Journal of the House of Lords: Volume 8, 1645-1647. Originally published by His Majesty's Stationery Office, London, 1767-1830.
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DIE Mercurii, 13 die Maii.
Levett to be Instituted to Ashwell;
and Poole to Weston upon Trent.
Ordered, That Sir Nath. Brent shall give Institution and Induction to Edward Poole Minister, to the Rectory of Weston upon Trent, in the County of Derby; being presented thereunto by Tho. Stych, of Newberry, in the Parish of Barking, in the County of Essex, Esquire.
Ld. Mohun bailed.
"Warwicke D'nus Mohun tenetur D'no Regi
"Joh'es Harman, de London, Ironmonger, ct Abraham Taylor de eadem Civitate Merchant, Manuceptores proprædicto Warwicke D'no Mohun, tenentur D'no dicto Regi, viz. uterque eorum separatim in
"The Condition of the abovesaid Recognizance is, That Warwicke Lord Mohun shall not go further than Twenty Miles from the Line of Communication; and shall appear before this House within Two Days (fn. 1) after Summons left at his House or Lodging, or Notice given to (fn. 2) himself."
Ordinance for Mr. Spinkes to be Minister of Castor.
An Ordinance was brought in this Day, for making Mr. Spinkes Minister of Castor, in the County of North'ton; and being read, was approved of, and Ordered to be sent to the House of Commons for Concurrence.
Message from the H. C. for a Conference about disposing of the King's Person.
To desire a Conference, so soon as it may stand with their Lordships Convenience, concerning the Matter of the late Conference, touching the disposing of the Person of the King as both Houses shall think fit.
Ld. Chancellor of Scotland going to return thither.
The Earl of Manchester reported, "That the Lord Chancellor of Scotland hath signified to the Committee of both Kingdoms, that he had received Command from the Commissioners of the Estates of Scotland to make his speedy Repair to them; and before he goes, he desires the Houses (fn. 3) may know of his going, that so, if he might receive any Thing as might tend to the Good of both Kingdoms, he will faithfully improve with all the Care he can."
Thanks of the House to be sent to him.
Ordered, That the Speaker shall let the Lord Chancellor know, from this House, "That their Lordships do set a high Value upon his Merits and good Services which he hath shewed to this Kingdom; and to give him Thanks for his Expressions reported this Day; and that this House doth wish him a good Journey."
Upon reading the Petition of Wm. Palmer: It is Ordered, That Mr. Justice Reeve and Mr. Justice Pheasant shall certify to this House the true State of the Business, that so this House may give further Direction therein.
Report of the Conference on the Vote about disposing of the King's Person.
"That the House of Commons had taken the Vote wherein formerly they desired our Concurrence, and the Answer of the Lords, into their serious Consideration; and, upon Debate, had resolved to adhere to their Vote as formerly delivered to us.
"Such a Negative Answer, they hold not to be usual in the Proceedings of Parliament; and they conceive it very inconvenient: For if One House may give a Negative Answer without any Reasons offered, the other House may adhere without giving Reasons for the same; and so the Houses will have no clear Understanding of the Grounds of each other's Resolutions.
"It is not only a Right, but it would not be honourable for the Parliament if He should not be demanded; for it would be very unsafe for the King to be in an Army in England, where His Personal Presence may have an ill Influence upon them.
"Your Lordships have heard the Sense of the House of Commons, how much they conceive themselves concerned in Honour to have this Vote to be passed: Therefore they hope your Lordships will never depart from bearing your Part in such a Demand. They will be very unwilling to be necessitated to do this without your Lordships. Yet, if your Lordships shall not think fit to agree with them, they shall never fail to do their Part in making this Demand; it being a Thing wherein the Parliament and Kingdom is so much interessed."
Question concerning Words spoke by Sir J. Evelyn at this Conference.
Next this Question was put, "Whether, by these Words, it doth not appear to this House, that the Sense of these Words are, That in case their Lordships do not agree with the House of Commons, that they will do it without them?"