Die Jovis, 19 Januari, 1642.
A LETTER from divers of the Committees of Suffolk, from St. Edmund's-bury, desiring that the
Knights of the Shire, and Gentlemen that serve for the
County, may be sent down to further the Service of the
Association in that County.
Ordered, That the Knights of the Shire, and the Gentlemen that serve for the County of Suffolk, do meet
together, and consider whom they think fit to be sent
down into that County, for the Service of the Association
there, and report it to the House.
Scotch Army in Ireland.
Ordered, That the Muster Rolls sent from the Scotts
Army in Ulster in Ireland, be referred to the Consideration of the Committee for the Affairs of Ireland, to
consider of the said Muster Rolls; and to report to the
Ordered, That the Owners of the Goods stayed in the
Waggons that were going to Oxford, and brought back
by Order of the House, shall pay the Expences and
Charges of bringing them back again.
Leave to visit a Prisoner.
Sir Wm. Drake has Leave to visit Mr. Denham, a
Importation of Currans.
Ordered, That the Commissioners and Collectors of
the Customs do not permit the Importation of Currans
into this Port: And that the Committee for the Customs
do give speedy Notice to all the Officers of the Out
Ports, or Dominion of Wales.
Proceeding against Crispe.
Ordered, That the Examination of the Business concerning Sir Nic. Crispe be referred to the former Committee appointed for that Business: And that he remain
in Custody in the mean time: And that Mr. Beding feild
and Mr. Glynn be added to this Committee: And that
this Committee do prepare a Charge against him, for
defrauding his Majesty and the Commonwealth.
Payment to Treasurer at War.
Ordered, That Sir Hen. Vaine do forthwith pay unto
Sir Gilbert Gerard, Treasurer at Wars, Ten thousand
Pounds, out of the Twenty thousand Pounds ordered to
be paid him by the new Customers.
Resolved, upon the Question, That Ten thousand
Pounds per Annum shall be allowed these new Customers
for their Salary.
Resolved, &c. That it be referred to the Committee of
the Navy, to consider what Allowance shall be made to
the Clerks; and to report it to the House.
Resolved, &c. That the Commissioners shall have the
Power to Placing, Displacing, and Removing of their
Clerks, Secretaries, and Deputy Collectors.
Resolved &c. That the Commissioners shall have
Power to nominate Searchers, Waiters, Tidesmen, Noon
Tenders, Watchmen, and all their Deputy Officers.
Resolved, &c. That these Officers thus nominated by
the Commissioners shall be approved of by the Committee
of the Navy;- This Question being propounded;
|The House was divided.
|The Noes went forth.
||Tellers for the Noe, 35.
||Tellers for the Yea, 50.
|Sir H. Vaine,
|So that the Question passed with the Affirmative.
Collectors of Customs.
Ordered, That it be referred to the Committee for the
Navy to receive the positive Answer of the Collectors
of the Customs to the Articles and Directions presented
from the Committee; and to report them to the House
Propositions to the King.
Mr. Holles reports, from the Conference Yesterday
had with the Lords, the Alterations and Amendments to
the Propositions sent up from this House.
The first Alteration was a Clause altered in the Preamble: The which the House assented unto; with Two
Additions: The first, After the Word "Parliament"
and before the Word "and," insert these Words, "raised
an Army against it; and by Force thereof protected
Delinquents from the Justice of it;" The second, After
the Word "Newcastle," add these Words, "and by
making the Lord Herbert of Ragland, and other known
Papists, to be Commanders of other great Forces."
The second Alteration was, these Words to be left out;
viz. "All which several Courses of Forces and Violence
have been the Causes of our raising and continuing Arms:"
To the Leaving out of which the House assented.
The next Alteration was touching the first Proposition,
to be thus altered; viz. "That Your Majesty will be
pleased to disband Your Armies; as we likewise shall
be ready to disband all those Forces which we have
raised; and that Your will be pleased to return to Your
To this Alteration the House likewise assented, by
Vote upon the Question.
The next Alteration was, in the Sixth Proposition,
these Words to be left out; viz. "and be for ever disabled by Act of Parliament to bear any Office, or have
any Employment, concerning the State or Commonwealth;" in regard that no particular Charge appears
And as to this Alteration, the House resolved, by
Vote, to adhere to their former Vote.
Mr. Holles farther reported, That concerning the Eighth
Proposition, touching the Nomination of Judges, they
desire a Meeting by a select Committee of both Houses:
And that the Lords had named Six of their Members.
He farther reported, That the Lords do agree to the
Declaratory Vote of this House, touching the Ordinance
of the Militia, not to be invalided by the Proposition
concerning the Militia.
The House considered no farther of the Propositions
at this Time; but Ordered, That the House should,
To-morrow, at Nine of Clock, resume the farther
Consideration of them.
Payments to Treasurer at War, &c.
Ordered, by the Commons, That Sir Henry Vane
junior, Treasurer of the Navy, do forthwith pay unto Sir
Gilbert Gerard, Treasurer of the Wars, the Sum of Ten
thousand Pounds, out of the Twenty thousand Pounds
to be paid unto the said Sir Henry Vane, from the new
Commissioners of the Customs: And the Receipt of the
said Sir Gilbert Gerard, together with this Order, shall
be a sufficient Discharge, upon Account, to the said Sir
And it is further Ordered, That the Treasurers of the
Subscriptions and Propositions in Guildhall, London, do
pay out of the first Monies coming into their Hands, the
Sum of Ten thousand Pounds, unto Sir Gilbert Gerard
Knight, Treasurer of the Wars: Who is hereby ordered
forthwith, upon the Receipt thereof, to pay the same unto
Sir Henry Vane junior, Treasurer of the Navy; in lieu of
the said Sum formerly paid by him out of the Twenty
thousand Pounds received from the Commissioners of
the Customs: And the Receipt of the said Sir Henry
Vane, with this Order, shall be the sufficient Discharge
unto the said Sir Gilbert Gerard, upon Account.
And it is further Ordered, That Sir Gilbert Gerard
make no other Disbursements, till the Sum of Ten
thousand Pounds be first satisfied; unless it be such
Sums as are assigned to be returned, together with this
Sum to my Lord General.