Henry VIII: October 1529, 17-31

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Letters and Papers, Foreign and Domestic, Henry VIII, Volume 4, 1524-1530. Originally published by Her Majesty's Stationery Office, London, 1875.

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October 1529

17 Oct.
Le Grand, III.
This despatch has been delayed, as it has been needful to write and rewrite several times the letters I send you, and by the repeated going and coming of the Dukes to Windsor, whence at this moment they have sent them to me in the form you will see by the copy. They trust it may be excused if they are not found satisfactory, as they have not yet got into the way of managing with the King; but they swear they will do marvels in future, and are so confident that I can hardly help believing them.
I have visited the Cardinal in his troubles. He is the greatest example of fortune that one could see. He represented his case to me in the worst rhetoric I ever saw; for heart and tongue failed him completely. He wept, and prayed that Francis and Madame would have pity upon him, if they found that he had kept his promise to be a good servant to them so far as his honor would permit. But at last he left me, without being able to say anything more to me than his countenance did, which has lost half its animation (qui est bien descheu de la moitié de juste pris). His case is such that his enemies, even though they be Englishmen, could not help pitying him, yet they do not desist from persecuting him to the last; and he sees no means of safety, unless Francis and Madame will help him. He does not desire legateship, seal of office, or influence,—is ready to give up everything, to his shirt, and to go and live in a hermitage, if this King will not keep him in disfavor. I have consoled him as well as I could, but I have been able to do little. He has since sent to me, by one whom he trusts, to show what he would wish done for him, saying that it would not hinder Francis if he at least wrote to this King that there is a great rumor in France that he had removed Wolsey from his presence and from his good favor, so that he was in danger of being destroyed, which Francis could not readily believe, and hoped Henry would not suddenly take up a bad impression against those who have seen that he was the instrument of this perpetual amity, so renowned throughout Christendom; and that if, perchance, he had fallen into his displeasure, he hopes the King will moderate his anger, which he is sure he will be counselled to do by those about him who have the management of his Grace's affairs. This was the most reasonable of all his requests; in which I hope I am not obtruding my advice if I say that such a letter ought not to be taken ill by any man here, especially when they consider, as they do, that they are compelled to take your part more than ever.
Moreover, I assure you that the greatest advantage they have ever had of him, and what has served most to put him in discredit with the King, was, that at my coming he declared too openly his wish to go to Cambray. The others persuaded the King that this was only to escape from being at the expedition of the marriage; and I can tell you, that without him they were terribly near bringing the King to break off the peace negotiations. So I wrote to you at the time; but I left ten times as much to say, which I must keep till I see you, and which I am sure you will find very strange. If the King and Madame think this advisable, they will have withdrawn a faithful servant from the gates of hell. But he begs above everything that this King be not informed that they have been asked to do it; for his enemies insinuate that he has always had, both in peace and war, secret intelligence with Madame, from whom during the war he received large presents, and that this was the reason why, when Suffolk was at Montdidier, he did not help him with money, which would have enabled him to take Paris. This they talk of in a whisper, that I may not be apprised of it. As to the said presents, he hopes Madame will not do him an injury if it be spoken of. In all other things he recommends himself to her Grace. These Lords intend, after he is dead or ruined, to impeach the state of the Church, and take all their goods; which it is hardly needful for me to write in cipher, for they proclaim it openly. I expect they will do fine miracles. I have also been told by your great prophet with the brazen face, that this King will hardly live more than ..., to whom, as you know, so far as I see by his writings, he has allowed no further term than the monster (monstre) of May.
I must not omit to say that if Francis and Madame wish to do anything for Wolsey they must make haste. The letters will never be here before he has lost the seal. But he no longer cares about that. They will help for the rest. Also they should give my successor, whom every one is expecting here in a few days, charge to speak about it. The worst of his evil is that Mademoiselle de Boulen has made her friend promise that he will never give him a hearing, for she thinks he could not help having pity upon him. London, 17 Oct.
Fr. Add.
19 Oct.
R. O.
Indenture of covenant, dated 19 Oct. 21 Hen. VIII., between Anne countess of Oxford on the one side, and Sir Antony Wyngfeld and Edmund Knyghtley on the other, relative to the claims made by the latter parties against the present earl of Oxford, in respect of lands inherited from the late Earl, which claims were submitted to the arbitration of Thos. duke of Norfolk, high treasurer, Charles duke of Suffolk, great marshal, Thos. marquis of Dorset, George earl of Shrewsbury, Robt. viscount Fitzwater, and Thos. viscount Rocheford.
20 Oct.
Add. MS.
28,176, f. 62 b.
B. M.
6013. FERRERS.
Indenture by which dame Dorothy Ferrers assigns the rents of a burgage called le Butcher in Tamworth, of which she enfeoffed Wm. and Francis Repington and others, by deed dated 20 Oct. 22 Hen. VIII., to the bailiffs of Tamworth, for the performance of an obit on 11 July, in St. Edith's church, Tamworth, for the souls of the late Sir John Ferrers, her husband, herself, and Wm. and Margaret Harper, her father and mother, and for giving alms.
Pp. 2, modern copy.
21 Oct.
R. O.
I beg you to write two or three lines of the prosperity and welfare of my lord (Wolsey), and ye should do more for my comfort than I can express. You know my true hearty mind and service towards him, and my prayers for his continuance. Our unkind neighbour, Mr. Huddelston, still continues his old malice against our poor monastery, regardless of my Lord's injunctions. I hope he will not forget his own poor house of Winchcombe, and I beg you will remind him of it secretly. Winchcombe, 21 Oct.
Hol., p. 1. Add.: To the right honorable Mr. Thomas Cromwell, counsellor to my lord Cardinal's grace; with speed.
21 Oct.
R. O.
St. P. VII. 209.
I wrote to you that I had found the theologian here, who I imagined was at Avignon. By occasion of Vannes' departure, I send you his opinion, which is against the Pope's power of dispensation in this case. I begged of him to search the Fathers, especially St. Augustine, who is produced on the side of his opponents. He seemed to me to be very resolute on this point. Lyons, 21 Oct. 1529.
Hol., Lat. Add. Endd. by Gardiner.
22 Oct.
R. O.
I have read your latter letters, in which you complain grievously of the disrespect shown to the pontifical dignity, and the violation of your legatine authority, because certain porters of ours have examined your baggage; and a rumor has prevailed that you and the cardinal of York had been guilty of collusion in our cause; and that you would not leave England until this calumny had been cleared up, and satisfaction given for so atrocious a wrong. I cannot sufficiently wonder that your wisdom should exaggerate such minute offences, and take such dire offence, as though it were in my power to anticipate the temerity of the mob, or the excessive officiousness of others in discharge of their duty. As to your legateship, no wrong has been done by me or mine, seeing that your authority only extended so far as to the termination of my cause, and when that was revoked by papal inhibition, it had expired; and neither I nor my subjects acknowledge that you have any other authority. I wonder that you are so ignorant of the laws of this kingdom that you were not afraid to make use of the title of legate when it became defunct, seeing that you are a bishop here, and so bound by the most solemn obligation to observe and respect my royal dignity, jurisdiction, prerogative, &c.
As to the business of the porters, long before your return into Italy they had received orders to allow no one to pass on any legal suspicion, even with our letters patent, without diligent examination of their baggage. As we had no intention that this should prove an annoyance to you, nor hinder your journey, or cause you any loss, we request that you will take this in good part; and we regret that greater caution and prudence was not shown by the officers in discharge of their duty. As it was done in fulfilment of their oath, we trust you will not consider them deserving of punishment. You will do us wrong if you think the worse for this fact.
As to the other part of your complaint, touching the rumor which has arisen, it would be hopeless for you to stay here in the expectation of removing it by any process. A wise man will pay no attention to ordinary rumors. You may infer from it that my subjects are not very well pleased that my cause has come to no better conclusion. I shall have reason to doubt your faith and the integrity of your friendship when your words and professions so little agree. Windsor, 22 Oct.
Lat., p. 1, broadsheet. Endd. by Gardiner; and by Boleyn?: Litera a Rege ad cardinalem Campegium missa.
22 Oct.
R. O.
Indenture between the King and Wolsey, by which the latter acknowledges that on the authority of bulls obtained by him from the court of Rome, by which he was made legate, and which he published in England contrary to the statute, he has unlawfully vexed the greater number of the prelates of this realm, and other of the King's subjects, thereby incurring the penalties of præmunire, by which also he has deserved to suffer perpetual imprisonment at the King's pleasure, and to forfeit all his lands, offices, and goods. He prays Henry, in part recompence of his offences, to take into his hands all his temporal possessions, all debts due to him, and all arrears of pensions and presentations to benefices, and covenants to make further assurance when required. 22 Oct. 21 Hen. VIII. Signed by Wolsey. Remains of his seal attached.
22 Oct.
MS. 5,499,
p. 149.
Bibl. Nat.
Would be glad to grant to Wolsey the request which he made to me secretly by an Italian servant, the only one who has remained faithful to him. On Tuesday (fn. 1) the great seal was taken from him, and an inventory was made of his goods, and commands were issued to every one who had been in his service these 20 years to render an account of all that they have touched. This they have found difficult, because, not a sixth part being found of what was expected, they are well assured to have many "tours de corde." He was also ordered to reply before the King or Parliament, and thinking, what is quite true, that the Bishops had already chosen judges after their own liking for the said Parliament, he preferred to put himself in the mercy of the King; of which nevertheless he hoped less than nothing, being used with such severity that, in addition to the loss of all his goods and honors, he expects to be perpetually imprisoned, and that neither the King nor Parliament will ever revoke his sentence. The points of which he is accused are robberies and exactions, but these would not be mortal offences. They say at Amiens he agreed to admit the duke of Ferrara into the League, without the knowledge of the King; that he delivered to Francis a bond under his hand without authority; that he made intimation of war to the Emperor, &c. The least of these things, they say, will cost his head; and I fully believe that if Francis and Madame do not help him in all diligence, he is in great danger. He would like Francis and Madame to send a gentleman hither in all diligence, by whom they would represent what you wrote on the 16th, without specifying further, or giving the least intimation that it was at his request, otherwise it will be immediate death to him. He begs Francis, for the mercy of God, thus to protect him from the fury of his enemies, who would bring his old age to the most shameful and miserable end. For my part, though I have no business to meddle further, or to give my advice, I will say little, knowing that where affection and pity reign the judgment is apt to be biassed. The duke of Norfolk was (is made ?) chief of the Council, &c.
The remainder is contained in the fragment printed by Le Grand, of this date, but in somewhat different order.
Fr., pp. 3. From a transcript, dated in the margin at the head: Londres, 22 Oct. 1529.
22 Oct.
Le Grand, III.
(The beginning of the letter is in cipher, undeciphered.)
While writing, I have heard that Wolsey has just been put out of his house, and all his goods taken into the King's hands. Besides the robberies of which they charge him, and the troubles occasioned by him between Christian princes, they accuse him of so many other things that he is quite undone. The duke of Norfolk is made chief of the Council, Suffolk acting in his absence, and, at the head of all, Mademoiselle Anne. It is not known yet who will have the seal. I expect the priests will never have it again; and that in this Parliament they will have terrible alarms. I expect Dr. Stephen will have a good deal to do with the management of affairs, especially if he will abandon his order (jetter le froc aux horties). But I am not so much disgusted but that, if any one offered me Paris and St. Mor, I would take them, and be at the charge of being your bishop. I am, however, compelled to tell you that I am here in the greatest dishonor, which will increase when the whole Parliament shall meet, especially seeing I must ride on a mule for fear of the plague, which has visited the animals; and I do not think that you wish me to renew my train, and refurnish my house, which you know is impossible. London, 22 Oct.
P.S.—They are vexed at not hearing news from you more frequently, and are very anxious to hear some to the disadvantage of the Emperor, either by means of the Turk or otherwise.
Fr. Add.
23 Oct.
Le Glay,
Négoc. II. 712.
Account of their good reception at Paris. The duke of Albany (among others) met them on horseback, and was afterwards sent to fetch them to the King's presence. Francis desires to take part in the expedition against the Turk, and to succour the king of Hungary. Bonnivet is instructed to treat with Charles and the Pope. Francis said he would furnish 40,000 foot and 3,000 men-at-arms, and the king of England would also furnish 20,000 English. Interview between La Chaux and the Grand Master, in which were discussed several matters which gave the Emperor cause of complaint. On the 20th, the duke of Albany and others were sent to bring the writers to the French king's lodging, whom they accompanied to the church of Nostre Dame, where, in presence of the English, Venetian, and other ambassadors, Francis took his oath to the treaty of peace. Dined with the King in the Bishop's house, near the church, with the English ambassadors, the sieur d'Albrecth, the cardinal of Lorraine, and the Chancellor. Paris, 23 Oct. 1529.
23 Oct.
R. O.
"Ex Antverpia, die xxiij. Octobris datis literis."
The Turk has returned to Hungary, and fortified the frontiers. Some say that the Vayvode, who persuaded him to this war, is with him. The King of the Romans was marching towards the Turk, but he had not much chance of success, as his forces were but small, and every place was provided for. The Emperor had dismissed great part of his forces, keeping the Italians, with whom it was said he would go to Italy to visit the Pope. Most people think he will go to Genoa, and cross thence to Spain; to which the Queen earnestly persuades him. It has been reported for eight days that Doria's fleet has stormed Modonum, but only on the authority of a private letter from Rome. Recent letters from Ancona state that the Pope had sent a captain thither, who wished the whole city to be at the Pope's will, and he has now obtained possession of it. He has made many promises to foreign merchants, and says the Pope wishes trade to be more free and safe than ever before. It is thought, however, that when he is firmly settled everything will be managed for his own profit. Turks and Jews are refraining from commerce there till they see in what state Turkish affairs are.
Lat., pp. 2. Endd. by Wriothesley: Nova a Petro Vannes.
24 Oct.
R. O.
6022. PASSAGES between DOVER and CALAIS.
Certificate by Sir Francis Bryan to the customer of Sandwich, that the baily's ship of Dover has transported him and his stuff thence to Calais the 23rd of July, for which 6l. is due to the baily.
On the dorse there is a receipt by Raff Jamys to Thomas Vaughan for 4l. (part of the 6l.) received through Tho. Alcok, the customer, on 8 Oct. 21 Hen. VIII.
ii. Similar certificate by Dr. Edw. Fox, ambassador to France, 25 May 21 Hen. VIII. Signed.
iii. Certificate by Dr. Foxe, ambassador to France, to the customer of Dover and Sandwich, that he has covenanted with two persons for a boat and a crayer to carry over his horses and baggage; desiring they be paid 4 nobles and 40s. respectively. Dover, ... May. Signed and sealed.
iv. Certificate by John Stokesley, elect of London, to the same, that Edward M ..., with his ship the Gabriel, has transported from Calais to Hythe the horses of Stokesley and Dr. Cranmer, with their stuff and baggage; for which he is to be paid 40s. Dated 20 Oct. x[xij?] Hen. VIII. Signed.
v. Certificate by Sir Fras. Bryan, ambassador to France, to the customer of Sandwich, that the baily's ship of Dover has transported him from Dover to Calais the 19th of July, for which he is to be paid 6l.
vi. Similar certificate on 16 Oct. Signed.
vii. Certificate by Sir W ..., that the Galyand has transported his horses and baggage from Calais to Sandwich. Calais, 17 Feb. Signature lost.
viii. Certificate by Edward [Foxe] that the baily's ship of Dover, called the John Baptist, has "conveyed from Dover to Calais D[octor Foxe] and his company, ambassador to the Pope," for 6l. 24 Oct. 21 Hen. VIII. Signature mutilated.
24 Oct.
R. O.
Fortnightly accounts of building expences for Cardinal's College from Nov. _ to 24 Oct.
Stone is taken from Cotswold and Hedington. Payments for new lodges made for freemasons at Barington and Shurburne; expences at Sonnyng; carriage of gravel; repairing lime-kilns at Becley; taking down lead at Wallingford; carriage of lead from Poughley; felling, hewing and squaring timber; new frame wrought for the almshouse at Kyrtlington; "batering of toles" at Burford; purchase and "bartlage" of wainscoats; paring tiles and plaster; painting and gilding the hall "and greffith for the femerall (?);" besides wages to freemasons, "herdhewers," carpenters and other laborers.
Pp. 25. Endd.
R. O.
St. P. I. 348.
These shall be to thank you for the comfort sent to me, languishing in extreme sorrow and heaviness, by Sir John Russell, by which I perceive you will have pity and compassion upon me. I shall endeavour as well as I can to attemper my sorrow, praying that, as soon as it will stand with your honor, it may be openly known to my poor friends and servants that you have forgiven me mine offences, and delivered me from all danger of the laws.
Hol. Add.
25 Oct.
Rym. XIV. 349.
Memorandum of the surrender of the Great Seal by Cardinal Wolsey, on 17 Oct., to the dukes of Norfolk and Suffolk, in his gallery at his house at Westminster, at 6 o'clock p.m., in the presence of Sir Wm. Fitzwilliam, John Tayler, and Stephen Gardiner. The same was delivered by Tayler to the King at Windsor, on the 20 Oct., by whom it was taken out and attached to certain documents, in the presence of Tayler and Gardiner, Hen. Norris, Thos. Heneage, Ralph Pexsall, clerk of the Crown, John Croke, John Judd, and Thos. Hall, of the Hanaper.
On the 25th Oct. the seal was delivered by the King at East Greenwich to Sir Thos. More, in the presence of Hen. Norres and Chr. Hales, Attorney General, in the King's privy chamber; and on the next day, Tuesday, 26 Oct., More took his oath as Chancellor in the Great Hall at Westminster, in presence of the dukes of Norfolk and Suffolk, Th. marquis of Dorset, Hen. marquis of Exeter, John earl of Oxford, Hen. earl of Northumberland, Geo. earl of Shrewsbury, Ralph earl of Westmoreland, John bishop of Lincoln, Cuthbert bishop of London, John bishop of Bath and Wells, Sir Rob. Radclyf, viscount Fitzwater, Sir Tho. Boleyn, viscount Rocheforde, Sir Wm.Sandys, Lord and others.
Close Roll, 21 Hen. VIII. m. 19d.
25 Oct.
Bradford, 256.
On the receipt of your letter on Thursday the 21st, dated Piacenza, I sent to Windsor to ask for an audience. As the administration has fallen principally into the hands of the duke of Norfolk, and the communication is more agreeable to him than that of the marriage, I hastened to visit him. The Cardinal, who was dis-evangelised on the day of St. Luke the Evangelist (18 Oct.), has been deprived of his offices. I was received by the Duke with great distinction, and expressed to him the regard in which you had always held him for his goodwill. He seemed highly pleased, and said that he and his family had always been attached to the house of Burgundy; that no one more lamented the late disagreements than himself, but that all the evil and misunderstanding ought to be attributed to those who formerly directed the King's councils, acting by their own will and authority, with which the King himself was often dissatisfied.
In reply to his remark that he should like to serve your Majesty against the Turk, I praised his virtuous feelings, and told him that was the main object of my communication; but for the better security of peace, which the King had done so much to establish, one unhappy difference between himself and the Queen remained to be settled. I told him that, however strongly he might feel from family considerations, (fn. 2) he could not but feel as a true knight, nor act otherwise than if it had been his own daughter, and as conscience directed; and that your Majesty was convinced that he had not been the promoter of this step. He replied that he would sooner have lost one of his hands than that such a question should have arisen; but it was entirely a matter of law and conscience, and he had never been appealed to; that it had been submitted to ecclesiastics and doctors, who had pronounced against the validity of the marriage; that if the dispensation you held was illegal, the King would consider himself the most abused prince in Christendom; and that if you had not declared yourself in it so openly, it might have sooner been brought to a satisfactory issue. I explained to him the constraint under which you acted; and that, as to the king of England not having declared himself a party in the matter, it was clear that he had done so from the proceedings of the English ambassadors at Rome. Finding he remained thoughtful, I changed the subject. Shortly after he turned to me with a laugh, and said, "How glad the Emperor will be to hear of this fall of the Cardinal, and his loss of office?" I answered, I thought you would, but not from any hatred you had to the Cardinal; and that he could have done neither good nor ill to you, and was not of such importance as that you would care to be avenged, or trouble yourself about his disgrace; but what you rejoiced at was, that the king of England would now learn who had been his evil counsellors, and leave the management of affairs to men who from birth and circumstances were more competent. I told him that I was the first who had broken through the chain of paying court to the Cardinal, and addressed myself to him. He thanked me for my good intentions, and said that the government was managed not by an individual but by the Council, where he usually assisted, and would promote Your Majesty's interests.
In order to please the Duke I asked him what I should do, although I had already sent one of my secretaries to the King. He told me that the King had ordered that application should be made direct to himself, before any other person was acquainted with the communication. He followed me to the hall, using very courteous language.
On the 22nd my secretary returned from Windsor, stating that the King would be at Greenwich on Saturday, and I was to go the day after. On my reaching Greenwich I found a civil gentleman, named Poller (Bollen ?), sent by the King to conduct me to the palace. There I found the bishop of London, who led me to the King's antechamber, where the Court was assembled, and was received by two dukes and the archbishop of Canterbury. I conversed with these lords, waiting for the King to go to mass; and we talked of the conference at Bologna. The King, on going to mass, came directly to me, and taking me by the sleeve said, with the utmost graciousness, "You have news from my brother the Emperor." On answering Yes, he asked the date, and then said your Majesty was very careful to give him information. I assured him that you were anxious to make him partaker of all affairs, and thus show your brotherly affection. I then presented your letters, and, as to the particulars of my credentials, he said that the ambassadors in your court were authorised to treat about them. Speaking of your going into Italy I bespoke his good offices.
On his return from mass, he came up to me again, and resumed the subject. When we talked of the necessity of resisting the Turk, and of the Pope's arrival at Bologna on the 5th, I said I thought it advisable that he should commission his ambassadors with the Pope to treat; and I combated his remark that he could do but little against the Turk, seeing he was wealthy, and as absolute in his dominions as the Pope. He urged that this affair was chiefly yours, and if you wished to accomplish it you must make peace with the princes of Italy. I assured him you had never ceased from efforts in this direction. The conversation then turned on the duke Francesco Sforza; and I urged, in opposition to his remark, that your proceedings were as favorable to the Duke as could be. He objected to the cession of Pavia and Alexandria, alleging the cruelties which had taken place at Sienna. I told him Pavia was out of dispute, as it was already given up. "Between ourselves," said he, "I think it is a great shame that whilst the Turk is in Austria, the patrimony of the Emperor, he should not rescue it, but make war upon Christians." On my urging the danger that might be expected from Sforza and the Venetians if your troops were withdrawn, he urged that neither could do anything. Shortly after, changing his tone, he said, with some emphasis, "My brother the king of France has made your Emperor a marvellous offer." This he repeated three times. I said, if it were so, he had now done a virtuous part, and kept his professions. After various other topics it grew late. Not a word was said of the Queen. After dinner he asked me if I had anything more to say.
All here are satisfied with the treaty of Cambray. As for the observance of it, the Queen, as I have already written, has expressed her doubt of its duration. It is supposed to have cost this King 800,000 ducats. He is not therefore likely to break it. People here are not very anxious to repeat the dose, as it is not to their taste. At present they seem on good terms with the French. The ambassador has been only once at court with his brother since my arrival. He has been commanded to deliver his message to the Council, and abstain from communication with the Cardinal; at which he was greatly vexed. Various ambassadors are here. The most in favour is the Milanese, on whom the King has spent money. Those who are now in most credit are the dukes of Norfolk and Suffolk. There is not a single person about the King who is not saturated with French money; and though they profess great affection to you, their affection for money is much stronger. I have submitted the proposition to the King respecting the sea being kept free from pirates. He has ordered a good reception for Mons. Rosymbez.
The downfall of the Cardinal is complete. He is dismissed from the Council, deprived of the Chancellorship, and constrained to make an inventory of his goods in his own hand, that nothing may be forgotten. It is said that he has acknowledged his faults, and presented all his effects to the King. Yesterday the King returned to Greenwich by water secretly, in order to see them, and found them much greater than he expected. He took with him "sa mye" (his darling—Ann Boleyn), her mother, and a gentleman of his chamber (Norris ?) The Cardinal, notwithstanding his troubles, has always shown a good face, especially towards the town, but since St. Luke's Day all has been changed to sighs and tears night and day. The King, either moved by pity, or for fear if he should die the whole extent of his effects would not be found, sent him a ring for his comfort. He has withdrawn with a small attendance to a place ten miles off. They have sent for his son from Paris. People say execrable things of him, all which will be known at this Parliament. But those who have raised the storm will not let it abate, not knowing, if he returned to power, what would become of them. The ambassador of France commiserates him most. It was feared the Cardinal would get his goods out of the country, and therefore a strict watch was kept at the ports, and the watch insisted on opening the coffers of cardinal Campeggio, notwithstanding his passport, and, on his refusal, broke open the locks. He said they had done him great wrong to suppose that he could be corrupted by the Cardinal, since he had been proof against the innumerable presents offered him by the King.
The Chancellor's seal has remained in the hands of the duke of Norfolk till this morning, when it was transferred to Sir Thomas More. Every one is delighted at his promotion, because he is an upright and learned man, and a good servant of the Queen. He was chancellor of Lancaster, an office now conferred on the Sieur Villeury (Fitzwilliam). Richard Pace, a faithful servant of your Majesty, whom the Cardinal had kept in prison for two years, as well in the Tower of London as in a monastery (Syon House), is set at liberty. Unless his mind should again become unsettled, it is thought he will rise in higher favour at Court than ever.
There is a young man here, sent by the duke of Saxony, who has much business with the King and the bishop of London.
Of the King's affair there is nothing new to communicate, except what the bishop of London has told me, that Dr. Stokesley had been sent to France to consult the doctors of Paris. The Queen begs your Majesty will send some respectable person there to do the same, for without some definitive sentence the King will remain obstinate in his opinions. She thinks that delay will be more dangerous than profitable, and therefore we have thought it desirable not to consent to the postponement demanded. To avoid creating suspicion in the mind of the King, she thinks I had better cease to visit her, but she will provide means for my speaking with her in private. London, 25 Oct. 1529.
P.S.—Two days after I had written the above, the Cardinal was definitively condemned by the Council, declared a rebel, and guilty of high treason for having obtained a legatine bull, whereby he had conferred many benefices in the King's patronage. He has been deprived of his dignities, his goods confiscated, and himself sentenced to prison until the King shall decide. This sentence was not given in his presence, but to his two proctors. This he will not find easy of digestion, but worse remains behind (mais encoures ne serat il quicte pour le prix).
25 Oct.
MS. 5,499,
p. 186.
Bibl. Nat.
You will see by the letters sent by Francis what he has said to La Chault about the ratification of the peace, which has been sworn in accordance with the last treaty. Advises him not to show the letters. Has received his packet of the 17th, to which answer will be made in two or three days. Your brother or some one else will be sent in your place. Meanwhile the bailly of Senlis will be ordered to come, to whom I am writing again to send him immediately afterwards from thence. Paris, 25 Oct.
Assures him that he shall not remain more than three weeks in England. Wishes for his presence as soon as possible in case the Bishop die.
Fr., pp. 2. From a transcript.
26 Oct.
R. O.
Decree of the Council, 26 Oct. 21 Hen. VIII., at the request of certain artificers, Englishmen, who had reported that tailors, cordwainers, and other strangers artificers had refused to abide by the decree of the Council dated 15 Feb. 20 Hen. VIII.
Pp. 3. Mem. on the dorse: "Henry Vayne, esquire, sworn and examined this 28th of October, anno 21, being of the age of 60 and above, upon interrogat[ories] to him ministered."
26 Oct. 6029. THOS. TRETHURFFE.
His will, 20 Sept. 20 Hen. VIII. Proved, 26 Oct. 1529. Printed in Nicolas' Testamenta Vetusta, p. 643.
27 Oct.
Le Grand, III.
Not much has happened since my letters of the 23rd. After the Cardinal had been deprived of the seal, and all his goods placed in the King's hands, which are valued at 500,000 crowns, he was ordered to retire to an episcopal mansion, eight leagues hence, to await the King's pleasure. Norfolk has been made chief of the Council, and in his absence Suffolk, who has had his mules, and Master More, chancellor, leaving the Chancery of Lancaster to Master Feuvillem (Fitzwilliam). They are beginning to assemble for the Parliament from all parts of the country, during which the King will occupy the house which belonged to the Cardinal. He is coming to see it today to arrange for his residence. I think the King will leave him York, with a portion of his goods, and not treat him worse. If it be so, and if these Lords do not agree, as I expect they will not, it is not improbable that he will regain his authority, so I think it will not be bad policy to grant his request, which in no case can do harm. I forbear to urge again my recall, feeling sure that you have done your best for me; but I am astonished that since I began to urge it. you have given me no answer. London, 27 Oct.
French. Add.
27 Oct.
Rym. XIV. 349.
Appointment by cardinal Wolsey of John Scuse and Christopher Jenny as his attorneys. Westm., 27 Oct. 21 Hen. VIII.
Close Roll, 21 Hen. VIII. m. 14d.
27 Oct.
R. O.
St. P. VII. 210.
6032. HACKET to TUKE.
I have given Rossynboix and John de Lassaux a letter from my Lord, and another to you, with the news from Dutchland. Francis ratified the peace on the 20th, and D'Humières is to deliver Hédin on the 5 Nov. On the 22d a publication was made in the Emperor's name for all New Testaments in French, Dutch, and English to be brought in, and no heretical books to be printed henceforth. All male heretics shall be "justyssyth" with the sword, and if any woman be faulty to be "qwyk bride" (buried), with many other good articles contained in the said publication. Brussels, 27 Oct. 1529.
Hol. Add. Endd.
28 Oct.
R. O.
Is at Tykford. When he has finished the lands belonging to the late monastery there, and the priory of Bradwell, will attend on him in London. The bearer, the late prior of Tykford, desires to be recommended to Cromwell for promotion. Mr. Whalley's officer has received the rents of Tykford manor. 28 Aug.
Hol., p. 1. Add.: To, &c., Mr. Crumwell. Sealed.
29 Oct.
R. O.
Asks him and Rushe to call before them Dame Anne Caston, and make her cease her exclamation for the lease of Panyngton. She is void of all reason, set all upon wilfulness. She complains that she is owed for the work of her cart and for loads of heath, which is entered in the books of the works, and shall be paid.
She complains also that their cattle have eaten up her pasture since last Lady Day. Had no cattle till Midsummer; and if they have eaten her pasture, it is because she will not fence it.
Asks him to pacify her, for her exclamations grieve him more than the land is worth. Veysey distressed all his tenants at Hyntilsham, and kept their cattle to the value of 40l. Was fain to replevin them out, which cost 9s. or 10s., and yet the sheriff's officers were obliged to break his doors before he would deliver them. Two days after he got 10 or 12 men with bows and arrows, and fetched them back again. He has sold some, and told the tenants openly that now my lord Cardinal was not worthy to wipe his horses' feet, with other opprobrious words.
Wishes him and Audely to decide whether his lease be good or no. Those who heard Veysey speak were Rob. Clay, John Cooke, and others. Gippiswiche, 29 Oct. Signed.
P. 1. Add.: To the right worshipful Mr. Thos. Cromwell.
30 Oct.
Roll, Mich.
21 Hen. VIII.
Rot. 36.
R. O.
Bill of indictment preferred by Chr. Hales, attorney-general, against cardinal Wolsey, on the 9th Oct. 21 Hen. VIII., at Westminster, for having procured bulls from Clement VII. to make himself Legate, contrary to the statute of 16 Ric. II.; which bulls he published at Westm., 28 Aug. 15 Hen. VIII., and thereupon assumed and exercised the office of Legate; by virtue of which, on 27 July 21 Hen. VIII., he conferred upon James Gorton, clerk, the parish church of Stoke Gylford, Surrey, Winchester dioc., void by the death of Andrew Swynno, although Robert, prior of St. Pancras, Lewes, was the true patron. He also caused the wills of various persons dying in other dioceses than his own to be proved before his commissioners, instituted legatine visitations, and procured for himself surreptitiously several large pensions from various abbots by virtue of his legatine authority. He was accordingly attached, and the sheriff was commanded to produce him in the King's Bench on Saturday after the month of Michaelmas.
On that day John Scuse and Chr. Genney produced a writ, by virtue of which they were admitted attornies for the Cardinal, who appointed them as such on the 27th Oct. They pleaded on the Cardinal's behalf that he did not know the obtaining of the bulls to be in contempt and prejudice of the King, or against any statute of provisors, but threw himself upon the King's mercy. Judgment was ultimately given that the Cardinal should be out of the King's protection, and forfeit to the King all his lands and goods.
"Postea Trin. 22do H. VIII. habet cartam allocationis pro præmissis, &c."
Ibid. Rot. 37. 2. Another bill of indictment, similar to the preceding in all respects, except in the under-mentioned particulars. It was preferred by Chr. Hales, attorney-general, on the 20 Oct. 21 Hen. VIII.
By virtue of his legatine authority, Wolsey had, on the 2 Dec. 15 Hen. VIII., conferred the parish church of Galbye, Leic., Linc. dioc., void by the death of Ric. Woderoffe, on John Alyn, LL.D., now archbishop of Dublin, although the master and brethren of the hospital of Burton St. Lazer, Leic., were the true patrons.
30 Oct.
R. O.
Ellis, 3 Ser.
II. 171.
Is anxious to know how he is treated in this sudden overthrow of my lord his master; "and like as a true heart is never overthrown with no tempest, like so cannot the same in your trouble but be now much more thristye to know your state, and more greedy to show you, if it were possible by works, how much it coveteth to serve you." Were not our governor dead, I would see you, whatever trouble it cost. Doubts not Cromwell's truth and wisdom will preserve him from danger. "You are more hated for your master's sake than for anything which I think you have wrongfully done against any man." Wished very much to tell him before he left London how much he feared what has come to pass, but durst not write it. Antwerp, 30 Oct. 1529.
Hol., p. 1. Add.: To Master Crumwell in London.
31 Oct.
R. O.
Thanks him for the trouble he has taken for him, and desires him to continue to intercede for him with my lord's Grace. The Barons of the Exchequer have taken surety for him to appear the morrow of Martinmas, but he remains in ward. All Hallow Even.
Hol., p. 1. Add.: To the right worshipful Mr. Crumwell.
Oct./GRANTS. 6038. GRANTS in OCTOBER 1529.
2. Walter Hungerforde, squire of the Body. Licence to alienate the manor of Heightesbury Estcourte, with certain land, and 40s. rent, in Heightredesbury alias Heightesbury Estcourte, Wilts, to Wm. lord Sandes, the King's chamberlain, Sir John Bourchier, Sir Wm. Stourton, Sir John Seymour, John Bonham, Thos. Gifford, and Thos. Westley; to hold to them and the heirs of the said Thos. Westley for ever. Westm., 2 Oct.—Pat. 21 Hen. VIII. p. 1, m. 5.
2. Walter Hungerford, squire of the Body. Licence to alienate the manors of Chippenham, Sheldon, and Buddesdon, with certain land, and 100s. rent, in the said places; also the hundreds of Chippenham, Bishopesden, and Donlowe, Wilts, to Hen. marquis of Exeter, Thos. earl of Rutland, Wm. lord Sandes, Sir Thos. Cheyne, Sir Ric. Sandes, Hen. White, and Ric. Andrewes; to hold to them and the heirs of the said Hen. White for ever. Westm., 2 Oct.—Pat. 21 Hen. VIII. p. 1, m. 5.
8. Geo. Frauncys. To be customer of the ports of Plymouth and Fowey, vice Hen. Harford. Del. Westm., 8 Oct. 21 Hen. VIII.—S.B.
8. Wm. Thynne, chief clerk of the kitchen. To be receiver-general of the earldom of March; also keeper of Gately park, in Wigmoresland, vice Sir Edw. Crofte. Windsor, 8 Oct. 21 Hen. VIII. Del. Westm., same day.—P.S. Pat. P. 1. m. 11._Vacated on surrender, 5 May 38 Hen. VIII., in order to grant a fresh patent to the said Wm. and John Thynne.
9. John Screven and Christina his wife. Licence to alienate the reversion of the third part of a messuage, a water-mill, 140 acres of land, 40 acres of meadow, 30 acres of pasture, and 12 acres of wood, in Gotehall, Somers., now held by Geo. Lynde and Mary his wife, during the life of the said Mary, to Ric. Long, Wm. Hambrigge, Ric. Stone, and Robt. Compton, and the heirs of the said Ric. Long for ever. Westm., 9 Oct.—Pat. 21 Hen. VIII. p. 1, m. 8.
9. Robt. Cheltenham, yeoman, of South Harting, Suss. Pardon. Del. Westm., 9 Oct. 21 Hen. VIII.—S.B.
10. Peter Bawde, King's gunner in the Tower of London. Pension of 16d. a dayfrom 1 Sept. 20 Hen. VIII. Westm., 10 Oct.—Pat. 21 Hen. VIII. p. 1, m. 10.
13. The staple of wool, hides, fleeces, and lead at Exeter. Assent to the election of Robt. Buller as mayor, and John Blackaller and John Wolcote as constables of the said staple. Westm., 13 Oct.—Pat. 21 Hen. VIII. p. 2, m. 2.
13. The staple of wool, hides, fleeces, and lead at Bristol. Assent to the election of John Shipman as mayor, and John Edwardes and Ric. Tonell as constables of the said staple. Westm., 13 Oct.—Pat. 21 Hen. VIII. p. 2, m. 2.
14. Isabella abbess of Wilton. Grant (in accordance with the statute 1 Hen. VIII.) of a capital messuage and two hides of land in Staunton aforesaid, (fn. 3) and a tenement and a messuage in Staunton. The Abbess is to render an account of the issues. Anth. and Ric. Nevyll, sureties. Westm., 14 Oct.—Pat. 21 Hen. VIII. p. 2, m. 25.
14. John Gough. To have, jointly with the present holder, Wm. Hoggeson, the corrody in the monastery of Chichester. Woodstock, 26 Aug. 21 Hen. VIII. Del. Westm., 14 Oct.—P.S.
15. John Cowland, mercer, of London. Protection; going in the retinue of Sir Robt. Wingfield. Windsor Castle, 12 Oct. 21 Hen. VIII. Del. Westm., 15 Oct.—P.S.
16. Robt. Robson, salter, of London. Protection; going in the retinue of Sir Robt. Wingfield. Windsor Castle, 15 Oct. 21 Hen. VIII. Del. Westm., 16 Oct.—P.S.
19. Barnard Tunbroke, native of the bishopric of Cologne. Denization. Westm., 19 Oct.—Pat. 21 Hen. VIII. p. 1, m. 13.
22. Cambridgeshire: Commission to Sir Wm. Gascoygn, Walter Luke, Hen. Barley, Thos. Hatton, and Thos. Pygott to make inquisition p. m. on the lands and heir of Francis Haselden. Westm., 22 Oct.—Pat. 21 Hen. VIII. p. 2, m. 18d.
24. Wm. Heton, "girdeler," of London. Protection; going in the retinue of Sir Robt. Wingfield. Greenwich, 24 Oct. 21 Hen. VIII. No date of delivery.—P.S.
29. Robt. Ordwey, yeoman, of Worcester. Protection; going in the retinue of Sir Robt. Wingfield. Windsor Castle, 19 Oct. 21 Hen. VIII. Del. Westm., 29 Oct.—P.S.


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  • 2. He was uncle to Ann Boleyn.
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