Die Lunæ, 12 Julii, 1641.
THAT the Printing of the Pamphlet, intituled, The
true Relation of the French Ambassage: And another Pamphlet, intituled, The Brownists Conventicle; be
referred to the Committee for Printing, where Sir Edw.
Deering has the Chair: And That Committee is to meet
this Afternoon: And all, that will come, are to have
Voices at this Committee.
Afternoon Lectures in Churches.
Ordered, That in all parochial Churches of England
and Wales, where there is on the Lord's Day no Preaching in the Afternoon, if the Parishioners will maintain a
conformable Lecturer at their own Charge, the Parson
or Vicar shall give Way unto it; unless the Parson will
Petitions, &c. net to stop Proceedings in Courts.
The House doth declare, and so Order, that no Petition, or Bill, depending here, shall cause any Stop in any
Proceedings in the Courts of Justice at Westminster, or
elsewhere, upon any Matter contained in the said Bill
and Petition, without special Order from this House.
Report to be made.
Wednesday Morning Eight of Clock is appointed for
the Report to be made concerning the Four Shires.
That Mr. Speaker shall direct his Warrant to the Clerk
of the Crown in Chancery, for issuing forth a new Writ,
for Electing of a new Burgess to serve for the City of
Coventry, in the Place and Stead of Mr. Norton, formerly
returned to serve for that Place, and since deceased.
Sir John Hotham and Mr. Valentine, are required to
go to the Lord Keeper, to move him for the speedy
Issuing out of Commissions, concerning the Raising of
the Monies appointed.
That the Auditors of the King's Revenues, and such
other Officers whom... shall think to be necessary for
that Service, shall attend the Treasurers with the Subsidy-books, to the end that they may understand what
Rates every particular Man is appointed to pay.
Message to Lords.
Mr. Hampden carried up the Bill of Tonage and
Poundage; with Directions, that his Majesty may be
moved to give his Royal Assent with as much Speed as
He is likewise to move the Lords, that the Bills concerning Pluralities, and Disarming of Recusants, may be
Whereas Information is given, that there is a Ship at
Chester Key, in the Port of London, laden with Leather:
It is this Day Ordered, That * Ellis the Searcher, who
refuses to search the said Ship, and the Master of the said
Ship, shall be summoned forthwith to attend this
House: And that the Ship shall be staid, and the Leather brought * and kept in safe Custody, till the House
shall take further Order therein: And Robert Barthorpp
and Henry Walker, who informed the House of the
said Ship and Goods, are required to go along with the
Serjeant, or his Deputy; who is appointed to make Stay
of the said Ship.
Ordered, That Ten Dozen of the best Sort, and Ten
Dozen of the worst Sort, of those Hides, which were
seized on Saturday last by Order of this House, shall be
brought to Westminster Stairs forthwith, to be viewed by
some Members of this House; to the End the House
may be informed of what Condition they are: and of
the great Abuse that hath been heretofore practised in
Transporting of Leather.
The House doth declare, that all such as are utter
Barristers ought to pay Ten Pounds, within the Intention of the Statute.
Ordered, That all such Members of the House, as are
returned Esquires, shall not pay under Ten Pounds for
their Rates assessed upon them, by Force of an Act, intituled, An Act for the speedy Provision of Money, &c.
That all such Members of this House, as shall not have
paid in their Monies, according to a former Order, by
Thursday next, shall pay double the Sum they ought to
have paid, unless they be out of Town with Leave of
Ordered, That the Benchers of every Inns of Court,
shall be authorized, by this House, to receive the Money
payable by the Act, intituled, An Act for the speedy
Provision of Monies, &c. from such as are Members of
their several Societies; and also to receive, from the
Principals of the several Inns of Chancery, belonging to
their Societies, such Monies as are paid by the Members of the several Inns of Chancery.
And it is further Ordered, That the Benchers of the said
Societies of the Inns of Court shall present a List of the
Names of such Persons as have paid in their Monies; and
also of the Sums paid by them; to the end that it may
appear to the Treasurers who have paid in their Monies,
that they may give Acquittances to the several Persons
that have paid in their Monies.
Message from the Lords, by the Master of the Rolls
and Serjeant Ayliffe;
That they came to give this House Notice, that some
of the Lords had been with the King, touching the
Manifesto: And his Majesty appointed Three of Clock
in the Afternoon, for both Houses to attend him:
And further, the Lords desire this House to appoint
a select Committee, proportionable to their Number of
Twelve; to consider whether it be fit to move his
Majesty any further touching that Business:
And lastly, that they desired this House to sit this
Afternoon, at Five of the Clock, if it may stand with the
Conveniency of this House: For they will sit at that time;
and hope to procure his Majesty to come in Person, to
pass the Bill of Tonage and Poundage, which hath passed
Answer returned, by the same Messengers; that this
House taketh Notice of his Majesty's Command; and will
give a present Meeting, by a select Committee, as is
desired; and will sit in the Afternoon at Five of the
Answer from Lords.
Mr. Hampden brings Answer, that he had delivered the
Commands of this House to the Lords, concerning the
Bills of Pluralities, and Disarming of Recusants, and
the Bill of Tonage and Poundage.
Committee to meet Lords.
Sir Walter Erle, Sir Tho. Barrington, Mr. Pym, *
Cholmley, Sir Edw. Hungerford, Sir Ben. Rudyard, Sir
Symonds D'Ewes, Sir John Colpepper, Sir Antho. Irby, Sir
John Strangewayes, Sir Wm. Armyn, Mr. Hampden, Sir
Sam. Rolle, Sir Philip Stapleton, Mr. Hollis, Sir Hen.
Mildmay, Sir Gilbert Gerrard, Sir John Wraye, Sir
John Evelyn, Lord Ruthyn, Lord Cramborne, Sir Robert
Harley, Sir John Hotham, * St. John.
This Committee is presently to meet with a select
Committee of the Lords,
All, that will come, are to have Voices at the Committee for the Bill concerning Emanuell College.
Ordered, That the Company of Vintners shall be heard
before the Committee on Thursday next at Two post
meridiem, in the usual Place.
Ordered, That the House shall be resolved into a Grand
Committee, To-morrow Morning at Nine of Clock, to
proceed with the Bill concerning Episcopacy: And Mr.
Speaker is to put the House in mind of this Order: And
Mr. Speaker is to interrupt all Business at that Time.
Ordered, That the County of Norfolk shall have Liberty
to have Threescore Chaldron of Fullers Earth delivered
upon good Security at Yarmouth and Lynne, in the same
manner as Suff' and Essex formerly had an Order from
Mr. Hollis reports from the Conference by a select
* * * *
Exactions from Sheriffs.
Ordered, That the Committee for the Bill concerning
Exactions upon Sheriffs shall sit To-morrow post meridiem, in the Star-chamber.
Resolved, upon the Question, That this House doth
assent, that the Speaker of the Lords House shall present
unto his Majesty, in the Name of both Houses, the
humble Advice of both Houses, concerning the Manifesto.
Ordered, That Sir John Evelyn shall make his Report
concerning the Lord Digby To-morrow by Eight of
Clock; and the Serjeant is to give the Lord Digby Notice
hereof, that he may give his Answer, if he please.
Report to be made.
That the Report of the Message from the Lords, concerning Honour, shall be made on Thursday Morning.
Moved, That Mr. Fynes' Business may be considered
of at the Meeting of the House this Afternoon.
Allowance to Collectors.
ORDERED, That the Committee for settling some
Allowance to be made to Collectors, and other Officers,
for their Pains employed about the Collecting of the
Monies payable by an Act of Parliament, intituled, An
Act for the speedy Provision of Monies, &c. do sit Tomorrow at Two of Clock, in the Exchequer-court.
According to an Order this Day made, the Parcels of
Leather were brought into the House: And some Shoemakers, that prosecuted the Business, were likewise called
in; and the House was informed by them, of the Value
of those Hides; and of the Abuses in the Transporting.
Ordered, That no Calves Skins, or Hides whatsoever,
shall be transported by Force of the Patent granted for
the Transportation of Calves Skins, until the House shall
have given their Opinion of the Patent, and declare their
further Order herein : And that the Chairman, who has
the said Patent in his Custody, bring it in To-morrow
Morning to the House:
That it be referred to the Committee for the Customers
to enquire after the whole Business of Transportation of
Leather; and of the Abuses practised by the Customers,
Comptrollers, Searchers, Surveyors, Packers, Merchants,
and others, in the Transportation thereof.
And it is further Ordered, That this Committee shall
examine the Delivery of the Skins at Dover.
Ordered, That Mr. King give an Account, To-morrow,
to the Information given in to this House against him,
that he, contrary to the Vote of the Committee, appointed
Skins to be delivered, that were formerly commanded to
be staid by the said Committee.
This Committee is likewise ordered to send for the
Wharfinger of Ralfe's Key, to examine him concerning
the Transporting of great Quantities of the best Hides,
from the Port of London into Yorkshire, by Force of a
Warrant from the Council-board: And are to meet, in the
Star-chamber, To-morrow Morning at Six of Clock.
Officers of the House.
Ordered, That the Committee appointed to consider of
the Monies to be distributed among the Officers of the
House, and others, do sit on Wednesday next at Two post
meridiem, in the usual Place.
Leave of Absence.
Mr. Tomkins has Leave to go into the Country, for
some convenient time.
Ordered, That Mr. John Walch; who has a Petition
depending before the Committee for Irish Affairs, (which
Committee cannot sit to consider of it) shall have Liberty
to withdraw his Petition, &c.
Whereas Mr. Nolarr has Two Petitions depending before the Committee for Irish Affairs; and that Committee
has not Power to assign him a Day for his Bringing of Witnesses out of Ireland to be produced in the same Cause:
It is this Day Ordered, That the said Committee shall
have Power to assign him some Day, at the first Meeting
of the House after the next Recess, for the Producing of
Ordered, That, on Saturday Morning next, the ingrossed
Articles against the Bishop of Ely shall be read; and
the Report made.... the Charge against the Bishop of
Bath and Wells; and the Transmission of St. Gregorie's
Church; be likewise read.
Business to be expedited.
Mr. Treasurer, Sir Walter Erle, Sir Gilbert Gerrard,
Sir Sam. Rolle, Mr. Hollis, Sir Wm. Massam, Mr. Selden,
* Lewis, Sir Wm. Uvedale, * Goodwin, Sir Tho. Barrington, Sir Philip Stapleton, Sir Antho. Irby, Mr. Capell,
Lord Dungarvon, Sir Wm. Armyn, Sir H. Vane, Mr.
Morley, Mr. Pym, Mr. Fines, Lord Falkland, Sir John
Hotham, * Middleton, Mr. Hampden.
This Committee is to present to the House, what Businesses are fit to be considered of: that those of the most
publick Concernment may be expedited by the Tenth of
August: And are to meet To-morrow at Seven of Clock,
in the Court of Wards.
Scandalous Ministers, &c.
Ordered, That the Knights, Citizens, and Burgesses, of
this House, do, by Wednesday next, present to this House
fit Names for Commissioners, to be inserted into the Bill
for scandalous Ministers, for their several Counties, Cities,
and Boroughs: And they are likewise to consider, what
Proportion of Ammunition and Arms will be necessary
for every County, City, and Borough; and to report it
to the House.
Ratcliffe's, &c. Indictments.
Ordered, That all the Lawyers of the House shall meet,
to consider of the several Indictments of Sir George
Ratcliffe and the Archbishop of Canterbury.
Forts and Castles.
It was moved, That the Order should be revived, for
the Members of the House to consider, what Forts and
Castles are in their several Counties; and under whose
Command; and the Conditions and Qualities of the
Persons that have the Command of them.
Regulating Arms, &c.
vice lecta est Billa, An Act for Regulating of Arms,
and Appointing of Musters.
Message from Lords.
A Message from the Lords, by Sir Edward Leech and
The Lords did send some of their House to his Majesty,
to desire his Presence at the Lords House, to give his
Royal Assent to the Bill of Tonage and Poundage.-
Message to attend the King.
The Gentleman Usher of the Lords House acquainted
this House, that his Majesty was in the Lords House,
and expected the Speaker and the House.
King's Answer to the 3d of the 10 Heads.
The Lords desire a Conference, by a Committee of both
Houses, touching his Majesty's Answer to the Third of
the Ten Heads, presently, in the Painted Chamber, if it
may stand with the Conveniency of this House.
Answer returned by the same Messengers;
This House has taken their Lordships Message into
Consideration; and will give a Meeting presently, as is
Mr. Treasurer, Mr. Hollis, Mr. Pym, Sir H. Vane, Sir
Wm. Litton, Sir Philip Stapleton, are appointed Reporters of this Conference.
Mr. Treasurer reports the Conference: - Delivered
Two Papers: Which were read in hæc Verba:
"My Answer is, that I know of none; the which methinks should both satisfy, and be believed, I having
granted all hitherto demanded by Parliament: Nor do I
expect that any should be so unadvised, as by Slander, or
any other Ways, to deter any, that I trust in my publick
Affairs, from giving me free Counsel; especially, since
Freedom of Speech is always demanded, and never refused, to Parliaments.
"The King signified to this House, that whereas he sent
an Answer this Day to both Houses, concerning the Third
Head; lest there should be any Mistake upon the Word
"Slander," his Majesty declared, he did not mean it of
either Houses of Parliament, nor any Members thereof."
Report to be made.
Ordered, Wednesday Morning for a Report to be made,
concerning the Design, from the Committee of Seven."
Royal Assent to a Bill.
Mr. Maxwell came down, and acquainted this House,
that the Lords did desire them to come up to the Passing
of the Bill for Tonage and Poundage, by Commission.
Message to the Lords, by Sir Hen. Vane;
To acquaint the Lords, that this House being informed by the Black Rod, that their Lordships desired
this House to come to the Passing of the Bill of Tonage
and Poundage; that in regard it is a free Gift of the
Commons of England, and the Speaker of the House of
Commons ought to present the same, that their Lordships
would be pleased to send the Bill down to this House.
Sir Henry Vane's Answer of the Message to the Lords;
that their Lordships had taken it into Consideration; and
will send an Answer by Messengers of their own.