House of Lords Journal Volume 7: 18 June 1645

Pages 439-440

Journal of the House of Lords: Volume 7, 1644. Originally published by His Majesty's Stationery Office, London, 1767-1830.

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DIE Mercurii, 18 die Junii.

PRAYERS, by Dr. Hoyle.

Ds. Grey de Warke, Speaker.

Comes Warwicke.
Comes Sarum.
Comes Nottingham.
Comes Pembrooke.
Comes Northumb.
Comes Manchester.
Comes Kent.
Comes Essex.
L. Viscount Say & Seale.
Ds. North.
Ds. Robertes.
Ds. Maynard.
Ds. Mountague.
Ds. Howard.
Ds. Wharton.
Ds. Bruce.

Message from the H. C. with an Ordinance.

A Message was brought from the House of Commons, by Sir Rob't Pye Knight:

To desire their Lordships Concurrence in an Ordinance for nominating Colonel Morgan to be Governor of Gloucester. (Here enter it.)

Read, and Agreed to.

The Answer returned was:


That this House concurs with the House of Commons, in nominating Colonel Morgan to be Governor of Gloucester.

The Earl of Manchester reported some Papers from the Committee of both (fn. 1) Kingdoms:

1. A Letter from Sir Tho. Fairefax; which was read, as follows:

Letter from Sir T. Fairfax, that he intends drawing his Army towards Leicester, and that he is informed the King is gone towards Chester.

"To the Right Honourable the Committee of both Kingdoms.

"My Lords and Gentlemen,

"I have met with some Letters (here inclosed) going to the King, which I thought fit to hasten to (fn. 2) your Lordships. The Army is upon a March from Great Glynn towards Lecester, before which Place I intend to draw up the Army. The King, some say, is gone towards Chester. The greatest Body of their Horse are about Ashby de la Zouch; some are gone to Newarke. I shall remain no longer in this Place than either your Lordships or myself shall discern how to improve this good Success which God hath given us to the best Advantage. I remain

"Your Lordships most humble Servant,

Great Glynn, June 16th, 1645.

"Tho. Fairfax."

"At the Committee of both Kingdoms, at Darby House.

E. of Denbigh against Capt. Stone & al. Committees for Stafford.

"Ordered, That it be reported back to the House of Lords, That whereas they have given out a General Order, for all Papers, &c. that may concern the Earl of Denbigh's Commanders and Officers and his Association; that this Committee desires that a particular List may be given in to this Committee, of the Papers that are desired; and then this Committee will give Order therein.

Col. Fiennes to guard the Prisoners taken at the Battle of Naseby.

"That it be reported to both Houses, That there are Four Thousand Prisoners coming up towards London; and to desire the Houses to think of some Way for the disposing of them."

Ordered, That this House thinks it fit that Colonel Fiennes shall be commanded to stay with the Prisoners, from coming up to London, at St. Albanes, until he receive further Directions from the Houses of Parliament; but the Officers he is to send up safely to London: And the Committee of Hartfordshire are to assist Colonel Fiennes with some Guards of the Forces of that County, for the safe keeping the Soldiers, that they steal not away.

Committee to consider how to dispose of these Prisoners.

Ordered, That these Lords following are appointed, to consider how these Soldiers may be distributed to several Places in Counties where they may be secure; and that the House of Commons may be desired to name a proportionable Committee, to join with them, and to meet this Morning:

Comes Northumb.
Comes Pembrooke.
Comes Sarum.
Comes Warwicke.
Comes Manchester.
Comes Stamford.
L. Viscount Say & Seale.
Ds. Robertes.
Ds. Mountague.

Any Three.

Message to the H. C. to appoint a Committee to meet them;

A Message was sent to the House of Commons, by Doctor Aylett and Doctor Heath:

To desire their Concurrence, that an Order may be sent to Colonel Fiennes, to stay at St. Albans, with the Prisoners, until he receive further Directions from the Houses of Parliament; and that the Committee for Hartfordshire may be commanded to assist him with some Guards of their Forces, for their safe keeping; but that Colonel Fieenes do presently send up the Officers to London; and that he cause Notice to be given before they come into London, that so the Militia of London, upon Notice, may send some Guards, to convoy the Officers to the several Prisons as shall be appointed for them; and to let them know, that their Lordships have appointed a Committee, to consider how these Prisoners may be distributed into several Places in respective Counties, where they may be safely kept, and so avoid the bringing of them up to London, which may endanger their Escape, and other Inconveniencies as may ensue; and to desire that the House of Commons would nominate a Committee of a proportionable Number, to meet this Morning, for this Purpose.

and with Col. Butler's Petition.

2. To deliver the Petition of Lieutenant Colonel Butler to them; and recommend it, that he may be brought to a Trial.

Rutland Ordinance; and Lady Fairfax's Petition.

Ordered, That, by the next Message to the House of Commons, they be put in Mind of the Ordinance for Rutlandshire, and the Petition of Sir Wm. Fairefaxe's Lady.

Ordinance for the Northern Association.

The Ordinance for the Northern Association, was read the Third Time, and Agreed (fn. 3) to, with an Alteration.

E. of Denbigh against Capt. Stone & al. Committees for Stafford.

The Counsel for the Earl of Denbigh opened, at this Bar, the Complaint against Captain Stone, and others of the Committee for Staffordshire.

And the Defendants alledged, "That they could not know what was examined against them, because they were not permitted to be present at the Examination:" And they further said, "That this Business was already depending in the House of Commons; and, they being Commoners, they are not willing to do any Thing prejudicial to the Privileges of the House of Commons."

Ordered, That this Business be deferred till Friday Morning.

Message to the H. C. for both the Thanksgiving Sermons to be in the Morning.

It was moved, "That in regard the Dinner Tomorrow will be at Grocers Hall, which is far off from the Church, that both the Sermons may be in the Morning; and that the Peers may meet at ChristChurch by Eight (fn. 4) a Clock:" Which was Ordered accordingly.

And a Message was sent to the House of Commons, by Serjeant Whitfeild, &c. To acquaint the House of Commons herewith, and desire them that they would meet likewise at Eight of the Clock.

Answers from thence.

Doctor Aylett and Doctor Heath return with this Answer from the House of Commons:

1. For that concerning Colonel Cromwell, they do agree.

2. They agree to that concerning Captain Young.

3. They agree to the Committee to meet presently, for disposing of the Prisoners.

4. To all the Particulars concerning the Soldiers, they will send an Answer by Messengers of their own.

5. To all the rest of the Particulars of the Message, they will take them into Consideration, and send an Answer by Messengers of their own.

Mr. Serjeant Whitfield &c. returns with this Answer from the House of Commons:

That they intend to meet To-morrow Morning, at Eight of the Clock in the Morning; and do agree that both Sermons be preached in the Morning.

Lord Mayor to have Notice, that both Sermons are to be in the Morning.

Ordered, That the Gentleman Usher do signify to the Lord Mayor, "That the Houses have appointed the Sermon to begin at Eight of the Clock Tomorrow, and both Sermons to be in the Morning;" and to give Notice to Mr. Marshall and Mr. Vynes, to prepare themselves accordingly.

Col. Morgan to be Governor of Gloucester.

"It is this Day Ordered, by the Lords and Commons in Parliament, That the Lords and Commons do nominate and approve of Colonel Morgan, Colonel of Dragoons late under the Command of the Lord Fairefax, to be Governor of Gloucester."


House adjourned till 9a, Friday Morning next.


  • 1. Origin. Kings.
  • 2. Deest in Originali.
  • 3. Origin. to it.
  • 4. Origin. at.