House of Lords Journal Volume 4: 29 July 1641

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Journal of the House of Lords: Volume 4, 1629-42. Originally published by His Majesty's Stationery Office, London, 1767-1830.

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DIE Jovis, videlicet, 29 die Julii.


Sir J Thynn's Bill.

Hodie 3a vice lecta est Billa, An Act for disforesting of certain Lands of Sir James Thynne's, Knight, Parcel of the Forest of Zelwood, alias Froome Selwood, in the County of Somersett; and, being put to the Question, it was agreed to pass, nemine contradicente.

Sir Robert Mansell.

Ordered, That Sir Robert Mannsell, Knight, have Notice to attend this House To-morrow Morning, concerning the Men that are in the Custody of the Gentleman Usher, upon his Petition to this House.

Rookwood to acknowledge his Fault against the Dutch Ambassador.

Ordered, That the Earl of Warwicke do go from this House to The States Ambassador, to know whether he hath any Thing further to object against Rookewood, why he should not be discharged out of Prison; if no new Matter be charged against the said Rookewod, then he is to make his Acknowledgement of his Fault and the Justice of this House upon him, at this Bar, and afterwards be released of his present Imprisonment.

Forsey's Cause dismissed.

Upon Report made this Day by the Lords Committees for Petitions, "That a Petition of John Forsey, concerning Sir John Hobbard, Knight and Baronet, Ant. Hobard, Gentleman, Henry Yaxley, and Francis Yaxley, had been considered of by their Lordships, and was thought fit to be dismissed;" it is Ordered, That the said Petition and Cause of the said Forsies shall be hereby dismissed this House accordingly.

Sir Geo. Radcliff, concerning Sir Richard Osbalston's Estate.

Upon Signification this Day unto the House, "That Sir George Radcliffe having been enjoined to assign over the Estate of Sir Richard Osbalston, Knight, by an Order of this House, did now humbly desire to be heard in Person before the Lords Committees for Petitions, touching the said Business, before he assign over the said Trust;" it is Ordered, That the said Lords Committees shall hereby have Power to send for him the said Sir George Radcliffe, to come before their Lordships, with his Keeper, when they shall appoint to hear the Business; at which Time the King's Counsel are to be present, and to make Answer to such Matters as shall concern His Majesty in that Cause.

Act-for Security of Religion rejected.

Hodie 2a vice lecta est Billa, An Act for the securing of the true Religion, the Safety and Honour of His Majesty's Person, the just Rights of the Subject, and the better Discovery and Punishment of Popish Recusants.

For the debating of this Bill, the House was adjourned into a Committee during Pleasure; and, after a long Debate, the House was resumed; and it was Resolved, by the major Part, That this Bill be rejected.

Message from the H. C. for a Conference, about disbanding the Armies.

A Message was brought from the House of Commons, by the Lord Phillip Herbert:

To desire a Conference, by a Committee of both Houses, touching the disbanding of both Armies.



That this House will give the House of Commons a Conference, at Four of the Clock this Afternoon, in the Painted Chamber.

Answer from the City of London, touching the Loan of 40,000 l.

After this, the Lord Mayor of London and the Aldermen, &c. were called in, to give an Answer to the Proposition for lending Forty Thousand Pounds; and (fn. 1) the Lord Mayor signified, "That he hath already prepared ready Thirty-four Thousand Five Hundred Pounds, Part of the Forty Thousand Pounds, and the full Sum will be made up this Night;" and fur ther he acquainted this House, "That he hath received Eighteen Thousand Pounds of the Poll-money;" for which Service, and Readiness in this Business, the Speaker gave the Lord Mayor and Aldermen and the rest Thanks from this House, and desired some of the Aldermen and Commons to be here this Afternoon.

Bishop of Ely to attend the Committee, concerning the Archbishop of Canterbury's Cause.

Ordered, That the Lord Bishop of Ely have Notice to attend the deputed Lords this Afternoon, at Three a Clock, to be examined concerning the Lord Archbishop of Cant.


Dominus Capitalis Justiciarius de Communi Banco, Locum tenens Domini Custodis Magni Sigilli, declaravit præsens Parliamentum continuandum esse usque in post meridiem hujus instantis diei, hora 4a, Dominis sic decernentibus.

Post meridiem.


Order about Auditor Worfield and his Wife.

Ordered, That Mr. Auditor Worfeild shall give Liberty unto the Earl of Dover, and Mr. Chute, to have free Access unto Mrs. Jane Worfeild (his Wife); and that she may prosecute her Cause in this House, by Petition or otherwise, or in any other His Majesty's Courts of Justice, touching and concerning the Inheritance of her Land, in such Form, and in the Names of such Persons, as by her Counsel she shall be advised, and at the Charges of the said Mr. Worfeild; and the said Mr. Worfeild, performing this Order, and giving Security to appear in this House, at such Time as he shall be warned thereunto, shall be freed of this present Restraint.

Chapel of Hoole Bill.

Hodie 2a vice lecta est Billa, An Act for the making of the Chapel of Hoole, in the County of Lancaster, a Parish Church, and no Part of the Parish of Croston.

Committed to these Lords following: videlicet,

L. Privy Seal.
Comes Bathon.
Comes Bollingbrooke.
Comes Dover.
Epus. Durham.
Epus. Lincolne.
Epus. Gloucester.
Epus. Hereford.
Ds. North.
Ds. Howard de Charlton.
Ds. Grey de Warke.
Ds. Pierpointe.
Ds. Dunsemore.
Ds. Herbert de Cherbery.

Their Lordships, or any Five, to meet on Tuesday Morning next, at Eight a Clock, in the Painted Chamber.

Sir Thomas Lake's Cause.

Ordered, That Sir Thomas Lake's Cause shall be heard on Tuesday next, in the Afternoon, before the Committee for Petitions.

Commonalty of London against the Ld. Mayor, &c. concerning the Election of Officers.

Upon reading the Petition of the Six Persons chosen by the Commonalty of London; it is Ordered by the Lords in Parliament, That the Lord Mayor of London shall have a Copy of their Petition; and that the said Six Persons shall have such Books, Records, and Accounts, brought into this House, as they shall have Use of; and in particular the Book of Reversions is to be produced with the rest, at the Hearing concerning the Officers of the City, and that so often as they shall have any Occasion of them; and, in the mean Time, to peruse and transcribe what they think fit out of the said Reversion Book, remaining in the Hands of their Lord Mayor or others.

The Earls of Bath and Bristoll were appointed to report the Conference.

Conference about disbanding the Armies, &c. reported.

The House was adjourned during Pleasure, and the Lords went to the Conference; which being ended, the House was resumed; and the Earl of Bathon reported, That the House of Commons, at this Conference, delivered to their Lordships Four Resolutions, which had passed their House.

"1. That the Ninth Day of August next shall be the Day appointed for the marching away of the Scotts Army.

"2. That the Money due for Relief of the Northern Counties is ready; and that, if they shall desire any reasonable Assistance for the conveying of it, they will be ready to assist them in the best Manner they can.

"3. The House of Commons desires that the English Lords Commissioners may move the Scotts Commissioners, to put off the Time for the Payment of the Eighty Thousand Pounds, Part of the Brotherly Assistance, till the First Day of September next; and that, notwithstanding, they will pay it sooner if they can.

"4. That, after that the Scotts have declared their Assents of disbanding, that then our Army shall be disbanded with all possible Speed; and the Horse to be first disbanded."

Treaty with the Scots to be prepared for a Conclusion.

Ordered, That this House doth agree with the House of Commons in all the aforesaid Resolutions; and do further Order, That the Lords Commissioners do resume the Treaty with the Scotts Commissioners, and prepare it for a Conclusion.

A Message was sent to the House of Commons, by Baron Henden and Dr. Bennett:

Message to the H. C. for a Conference, concerning the Loan from the City, and disbanding the Armies.

To desire a Conference, by a Committee of both Houses, touching the Loan of Forty Thousand Pounds from the City of London, and the late Conference touching the disbanding of both Armies.

Heads for the Conference.

The Lord Chamberlain and the Earl of Bristoll were appointed to speak at the Conference, and to let them know, "1. That this (fn. 2) House doth agree with them, in their Four Resolutions concerning the disbanding of both Armies.

"2. To desire that the select Committees of both Houses for the Ten Heads may meet, to finish and close up the Treaty with the Scotts.

"3. To let them know, that the City hath provided the Forty Thousand Pounds; for the Re-payment whereof they desire an Order of both Houses."

Answer returned was:

Answer from the H. C.

That the House of Commons will give a present Meeting, as is desired, in the Painted Chamber.

Conference reported.

The House was adjourned during Pleasure, and the Lords went to the Conference; which being ended, the House was resumed; and the Earl of Bristoll reported, "That he had delivered at the Conference (fn. 3) what he was commanded by this House."

Court of York, and Sir Rand. Crewe.

Ordered, That this House have a Conference Tomorrow Morning, with the House of Commons, touching the Court of Yorke and Sir Randall Crewe.

Burrell versus Burrell.

Ordered, That the Cause between Burrell and Burrell, depending now before the Lords Committees for Petitions, shall be heard in the open House at the Bar, as soon after Michaelmas as the Occasions of this House will permit; and hereof the Parties interested, and Witnesses, and others formerly appointed to appear in this Cause, are to have Notice given them by the Plaintiff; and then all Parties are to attend the said Hearing accordingly.

Andrews's Cause.

Ordered, That the Cause of Edward Andrewes, Esquire, shall be heard at the Bar, the next Day after the Day which shall be appointed for the Hearing of Burrell's Cause.


Dominus Capitalis Justiciarius de Communi Banco, Locum tenens Domini Custodis Magni Sigilli, declaravit præsens Parliamentum continuandum esse usque in diem Veneris, videlicet, 30m diem instantis Julii, hora nona, Dominis sic decernentibus.


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