House of Lords Journal Volume 3: 17 June 1628

Pages 859-861

Journal of the House of Lords: Volume 3, 1620-1628. Originally published by His Majesty's Stationery Office, London, 1767-1830.

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DIE Martis, videlicet, 17 die Junii,

Domini tam Spirituales quam Temporales, quorum nomina subscribuntur, præsentes fuerunt:

Archiepus. Cant.
Archiepus. Eborum.
Epus. London.
Epus. Dunelm.
Epus. Winton.
Epus. Petriburgen.
Epus. Hereforden.
Epus. Wigorn.
Epus. Norwicen.
Epus. Roffen.
Epus. Co. et Lich.
Epus. Bangor.
Epus. Cicestren.
Epus. Oxon.
Epus. Cestren.
Epus. Meneven.
Epus. Lincoln.
Epus. Sarum.
Epus. Bath. et W.
Epus. Bristol.
Epus. Asaphen.
Epus. Gloucestren.
Epus. Carliol.
Epus. Exon.
Epus. Landaven.
Ds. Coventrey, Ds. Custos Mag. Sigilli.
Comes Marleborough, Mag. Thesaur. Angliæ.
Comes Maunchester, Præsidens Concilii Domini Regis.
Dux Buckingham, Mag. Admirallus Angliæ.
Marchio Winton.
Comes Lindsey, Mag. Camerar. Angliæ.
Comes Arundell et Surr. Comes Maresc. Angliæ.
Comes Pembroc, Senesc. Hospitii.
Comes Mountgomery, Camerar. Hospitii.
Comes Oxon.
Comes Northumbriæ.
Comes Salop.
Comes Kantii.
Comes Derbiæ.
Comes Wigorn.
Comes Rutland.
Comes Cumbriæ.
Comes Sussex.
Comes Huntingdon.
Comes Bath.
Comes South'ton.
Comes Bedford.
Comes Hertford.
Comes Essex.
Comes Lincoln.
Comes Nottingham.
Comes Suffolciæ.
Comes Dorsett.
Comes Sarum.
Comes Exon.
Comes Bridgwater.
Comes Leicestriæ.
Comes North'ton.
Comes Warwic.
Comes Devon.
Comes Cantabr.
Comes Carlile.
Comes Denbigh.
Comes Bristol.
Comes Angles.
Comes Holland.
Comes Clare.
Comes Bolingbrooke.
Comes Westmerland.
Comes Banbury.
Comes Berk.
Comes Cleveland.
Comes Mulgrave.
Comes Danby.
Comes Tottnes.
Comes Monmouth.
Comes Norwich.
Comes Rivers.
Comes Sunderland.
Comes Newcastle.
Comes Dover.
Comes Petriburgh.
Comes Standford.
Vicecomes Mountague.
Vicecomes Purbeck.
Vicecomes Tunbridge.
Vicecomes Say et Seale.
Vicecomes Wimbleton.
Vicecomes Savage.
Vicecomes Conway.
Vicecomes Newarke.
Vicecomes Bayninge.
Vicecomes Campden.
Ds. Clifford.
Ds. Abergavenny.
Ds. Audley.
Ds. Percy.
Ds. Strange.
Ds. Delawarr.
Ds. Berkley.
Ds. Morley.
Ds. Dacres.
Ds. Dudley.
Ds. Stourton.
Ds. Darcy.
Ds. Vaux.
Ds. Windore.
Ds. St. John de Bas.
Ds. Cromewell.
Ds. Evre.
Ds. Pagett.
Ds. North.
Ds. Compton.
Ds. Wootton.
Ds. Petre.
Ds. Spencer.
Ds. Stanhope de Harr.
Ds. Arundell.
Ds. Stanhope de Sh.
Ds. Noel.
Ds. Kymbolton.
Ds. Newnham.
Ds. Brooke.
Ds. Mountague.
Ds. Grey.
Ds. Deyncourt.
Ds. Ley.
Ds. Robarts.
Ds. Conway.
Ds. Vere.
Ds. Tregoze.
Ds. Carleton.
Ds. Tufton.
Ds. Craven.
Ds. Mountioy.
Ds. Fawconbridge.
Ds. Lovelace.
Ds. Pawlett.
Ds. Harvy.
Ds. Brudnell.
Ds. Maynard.
Ds. Howard.
Ds. Weston.
Ds. Goringe.
Ds. Mohun.

Dr. Hampden's Privilege.

ORDERED, Valentine Day presently to appear here, at his Peril, before the Lords, to answer a Petition exhibited to their Lordships, by George Hampden, Doctor in Divinity, One of His Majesty's Chaplains in Ordinary. The Complaint was touching the Proceedings against Doctor Hampden at the Common Law, during his Waiting Month before the King.

Bp. of Worcester's Privilege.

Fyges's Arrest.

The Writ of Habeas Corpus cum Causa, etc. granted 9 Junii, for Allen Fyges, Servant to the Bishop of Worcester, was this Day returned, and read. By which it appeared, That he was Prisoner in The Fleet, 19° Jacobi, and had Leave to go into the Country upon Bonds, etc. where he became privileged by the Bishop of Worcester's Service, and was now again arrested, in Time of Privilege. The Lords denied him Privilege, and remitted him to Prison again.

Subsidy Bill of the Temporalty.

The Lords were put in Mind of the Exception to the Bill of Subsidy, for naming the Commons only in the Grant thereof, and omitting the Lords; and of the Conference agreed to be had with the Commons this Day, concerning the same.

Whereupon a Message was sent to the Commons, by Mr. Attorney General, and Sir Edward Salter:

Message to the H. C. for Conference concerning the Lords not being mentioned in the Preamble of this Bill.

That the Lords desire a present Conference, in the Painted Chamber, by a Committee of both Houses, about some Matters which may tend to the Preservation of good Correspondency between both Houses.


They will attend presently.

Agreed, That the Lord Keeper shall signify unto the Commons at this Conference "the great Care the Lords have had, all this Parliament, to continue a good Correspondency between both Houses, which is best done when nothing is intrenched upon either House. To shew them, That, in the Front of the Bill of Subsidies, which they lately sent up, the Commons are only named; whereas in many Precedents (but only in the last Parliament) it is,

"[We Your Majesty's most humble and loyal Subjects, in Your High Court of Parliament assembled, etc.] neither naming the Lords nor yet the Commons: That the Lords conceived this rather to have happened by some Slip, than done of set Purpose, To move them, that the Word ["Commons"] may be struck out; for as the Commons give their Subsidies for themselves and for the Representative Body of the Kingdom, so the Lords have the Disposition of their own."

D. of Bucks moves the House that the Name of the Member who scandalized him may be declared to the H. C.

The Duke of Buckingham signified to the Lords, That one Mr. Lewkenour, a Member of the House of Commons, is the Party that spake these scandalous Words of his Grace, which he told them of Yesterday; and that Mr. Lewkenour hath acknowledged to his Grace, that he spake those Words of him, but would not name his Author. And his Grace moved their Lordships, That this might be declared unto the Commons at this Conference; and they to be moved to cause Lewkenour to produce his Author; which was respited till the other Matter concerning the Bill of Subsidy be settled.

The House was adjourned during Pleasure, and the Lords went to the Conference.


Memorandum, That, at this Conference, the Commons prayed they might propound this Motion of the Lords touching the Subsidy Bill unto their House; and they hoped speedily to return, and give their Lordships an Answer.

The Lords being returned from the Conference, the House was resumed.

Sir Robert Ayton's Naturalization. Expedit.

Hodie 3a vice lecta est Billa, An Act for the Naturalizing of Sir Robert Ayton, Knight.

Put to the Question, and Expedited.

Astley's Ditto. Expedit.

Hodie 3a vice lecta est Billa, An Act for the Naturalizing of Four Sons of Sir Jacob Asteley, Knight.

Put to the Question, and Expedited.

Duke of Bucks renews his Motion touching the Scandal against him.

The Duke of Buckingham moved the House again, That, after the Conference with the Commons (at their Return), touching the Amendment of the Subsidy Bill, he might make the like Protestation unto the Commons, as he had made here, touching these scandalous Speeches of his Grace by Mr. Lewkenour; and then to leave it to them to proceed therein as they please. His only Endeavour is to stand right in their Opinion.

L. Keeper to intimate the Duke's Desire to the Commons at the Conference.

Agreed, That, in respect of the Shortness of the Time limited for this Session, the Lord Keeper may, at the End of the said Conference, intimate the Duke's Desire unto the Commons.

Message from the Commons, by Sir Edward Cooke and others:

Message from the H. C. touching the Preamble to the Subsidy Bill of the Temporalty.

That there is nothing more desired by that House than the good Concurrence between the Lords and them, which they esteem an Earthly Paradise. They have entered into Consideration of the Preposition, to omit the Words ["the Commons"] in the Subsidy Bill, which they find to be a Matter of greater Consequence than can be suddenly resolved on. But To-morrow Morning they will consider of it, and return an Answer, with all the convenient Speed they can.

E. of Arundel's Bill. Expedit.

Hodie allata est a Domo Communi Billa, concerning the Earl of Arundell. Returned, with some small literal Amendments, which were read 1a, 2a, et 3a vice.

Put to the Question, and Exped.

Subsidy Bill of the Temporalty. Expedit.

Hodie 3a vice lecta est Billa, An Act for the Grant of Five Entire Subsidies, granted by the Temporalty.

Act of Grace.

The King's General Pardon is to be First read Tomorrow Morning.

Committee to draw up Dr. Manwaring's Submission.

The Committee, which was formerly appointed to examine Witnesses touching Doctor Manwaringe, are now to pen the Submission and Acknowledgement which he is to make in Writing.

Lady Molineux's Petition.

Ordered, The Lady Molineux's Petition is referred to the Committee for Petitions; and Sir Francis Clerke is to attend on Thursday next.

Halnes versus Parham et al.

Ordered, John Parham, Edward Popley, Thomas Crouch, and Richard Morris, are to attend, or send their Counsel, to answer the Complaint of Thomas Haynes.


Dominus Custos Magni Sigilli declaravit præsens Parliamentum continuandum esse usque in diem crastinum, videlicet, diem Mercurii, 18m diem instantis Junii, hora 9a, Dominis sic decernentibus.