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House of Lords Journal Volume 5: 18 February 1643

Pages 609-611

Journal of the House of Lords: Volume 5, 1642-1643. Originally published by His Majesty's Stationery Office, London, 1767-1830.

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DIE Sabbati, videlicet, 18 die Februarii.

PRAYERS.

Earl of Manchester was appointed to be Speaker this Day.

Lord Campden claims Privilege, in the Assessment.

Upon Information, "That the Lord Viscount Campden is assessed by the Lord Gray, to send Three Thousand Pounds, which he is not able to pay; therefore desires he may, as a Peer, enjoy the Privilege of a Peer, and (fn. 1) be assessed as other Lords are of his Condition:"

Ordered, That a Letter be written to the Lord Campden, to let him know what other Lords have lent; and another Letter to the Lord Grey; the Speaker to send these Letters. (Here enter the Letters.)

Speaker's Letter to Lord Campden, desiring he would contribute as others of his Rank have done.

"My Lord,

"The House having been informed, from your Lordship's Letter to the Earl of Pembrooke & Mountgomery, of a Demand of Three Thousand Pounds made by my Lord Grey, that your Lordship should contribute towards the defraying of the Charge of the Parliament Forces in those Parts, wherein your Lordship desireth some Direction from the House: Their Lordships have thereupon commanded me to give you this Intimation; videlicet, that others of your Lordship's Quality have severally contributed about the Sum of Two Thousand Pounds, for the Maintenance of this War, which is also expected from your Lordship; which they presume your Lordship will be ready to do. I have also herewith, by their like Command, desired my Lord Grey, that he would forbear to lay any Assessment upon your Lordship. Thus I rest,

"Your Lordship's Servant."

Speaker's Letter to Lord Grey, not to assess Lord Campden.

"My Lord,

"The House having been lately informed of your Lordship's Demand of Three Thousand Pounds of the Lord Viscount Campden, with Intimation of your Lordship's Intention to assess and levy the same in Case of his Refusal, they have therefore appointed me to write unto your Lordship, to forbear any Assessment upon his Lordship, for that they have directed me to write also to him, to do in this Particular as others of his Rank and Quality have formerly done; which Letters accordingly are sent unto his Lordship."

E. of Bath's Petition, to be tried or released.

The House being acquainted, "That it was the Desire of the Earl of Bath, That whereas he hath been committed to The Tower of London Five Months, by virtue of an Order from the Committee for the Safety, for levying War against the Parliament, he desired he might be either tried or else released."

Hereupon this House Ordered the Earl of Holland to acquaint the Committee herewith; and to know of them upon what Grounds and Information they did commit him for levying War against the Parliament, and report the same to this House.

Bernard, E. of Manchester's Servant, a Protection.

Ordered, That Mr. Rob't Bernard, employed in the Affairs of the Earl of Manchester, shall have a Protection from this House, to keep him, his House, and Goods, from Plundering.

Message from the H. C. to expedite the Ordinance for the Weekly Assessment;

A Message was brought from the House of Commons, by Sir Phillip Stapleton, Knight:

To desire their Lordships would please to give Expedition to the Ordinance concerning the Weekly Assessing and Raising of Monies, for the Maintenance of the Army, for there is a Common Council this Afternoon in London, for the procuring of Monies, which they doubt will be fruitless, unless this Ordinance be passed, to reimburse the same.

and to sit a while.

2. The House of Commons desired their Lordships to sit a while, for they shall have some Business to acquaint their Lordships with (fn. 2).

Agreed, To sit a while.

The Answer returned was:

Answer.

That this House will take the Ordinance into Consideration, and return an Answer by Messengers of their own; and that this House will sit a while, as they have desired.

Ordinance for raising Monies Weekly.

Ordered, That the Consideration of the Ordinance for the Weekly Raising of Money is referred to the Committee of the whole House, who are to consider what Alterations are fit to be made therein, and report the same to the House.

Then the House was adjourned into a Committee during Pleasure, and the said Ordinance was read; and the Committee withdrew into (fn. 3) the Prince's Lodgings, to consider of it.

The House was resumed.

Post meridiem.

PRAYERS.

Earl of Manchester appointed to be Speaker this Day.

Message from the H. C. for a Conference on the Propositions to the King.

A Message was brought from the House of Commons, by Sir John Holland:

1. To desire a Conference, touching a Conference concerning [ (fn. 4) the Propositions].

Ordinance for raising Money Weekly;

2. They desired their Lordships Resolutions touching the Ordinance concerning (fn. 4) the Weekly Assessment for the Maintenance of the Army.

and about assessing Delinquents.

3. To desire Expedition touching the Ordinance concerning the assessing of Delinquents.

The Answer returned was:

Answer.

That this House will take into Consideration the Ordinance of Parliament touching the Weekly Assessment, and the Ordinance touching (fn. 4) Delinquents into Consideration; and concerning a Conference, their Lordships will give a present Meeting, as is desired.

The House was adjourned during Pleasure, and the Lords went to the Conference; which being ended, the House was resumed.

Conference about the Propositions to the King reported.

The Speaker reported the Effect of this Conference:

"That, upon Consideration of the last Conference concerning the Propositions, the House of Commons have made these Votes and Resolutions, which they offer to their Lordships Consideration:

"1. That there shall be a Treaty upon the Propositions, before the Disbanding, with this Limitation, That so much of His Majesty's Propositions as concerneth the Magazines, Forts, and Ships, and the Proposition of both Houses for the Disbanding of the Armies, shall be first treated of, and concluded on, before the proceeding to treat upon any of the other Propositions."

Agreed to.

"Resolved, &c.

"That this House doth concur with the Lords in the Vote concerning the Time of the Treaty, with this Addition, that this Treaty shall begin the Fourth of March, or sooner if it may be; the Time may not exceed Twenty Days."

Agreed to.

(fn. 5) "Resolved, &c.

"That this House doth concur with the Lords in the several Times for Disbanding the Armies."

Agreed unto.

"Resolved, &c.

"That there shall be a Cessation of all Acts of Hostility, in order to the Treaty upon the Propositions; and that the Manner and Limitation and Qualification of the said Cessation be referred to the Lord General for his Advice, that thereupon the House may take further Order therein."

Ordered, That this House agrees with the House of Commons in these Votes.

And further Ordered, That the Speaker of this House do send these Votes to the Lord General, according to the Votes of the House of Commons.

Committee to go to the Common Council, about raising Money for the Army.

Ordered, That Six Lords shall join with a proportionable Number of the House of Commons, and go to the Common Council in London this Afternoon, to make a Proposition for the speedy raising of Monies, for the Supply of the Army.

Ordinance for the Weekly Assessment.

Next, the Committee reported the Ordinance for the Weekly Assessment, with some Alterations and Provisoes; which, being (fn. 6) read, were approved of, and Ordered to be communicated to the House of Commons by a Conference.

Then

Message to the H. C. for a Conference about it.

A Message was sent to the House of Commons, by Sir Rob't Rich and Mr. Page:

To desire a present Conference, in the Painted Chamber, touching the Ordinance concerning the Assessing of a Weekly Supply, for the Maintenance of the Army.

The Answer returned was:

Answer.

That the House of Commons will give a present Conference, as is desired.

Message from thence, for Concurrence in Two Orders.

A Message was brought from the House of Commons, by Sir Rob't Harley:

To desire their Lordships Concurrence in Two Orders:

1. Concerning the Payment of Seven Hundred and Twenty Pounds, for the Business of Glocestershire.

(Here enter it).

2. An Order to command Clerks not (fn. 6) to go to the next Assizes.

Respited for a Time.

The Answer returned was:

Answer.

That this House agrees with the House of Commons in the Order concerning the Seven Hundred and Twenty Pounds, for the Affairs of the County of Gloucester.

Concerning the other Order, their Lordships will send an Answer by Messengers of their own.

The House was adjourned during Pleasure, and the Lords went to the Conference; which being ended, the House was resumed.

Message to the H. C. that the Lords agree to the Votes about the Propositions;

A Message was sent to the House of Commons, by Sir Rob't Rich and Mr. Page:

To let the House of Commons know, that their Lordships do agree with them in the Votes now brought up at the last Conference, concerning the Propositions.

2. To let them know, that their Lordships have Ordered the Speaker to send the Votes to the Lord General.

and for a Committee of theirs to go with the Lords to the Common Council.

3. To let them know, that their Lordships have appointed to send Six Lords to the Common Council in London; and to desire that the House of Commons would appoint a proportionable Number of their House, to join with the Six Lords.

Ordinance for assessing Delinquents.

Next, the Ordinance for the assessing of Delinquents, in the County of Lyncolne, was read, and agreed to.

(Here enter it.)

The Answer returned was:

Answer from the H. C.

That the House of Commons have agreed, and have appointed a proportionable Number of their House, to join with the Six Lords, to go this Afternoon, to the Common Council in London.

Order for 720 l. to Mr. Stephens, and Mr. Hodges, for Arms for the Troops in Gloucestershire.

"Whereas Mr. Stephens and Mr. Hodges (Members of the House of Commons) have, for the advancing and furnishing out of Forces into the County of Gloucester, for the Public Service of the Kingdom, under the Command of Sir William Waller, Serjeant Major General of the Forces raised in the said County of Gloucester, and other Counties adjacent, taken up and provided at Interest, upon their particular Credits and Securities, the Sum of Seven Hundred and Twenty Pounds, for Arms, without which the said Forces could not march upon their present Expedition: It is therefore Ordered, by the Lords and Commons, That Sir Gilbert Gerrard, Treasurer for the Army, shall forthwith issue and pay, out of his First Receipts (upon Subscription or otherwise), the said Sum of Seven Hundred and Twenty Pounds, with the Interest according to Eight Pounds per Cent. unto the said Members of the House of Commons."

Order for seizing Estates of Malignants in Lincolnshire.

"Whereas divers desperate and ill-disposed Persons, in the County of Lincolne, City of Lincolne and County of the same, have been and now are in actual War and Rebellion against the Parliament and Kingdom, or otherwise have voluntarily contributed Horse, Arms, Money, Goods, or Plate, and entered into an Association, for the maintaining and something of this unnatural War, and Civil Combustion: It is therefore Ordered, Established, and Ordained, by the Lords and Commons in Parliament, That the Committee nominated by both Houses of Parliament for the County of Lincolne, City of Lincolne and County of the same, or any Four of them respectively, shall have Power and Authority, and are hereby authorized, to seize, receive, and take, all Rents, Money, Horses, Arms, Goods, and Plate, of every the Parsons so in actual War, or in Association against the Parliament, or voluntarily contributing as aforesaid; and the said Rents, Horses, Arms, Goods, Monies, and Plate, to detain and employ for the Public Service of the Parliament and Kingdom, rendering an Accompt therefor only to the Parliament, or to such as shall be by them appointed: And it is further Declared and Ordained, That the Tenants of any such Persons as are in actual War and Rebellion, in Association against the Parliament's Forces, be enjoined and required to pay the Rents, according to this Ordinance, into the Hands of the said Committee, or any Four of them, or such Persons as they shall appoint; and all the said Persons employed in the Execution of this Ordinance, and all Tenants and others that shall yield Obedience to the Execution of this Ordinance, shall, for their Indemnity against any Proceedings at Law or otherwise, have the Protection of both Houses of Parliament."

Mr. Leech, a Pass.

Ordered, That Mr. Leech shall have a Pass, [ (fn. 7) to go] quietly from Oxford to London.

Bernard, E. of Manchester's Servant, a Protection.

Ordered, That Mr. Bernard, one employed in the Earl of Manchester's Service, shall have a Protection of this House, for his Person, his House, Servants, and Goods.

Adjourn.

House adjourned till 10a die Lunæ.

Footnotes

  • 1. Deest in Originali.
  • 2. Origin. with it.
  • 3. Deest in Originali.
  • 4. Bis in Originali.
  • 5. There is a Duplicate of this Resolution in the Original.
  • 6. Deest in Originali.
  • 7. Deest in Originali.