House of Lords Journal Volume 8: 20 January 1647

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Journal of the House of Lords: Volume 8, 1645-1647. Originally published by His Majesty's Stationery Office, London, 1767-1830.

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DIE Mercurii, 20 die Januarii.

PRAYERS, by Mr. Wilson.

Domini præsentes fuerunt:

Comes Manchester, Speaker.

Comes Sarum.
Comes Mulgrave.
Comes Lyncolne.
Comes Northumb.
Comes Suffolke.
Comes Warwicke.
L. Viscount (fn. 1) Say & Seale.
L. Viscount Hereford.
Comes Rutland.
Ds. Bruce.
Ds. Howard.
Ds. Wharton.
Ds. Hunsdon.
Ds. North.
Ds. Grey.

Letters from the King, and Scots Commissioners, &c. at Newcastle.

The Speaker acquainted the House, "That Sir Peter Killegrew is returned from Newcastle, and hath brought Three Letters;" which were opened, and read:

1. A Letter from the King. (Here enter it.)

2. A Letter from the Commissioners of Scotland, at Newcastle. (Here enter it.)

3. A Letter from General Leven. (Here enter it.)

Ordered, That these Letters be communicated to the Scotch Commissioners this Afternoon, by the Members of both Houses that are of that Committee; and that they be sent presently to the House of Commons.

Message to the H. C. with them; and about the following Particulars.

A Message was sent to the House of Commons, by Sir Edward Leech and Mr. Page:

1. To deliver to them the Three Letters read this Day from Newcastle.

2. To deliver to them the Papers concerning Belfast.

3. To put them in Mind of the Ordinance concerning the Militia of the City of London.

4. To deliver to them the Ordinance concerning Mr. Thornton to be Clerk of the Wardrobe.

5. To put them in Mind of Mr. Rawlinson's Ordinance, to be Minister of Lambeth.

6. To put them in Mind of the King of Denmark's Letters.

7. To put them in Mind of Oliver Browne's Petition.

8. To put them in Mind of Mr. Bedford's Business.

Dutton, a Pass

Ordered, That Mr. Wm. Dutton shall have a Pass, to go into Holland, to his Uncle Mr. John Dutton.

Lymbrey and Langham.

This Day the Counsel of Captain Lymbrey, &c. were heard, to the Matter of the Statute of 4 H. IV.

It is Ordered, That Alderman Langham's Counsel shall be heard on Friday Morning next, in Answer to it.

Alderman Fowkes and the E. I. Co.

The Question being put, "Whether the Cause between Alderman Foulkes and the East India Company shall be heard To-morrow Morning, as is appointed?"

It was Resolved in the Affirmative.

Letter from the King, about His being moved to Holdenby.

To the Speaker of the House of Peers pro Tempore; to be communicated to the Lords and Commons of the Parliament of England assembled at Westm'r, and the Commissioners for the Kingdom of Scotland at London.

Charles R.

His Majesty hath received, by Sir Peter Killigrew, the Vote of His Two Houses of Parliament, of the 31th of December, 1646, about His coming to Houldenby; concerning which, His Majesty will declare His Pleasure to the Commissioners which shall come hither for that Purpose."

Newcastle, 15th of January, 1646.

Letter from the Scots Commissioners at Newcastle, on the same Subject;

For the Right Honnorable the Earle of Manchester Speaker of the House of Peers, and to the Honorable William Lenthall Esquire Speaker to the House of Commons, by them to be comunicated to the Honnorable Houses of Parliament assembled at Westminster.

May it please your Lordships,

Wee came hither to Newcastle, expecting that some Commissioners should have beene sent from the Honnorable Houses, according to the Desires of the Parliament of Scotland represented by their Commissioners; and haveing received Yesternight a Letter from your Lordships, in Name of the Houses, by Sir Peter Killigrew, with the inclosed Vote therein, concerning the King's Majesty's goeing to Holdenby House, shewing that Commissioners are coming hither, but not importing any Treaty at all with us; wee have sent the Letter and Vote to the Parliament of Scotland, and shall bee ready at all Occasions to endeavor the Preservation of the Union betwixt the Kingdomes, with that Affection and Reality which can bee expected from

New'le, 12 Januarii, 1647.

"Your Lordships

"Most humble Servants,

"Leven. Loudonn. Lothian.

Ballcarres. A. Hep. Burne

Jarthland. F. Frerland.

"W. Lendonyns."

and from the E. of Leven.

For the Right Honnorable the Earle of Manchester Speaker of the House of Peers, and to the Honnorable William Lenthall Esquire Speaker to the House of Commons; by them to be communicated to the Two Houses of Parliament assembled at Westm'r.

May it please your Lordship,

I received a Letter from your Lordship, in Name of the Honnorable Houses, with the inclosed Vote concerning the disposeing of the Person of the King, wherein your Lordship shewes me that a Committee is to bee sent hither for that Effect, and in the meane Tyme desire the Continuance of my Care: In Answere whereunto, I shall assure your Lordship, That, as I have hitherto with all Faithfullnes beene willing to doe whatsoever might wittnesse my Zeale to the Publique, soe shall I with the same Constancy (in the Particuler concerning the Care of His Majesty's Person) use the best Meanes and Endeavors which may conduce most to the preserving a faire Correspondence, and maintayning the happy Union setled betweene the Two Kingdomes; and soe I remaine

Newcastle, 12 Januarii, 1647.

Your Lordship's

"Most humble Servaunt,



House adjourned till 9a cras.


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