Martis, 8 Feb. 1641.
PRAYERS.
Privilege.
ORDERED, That Jo.Brownejohn, the Servant of
Mr. Ash a Member of this House, who is arrested
upon a mesne Process, at the Suit of Humphry Norbon,
be discharged from Arrest; and the Prosecutor, and the
Bailiffs that arrested him, be summoned to appear here,
to give an Account, why they arrested the Servant of a
Member of this House, contrary to the Privilege of
Parliament.
Treaty with
Scotland.
A Message from the Lords, by Sir Edw.Leech and
Dr. Bennett;
The Lords having taken into Consideration the Propositions that came from this House, concerning the Treaty
with the Scotts;- do agree with this House in all Particulars; except, whereas it is said that the Account shall
be given to the Lord Lieutenant of Ireland, they add,
"or to the Governor or Governors of that Kingdom for
the Time being."
Resolved, upon the Question, That this House does
assent unto this Addition.
Temporal
Jurisdiction
of Bishops.
A Message from the Lords, by Sir Ro. Rich and
Mr. Page;
Two of the Lords House, by Direction of that House,
have attended his Majesty, for his Royal Assent unto the
Bill for disenabling all Persons in Holy Orders to exercise any temporal Jurisdiction or Authority. The King's
Answer is, "That it is a matter of Weight; which his
Majesty will take into Consideration, and send an Answer
in convenient time."
That this Message shall be referred to a Committee, to
consider of some Reasons, to be presented unto the Lords
at a Conference, to be offered unto his Majesty from both
Houses, to induce him to the speedy Passing of this Bill:
Sir Philip Stapilton, Mr. Pierepoint, Sir Jo.Evelyn,
Mr. Selden, Mr. Solicitor, Sir W.Erle, Mr. Hampden,
Mr. Rowse, Mr. Cage, Mr. Fines, Mr. Martin.
Trial of the
Bishops.
Mr. Long reports, that the Answer he received from
the Lords concerning the Twelve Bishops, "That the Bishops.
Lords had appointed this Day Sevennight for their Trial."
Letters, &c.
from Berwick.
Ordered, That those Letters and Informations, sent from
Berwick, be referred to the Committee for Informations:
And Sir Tho. Widdrington is added to this Committee.
Ordered, That the Committee for Informations do
peruse the Letters sent from the Mayor of Barnstaple.
Message from the King- Pym's Speech respecting
Ireland.
Mr. Speaker read a Letter from his Majesty, and in it
inclosed this Message;
HIS Majesty taking notice of a Speech, pretending in
the Title to have been delivered by Mr. Pym, in a
Conference, and printed by Order of the House of Commons; in which it was affirmed, that since the Stop upon
the Ports against all Irish Papists, by both Houses, many
the chief Commanders, now in the Head of the Rebels,
have been suffered to pass by his Majesty's immediate
Warrant; and being very. . . . of having used extreme
Caution, in the Granting of Passports into Ireland; so
that He conceives either this Paper not to have been so
delivered and printed as it pretends, or this House to
have received some Misinformation: His Majesty would
be resolved, whether this Speech were so delivered and
printed; and, if it were, would have this House to review upon what Informations that Particular was grounded; that either That may be found, upon Examination,
to have been false, and both this House and his Majesty
injured by it; or that his Majesty may know, by what
Means, and by whose Fault, his Authority hath been so
highly abused, as to be made to conduce to the Assistance of that Rebellion, which he so much detests and
abhors; and that he may see Himself fully vindicated
from all Reflections of the least Suspicion of that kind.
Pemerton's
Petition.
The humble Petition of Michael Pemerton was read;
and laid aside.
Letter from
Hull.
A Letter from Mr. Hotham to Mr. Speaker, directed
from Hull, dated Feb. 4th, 1641.
Letter, &c.
from the
King -
Pym's
Speech.
A Letter from his Majesty, dated Feb. 7th, from
Windesore, directed to Mr. Speaker, with a Message
inclosed, concerning Mr. Pym's delivering in a Speech,
at a Conference, "that since the Stop of the Ports against
all Irish Papists, by both Houses, many of the chief
Commanders, now in the Head of the Rebels, have been
suffered, by his Majesty's immediate Warrant."
Mr. Hollis, Sir Jo. Hotham, Mr. Pym, Sir Arth. Haselrig, Mr. Bodevile, Sir Wm. Brereton, Sir Wm. Lewis,
Sir Hugh Owen, Mr. Strode, Mr. Bellassis;
This Committee is to consider of the Message sent
from his Majesty, concerning Papists passing over by his
Majesty's immediate Warrant: And they are to consider
of all the Informations that have been given to this
House, touching this Business; and to consider what is
fit to be done upon this Message: And have Power to
send for Parties, Witnesses, &c.: And are to meet Tomorrow, at Eight of Clock, in the Star-chamber.
Stay of Ships
from Ireland.
That Mr. Mathewes shall write to the Mayor of Dartmouth, and give him Order to make Stay of those Barks
and Freight, that are come from Ireland, until he shall
receive farther Order from this House. And it is farther
Ordered, That the Informations given to this House, concerning these Barks, arrived and put in at Dartmouth,
be referred to the Committee for Irish Affairs.
Message
from Lords.
A Message from the Lords, by Sir Ro. Rich and
Mr. Page;
The Lords have taken into Consideration these Papers
that they received from this House: They have agreed
unto them, only with some Additions that are expressed
in the Margin.
Pressing
Soldiers.
The Amendments that came down from the Lords, to
the Bill for the Pressing of Soldiers, being Yesterday assented unto, were this Day read in the ingrossed Bill, and
assented unto.
Person sent
for.
Resolved, upon the Question, That Hen. Homer and
Rich. Browne shall be sent for, as Delinquents, by the
Serjeant at Arms attending on this House, for contriving
and printing a Speech, supposed to be made in this House
by Mr. Browne, a Member thereof.
Militia, &c.
Mr. Perepointe reports from the Committee appointed
to consider of the Lords Amendments of the Ordinance
of the Forts and Militia of the Kingdom: Which were
read; and, upon the Question, assented unto.
Navel
Affairs.
Whereas, upon Mr. Greene's Report from the Committee for the Navy, it appears they have conferred with
the Lord Admiral, and the Officers of the Navy, concerning setting out some of his Majesty's Ships, for Part of
this Summer's Fleet; and have resolved of Fifteen of
his Majesty's Ships to be employed accordingly, manned
with Two thousand Nine Hundred and Seventy Men, for
Eight Months Service; and have farther treated for several Merchant Ships here about London; as also at Bristoll; which they have also resolved, to the Number of
Twenty-three Ships, to be employed in the said Service:
It is this Day Ordered, That the aforesaid Number, as
well of his Majesty's Ships, as of the said Merchants,
shall be employed as this Summer's Fleet, for the Space
of Eight Months, for the Defence of the Narrow Seas,
and of his Majesty's Kingdoms of England and Ireland;
and that the Committee of the Navy do farther confer
with the Lord Admiral, for the speedy Setting out of this
Fleet; and to appoint the issuing out of Monies for the
said Service, from time to time, as Occasion shall require: And to do such farther Things as shall be for the
speedy Advancement of the said Service; and to give an
Account thereof to the House.
Resolved, upon the Question, That it shall be thus
ordered.
Farmers of
Customs, &c.
Resolved, upon the Question, That the Sum of Ten
thousand Two hundred forty-eight Pounds Six Shillings
and Nine-pence, charged on the Dividend of the Petty
Farms, for the first Seven Years of his Majesty's Reign,
to be paid unto the Creditors of the Officers of the Ordnance, (the Assignees of the Earl of Midd') shall be
charged on the said Earl of Midd', by that Bill.
Ordered, That those Merchants, or other Persons, that
have received any Monies from the Customers, by way
of Composition for Injuries done unto them by the said
Customers, and of which they have formerly complained
to this House, shall acquaint this House, what Sums of
Money, or other Satisfaction, for Composition, they have
received, by this Day Sevennight.
Contribution
for Ireland.
Mr. Browne reports the Commission concerning the
Bill of Contribution, sent from the Lords, without any
Alteration.
Rex, &c. Dilectis & fidelibus nostris. A. B. &c. Salutem.
Sciatis quod assignavimus vos, et aliquos tres vel plures
vestrum, Commissionarios nostros, ad omnia et singula faciend', performan', exequend' et peragend', in Com' nostro B. ad vos pertinen', content' et specifical' in quodam Actu
Parliamenti apud Civitat' Westm' modo tent' nup' edit',
intitulat', An Act for a speedy Contribution and Loan,
towards the Relief of his Majesty's distressed Subjects,
of the Kingdom of Ireland; secundum vim, formam, effectum, et veram Intentionem ejusdem Actus. In cujus, &c.
This Commission was read; and, by Vote, assented unto.
Kent
Petition.
The House being informed, That divers Gentlemen of
the County of Kent were at the Door, who desired to
present a Petition; they were called in, and presented it:
Which being done, they withdrew.
And then, their Petition being read;
They were again called in: And Mr. Speaker told
them, in the Name of the House, "The House had
read your Petition, and do find in it a great deal of
Affection and Zeal to the King and Commonwealth; for
which they return you Thanks: For that Particular concerning your Arms, they will take it further into Consideration, in due Time; but yet, have commanded me to
let you know, that heretofore Information being given to
this House, that your Arms were taken from you upon
the last Expedition into the North, they did make it
known to the Lords: And both Houses did join to move
his Majesty, to have as many Arms restored unto you, as
were taken from you: But, in regard there is so great Use
of Arms for Ireland, it is likely to be the Cause they are not
not restored unto you: For Coat and Conduct Money
which remains in several Collectors Hands, in your County, the House hath made a general Order, That all the
Coat and Conduct Money remaining in the Hands of any
Person whatsoever, in any County, shall be employed
for the Buying of Arms and Ammunition for the Defence of those Places; the County declaring their Consent
thereunto.
Kent
Petition to
Lords.
Then the Gentlemen presented a Petition, directed to
the Lords; in which they desired the Approbation of
this House:
And that done, they withdrew;
And that Petition being read,
They were again called in: And Mr. Speaker told
them, "That this House does approve of this Petition:
They have a great Sense, not only of your Expression to
the Commonwealth in general, but of Respect and
Affection to this House in particular: They have observed
so much Judgment and Discretion in your Delivery of it
Here, that they doubt not of your performing the like
There; and therefore, for the Manner of your Delivery
of it, they leave you to yourselves."
Ordered, That both these Petitions be entered in the
same Manner as the Surrey Petition.
Bishops Temporal Jurisdiction.
Sir Philip Stapilton reports the Reasons to induce his
Majesty to the speedy Passing of the Bill for removing
Bishops, &c.
The great and general Sufferings of the Kingdom, by
the Clergy's Exercising of secular Jurisdiction; - and the
People's taking Notice of the Bishops making a Party in
the Lords House; whereof they have of late expressed so
great a Sense, by the many and earnest Petitions to both
Houses, from many Parts of this Kingdom: - As it is
the Opinion of the Parliament, That there cannot Satisfaction be given either to their just Desires, or the heavy
Grievances which they suffer under, without the speedy
Passing of this Bill.
2. The great Contentment, which the Passing of this
Bill, in both Houses, hath given to all Sorts of People;
the Delay whereof, by his Majesty, will exceedingly lessen that Contentment, and turn into as great Discouragement.
3. The speedy Passing of this Bill being of so great
Importance, would be to the Lords and Commons a
comfortable Pledge of his Majesty's gracious Intentions
to concur with them in their subsequent Desires, which
they are preparing to present to his Majesty, as the Cures
of those great Evils and Miseries which this Kingdom
now groans under.
Resolved, upon the Question, That this House does
assent to these Reasons; and does order, that they shall
be offered to the Lords at a Conference; and the Lords
desired to join with this House in presenting them to his
Majesty.
Pressing
Soldiers.
Sir Walter Erle carried up to the Lords the Bill for
Pressing of Soldiers, returned from the Lords with some
Amendments; the which Amendments were assented
unto by this House, and the Bill amended accordingly.
Conference.
He is likewise to desire a Conference, concerning the
Forts and Militia of the Kingdom; and the Message received this Day, concerning the Bill for removing Bishops,
&c.
Mr. Pierrepoint is to manage the first Part of the Conference; and Sir Philip Stapilton to manage the latter Part.
Lord Falkland's publishing Proceedings.
Serjeant Wilde reports from the Committee appointed
to st at Merchant Taylors Hall, that there was brought
unto that Committee a Copy of a Letter written from the
Lord Falkland to the Sheriff of Hantshire, dated January
the Twenty-fifth, importing a Command he had received,
to send down Fifty Copies apiece.
Mr. Hollis, Mr. Fines, Mr. Selden, Mr. Glyn, Mr.
Pierrepoint, Sir Tho. Barrington, Mr. Strode, Sir Edw.
Partheriche, Mr. Whittlock, Mr. Grimston, Mr. Pym,
Sir H. Vane, Mr. Crue, Mr. Hampden, Mr. Vaughn, Sir
Ph. Stapilton;
This Committee is appointed to examine the Matter of
Fact of the Lord Falkland's, a Member of this House
sending down Messages and other Matters of Parliament,
to be published; and to report their Opinions thereupon:
And have Power to send for Parties, Witnesses, Papers,
Records, &c. And are to meet To-morrow, at Eight of
Clock, in the Inner Court of Wards.
Conference.
Sir Walter Erle brings Answer, That the Lords will
give a present Meeting, as is desired.
Burrell's Petition.
Ordered, That the Petition Mr. Andrewes Burrell
Gentleman, be referred to the Committee for the Fens,
where Mr. Petham has the Chair.
Billet-money.
Provided always, and be it Enacted and Declared,
That all and every Collector or Collectors of the several
Counties of Yorkeshire, Cumberland, Westmoreland, Northumberland, the County Palatine of Durham, the Town
of Newcastle upon Tyne, the City of Durham, Nottingham, the County and Town of Nottingham, the County
Palatine of Chester, the County of the City of Chester,
the County Palatine of Lancaster, Lincolneshire, the
County and City of Lincolne, Darbyshire, Staffordshire,
the County of the City of Lichefeild, the City of Yorke
and County of the same, and the Town and County of
Kingston upon Hull, shall pay all and every the Sums of
Money by him or them collected or received, by Virtue
of this Act, to the Lord Mayor of the City of Yorke for
the Time being, and to Thomas Hodgeson, Hen. Thompson, and William Scott, of the said City, at the Chamber
in the said City of Yorke; for and towards the Payment
of Billet-money due and owing to the several Inhabitants
of Yorkshire, and the Counties adjacent, for the Billetting
of his Majesty's Army; as also for and towards the Payment of such Monies as are due and owing by the Parliament, to the Counties of Durham and Northumberland, and the City of Durham, and Town of Newcastle
upon Tyne; any thing in this present Act to the contrary
in any wise notwithstanding.
Resolved, upon the Question, That this Proviso be
referred to Mr. Serjeant Wilde, to be inserted into the
Bill for Four hundred thousand Pounds, and to present
the same unto this House.
Bp. of
Durham.
Sir Jo. Strangewayes hath Leave to go to the Bishop
of Durham.
A Message from the Lords by Sir Ro. Rich and Mr.
Page;
Militia, &c.
The Lords have returned this Paper concerning the
Forts and Militia of the Kingdom, and they have agreed;
only they have struck out the Words "Lords and Commons" in the Clause of the Penalty of those that shall not
obey.
PressingSoldiers.
They agree unto the Bill for pressing Soldiers.
Bishops Temporal Jurisdiction.
They agree unto the Reasons for inducing his Majesty
to pass the Bill for disenabling all Persons in holy Orders to exercise any temporal Jurisdiction.
They have appointed Two Lords, Members of their
House, to attend his Majesty with those Reasons; and
desire this House to appoint a proportionable Number
to join with the Lords.
Lord Herbert, Sir Ro. Crane, Sir Edw. Hales, Mr.
Jo. Bellassis, are appointed, with the Lords, to attend
his Majesty.
Answer returned by the same Messengers; That this
House hath appointed a proportionable Number, as is
desired.
Resolved, upon the Question, That this House shall
adhere to their former Vote of this House, concerning
those that shall not obey, to answer their Contempt to the
Lords and Commons in Parliament.
Militia, &c.
Lord Ruthyn was appointed to go up to the Lords to
desire a free Conference, concerning the Lords Amendments to the Ordinance concerning the Forts and Militia.
Mr. Pierrepoint, Mr. Grimston, Mr. Glyn, are appointed Managers of this free Conference: And are
to meet to prepare Reasons for this Conference, and to
present them to the House.