House of Lords Journal Volume 4: 30 April 1641

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Journal of the House of Lords: Volume 4, 1629-42. Originally published by His Majesty's Stationery Office, London, 1767-1830.

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DIE Veneris, videlicet, 30 die Aprilis.


Master of the Ship stayed.

Edward Clements, Master of Mr. Slyngsby's Ship, was called in, and commanded by this House that he depart not with his Ship out of the River of Thames, without Leave of the Lord Admiral; and so he and Robert Clements were discharged from further Attendance upon this House for this Business.

Oneil's Order referred.

Upon reading the humble Petition of Daniell Oneile, it was Ordered, That his said Petition shall be referred to the Committee for Petitions; and that a Copy of the said Petition be sent or delivered unto the Parties interested therein, with good convenient Time to return an Answer, or shew Cause why it should not be proceeded in before the Lords Committees accordingly.

Ordered, That the Earl of St. Albanes and the Earl of Portland be added to the Committee for Petitions.

Report of His Majesty's Answer about the Irish Army.

Then the Speaker reported the Answer which His Majesty gave to both Houses of Parliament, at Whitehall, in The Banquetting House, concerning the disbanding of the new Irish Army, the disarming of Recusants according to Law, and removing of Papists from the Court, especially Mr. Walter Mountague, Sir Kenelme Digby, Sir Toby Matthewes, and Sir Jo. Winter: videlicet,

"That His Majesty, having heard of the Three Desires made unto Him by both Houses, gave this short and clear Answer:

"1. Concerning Removal of Papists from Court:

"His Majesty said, He was confident you know very well what legal Trust the Crown hath in this Particular; therefore He should only need to assure you that He shall govern it so, that there shall be no just Cause of Scandal.

"2. He is contented that the Papists be disarmed, according to Law.

"3. For the Irish Army:

"He told your Lordships you must understand, that He was already upon the disbanding of them, but finds many Difficulties in the Way of doing it; therefore it is not only requisite to wish it, but to snew the Way how it shall be done. And therefore in this He shall not be unwilling to have your Advice and Assistance. But this is not all that He desired; for He said He doth wish that the same Peace and Tranquillity be restored in His Dominions, which His Father, of Happy Memory, left Him; and to that End, He desired both Houses, according to that Duty which they owe to God and the Country, That they would concur with Him for the speedy disbanding of the Two other Armies that are in England; to which End there are Two Things requisite, Money and the Conclusion of the Scotts Treaty.

"He was sure both Houses are Masters of the One, and with Him they are Judges of the Other; this being a fitting Time for His Majesty to put them in Mind of it, because they have now all the Treaty before them; assuring that none shall shew more Industry and Willingness for the settling of all Things in a peaceable Way, than His Majesty."

Order to the Lieut. of The Tower about the E. of Strafford.

The House being informed, that the Lieutenant of The Tower was without, he was called in; and desired to receive Directions from this House what he shall do to obey the former Orders of this House, made for admitting Persons to come and speak with the Earl of Strafforde.

The Lieutenant withdrew, and the House took it into Consideration; and, for Debate thereof, the House was adjourned into a Committee during Pleasure; and the House being resumed, the Order made Yesterday was read, and Ordered to be confirmed, and the Lieutenant of The Tower to have a Copy sent him.

Lieut. of The Tower to deliver the E. of Strafford's Petitions.

Memorandum, It was the Intention of the House, that, if the Earl of Strafford have any Occasion to petition this House, that the Lieutenant of The Tower is to see his Petition delivered; and this House will take such Order therein as shall be fit.

The Cause of Sutton Marsh heard.

After this, Counsel of the Lord Herbert and others, and the Earl of March, proceeded in the Cause concerning Sutton Marsh, and opened the Evidence.

Questions to be propounded to the Speaker first.

And it was Ordered, That, if any Lord desire to have a Question asked, it must be propounded to the Speaker first.

It being now late, it was Ordered, That this Cause concerning Sutton Marsh shall be further heard, by Counsel on both Sides, in the Afternoon, at Two a Clock, at which Time all Parties are to attend who are now present.

Committee for Subsidies.

Ordered, That the Committee for the Subsidies do meet this Afternoon, at Four a Clock; and the Committee for Banbury To-morrow in the Afternoon, at Two a Clock.

Vicarage of Banbury.

The Committee concerning the Jurisdiction of the Vicarage of Banbury is appointed to meet To-morrow, at Two a Clock in the Afternoon.


Dominus Capitalis Justiciarius de Communi Banco, Locum tenens Domini Custodis Magni Sigilli, declaravit præsens Parliamentum continuandum esse usque in post meridiem hujus diei, hora 2a, Dominis sic decernentibus.

Post meridiem.


The Cause for Sutton Marsh heard and put off till Wednesday next.

The Counsel of the Lord Phillip Herbert and others proceeded in opening their Evidence, in the Cause concerning Sutton Marsh, the Counsel of the Earl of March being present; but, it being late, it was Ordered, That this Cause should be heard again on Wednesday next, in the Morning, in this House; and all Witnesses and Parties that are now present are then to attend; and it was further Ordered, That Jo. Tylson, being now in the Custody of the Gentleman Usher for Contempt of the Orders of this House, be discharged.

Committee for the Subsidy.

Ordered, That the Committee for rating of the Subsidy do meet To-morrow Morning, at Eight a Clock.


Dominus Capitalis Justiciarius de Communi Banco, Locum tenens Domini Custodis Magni Sigilli, declaravit præsens Parliamentum continuandum esse usque in diem Sabbati, videlicet, 1m diem Maii, hora 9a, Dominis sic decernentibus.