House of Lords Journal Volume 8: 15 December 1646

Pages 611-612

Journal of the House of Lords: Volume 8, 1645-1647. Originally published by His Majesty's Stationery Office, London, 1767-1830.

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DIE Martis, 15 Decembris.

PRAYERS, by Mr. Seaman.

E. Manchester, Speaker.

E. Pembr.
E. Lincolne.
E. Suff.
E. Warwick.
E. Middlesex.
E. Mulgrave.
E. Kent.
E. Northumb'land.
E. Salisbury.
E. Stamford.
E. Denbigh.
E. Rutland.
L. North.
L. Mountague.
L. Wharton.
L. Willoughby.
L. Bruce.
L. Howard.
L. Hunsdon.
L. Grey.
L. Maynard.

Order to pay the Black Rod's Fees, for bringing up the E. of Worcester.

An Order read, for the Payment of Mr. Thane his Fees due to him, for bringing up the Earl Worcester; which was Agreed to, and Ordered to be sent to the House of Commons; which accordingly was done, by Doctor Heath, &c.

E. of Newport, Leave to stay in Town.

Ordered, That the Earl of Newport hath Leave, with his Family and Servants, to stay in Town.

The Question being put, "Whether, in the general, the Question shall be first put, That no Papist shall have the Benefit of their Lordships Leave, but such as did make it appear to this House their Ill-disposition of Health ?"

And it was Resolved in the Negative.

Ordinance concerning the Great Seal.

The Earl of Northumb. reported from the Committee the Ordinance concerning the Great Seal of England; and they think it fit to pass, with some Alterations, which they offer to the Consideration of the House.

The said Alterations were read, and afterwards the Ordinance with the Alterations.

And the Question being put, "Whether to agree to this Ordinance with the Alterations now read?"

And it was Resolved in the Affirmative.

Protest against it.

Memorandum, That the Lords following, before the putting this Question, desired Leave to enter their Dissents, if the Question was carried against their Vote; which being granted, they did accordingly dissent, by subscribing their Names.

"T. Lyncolne."

D. of Bucks, to take the Covenant.

Ordered, That the Earl of Denbigh and the Lord Hunsdon are appointed to tender the Covenant to the Duke of Buckingham.

Message from the H. C. to sit a while.

A Message was brought from the House of Commons, by Sir Rob't Pye Knight, &c.

To desire their Lordships would please to sit a while.

2. To put their Lordships in Mind of the Ordinances concerning the Army.

The Answer returned was:


That this House will sit a while, as is desired: To the rest of the Message, this House will send an Answer, by Messengers of their own.

Message from the H. C. with an Order.

A Message was brought from the House of Commons, by Sir Henry Mildmay Knight:

To desire Concurrence in an Order which concerns the sending of the Money to the Scotts.

(Here enter it.)

Read, and Agreed to.

The Answer returned was:


That this House agrees to this Order now brought up.

Marquis of Hertford & al. desire to stay in Town.

It was moved, "That the Lord Marquis of Hertford, the Lady Mountague, and the Countess of Rutland, might have a Pass to stay in Town."

But the House respited their Resolution until there be a Certificate that they have taken the Covenant and the Negative Oath.

L. Herbert affronted by Griffith.

The Speaker acquainted the House, "That late Yesternight he was informed, that Mr. John Griffyth affronted the Lord Philip Herbert, whereby there was likely to be a Quarrel; upon which, his Lordship gave Order to the Gentleman Usher of this House, to command him to keep his Lodging, until the Pleasure of this House be signified."

Of which Action of the Speaker this House approved; and Ordered,

Griffith to be attached.

"Whereas this House is informed, That present Danger is like to ensue, by reason of some foul Affronts offered unto the Lord Herbert, by Mr. John Griffith: It is Ordered, by the Lords in Parliament assembled, to prevent any further Danger and shedding of Blood, That the Gentleman Usher, or his Deputy, attending this House, shall take him the said John Griffith into Custody, and keep him in Safety until the Pleasure of this House be further signified."

Lady Andover, Leave to stay in Town.

Resolved, upon the Question, That the Lady Andover, having taken the Negative Oath, shall have Leave to stay in Town.

Alderman Fowkes and the E. I. Co.

Ordered, That Mr. Alderman Fowkes' Cause shall be heard on Thursday next come Three Weeks.

Ordered, The Ordinance concerning the Great Places and Offices of Ireland, and the Ordinance concerning the Militia, shall be read To-morrow, the First Business.

L. Seymour, Leave to stay in Town.

Ordered, That the Lord Seymour shall have Leave to stay in Town till Monday Morning next.

E. of South'ton, Leave to stay in Town if he takes the Covenants.

It being moved, as the Desire of the Earl of South'ton, That he might be admitted to stay in Town about his Composition:"

The House returned this Answer:

"That, upon his submitting himself to the Order of this House for taking the Covenant and the Negative Oath, their (fn. 1) Lordships will take it into Consideration."

Message to the H. C. about examining into the Misdemeanors committed by Griffith.

A Message was sent to the House of Commons, by Doctor Heath, &c.

That whereas there was formerly a Committee of both Houses appointed, for examining of several Misdemeanors committed and done by John Griffith Gentleman, whereof no Report hath been made to the Lords; the Lords, upon Information of new Affronts and Injuries offered to the Lord Herbert by Mr. John Griffith, have secured the said John Griffith, for the preventing of further Mischiefs; and in regard that the Examinations and Proofs concerning the foul Misdemeanors of the said Mr. Griffith remain with the Committee of the House of Commons, the Lords desire that the House of Commons will put the Business into some speedy Way for Justice against him.

Order for 12,000l. Part of the 100,000l. to be paid to the Scots Commissioners.

"Resolved, by the Lords and Commons assembled in Parliament, That Twelve Thousand Pounds, Part of the First Hundred Thousand Pounds, now ready, and appointed to be sent to Yorke, be paid to the Commissioners of Scotland residing in or about London; and that a Receipt under the Hands of the said Commissioners of Scotland, or any Five of them, shall be a sufficient Warrant and Discharge to the Treasurers, upon the passing of their Accompts."


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