House of Commons Journal Volume 3
2 May 1644

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'House of Commons Journal Volume 3: 2 May 1644', Journal of the House of Commons: volume 3: 1643-1644 (1802), pp. 476-477. URL: http://www.british-history.ac.uk/report.aspx?compid=10770 Date accessed: 01 August 2014.


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Die Jovis, 2 Maii, 1644.

Colonel Farrer, &c.

ORDERED, That the Governor of Gloucester do take care to send up Lieutenant Colonel Farrer, to answer such Informations as are against him, for not delivering over such Monies as were trusted unto him, and assigned for the Garison. The Governor and Mayor are likewise desired to take care, that Sir Rob. Pye's Servant have free Egress and Regress into Three or Four Rooms in the House, late in the Possession of James Powell, and now in Possession of Lieutenant Colonel Farrer; and take care of the Goods of Sir Rob. Pye, that are there laid up. And the Governor is desired to interpose his Care and Authority, that none of them may be embezzled or disposed of; and for the Recovery of such as have been embezzled or otherwise made use of.

Shropshire.

Ordered, That the Ordinance, concerning Shropshire, be read To-morrow Morning.

Associated Counties.

Ordered, That the Ordinance concerning the Eight associated Counties, brought in by Sir Tho. Barrington, be read To-morrow Morning.

Ordination of Ministers.

The humble Advice, presented by the Assembly of Divines, concerning the Doctrinal and Directory Part of Ordination of Ministers, and the Rules to be observed therein, were this Day read the Second time; and, upon the Question, committed to a Committee of the whole House.

Resolved, &c. That the House shall be forthwith resolved into a Grand Committee, to take into Consideration the Doctrinal Part, and Directory Part, of the Advice, presented by the Assembly of Divines, concerning Ordination of Ministers.

Person committed.

Resolved, &c. That * Butler, late High Sheriff of the County of Pembroke, shall be forthwith committed Prisoner to the Compter in Southwarke; and there remain during the Pleasure of the House; for levying and being in actual War against the King and Parliament.

Money for Scotts Army.

Resolved, &c. That Twenty thousand Pounds shall be presently sent to the Scotts Army in the North; and that it be referred to the Committee at Goldsmiths Hall, to take care, that this Sum be sent accordingly: And it is referred to them, to consider of some Means and Expedient for the raising and procuring this Sum, within the Time limited, by the Ways propounded, or any other honourable and just Way: And that the Committee appointed to consider of them, that come in upon the Declaration of both Kingdoms, do meet To-morrow with the Committee at Goldsmiths Hall, to consider of raising Monies by such as come in upon the Declaration of both Kingdoms.

Letters to Earl of Leven, &c.

Several Letters to be sent from both Houses, to the Earl of Leven; One to the Committee of the Convention of Estates with the Scotts Army in the North; One to the Lord Fairefaxe: The which were all read; and, by Vote, assented unto; and ordered to be sent unto the Lords, for their Concurrence.

Minister to Scotts Committee.

Resolved, &c. That this House doth approve of and consent, that Mr. Bowles, Minister, be sent down to the Committee with the Scotts Army, to employ his Endeavours with them, as Chaplain to that Committee: And that it be referred to the Committee at Goldsmiths Hall, to make Allowance to Mr. Bowles for his Pains undergone, by Occasion of his Residence with the Committee of Scotland; and his Journey thither, and back again; and to furnish him with so much Monies as shall be requisite to accommodate him for his Journey; and that the Letters to the Earl of Leven, the Lord Fairefaxe, and the Committees, be sent by Mr. Bowles.

Army Accounts.

"The humble Petition of divers of the Chief Officers of your Excellency's Army, here present, in the Behalf of themselves, and the rest of the Officers of the Army, concerning the Proceedings of the Committee of Accounts, in taking the Accounts of the Army," was this Day read.

Resolved, &c. That the Committee for Accounts shall forbear any further Proceedings in the Accounts of the Officers of my Lord General's Army, that are now to go forth, till the House take further Order.

Army.

Ordered, That Sir Philip Stapilton do desire my Lord General to issue forth a Proclamation, to command all the Officers and Soldiers of the Brigade under the Command of Sir William Waller, to repair forthwith to their Colours; and likewise for the Officers and Soldiers of all other Armies, to repair forthwith to their Colours.

Propositions for Peace.

Ordered, That the House do sit To-morrow, to take into Consideration the Propositions for a safe Peace.

Message from Lords.

A Message from the Lords, by Sir Edward Leech and Dr. Aylett;

The Lords have sent down a Covenant, to be tendered to the Women Servants attending upon the King's Children at St. James's: They have likewise sent down an Order for nominating and constituting Four Messengers to attend the Great Seal, and the Receipt of the Exchequer: In both which they desire the Concurrence of this House.

The Covenant.

The Covenant, to be tendered to the Women Servants attending the King's Children at St. James's, was this Day read the First and Second time; and, upon the Question, committed unto the Members of this House, that are of the Committee for St. James's.

Messengers to Great Seal, &c.

The Ordinance for the Four Messengers to attend the Seal, and the Receipt of the Exchequer, was likewise read; and, by Vote assented unto.

Answer to Lords.

Answer returned by the same Messengers; That this House has considered their Lordships Message; and, as to the Ordinance for the Covenant, they will send Answer by Messengers of their own: And, as to the Ordinance for appointing Four Messengers to attend the Seal, and the Receipt of the Exchequer, they do concur with the Lords therein.

Ordination of Ministers.

Ordered, That the Order made for resolving the House now into a Committee, to consider of the Advice presented by the Assembly of Divines, concerning the Ordination of Ministers, be continued and observed on Saturday next.

Reasons to be offered to Lords.

Mr. Crue reports, from the Committee appointed to consider of Reasons to be offered to the Lords, touching the Earl of Manchester's Ordinance; and something for Vindication of the Honour and Privilege of this House; some Observation for the Vindication of the Honour and Privilege of the House: The which was read; and recommitted unto the same Committee: And they are to bring it in To-morrow, the first Business; together with an Answer to the Lords Reasons.

Aylisbury Garison.

Ordered, That Sir Walt. Erle and Mr. Fountaine do go to my Lord General, and acquaint him with the Informations that this House has received, That most of the Soldiers of the Garison of Aylisbury have deserted it: And to desire his Lordship, to take some speedy Course for the Safety and Preservation of that Town.

Messengers to Great Seal, &c.

Whereas the Lords, and others, Commissioners for the Great Seal of England, according to an Order of the Lords and Commons, in Parliament, dated the Fourth of March last, have nominated and approved of Michael Baker, Thomas Parker, John Guyott, and Andrew Durant, for the Four Messengers attending the Receipt of the Exchequer, and the Service of the Great Seal of England; It is this Day Ordered, by the Lords and Commons, in Parliament assembled, That Oliver St. John Esquire, his Majesty's Solicitor General, be hereby authorized to draw up several Patents, to pass the Great Seal, to each of the said Messengers, of the said Offices, Quamdiu se bene gesserint, in as large and ample Manner, and in such Sort, as hath been formerly granted by his Majesty unto others, who have executed the same Places: And the Commissioners of the Great Seal are hereby also authorized to pass the same Patents, under the Great Seal, accordingly.

Hull Garison.

Whereas by Ordinance of both Houses of Parliament, dated the Ninth of February last, the Receipts of the Excise, in the Town and County of Kingston upon Hull, are assigned to be paid to the Right Honourable Ferdinando Lord Fairfax, for and towards the Payment of the Garison of Hull: Upon which Ordinance there hath been already paid, by the Sub Commissioners of the Excise there, unto Captain William Harrison, Treasurer for the Northern Army, the Sum of Eight hundred Pounds the Second of April last: It is hereby Declared, by the Lords and Commons, in Parliament assembled, That the said Receipt for the Eight hundred Pounds aforesaid shall be a sufficient Discharge unto the Commissioners of Excise. And it is further Ordained, by the said Lords and Commons, That the Receipt or Receipts of the said Lord Fairfax, or of the Treasurer for the Northern Army, for the Use of the Garison aforesaid, shall, from time to time, be a sufficient Discharge unto the said Commissioners of Excise, for so much Monies as shall be paid by their Sub Commissioners at Kingston upon Hull, as aforesaid, until both Houses shall take further Order, according to the said Ordinance of the Seventh of February last.