Journal of the House of Lords: Volume 3, 1620-1628. Originally published by His Majesty's Stationery Office, London, 1767-1830.
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Die Lunæ, videlicet, 8 die Martii,
Abuse of the Sabbath.
L. Archbp. of Cant.
E. of South'ton.
L. Viscount Wallingford.
L. Bp. of Winchester.
L. Say et Seale.
Mr. Justice Chamberlaine,
Mr. Justice Crooke,
|To attend their Lordships.|
Against prophane Swearing.
To explain Part of an Act for Discovery of Popish Recusants.
Hodie 1a vice lecta est Billa, An Act for the Explanation of a Branch of the Statute, made in the Third Year of the King's Majesty's Reign of England, intituled, An Act for the better discovering of Popish Recusants.
Limitation of Actions, and avoiding Suits in Law.
For Relief against Informations.
Subject to plead the General Issue.
Hodie 1a vice lecta est Billa, An Act to admit the Subject to plead the General Issue in Informations of Intrusion, brought on the Behalf of the King's Majesty, and to retain his Possession till Trial.
E. of Oxford.
E. of Essex.
L. Bp. of Duresme.
L. Bp. of Rochester.
L. St. John of Bletso.
Mr. Attorney General,
Mr. Serjeant Crooke,
|To attend their Lordships.|
Exchange between the Prince and Sir Lewis Watson.
The Lord President reported the Bill, An Act for Confirmation of an Exchange of Lands, between the most Excellent Prince Charles and Sir Lewes Watson, Knight and Baronet, fit to pass; whereupon it is Ordered, The same Bill to be ingrossed.
Report from the Committee, who, with another of the Commons, lately attended the King.
The Lord Archbishop of Cant. reported, That his Grace, accompanied with the rest of the Committee of this House, and a Committee of the Commons, did, on Friday last, deliver unto the King's Majesty (at Theobalds) the Advice of the Lords and Commons touching the Treaties of the Prince's Match, and of the Palatinate, according as his Grace was enjoined, and in the same Form as was agreed on by a Committee of both Houses, and here approved of, in hæc verba:
Advice of both Houses to the King, concerning Treaties with Spain.
"And First, they and we do give most humble and hearty Thanks unto Almighty God, that, out of His gracious Goodness, He hath been pleased now at last to dispel that Cloud and Mist, which, for so many Years, hath dimmed the Eyes of a great Part of Christendom in that Business whereof we do now consult.
"And Secondly, we acknowledge ourselves most bound unto Your Majesty, that You have been pleased to require the humble Advice of us, Your obedient Subjects, in a Cause so important as this, which hitherto dependeth between Your Majesty and the King of Spaine, which we jointly offer, from both Houses, no One Person therein dissenting or disagreeing from the rest.
"And that is, That, upon mature Consideration, and weighing many Particulars of sundry Natures, finding so much Want of Sincerity in all their Proceedings, we, super totam materiam, present this our humble Advice unto Your Majesty, That the Treaties, both for the Marriage and for the Palatinate, may not any longer be continued, with the Honour of Your Majesty, the Safety of Your People, the Welfare of Your Children and Posterity, as also the Assurance of Your ancient Allies and Confederates."
"I have Cause first to thank God, with My Heart and all the Faculties of My Mind, that My Speech, which I delivered in Parliament, hath taken so good Effect amongst you, as that, with an unanimous Consent, you have freely and speedily given Me your Advice in this great Business, for which I also thank you all as heartily as I can.
"I also give My particular Thanks to the Gentlemen of the Lower House, for that I heard, when some amongst you would have cast Jealousies and Doubts between Me and My People, you presently quelled those Motions, which otherwise might have hindered the happy Agreement I hope to find in this Parliament.
"You give Me your Advice to break off both the Treaties, as well concerning the Match as the Palatinate; and now give Me Leave, as an old King, to propound My Doubts, and hereafter to give you My Answer.
"First, it is true, that I, who have been all the Days of My Life a Peaceable King, and have had the Honour in my Titles and Impresses to be stiled "Rex Pacificus," should without Necessity imbroil Myself in War, is so far from My Nature, and from the Honour which I have had at Home and Abroad in endeavouring to avoid the Effusion of Christian Blood (of which too much hath been shed, and so much against My Heart), that, unless it be upon such a Necessity, that I may call it, as some say merrily of Women, malum necessarium, I should be loth to enter into it.
"And I must likewise acquaint you, that I have had no small Hopes given Me of obtaining better Conditions for the Restitution of the Palatinate, and that even since the Sitting down of the Parliament: But be not jealous, nor think Me such a King that would, under Pretext of asking your Advice, put a Scorn upon you, by disdaining and rejecting it. For you remember, that, in My first Speech unto you, for Proof of My Love to My People, I craved your Advice in these great and weighty Affairs; but, in a Matter of this Weight, I must first consider how this Course may agree with My Conscience and Honour; and next (according to the Parable uttered by Our Saviour), after I have resolved of the Necessity and Justness of the Cause, to consider, how I shall be enabled to raise Forces for this Purpose.
"As concerning the Case of My Children, I am now old, and would be glad, as Moses saw the Land of Promise from a high Mountain (though he had not Leave to set his Foot in it), so would it be a great Comfort to Me, that God would but so long prolong My Days, as, if I might not see the Restitution, yet at least to be assured that it would be; that then I might, with old Simeon, say, Nuns dimittis servum tuum, Domine, etc. otherwise it would be a great Regret unto Me, and I should die with a heavy and discomforted Heart.
"I have often said, and particularly in the last Parliament, and I shall be ever of that Mind, that, as I am not ambitious of any other Men's Goods or Lands, so I desire not to brook a Furrow of Land in England, Scotland, or Ireland, without Restitution of the Palatinate; and in this Mind I will live and die.
"I must let you know, that My Disabilities are increased by the Charge of My Son's Journey into Spaine, which I was at for his Honour, and the Honour of this Nation; by sending of Ambassadors; by Maintenance of My Children, and by assisting of the Palatinate, I have incurred a great Debt to the King of Denmarke, which I am not yet able to pay.
"For the Navy, I thank God, it is now in better Case than ever it was; yet more must be done, and, before it can be prepared as it ought to be, it will require a new Charge, as well for (fn. 1) its own Strength as for securing My Coasts.
"My Customs are the best Part of My Revenue, and, in Effect, the Substance of all I have to live on; all which are farmed out, upon that Condition, That, if there be War, those Bargains are to be annulled; which will enforce a great Defalcation.
"I will deal frankly with you. Shew Me the Means how I may do what you would have Me; and if I take a Resolution, upon your Advice, to enter into a War, then yourselves, by your own Deputies, shall have the disposing of the Money; I will not meddle with it; but you shall appoint your own Treasurers.
"I say not this with a Purpose to invite you to open your Purses, and then to slight you so much as not to follow your Counsel. For I will not take your Money unless I take your Counsel, nor engage you before I be engaged Myself. Give Me what you will for My own Means: But, I protest, none of the Money which you shall give for those Uses shall be issued but for those Ends, and by Men elected by yourselves.
"If, upon your Offer, I shall find the Means to make the War honourable and safe, and that I resolve to embrace your Advice; then I promise you, in the Word of a King, that, although War and Peace be the peculiar Prerogatives of Kings, yet, as I have advised with you in the Treaties on which War may ensue, so I will not treat nor accept of a Peace without first acquainting you with it, and hearing your Advice; and therein go the proper Way of Parliament, in conferring and consulting with you in such great and weighty Affairs; and haply Conditions of Peace will be the better when We are prepared for War, according to the old Proverb, That Weapons boad Peace.
"Your kind Carriage gives Me much Contentment; and that comforts Me which my Lord of Canterbury said, There was not a contrary Voice amongst you all; like the Seventy Interpreters, who were led by the Breath of God.
"I am so desirous to forget all Rends in former Parliaments, that it shall not be (fn. 2) My Default, if I be not in Love with Parliaments, and call them often, and desire to end My Life in that Intercourse between Me and My People, for the making of good Laws, reforming of such Abuses as I cannot be well informed of but in Parliament, and maintaining the good Government of the Commonwealth.
Earl of Holderness's Privilege. Scott's Arrest.
Whereas Robert Playle, an Under-Bailiff of the Sanctuary at Westm. was, by Order of the Second of this March, committed to The Fleet, for the Arrest of John Scott, a known Servant of the Earl of Holdernes; the said Robert this Day exhibited his Petition to the House, humbly confessing his Fault, and craving his Liberty, and that Wm. Fawcett the Plaintiff, who caused the Arrest, may bear his Charges.