privy Council
Dasent's
A.P.C., 239.
Meeting at Oteland, 3 Sept. Present: Norfolk, Essex, Winchester, Gage, Browne, Wingfield, Paget, Petre. Business:—Men of Molsey and other towns in the chace of Hampton Court, complaining of losses by the deer, referred to Sir Nic. Hare.
3 Sept. 279. Henry, Earl of Surrey.
Lieutenant of Boulogne. See Grants in September, No. 8.
3 Sept. 280. Wriothesley to Paget.
R. O. Sends letters from the Lord Warden—one of them to the writer, who desires to know the King's pleasure how to answer. Thinks he may hardly "remove" until next month, as a man of estimation should be there during the heat of these matters. Has received, from Paget, Mr. Southwell's despatch; and will draw the commission this morning and despatch him to-morrow. Has likewise received the despatch of the chancellor of Lowemburge. Wishes his thanks presented to the King for the loan of Haqueney and for the venison. Ely Place, 3 Sept.
P. s.—Sent Paget's letters to the Secretary of Venice.
Hol., p.1. Add. Endd.: 1545.
3 Sept. 281. Lisle to Henry VIII.
R. O.
St. P., i. 829.
On the 2nd inst. the army, numbering 6,000 or 7,000, landed in Normandy, at Memovale, 3 miles west of Treporte, and found three ensigns of the enemy strongly posted, who, being sharply assailed, gave place. The march by land, skirmishing with increasing numbers of the enemy and dragging certain small pieces by hand, the burning of Treportt and its abbey by one wing while the rest burnt two or three small villages adjoining, and the return and embarking again will be recounted by bearer, Sir Peter Carew, who did good service. Will, at his coming, declare the forwardness of the other gentlemen and all the King's subjects, as soon as he has ordered the things he has in charge. Wynter, the treasurer here, requires money for payment of the army, which will amount at next pay to 7,500l., as he declared to Mr. Secretary when last with the King. Scribbled in the Harry Grace a Dieu, 3 Sept., thwart of Arrundell, at 8 a.m., coming towards Porchemouthe, where all the army, reckoning those to be appointed for the Narrow Seas, will be by 2 p.m.
Lost but 3 men, two of whom "wilfully cast away themselves, and more would have done so if they had not been looked unto."
Hol., pp.3. Add. Endd.: 1545.
3 Sept. 282. Whipstrode Chapel.
R. O. Surrender, by Thomas Magnus, clk., master of the free chapel of St. James of Wipestrode, Hants., of the said chapel and all its possessions. Dated 3 Sept. 37 Henry VIII. Signed. Seal not now attached.
Note by Sir Edw. North that this was acknowledged before him the same day.
Parchment. See Eighth Report of Dep. Keeper of Public Records, App. ii., 49.
3 Sept. 283. Carne to Paget.
R. O. Having sued to the Lady Regent for Albright Byshopp, and to the President for answer therein and in a suit of John Toularge for licence to have 5,000 pikes for the King's use, was put off from day to day until this morning, when the President sent for him and said the cause of delay was that the Margrave of Andewarpe wrote that the King was reported to have, about Colone and Trevers, 4,000 horsemen and 40 ensigns of footmen under Captain Ryffelberg, and that the King's commissaries who went to take their musters received much money in Andewarpe for their pay and hoped to get the Emperor's licence for them to pass through these countries, or else they would pass through towards England by force. The President showed the letter; and said that any attempt to pass would be withstood, and, even if the army forced a passage, they would be so cut that most of them could not afterwards serve. Answered that he had heard Mr. Hall, one of the commissaries, tell the Queen that they intended not to pass through these countries, and had never heard that the King intended them to pass against the Emperor's will; if any of the commissaries did so report in Andwarpe (which he could not believe) it was probably spoken that men should not know by which way the army would pass to England. The President said that he would be loth to stay Albright from the King's service, and, as for the pikes, the Emperor and Queen would gladly license things to be covertly conveyed, for they must not displease the French king, but so great a number of pikes could not pass secretly. Desired him to remember that merchants must sell their wares in order to live, and that he did not sue this licence for the King but for the merchant, who was bound to supply these pikes for the furniture of the Tower of London. He desired Carne to show the King's other ambassadors how the Emperor was informed, and send him word in writing "what they say unto it," and then he would answer Carne's requests. Went to my lord of Westminster and Mr. Wotton and by their advice wrote an answer, as in the schedule herewith, upon receiving which the President said that he would speak with the Queen.
Hears that "the Frenchmen begin to take captains about Andewarp side for the French king." Bruxels, 3 Sept. Signed.
Pp. 3. Add. Endd.: 1545.
3 Sept. 284. Vaughan to Paget.
R. O. Chr. Haller lately had a ship of this town, laden with 1,044 bales of woad, taken by the Scots beside the river of Burdeaux, and, fifteen days afterwards, again taken by an English ship; and he has asked Vaughan to write to some of the King's Council to obtain him recovery of his ship and goods. Haller mentioned the taking of this ship by the Scots more than a month past. Told him that it would be hard to recover the woad, which, after being so long a prize of the Scots, fell into the hands of mariners, soldiers and needy people, who forthwith sold it. Haller says that it was brought into Dartmouth, but knows not by whom. Bearer is sent by Lazarus Tucher and Chr. Haller for recompense of the woad; and, because Vaughan has to do with Haller, it were well to make gentle answer. The Fowker's jewels will not be ready this month. The French king has lately prested in this town certain Almain captains who meant to serve the King. This day Hennyk von Abberschuse, lieutenant to the Duke of Lowenbergh, brought Paget's letter directed to Chamberleyn, in whose absence Vaughan opened it and advised him to follow Chamberleyn, who would be still at Mastreght abiding an escort of Riffynbergh's horsemen to Culleyn. This captain says that he has already 200 horse here and looks for the other 100 in a day or two; and, at his desire, Vaughan has sent to the King's ambassadors to get the Emperor's licence for their passage to Calles.
It is not possible to get murrey velvet, either in colour or silk, meet for you, "for here is no such colour used here. Your gros greyn for your night gown [I will] send you with your mares and wagon." Andwerp, 3 Sept.
Encloses a remembrance of Haller's, for his woad. Begs Paget to write to Mr. Damesell to help in the receipt of the Fowker's money. Would that Damesell might receive it all, and the writer have licence to come home.
Hol., pp. 3. Add. Endd.: 1545.
3 Sept. 285. Wm. Damesell to Paget.
R. O. Has this day laden the residue of the King's powder and munition in three sundry hoys which shall be full laden with other merchants' goods and ready to depart within two or three days, by which time the writer will have finished all his business here. Desires to know whether the King will use him further here at present; and meanwhile helps Mr. Vaughan in receipt of his money. Andwerp, 3 Sept. 1545.
Hol., p. 1. Add. Endd.
3 Sept. 286. Chamberlain to Paget.
R. O. I have been seeking one to conduct your mares and wagon, and now send them by bearer, Wm. Mason, officer to the merchants here. Though the one be to the eye fairer, the other will be as good for the race, and the colt should make a fair horse. Caused the wagon to be made as handsome as might be. Wishes health to Paget and his lady. Colloigne, 3 Sept. 1545.
Hol., p. 1. Add. Endd.
3 Sept. 287. Harvel to Henry VIII.
R. O. Since his last, of 22 Aug. has received letters from the Council of 25 July, of Henry's pleasure concerning the Countye Rangon and the Signor Luis Gonsaga, with other gentlemen here who offered service. Has accordingly written to them how thankfully Henry took their offers and how gladly he would have used their service if the year had not been so far spent; exhorting them to be ready against next year. By his other letters signified Ludovico de Larme's trouble for a fray with the officers of this city by night, the wounding of a man in Treviso, and the scaling of the walls, and that he was summoned to appear within eight days. (fn. n5) He did not appear, but, at his request, Harvel required respite for him until 10 Sept. The answer was "that it could not be done by their laws"; and Ludovico was banished for ever and 100l. reward offered to him that slays him within the Venetians' dominion. Protested vehemently against this rigor, as the man wounded at Trevise was not in danger of death, and the scaling of the walls was a natural effort to escape, suspecting that the "Bishop's "fautors were authors of this extremity against Henry's captain; and told the Signory that Henry had always been a good friend to this Dominion and was a prince who remembered as well pleasure as displeasure. The Signory answered modestly that they esteemed no prince more, and it was far from their intention to offend him; they would, by their Secretary. inform him of all their proceedings, wherein they had done as they would do against their own sons. Has spoken "sundry seasons" in favour of Ludovico, who is noted to be of "a proud, vindictive and seditious nature."
Of the horsemen sent to England "I had no knowledge but about their departing, for by mine opinion they should not have departed without your Majesty's commission." I rejoiced at Mr. Paget's news of occurrents; for the Frenchmen had published the taking of the Isle of White and other great acts, which are now turned to their shame by the repulsion of their navy and of their assaults by land. All men say that the French King will be constrained to agree with you, being utterly exhausted. By letters from Constantinople of 28 July Ferdinando's ambassador to the Turk was arrived, and the Imperial and French orators were expected about 14 Aug. Parma and Plaisance are given to the Signor Piero Loigi, and after his death to the Signor Octavio, and for the investiture the Emperor shall have 400,000 cr. It "pricketh the Roman prelates extremely to see their state 'prived of so great patrimony by the fraud and tyranny of the Bishop and of his family, which for this act is hated mortally of the Romane clergy." Here is continued rumor of the treaty of peace between you and the French king. Of the Council is no mention. Men think that it will be prorogued to another season and place, or rather dissolved, the Bishop's only study being to amplify his house, who is now Imperial. Guasto is returned to Milan and provides captains, "men reckoning that between the Emperor and French King should be no good intelligence." Venice, 3 Sept. 1545.
Hol., pp. 4. Add. Endd.
3 Sept. 288. Harvel to Paget.
R. O. Paget's letters of 24 July were to him passing grateful, not only for the repulse of our enemies by sea and land "but also to see th' intolerable crakes of Frenchmen reducid to vaine ostentacion and coardnes." Their galleys have served them little, and the burning and sinking of both the French admiral's ships is malum omen to the enemies. "Although th'infortunable case of Sir George Carow is by negligence so miserablye successid," it is the fortune of war and hitherto the King has had prosperous success. Now the French king, being totally exhausted, will be constrained to make peace, and the bruit is that things tend to an agreement. The French party here spread many fables in favour of the Scots, which Paget's letters prove to be mere lies. "I hope the Frenchmen shall litil prevaile at Bolain, and by th'example of the camisata, wch hath ben to them a grevous wounde, ther furye and pride wilbe somewhat aswagid herafter." The ambitious bishop of Rome has given Parma and Plaisance to his son Piero Loigi and his heirs, to the indignation of the Roman prelates. The Bishop is now Imperial, and gave the Emperor for the investiture of the said cities 400,000 cr. It is thought that the Council will be prolonged or dissolved, the Bishop being otherwise occupied than in matters of religion. From the Turk we have nothing but that the ambassadors should arrive at Constantinople about 14 Aug. Has long desired occasion to write to Paget, but durst not, for lack of acquaintance. Venice, 3 Sept. 1545.
Hol., pp. 2. Add. Endd.
3 Sept. 289. Roman News.
Spanish
Calendar.
viii., No. 132.
Intelligence from Rome to the 3rd September.
Card. Tournon writes to Card. Trivulciis, 17th ult., that Orleans is going to Flanders to learn from the Emperor what is to be done in Milan, and that the King of England has sent to ask for peace. Advices from Flanders and Germany, of the 13th, state that England was indeed negociating through a Florentine merchant named Bart. Compagni, but his terms were too hard. The French blamed their Admiral for not doing more when the English and French fleets met. The Pope learns from Card. Farnese that the French fleet has withdrawn, and that the King of England has sent for 4,000 German horse to assist him in raising the siege of Boulogne. All in Italy, especially French and Venetians, talk ill of the Pope for the Parma and Plazencia affair. Neither Card. Armaignac nor Card. Trivulciis attended the Consistory when it was discussed, and the Bishop of Burgos openly said that his Holiness ought not to do as he proposed. A courier from Constantinople with letters of 13 and 14 July was stopped by armed men three days' journey from Adrianople, and only the letters he bore for the Signory of Venice taken from him.
*** A modern transcript is in B. M., Add. MS. 28,594 f. 169. Sp., pp. 3.
4 Sept. 290. The Privy Council.
Dasent's
A.P.C., 240.
Meeting at Oteland, 4 Sept. Present: Norfolk, Essex, Winchester, Gage, Browne, Wingfield, Paget, Petre. Business: Letters addressed to Ireland, signifying the compact made with the Lord of the Isles for annoyance of the Scots, and requiring 2,000 kerne to go with Ormonde to be under Lennox, lieutenant for the enterprise. Letters written to Chester for ships for the said 2,000 men; and to Mr. Bulkeley for one sumpter's ship at Beaumarres to serve at Lennox's coming to Chester. Diego Dastudillo, declaring that the mayor and jurates of Rye refused to accomplish the Council's letters dated Petworth, 14 Aug., for delivery of certain French prisoners, had new letters therein. Merchants of Chester, declaring that their ship, Mary Goodman, was unjustly detained in Spain, had letters to the Emperor's ambassador for her delivery.
4 Sept. 291. Henry VIII. to the Lord of the Isles.
R. O.
St. P., v. 506.
Received his letters and submission by the bishop elect of the Isles and the lord Maclane's brother, whose credence the King has also heard; and, after communing with Lynoux and the Council, has made such answer as will be declared, partly by Lynoux and the said Bishop and Maclanes brother, and partly by such writings as they bring. Exhorts him to proceed like a noble man to revenge the dishonours done him by their common enemy. Oteland, 4 Sept. 37 Hen. VIII.
Draft, p. 1. Address (copied): To, etc., "therle of Rosse and of Thisles of Scotland." Endd.: Mynute to the Lord of the S. Isles, iiij Septemb' 1545.
4 Sept. 292. Henry VIII. to the Lord Maclane.
R. O. To the same effect. Oteland, 4 Sept. 37 Hen. VIII.
Draft, p. 1. Add. Endd.
4 Sept. 293. The Privy Council to Ormond.
R. O.
St. P , v. 507.
The earl Donnault having submitted himself to the King's service and requested aid, the King is content to bear the charges of 3,000 of his men; and, upon his further suit that Lynnoux should repair thither with a band out of Ireland, the King has granted 2,000 kern and galoglasses to be levied by the Deputy and Council there. Lynnoux, who knows neither the people nor the language, much desires to have Ormond's company, and the King prays him to be ready, when Lynnoux arrives, to march forward with the said 2,000. As the said earl of the Isles has been induced to the King's service by Lynnoux, who has married the King's niece, the King has appointed Lynnoux as his lieutenant in this journey. Otelande, 4 Sept. 1545.
Draft corrected by Paget, p. 1. Endd.: Mynute from the Counsayl to therle of Ormoad, iiijo Septembr. 1545.
294. Commissioners of the Lord of the Isles to the Council.
R O.
St. P., v. 501.
Recapitulate the gist of their articles given to the Council before the earl of Lennox's coming, as in No. 198, with the following differences, viz., (1) in the 1st article, the final clause of which is here called the 2nd article, it is stated that the earl of Ros promises to "destroy e the tayne half of Scotland" or else make them come to the King's obedience, (2) in the 2nd and 3rd, here taken together as the 3rd, no agreement is to be made with Huntlie and Argyill unless the earl of Ros, the lord Maclane, captain of Clanrannald, and the rest of the barons of the Isles be included, (3) to the 4th is added that by Patrick Colquhoun, the earl of Ros has already received 1,400 cr. besides other presents, and (4) in the 5th it is stated that 4,000 of the earl's men are now come to Ireland, and the other 4,000 are keeping their own bounds against the earls of Huntlie and Argyill.
Now, after hearing the Kind's mind by Lennox, they promise, if Lennox with the King's army pass upon Dumbertan or other West parts of Scotland, to join him with 6,000 men, or it Lennox pass upon Huntlie and Argyill to join with their whole 8,000. 2. Exhort the Council to consider that their master has refused all offers of the Governor and Lords of Scotland, and, in favour of Lennox, become the King's subject and lately made slaughter upon the Scots, thus incurring the pursuit of all Scotland. 3. The King and Lennox having been defrauded by the lords of Scotland, the Council has cause to be more wary of Scots; but to show that no suspicion is to be had of "us that is callit the Wyld His of Scotland" it is to be remembered that we have always been enemies to the realm of Scotland, who, when at peace with the King, "hanged, hedit, presoned and destroed many of our kyn, freindis and forbears"; for example, the earl of Ross our master, now the King's subject, lay in prison before he was born, "and nocht releiftit wyth thair will, but now laitlie by the grace of God"; Lord Machine's father, under trust, was murdered in bed in Edinbruch by Sir John Cambell of Calder, brother to the earl of Argyill; the captain of Clanrannald last year, in his defence, "slew the lord Lowett, his sounn and air, his thre brethir, wt xiij scoir of men," and many other cruelties make it impossible for us to agree with the Scotsmen. 4. Between this and Christmas is the time in which they can best harm the Scots and delay in setting forth Lennox and their master will not only embolden their enemies, but the Frenchmen will boast that they deter the King from pursuing his rights in Scotland. 5. Pray the Council to excuse their barbarous diction, and to consider that it is not the King's money which they desire, for those who go with Lennox will spend 3 cr. of their own to 1 cr. that they get of the King.
Pp. 4. Headed: To our werray good lordis of ye Counsall these be giffin. Endd.: 1545.
4 Sept. 295. The Lord of the Isles.
R. O.
St. P., v. 504.
Promise by Rore Macallister, elect of the Isles, and Master Patrick Maclane, brother germane to the lord Maclane, bailze of Ycomkill and justice clerk of the South Isles, commissioners sent by "lord Donald of the His and erll of Ros" to present to Henry VIII a "writing of an oath"and to make covenants for him, that (the King having granted the earl a pension of 2,000 cr. by letters patent, and undertaken the protection of him and his adherents) the said Earl and his adherents will serve the King in Scotland, annoy the Governor there and his part-takers, and make no agreement with Huntlie or Argyill to the King's prejudice. And whereas the King now sends Lennox, as his lieutenant, with Ormond and a number of men, to invade Scotland, and penetrate as far as Sterling if it be feasible, the Earl of Ross will join that enterprise with 8,000 men so long as Lennox remains in Argyill's country, and with 6,000 when he is in any other part of Scotland (employing the other 2,000 in annoying Argyill). For this the King will allow, besides his men in wages out of Ireland, wages for 3,000 of their men for two months at the same rate as his own. Otland, 4 Sept. 1545. Signed.
Parchment
Add. MS.
32,656, f. 242.
Hamilton
Papers,
ii., No. 437.
2. Draft of the above.
Corrected by Paqet, pp. 6
4 Sept. 296. Sir Antony Denny to John Scudamore and Others.
Add. MS
11,041 f. 73.
B. M.
Has bought of the King 2,000 fodder of lead, whereof Mr. Chancellor of Augmentations has appointed 376 fodder within the limits of Scudamore's commission, as appears by the warrant herewith. Begs favour for Domenico Erizo, his factor herein. Otelands, 4 Sept. Signed.
P 1. Add.: Mr. Scudamore, one of the receivers of the Court of Augmentation, and to all mayors, comptrollers, customers and other officers having the order of the King's lead at Bristol and the parts adjoining.
4 Sept. 297. Fane and Others to Henry VIII.
R. O. From Andwarppe, on the 27th ult., advertised Sir Wm. Paget of their proceedings, "I, Francis Halle, being not returned from the Court at Bruxselles"; and, on the 29th, Halle also advertised his proceedings at Court, and that Chamberleyn and he intended, the same day, to ride after Vane and Averie towards Colleyn, where they all met on Wednesday afternoon last. (fn. n6) Found here Ryffynberge, Hydyllwolffe and Bookhawlte, and debated with Ryffyngberge all that evening and yesterday morning, finding him "a very quiet, reasonable and conformable man," who said that all his captains were well content with the articles, save that, where the King allows a page for every 12 horse, he must allow one for every eight. He declared that, as the writers came so long after the appointed day, part of his men who could no longer maintain themselves, being enticed by the French, were gone from him; and the writers gave him 2,000 cr. to distribute among his men. Yesterday morning, at his departing, he concluded to give his whole musters of 8,000 footmen and 1,500 horsemen at a place beyond the Ryne, two great days' journeys from this, that day se'nnight, and next day to march forwards and to observe every point of his [contra]cte, although the writers cannot see how it is possible to be in the enemy's country within three days after the musters, or yet at Boollyn or Callais within 14 days. He desired that his men might enter wages to-morrow or Monday, considering that the day appointed for the musters, 20 Aug., is so long past, and the writers stuck to have it that they should not enter wages until after the musters; but, finally, to get the goodwill of the soldiers, agreed that he should appoint the day for their entry into wages. He promised to have 8 field pieces of brass, with munitions for them, 400 pioneers and all necessaries ready at the day of marching above specified. At his going to horseback he received letters summoning him to speak with the Landgrave, and said that he would post day and night until his return, and meanwhile his lieutenant would send word if the musters might be sooner than the said se'nnight; upon knowledge of the writers' arrival here, men of war were resorting to him faster than they went away, and he would arrange that the writers might leave and take as they thought meet. Among other things, he said that the Duke of Loohenberge, chieftain of the 2,000 footmen provided by Dymmokke about Breams, is not only Papistical but is the Landgrave's enemy, who had already written to your Majesty not to use his service. He wished us to write to the Landgrave, but we said that his declaration from us that your Majesty did not know the Duke to be Papistical or the Landgrave's enemy should suffice, with our humble recommendations. We hear nothing more of Dymmokke; and, as the place is so far hence, his 2,000 men will come too late to serve. Hydyll Woolffe who has his 500 horses ready, with Ryffynberg's, on the other side of the Ryne, promises to give his musters and march at the same time as Ryffynberg, and has received 2,000 cr. in prest. Will take Bukhawlte's musters later, as his men are on this side of the river. Gave him in prest 4,000 cr. All the men shall enter wages on one day.
This town and the Princes and Protestants of this country were glad of the writers' arrival, having feared that this gathering of men was by their enemies. The lords of this town, upon the King's letter of recommendation, promised favour; and Buckhawlte says that the Duke of Cleavys, on sight of a copy of the "general letter recommendatory," gave liberty to levy horses, whereas before he had commanded the contrary. The writers pray that this fair weather may continue until they pass the Maase, as their passage would be much hindered by wet weather, "which is much to be doubted after great drought"; and will therefore make all diligence.
It is said that Chr. Prysebrough, of Landynberg's band, who served Henry at the siege of Boollyn, levied men for the French king about Breams and seized a town there, by consent of the Bishop of Breams, brother to the Duke of Bronswyk, who is also said to be "effectyonat" unto the French king and thinks thus to arouse suspicion in the Princes and Protestants that they may stay the men assembled for Henry for their own defence. Have no word yet of Albryth Buscoppe, of whom Hall wrote to Paget from Andwarppe. Certain of Matheas Lyghtmaakar's band sent word yester even "to woolde cum and speake with us." They may more cheaply pass with us than through Braband and Flanders; but we have no spare money to lend them, and Lyghtmaker covenanted to receive no money until they passed muster at Callais. Collyn, 4 Sept. 1545. Signed: R. Fane: Frauncys Halle: T. Chamb'lain: Tho. Averey.
In Hall's hand, pp. 7. Add. Endd.
4 Sept. 298. Fane and Others to Paget.
R. O. Wrote last on the 27th ult. from Andwarppe; and Halle, who was not then come from Bruxselles, wrote on the 29th and forwarded a letter from Mr. Kerne. Enclose a letter to the King of all their doings and would gladly be able to notify that they were "encamped and marching forward," which captains Ryffynberg, Hydyllwoolffe and Bukhowlte promise to be on Friday next, (fn. n7) or this day se'nnight, at latest. Collyn, 4 Sept. 1545. Signed: R. Fane: Frauncys Halle: T. Chamb'lain: Tho. Averey.
In Hall's hand, p. 1. Add. Endd.
4 Sept 299. Reiffenberg to the Commissaries.
R. O. Promised to write soon what he could do with his soldiers; and therefore certifies that on the night upon which he was with the Commissaries 300 horse and almost 1,000 foot deserted. Has no doubt that it was the work of enemies, for the Landgrave wrote to him that Duke Henry of Brunswick had received from the Commissary of the French king 8,000 cr. to seduce the writer's men from the King of England. Has now made such conditions with his men that undoubtedly the French king has lost that money. Has written these conditions in German for his clerk to declare, who will receive money for the men until the writer's coming. Will, with the Landgrave's help, make good the number who have deserted. Bids them be wary, for many will come to them with great promises who seek money and not glory. "Artes Sonia, 4 Septembris '45."
Lat. Hol., p. 1. Endd: Fredericus Reiffenburghe to the Commissioners for the musters of th'Almaynes. Also endd. in Francis Hall's hand: Coppys of l'res from Ryffynberge.
4 Sept 300. Reiffenberg to Hans Ulrich.
R. O. He shall tell the Commissaries that, through enquiry, and especially through writing of the Landgrave, the writer hears that Duke Henryck has received 8,000 cr. to "miscarry" the soldiers; and has now, in the writer s absence, carried away 300 horsemen and 1,000 footmen, and would soon have miscarried the whole band, having persuaded them that the King of England would not have them, and would do with the writer as with Landenberghe. They were the easier persuaded as there was no money at hand and victuals dear. Called them together yesterday and was fain to agree that they should enter wages on Sunday, tomorrow, 5th inst., (fn. n8) and promise them a gilden in prest; and Ulrich must ask the Commissaries to send 3,000 cr. to fulfil this promise, and also to disburse money for "moris pickes and armour," as the poor footmen have spent theirs at their "host houses." Rides now to the Landgrave whom he will procure to write to the King how things pass. Will show the Landgrave "how that the commissaris have andlyth me very genttly." The Commissaries must beware of those who come to present themselves and direct them to the writer; "and come you streght wyth the money." 4 Sept.
English translation, pp. 2. Headed: Copie off a letter sent be Frederyck van Reyffenberg unto hys clarke Hans Ulrych.
5 Sept. 301. The Privy Council.
Dasent's
A. P. C., 240
Meeting at Chobham, 5 Sept. Present: Norfolk, Essex, Winchester, Gage Browne, Wingfield, Paget, Petre. Business:—Order to Mr. Williams to repay John Harrys, merchant, 100l. delivered to the treasurer of Boloyne.
5 Sept. 302. Wriothesley to Paget and Petre.
R. O. Requires them to inform the King that he has commanded all the treasurers to make perfect declarations of their payments since his Highness came from Bulloyn. The officers of the Mint promise to have ready, by this day sevennight, 6,000l. of Irish money and 6,000l. of English, "which surely, considering what is behind with the merchants, is a great matter." Trusts to have thence 10,000l. more at the month's end. It is impossible presently to furnish Wynter with 7,000l. to discharge the navy, but Wriothesley "will set him awork in receiving" and trusts to furnish it in 3 or 4 days; which will do, as the month "cometh not up" till the 11th inst. Will get it sooner if the King sign the commission herewith for the Mint in Southwerk to coin gold. York, who has charge there, thinks to get more than comes to the Tower, and his former commission is for silver only. Has spoken with Bonvix, Salvage, Giraldi and Ruchini, fellow to Bartholomew Compayn, touching the credit to Haller and "th'imprunture" of the 60,000 ducats. They are content to give the credit themselves (as Wriothesley will signify to Mr. Vaughan, to know if he will accept it), and promise to write to their companies to know whether they will furnish that sum or more if Haller will not take their credits. Trusts to have their letters to-morrow, and will then despatch a special post to Mr. Vaughan. Has appointed Graye to make a book of the number of the boats, of the men that keep them, and of ordnance and munition in them, and to what day the men are paid; also a book of the money received and defrayed. He promises it on Monday, when Wriothesley will appoint him an auditor. Hears nothing again of Warner and the dean of Chichestre. Will despatch them when they come. Would know the King's pleasure for the Parliament, as the "writs must have a time in making." If the King will have it kept at Reading and prorogued till Nov., the Term should also be prorogued and kept there, or else so many judges, Serjeants, and ministers being engaged at the Term, "you shall have a very simple assembly, and lack of those which you must necessarily occupy." The decree for Newcastell is put according to their letters received from you. Desire the Council to sign it and send it to me with speed, "for their election shall be within little more than one sevennight." Thanks "for your good news." I send a letter which I have received from the President and Council in Wales, to be shown to the King. Ely Place, 5 Sept.
Hol., pp. 3. Add. Endd.: 1545.
5 Sept 303. The Privy Council to Lisle and St. John.
R. O. The King has seen their letters of the 4th inst. and is pleased with their forwardness in their several charges. Order is taken for sending money with speed, as well for the wages of the army as for the coats of such as Lisle takes with him to Caleyce. As to the reminder in the end of their letters of the danger to Portesmowth and the Wyght if the enemy seek revenge; albeit, by yesterday's letters from Otelandes, they would see that the King foresaw that point and would be certain of the enemy's proceedings before dissolving the army, his highness takes this occasion to signify that, even if there seem no objection to the discharge of the army, yet, "because oftentimes attemptates be sudden and the mariners being once scaled it shall be very hard to have them gathered again," a thousand or 1,500 of the mariners are to remain there in the place of other soldiers, who may use the ships and ordnance if necessary.
Draft in Petre's hand, pp. 2. Endd.: M. to the Lord Admirall and my lord Saint John, vo Septembris 1545.
5 Sept. 304. The Privy Council to the Deputy and Council of Ireland.
R. O.
St. P.. iii. 533.
The bp. elect of the Isles and the lord of McLane's brother, whom the lord of the Isles lately sent to offer his service, have, on his behalf, agreed upon articles (copy herewith), and, because he desires presently to annoy the enemies, the King will entertain with wages 3,000 of his men and aid them with 2,000 more from Ireland. The utmost speed is to be used to set these forward and provide vessels for them, and the King appoints the earl of Ormonde to be captain over these 2,000 Ireland men under the earl of Lynoux, who is appointed the King's lieutenant in that journey. The money for which they wrote is in coining, but, because the time of year for doing annoyance waxes fast away, the King has despatched these men and prays you to make shift for sufficient money to set them forward. You shall furnish Lynoux with a cannon and such artillery and munition as you can spare.
The said ships, being furnished with victuals, shall be after employed in such places as Lynoux at his coming shall signify to you.
Draft with a correction by Paget and last paragraph in Petre's hand, pp. 2. Endd.: M. to the Counsell and Deputie of Ireland vto Septembris 1545.
5 Sept 305. The Privy Council to St. Leger.
R O.
St.P..iii.634.
Write to him and the rest of the Council there the King's pleasure for 2,000 men of Ireland to serve under Ormonde and Lynoux, the King's lieutenant, who is sent thither to join with the lord of the Isles of Scotland. As the King would have the men chosen out of the "most wild and savage sort" there, whose absence should do good rather than hurt, you are to communicate this to such of the Privy Council there as you think will earnestly travail to effect this purpose.
Draft, p. 1. Endd.: M. to the Deputie of Ireland, vo Septembris 1545.
5 Sept. 306. Petre to Wriothesley.
R. O. Sends three letters from the Council, "endorsed," for Wriothesley to peruse and seal; also bills signed for the lord of the Isles's pension, for the Mint and for the other commission in Ireland, to be passed under the Great Seal. It may please you, "after showing the patent sealed for the lord of the Isles to the bishop elect and th'other, who have received their rewards and be appointed here to take the final despatch at your hands, to deliver the same to my lord of Lynoux, to be by him delivered to the said lord of the Isles." (fn. n9) You shall herewith receive a letter from my lord Admiral and my lord Chamberlain touching such men as must presently be paid at Portesmowth. The King thinks the coats therein mentioned to be necessary for all who pass to Caleys and would have money sent for them. We desire all possible diligence made for the sending of the money and your answer what you shall do therein. (fn. n10)
Draft in Petre's hand, p. 1. Mutilated. Endd.: M. to the lord Chancellor, vo Septembris 1545.
5 Sept. 307. [The Privy Council] to Hertford.
R. O.
St. P., v. 508.
My lord Admiral has burnt Treporte in Normandy and three or four villages thereabouts, with two or three gentlemen's houses and an abbey, and 18 or 20 ships in the haven; and, having lost only three men, is again with all the King's navy at Portesmouth. Lord Grey, having appointed to commune with my lord of Surrey at Guysnes on the 2nd inst., and coming down to the water side to meet my said lord of Surrey, "the alarm was given." In the subsequent skirmish Mons. de Dampierre, captain of Arde, and over a hundred of the enemy were slain. The bp. elect of the Isles and the lord McLane's brother, commissioners of the earl of the Isles, are this day despatched hence, having covenanted that they and the others shall be the King's subjects and take no peace with the Governor, &c, without the King's consent, and to employ 6,000 of their 8,000 men in his service, of whom he is content to pay the wages of 3,000; and the King has "presently" written into Ireland for 2,000 men to join them under the earl of Ormond. My lord of Lynoux is to be lieutenant of that army, which shall be set forward with all possible speed. The King gives the earl of the Isles a pension of 2,000 cr.
Draft corrected by Petre, pp. 2. Endd.: M. to my lord of Hertford, vto Septembris 1545.
5 Sept. 308. Hertford, Holgate, Tunstall and Sadler to Paget.
R. O.
St. P., v. 509.
Enclose a platte of the house of Kelso as it is said to be, and another platte of the fortress which he intends to make there; which is the less in order that it may be the sooner made and the easier guarded, and yet he will undertake to lodge in it 200 horsemen and 100 footmen. The Italian fortifier who is here likes the device very well. Upon the Council's last letters, Hertford signified to Anguishe, Casselles, Marshall and George Dowglas "in how good part their late letters were accepted," but will trust them no further than he sees cause. Hertford removes to-day to Alnewike, intending on Monday (fn. n11) to encamp near Warke, and so proceed against the enemy. The 10,000l. of which Paget wrote is not yet come, and enough money cannot be borrowed here; but the army is despatched forwards with fair words. When the 10,000l., which is said to be as far as Dankaster, arrives, it will soon be consumed, for all the English garrisons and most of the strangers are unpaid for the month which began in August; and money is needed for coats, conduct, and wages for the army now called out of Yorkshire, Cheshire and Lancashire, besides 1,100 or 1,200 pioneers to make the fortress at Kelso, provisions, carriages and conduct money homewards. Four French soldiers who came from France with Lordges have been sent hither by Lawson from Warke castle. They would serve the King and complain of ill-treatment and payment in Scotland, and they think that many of their companions would also desert. Likewise a Scottish man of arms named Makgill, of the band of the said Lordges, who formerly dwelt in London and was made denizen when Glencarne and Sir George Dowglas were last in England, has come hither, affirming what the Frenchmen say of ill-payment, and has made a report in writing (sent herewith). Another French soldier just arrived at Warke to offer service says that 200 or 300 of his companions will do the like. Would know how to order them if they do. Those who have come are honestly treated. Newcastell, 5 Sept. 1545.
P.S.—We, the abp. of York and bp. of Duresme, remain here to expedite affairs until the Earl's return.
Pp. 3. Add. Endd.
5 Sept 309. Fane to Paget.
R. O. Has been charged all this year with 40 or 50 horse which he prepared to serve the King, but could not hitherto employ. Begs that he may, with them, serve among this band of horsemen which he and others now conduct to Boloigne, rather than that they should stand still eating in his stable. Coloigne, 5 Sept. Signed.
P. 1. Add. Sealed. Endd.: 1545.
5 Sept 310. Mont to Paget.
R. O. As there are divers practices now in Germany, and often under feigned names, the assembly of soldiers by Reyffenberg gave Bucler and me much anxiety lest they should be for the French king; for although, from your letters, we knew that Reyffenberg had been in England, we were ignorant of the result, and doubted the length of the journey, the difficulty of access to England, and the approach of winter. I came hither from Francford to learn the real reason of this assembly, and spoke with Reyffenberg, who intimated that the King's Commissaries had come to Cologne and would not come hither for at least eight days; whereupon I determined to return to Francford when I had written to the Commissaries. On 5 Aug. we sent the writing of the Protestants to you by Hoennings, but at my departure from Francford had received nothing from you; which long silence makes us anxious. The Duke of Brunswick now has his army prepared and has seized a second or third little town in the bpric. of Verden, which is under the bp. of Bremen, his (Brunswick's) brother german, and it is thought that, unless restored, he will, by his brother's collusion, occupy the whole bishopric of Bremen. A French agent, with three servants, lies here at Coblentz, who told one sent by me that the Emperor has promised him not to suffer these soldiers to pass through Lower Germany, and that Longueval with a force of horse and foot will stop their passage through Picardy. Another French ambassador is with the Duke of Brunswick. This ambassador at Coblentz was lately with the electors of Cologne, Mayence and Palatine (he has not yet been with Treves who is very ill) urging them not to allow soldiers to be led out of their dominions against his King, their confederate. He has made like request to the Landgrave by letter. Today I return towards Francford to Mr. Bucler, who is now better. Commend me to your colleague, Mr. Peter. Ex Confluentia, 5 Sept. 1545.
Lat. Hol., pp. 2. Add. Endd.
311. St. Mauris and Noirthoudt to Charles V.
Spanish
Calendar,
viii., No. 109.
On receiving the Emperor's letters of the 2nd inst., obtained audience. Waited in the Admiral's chamber, who said it was rumoured that the King of England had shown the Emperor that he would surrender Boulogne for a sum of money. Neither the King nor Tournon mentioned this, which was probably meant only to draw some admission. St. Mauris told the King that the Emperor was pleased to learn his inclination to peace, and, as to his offer to pay money for the surrender of Boulogne, would gladly know the amount, although it was doubtful whether the King of England would admit such a proposal. The King answered that he never meant the compensation to include the cost of the war; the fortifications should be valued, and he would not stand out for a matter of 15,000, 20,000 or 30,000 cr. As to the Scots, the King thought the conditions should be as usual when England and Scotland were at peace; he would never consent to the King of England subjecting Scotland by marrying the Princess of Scotland to his son, but it would be a good work to reconcile the English and Scots. As to the pensions, he would have the treaties examined, in order to know what his obligations were.
Noirthoudt then asked whether the King thought it advisable to have a conference of French and English representatives, either at the Emperor's Court or elsewhere. The King seemed delighted with the suggestion, and thought the Emperor's Court the best place; but, if that could not be arranged, Gravelines or elsewhere in the Emperor's dominions would do.
After dinner, declared their mission and interview with the King to Card. Tournon, saying that they would have done so to the Admiral also, but he had been with the King.
Thought the King and ministers would have preferred that these enquiries should be postponed until the result of M. d'Eick's negociation was known, as if suspecting a design to make them appear to be taking the first step. Noticed this especially in Tournon, and therefore said that what they told him of D'Eick's having found the King of England willing to come to terms should convince him that England had been approached first. Tournon afterwards expressed surprise that the Emperor should allow passage to the King of England's lansquenets, and said that M. de Gragnan wrote that the Emperor had answered that he could hardly stop them now that they were mustered; the King, however, cared little for their entrance into France if they did not pass through the Emperor's territories to Calais. Tournon said that he and the Admiral, without instructions, had agreed to beg the writers to address the Emperor on this subject. Hearing that Orleans was much better than he had been two days before, they congratulated him on his convalescence. He answered that he was much better and would have been sorry to die before doing some signal service to the Emperor.
*** A modern transcript is in B.M., Add. MS. 28,594, f. 155, Fr, pp. 6.

Footnotes

  • n1. Roderic McAlister and Patrick McLean.
  • n2. At Hull
  • n3. No. 271.
  • n4. That is the officers of the Mint.
  • n5. What follows about Ludovico de Larme is printed in St. P., X., 576.
  • n6. Sept. 2nd
  • n7. Sept. 11th
  • n8. The 5th Sept. was not a Sunday but a Saturday in 1545; so that apparently this and the preceding letter were really written on the 5th, and misdated the 4th
  • n9. The passage quoted is substituted for the following:—"To deliver the packet of the whole to my lord of Lynoux, who will now out of hand depart towards Chester in post, and from thence to Ireland. I would have made the packet here and sealed the same with the signet, addressing the whole to my lord Deputy, but because your Lordship should first see the letters."
  • n10. These sentences about the navy's wages are also substituted for a cancelled passage, now mutilated, in which Petre writes that understanding that Mr. Paget, before departing, had already written of the matter, he sends the said letters, which he wishes returned; and that there is no other news of importance.
  • n11. Sept. 7th