Die Mercurii, 10 Nov. 1641.
THE humble Petition of the Trained Band of the
Liberty of the Duchy, in the Strond, was this Day
read: And it is Ordered, That it be recommended to the
Earl of Essex, Earl of Dorsett, and Earl of Holland;
desiring them to take into their special Consideration
Sir Tho. Fisher, mentioned in the Petition.
Disbanding the Army.
Mr. Pymme reports the Declaration made by the Earl
of Holland, of his Proceedings in the Disbanding of the
Army, which was delivered at a Conference, desired by
the Lords for that Purpose.
Mr. Wheeler reports from the Committee appointed
to consider what Recompence is fit to be given to the
Trained Bands, that have the Guard of the City of
Westminster; and for the Filling the Trained Bands of
the County of Midd.
It is agreed, that the Officers and Soldiers shall have
It is agreed, that the same Pay shall be given them,
according to the List hereafter.
That this Pay shall begin on Monday next. And, for
the time past, the Recompence is referred to the Consideration of this House.
The Watch began 20° Octobr.
That, for the orderly Pay of them, that a Clerk be
appointed, as well for the Paying of them, as View of
them; and to keep Rolls.
That this their Pay shall be made out of the Pollmoney remaining in the Charge of the Treasurers of
That the Deputy Lieutenants of the County of Midd.
shall bring in the Names of such Persons as they will
compleat their Companies withal to the Committee, to
be presented unto the House.
That, in regard the Company of Westminster is very
large, and the great Increase of new Inhabitants and able
Men to bear Arms, that the Deputy Lieutenants shall
consider how the same may be divided into Two or more
Companies, so as there may be Two hundred Men in
To consider of some Way of punishing Defaulters, and
such as are unruly.
That the Officers of the Four Neighbour Companies
shall be treated withal: And, out of these Companies, to
have a hundred Men, who may watch in Turns day
|One hundred Men, at Twelve-pence per diem,
|One Captain, - - - - -
|One Lieutenant, - - - - -
|One Ensign, - - - - -
|Two Serjeants, at Eighteen-pence per diem,
|Two Drums, at Twelve-pence per diem, -
|Clerk, per diem, - -
E. of Holland thanked.
Ordered, That Mr. Pimme shall return to the Earl of
Holland Thanks, in the Name of the House, for his great
Care in the Disbanding of the Army.
Ordered, That Mr. Hotham, Sir Wm. Lewis, Sir Gilbert Gerard, and Mr. Strode, shall deliver unto the Earls
of Essex, Dorsett, and Holland, the Petition of the
Trained Band, recommended unto them from this House.
Gold and Silver Thread.
Whereas the Commission, Instructions, and Orders, of
the Commissioners for Regulating of Gold and Silver
Thread, &c. were, by former Order, brought into the
Custody of the Clerk of this House; and afterwards by
an Order of the Ninth of July, delivered forth, for the
Use of the Commissioners for the Regulating the Trade
of Gold and Silver Thread, as by the said Order of the
9° Julii may appear: It is this Day Ordered, That the
said Commissioners, or any other, in whose Custody the
said Instructions, Commission and Orders, now are, shall
forthwith deliver the same into the Custody of the Clerk;
to the end that all Parties whom they do concern may
make use of them at their several Trials.
Memorandum. This Day Sir John Clotworthy had
from me the Letter of the 2d of Nov. from
Sir John Temple to the Lord Lieutenant of
Supply for Ireland.
Ordered, That the Eleven thousand Pounds, paid by
the Treasurers for the Subsidy for the Use of the Irish
Affairs, shall be repaid, towards the Debts due from this
House to the several Counties, according to the Act of
Parliament, as soon as the same is received again out of
the Fifty thousand Pounds to be lent by the City of
London: And also, that the Monies now received at
Yorke, and the Monies which shall hereafter be received,
shall be paid for the Use aforesaid.
Specie for Ireland.
Resolved, upon the Question, That the Merchants who
have made the Proposition to this House of transporting
foreign Coin in Specie into Ireland, for the present Occasions of that Kingdom, shall have Liberty to transport so
much only as the Lords and Commons in Parliament shall
from time to time give them Order and Directions for;
paying it there as it passes by Proclamation: And that
all Sums, so transported, shall be registred in the Customhouse: And that they shall bring Certificates from the
Ports where they shall land the said Monies, that they
have landed so much there.
And it is farther Ordered, That Report of this Proposition shall be made to the Lords, at the next Conference;
and their Lordships desired to join in this Order.
Ordered, That the Trained Bands that guard about
Westminster, shall be paid after the Rate of Eighteenpence per diem, rateably, for so many as shall watch, so
long as they shall continue in this Service; and that their
Pay shall begin from Monday last: And Sir Ro. Pye and
Mr. Wheeler are appointed to pay this Money, out of the
Monies received by them.
Soldiers going beyond Sea, &c.
Ordered, That, at a Conference to be desired with the
Lords, their Lordships may be made acquainted, that
this House was misinformed concerning the List of the
Soldiers to go beyond Sea (being informed, they were
Walloones, and other Strangers) and that the Intention
of this House was, not to give way to any Irish to be
transported; neither doth the Order of this House extend
to any Persons, Subjects of the King's; but only to
Strangers: And to move the Lords, that such of them
as are Persons to be suspected may be examined.
The Lord Herbert is appointed to go to the Lords, to
desire a Conference with their Lordships, concerning the
Payment to Cremer.
Ordered, That Sir Ro. Pye and Mr. Wheeler do pay
Mr. Cremer Twenty Marks, for his Charges to West
Chester, and back again; being employed in the Service
of this House.
Council of War.
Ordered, That the Lords be moved, at a Conference,
that Sir Rob. Kinge and Colonel Colpeper may be added
to those that are of the Council of War.
Resolved, upon the Question, That Raphiel Tartara
and Tho. Trarary shall be forthwith discharged from
Royal Family's Servants.
Ordered, That, at the next Conference, the Lords shall
be moved, that the Servants of the King, Queen, Prince,
and the rest of the King's Children, may, according to
the Law, take the Oaths of Allegiance and Supremacy.
The Lord Herbert brings Answer, that he had delivered
the Commands of this House; and that the Lords will
give a present Meeting, as is desired.
Mr. Pym, Sir Tho. Barrington, Mr. Hollis, Sir John
Clotworthy, Sir Hen. Vane, are appointed Managers of
Henley's &c Propositions.
PROPOSITIONS made by Mr.Henley and Mr.Hawckridge; viz.
First, Mr. Henley and Mr. Hawkridge are to pay to
Sir Adam Loftus the full Sum of Twenty thousand
Pounds, that is, Six thousand Pounds upon Sight; and
the other Fourteen thousand Pounds within Fifteen Days,
after Fifteen thousand Pounds shall be paid here.
And the said Mr. Henley and Mr. Hawkridge are to
receive Ten thousand Pounds in hand, Five thousand
Pounds more at Six Days, and Five thousand Pounds
more at Two Months.
And they are to have a Licence for the Transporting of
Twenty thousand Pounds, of Spanish Money: And they
are to have the Use of such Shipping as is appointed to
transport Money for the present Service in Ireland: And
they are to make Entry of the said Sum in the Customhouse: And they are to bring Certificates from the Ports
in Ireland where they shall land the said Monies, that
they have landed so much there.
Resolved, upon the Question, That this House doth
assent to these Propositions.
Memorandum, Mr. Pimme had from me the Examination of Mr. Cremer, to deliver to the Lords, at a
A Message from the Lords, by Dr. Bennett and Dr.
The Lords desire a present Conference, by a Committee of both Houses in the Painted Chamber, if it may
stand with the Conveniency of this House, touching the
Matter of the last Conference.
Answer returned, by the same Messengers; That this
House has taken their Lordships Message into Consideration; and will give a present Meeting as is desired.
Ordered, That those that managed the last Conference
shall report This.
Letters from Antwerpe.
Ordered, That the Committee of this House, shall
when this Conference shall be ended, peruse the Letters
from Antwerpe, with the Committee of the Lords.
Ordered, That the Committee appointed to consider of
the Bill for Redeeming of the Captives of Algiers do
meet To-morrow Morning at Eight of Clock, in the usual
Mr. Pym reports, that the Lords had agreed to each
particular Clause of the Conference desired by this House
The Order for resuming the Consideration of the Remonstrance was read:
And accordingly the House proceeded to the Consideration thereof.
That a Consideration be had of adding.. the Remonstrance the Sermons preached in divers Places before the
King, "that the Subject had no Property in his Estate:"
The Prayer, that was set forth by the Bishops, wherein
they call the Scotts "Rebels:"
The Clergy's Contribution, before the Convocation:
The Imprisonment of the Aldermen of London.
Ordered, That the Clerk shall give out no Copies of
this Declaration, till the House has fully perfected it.
Ordered, That the House shall resume the Consideration of the Declaration To-morrow Morning at Ten of