Cecil Papers
September 1607, 16-30

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'Cecil Papers: September 1607, 16-30', Calendar of the Cecil Papers in Hatfield House, Volume 19: 1607 (1965), pp. 247-264. URL: http://www.british-history.ac.uk/report.aspx?compid=112399 Date accessed: 18 April 2014. Add to my bookshelf


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September 1607, 16-30

The Earl of Dunbar to the Earl of Salisbury.
[1607. Before Sept. 16.]I have received your letter and the two melons. His Majesty gives you thanks for them. He was very glad to have these melons and thinks them exceeding good. I would not for anything but that you had sent them. If you can have more of them they will be very welcome. He is much troubled with the sickness of the sweet Lady Mary, (fn. 1) and has commanded me to write to Lord Carew that Dr. Martten may be sent unto her, and that with all speed he may be advertised of her estate. He is informed that the Scots Ministers who are banished from Scotland are become preachers in the Low Countries to the English and Scots companies that are there. He desires to know by your means whether it be credible.— Undated.
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The Earl of Worcester to the Earl of Salisbury.
[1607], Sept. 16.Doubting lest my warrant will not be sufficient to the Wardrobe for necessaries for the wrapping up of the deceased lady, (fn. 1) I thought good to entreat your assistance to see this bearer provided thereof, the rather in regard neither my Lord Chamberlain nor Sir Roger Aston are present here. My Lord Lyle and my Lord Carew and myself were to attend the Queen this morning, but she presupposed what our news would be, therefore desired that the King might be made acquainted withal, and that we would go to Stanwell to see the lady opened, being extremely desirous to know the certain cause of her death. I sent her word that I had already written to you of her departure, and doubted not but that you would have it imparted to the King, and to know his pleasure touching the funeral; whereof her Majesty is desirous that some charge may be bestowed.— Sept. 16.
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[Printed in extenso in Lodge, Illustrations of British History, Vol. III (ed. 1791), pp. 323, 324.]
The Earl of Dorset, Lord Treasurer, to the Earl of Salisbury.
1607, Sept. 17.Your letter touching our meeting on Saturday at 8 in the morning is doubtful touching the place, whether at Hampton Court, at your house or at my house: I pray you explain it by the messenger. I will not part from the City till I see you and have your consent.—17 Sept., 1607.
PS.—I will write to Mr. Chancellor to be ready with me at that hour.
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The Earl of Shrewsbury to the Earl of Salisbury.
1607, Sept. 17.Your letter from Basing, at your return from Salisbury, I received lying on a couch, plagued in my left foot and my right hand, so as I am neither fit for football nor tennis, nor aught else that is good; yet I trust to be on foot again within this sevennight. Send the enclosed to Mr. Chancellor: I send them open chiefly that I suppose it will make him not the less forward in the business when he knows you are acquainted with it. My wife desires to be in her wonted hearty manner remembered to you.—Sheaffeld Lodge, 17 Sept., 1607.
PS.—The other day I received the enclosed: I writ not to that gentleman these 20 years past, nor mean to do of 20 more to come.
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Sir Charles Yelverton to the Earl of Salisbury.
1607, Sept. 18.He prays no favour for covering offences, but respect amidst his miseries, which, in regard of the dreadfulness of the Tower imprisonment, have made him a blemish to his race and a bye word to the world. He beseeches to be restored to his attendance in Court, whereby the mouths of malicious detractors shall be stopped, his house and family unblemished, and himself greatly comforted.—18 Sept., 1607.
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Sir William Stone, (fn. 2) Thomas Henshaw, Francis Snellinge, Richard Lumley, John Child and Francis Middleton to the Earl of Salisbury.
[1607. Before Sept. 19]Monsieur Beaumont, late Ambassador to the French King, (fn. 3) at his being in England became indebted to the petitioners for commodities to the value of 300l. Not being furnished with money he delivered a bill of exchange in the name of Sir William Stone payable in France upon sight, but he has not as yet made any satisfaction. They pray for directions to the English Ambassador in France for their relief.— Undated.
Petition. 1 p. (197. 92 (2).)
Copy of the above. 1 p. (197. 98 (2).)
John Finet to [Thomas] Wilson "at my Lord of Salisbury's."
1607, Sept. 19/29.I wrote you from Antwerp of the 29 of August, stilo novo, by Henry Ballam, servant to Mr. Questor, Postmaster, as I take him. I have since employed my time at Antwerp and Brussels, where the negotiations of peace hold all men so in expectation and out of action as every day's news are but so many new conjectures and judgments of men interested. The Archduke, they say there, grows in years and out of hope of issue, so is desirous to go to his grave in peace, though upon hard conditions. The soldier cries nothing but war and money, for of this they are most necessitous: no pay, no pensions have been long since delivered them. Those of our soldiers that came thither for conscience make no conscience to return for England, most repining and almost pining for hunger. Of 2,000 there are not 200 remaining. Such as came hither for religion and professed themselves Catholics, look with that uncharitable eye upon us Protestants as I cannot but wonder at the difference between those and them in Italy, with whom you may remember we held at the least a friendly society usque ad aras. These distempers drove me sooner thence than I intended, and brought me about the 24 of August to Paris. Here I find a new face of a country, people and humours; pleasant, changeable in colours and matters, tired with rest, designing enterprises which like Embrions are never like to come to life. They inquire much after the proceedings of the Archdukes and Hollanders, but seem themselves like some lookers on at gaming, not desirous of square play, but wrangling.
The King is still at Paris, and for a heat in his reins takes the waters of Pougues every morning abundantly. The Queen, with her great belly of six months' growth, has been of late dangerously sick, but is now recovered. Madame de la Haye, the King's new and our late French Ambassador's old mistress, is like shortly to put the Parliament to the legitimation of a new bastard. Her late master (that was in England her servant) lives in the meantime disgraced, retired from his wife, and writes verses in the praises of solitariness. They say he was too exacting a broker of de la Haye's merchandise, which made the thrifty King by a third take a directer course, and save 20,000 crowns in the bargain. She now rails at her benefactor. He, to disgrace her, discovers truths formerly concealed: but too late: her cunning, and the King's loving credulity, prove him the only unfortunate.
Here are dead within a short space three Councillors of Estate, Monsieur de Calignon, Chancellor of Navar; Monsieur de Messe, that of the religion: this most affectionate: and both much renowned; and Mr. de Bellievre, Chancellor of France, well known in England. His successor is Monsieur de Sillery, late Ambassador at Rome, now of the Privy Council, and a great manager of the chief affairs of this country. Why may not the deaths of so many notable men near about an instant be a presage of some storm agrowing, wherein the direction of so skilful pilots would be most necessary?
Mons. de Rhony, or as he is now styled, Duc de Sully, has clearly passed the pikes of his enemies' envy and jealousy. The singular charge he had of the most important and secret affairs of France, and his constant support of those of the religion, drave sundry of the greatest of this land to endeavour to supplant him. You have heard I imagine how the financiers (whereof he is chief) were put to the "limbecq" [alembic], and (upon composition) 400,000 for the King, and 100,000 francs for the Queen, distilled from them. The principal of this aim was at Monsieur de Sully (for it was like the head would not prove sound if the members should be found infected); but he showed himself so confident and clear from any just imputation, as the King rests better satisfied of him than ever, and honours and employs before all others. In the meantime the Count of Soyssons his arch-enemy is retired from the Court highly discontented.
The Jesuits seem to be here in more credit than ever. Those which the Venetians banished have here their retreat, and allowed them by the King 9,000 crowns pension. This alteration in him of former resolution is admirable, and held not to be without some great design of advantage; but to say the truth he is in these times the only worker of miracles, and if he hold out proportion I see no reason but he may be canonised before a hundred saints in the calendar. He is said to have bestowed 100,000 on the Hollanders in time of peace to help to entertain their garrisons and the two French regiments there, and will have them set forth 20 ships of war with 6,000 men to serve him whenever he shall request them. In the meantime he endeavours to join them to him in one alliance with the Swyzzers.
The brother of the Prince of Espinoy who was Seneschal of Haynault, had a quarrel lately with a gentleman of good years by name Rambure, Governor of Dorlans, and notwithstanding the King's earnest endeavour to hinder their encounter, met with his enemy in the field, and was there untimely but valiantly slain. He was not past 18 years of age, of great hope, and is much lamented, especially by the ladies, he being held one of the goodliest and amiablest personages of Europe.
I send you herewith a short libel cast out against Father Cotton the famous Jesuit. It is neither of great worth nor wit, yet passable for so distasted a subject.
I long to hear from you, neither would some particulars of our country be unwelcome. I have means here to exchange them to profit, and it will be this month before I go to Orleans. I have presented myself and service to our Ambassador here, and entered my acquaintance with your friend Mr. Beecher. Your letters directed to him will find me where I lodge, "en la rue Zacharias, aupres de St. Severin, chez Mr. le Fort, Musitien."— Paris, 29 Sept., 1607.
PS.—This bearer Mr. Simon Fox of Stradbrook in high Suffolk, may need your assistance to bring him to my Lord of Salisbury.
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Merchants at Stade.
1607, Sept. 19/29.Confirmation by the Emperor, at the request of James I by his letters dated 8 March 1607, and of Reiner Langius, delegate of the English merchants of Stade, of the "Recess" published in Stade 20 February 1602 by the Imperial Commissary Ernfrid von Minkowitz Freiherr Zu Minkowitzburgk and confirmed at the request of the English Ambassador 13 October 1603. The English merchants in Stade are to enjoy their present privileges and to be at liberty to make new agreements when needful with the town of Stade, subject to the approval of the Emperor.—Prague, 29 Sept., 1607.
Copy. Latin. 1½ pp. (122. 96.)
Lord Gerard to the Earl of Salisbury.
1607, Sept. 20.I received a letter from you and Lord Northampton, the copy I enclose, the date is long since, and the copy of your commission not enclosed or delivered. I will lose no time in sending over to the Isle [of Man], and have all things ready to present to you. I am glad the Isle shall return to the heirs male, of which you cannot have that comfort which your friends have, except you had beheld your goodly nephews. Favour me that I may deliver my books of account to you and Lord Northampton, and you may appoint what commissioners you please after; for the Countess of Derby the older, before I had authority from my late Sovereign, received the profits and revenue of the Isle for 4 or 5 years, which I am not answerable for. In what concerns myself, either for revenue, munition or anything I can be charged with, if I deliver not a just account let me lose my credit. What is to be accounted for remains in the Isle, and not with me.—From my house Gerards Bromley, 20 Sept., 1607.
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Sir Thomas Lake to the Earl of Salisbury.
1607, Sept. 21.The Prince of Moldavia had his audience yesterday in the afternoon and delivered to his Majesty these letters and the other paper which goes with them, containing an offer to hold his principality of his Highness and to pay a tribute. The King commanded me to send them to your lordship, and because I hear he is gone to London of purpose to speak with you, I thought it fit to send the papers as soon as I could. All the difficulty his Majesty finds is that he would have the merchants there furnish ten thousand crowns in hand for furtherance of his business.—From the Court at Theobalds, 21 Sept., 1607.
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Sir William Waad to the Earl of Salisbury.
1607, Sept. 22.I find it will be to no purpose to search any of the papers of Sir Thomas Shurley, for himself making that request, I conceive he has been so advised as, if he have any memorials or other letters concerning that practice, they are either laid aside or made away. The other instructions that concern the "orphants" money remain with the informer, for which I will take order they may be brought hither. The sight of the copy of his letter to Signor Bassedona has troubled him greatly, and I find no other way he takes to reconcile the repugnant contradictions between his examination and that letter, but by protestation, as by that he now sends to you will appear.— 22 Sept., 1607.
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Sir Thomas Sherley the younger to the Earl of Salisbury.
1607, Sept. 22.Touching the cause of "orphantes" goods, I offered nothing but what the parties grieved will justify, or their heirs (for some of them must be dead, within 30 years); and the greatest number of them will most desirously undergo that offer which I made you. The thing has a strange face at the first appearance, and so it seemed to me, that such hideous wrongs should so generally be offered so near the Court, and not be discerned. But after I perused the notes and considered the customs of the City I was soon altered in my judgment; and you will apprehend this matter better when I shall have showed you those records, and when you have spoken with the man and his wife that declared these things to me.—The Tower, 22 Sept., 1607.
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Sir Thomas Sherley the younger to the Earl of Salisbury.
1607, Sept. 22.I thank you and their lordships for granting me the use of the air; but it is an exceeding grief to me that you will not believe my protest. Pray consider how small reason I have to lie, and "confer" this unfortunate letter of mine with that which Bashadony wrote to me, and my last confession, and you will find better satisfaction. I stand more to be found true in my words and actions than faultless. It is plain by Bashadony's letter that he informed, and I expected a more particular information from him, which if it had come to my hands I had brought it to you. So much I thirsted to have these abuses made known. I guessed by Bashadony's letter that his uncle willed him to write to me what he did. His uncle no doubt held me a fit instrument to declare these things, as a man hating the Turks, and misliking to see them furnished from hence with munition. I know from Mr. Lello and divers of the English merchants that the Venetians wished nothing more than that the Turkey trade here were converted to Venice, for which the Venetians made a good offer to his Majesty. I assured myself that my violent letters would spur on Bashadony and his uncle to search out all munition and powder sent hence into Turkey. I had no reason to imagine that Bashadony or any Italian cared so much for the honour of this nation as to spend the writing of one line for it, except they had some end of their own. I never had speech of this matter with him before that cursed letter of his came to me, and upon that I have wrought ever since; and if there had been any former plot between us, I should have had small need to persuade a man already framed to my mind and courses. The violent form of my letter I must confess gives cause of further suspicion at first; but I have no reason to lie in this matter, especially to you, upon whom I have ever depended. I could do his Majesty better service abroad than in the Tower, though but little anywhere. If my death and damnation lay upon it, I can say no more of this matter than I have done. I am in worse case of any man in the Tower. I have nothing of my own to relieve me, and my father has sent me nothing. I am in a fair way to be utterly undone except his Majesty release me, which pray procure for me.—The Tower, 22 Sept., 1607.
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The Earl of Suffolk and the Earl of Salisbury to the Earl of Dorset.
1607, Sept. 22.The warrant of 17 July last authorised Dorset to pay to such officers of his Majesty's works, or others, as they and the Earl of Worcester, or any two of them, shall nominate for buildings at Theobalds. They require him to pay 250l. to Mr. Simon Basill, surveyor of his Majesty's works, for that purpose.—Charterhouse, 22 Sept., 1607.
Signed.
Note at foot by the Earl of Dorset: the paymaster for the King's houses by patent ought to receive these moneys, and to account for these and all other in one account, and not to divide that account to the exclusion of the proper officer. The warrant is therefore to be amended.—10 Oct., 1607.
1 p. (122. 80.)
The Earl of Cumberland and the Earl of Dunbar to the Earl of Salisbury.
1607, Sept. 22.Since our coming into these northern parts we two have met together and conferred with others in the country of the estate of the Middle Shires. We find that many breaches have been made of late and frequent stealing from England to Scotland and likewise from thence into England, tending to the disquiet and oppression of the countries on both sides. We fully perceive that if the course of confining those gentlemen that are warded had not been taken, stealing and harbouring by all likelihood had been at such a height this ensuing winter as your lordship and the Council would have held it marvellous in a country of any government. To second that confining we are now resolving on a course to terrify those that would offend and to punish those that have offended, which we will put in execution as cause may require with expedition. At our meeting here in the country suit is made in the name of Mr. Carr of Ford being confined to Westchester, whose wife is lately deceased, that as his estate remains unsettled by reason of her death so as he is like to receive great prejudice, he may be licensed for some small time to repair home to dispose of his affairs and thereafter to return where he now is. We are to be suitors to your lordship in his behalf, that he may have a month's time for ordering of his business at home, whereby he may not allege his so strict warding to be a cause of great prejudice to his estate. We would entreat you in the same warrant of a month's licence to require him thereafter to return to Westchester, because he is one of the worst of all them that are confined. To give him full releasement of his ward would both be a hindrance to the quieting of the country and give occasion to the others confined to petition his Majesty and the Lords for their discharge.—22 Sept., 1607.
Signed. 1¼ pp. (194. 2.)
The Earl of Shrewsbury to the Earl of Salisbury.
1607, Sept. 23.My last pitifully complained of the gout's pinching me, and now you write of Tirone and the rest their flying into Spain. But what is it to me, who am neither fit for counsel nor execution, but rather to live in a coalpit or a cell. I think every day more than other no life so happy as to live quietly at home. My wife has gone to see her mother; when she returns I will show her what you write of those that are so resolute against crosses, and wish she could in part follow their rare and excellent example. The enclosed letters are short but sharp, reproving those two idle boys, from whom I never heard word since I saw London. I am very sorry for the loss of their Majesties' sweet child, but God that has taken her will I trust preserve the rest of that royal race in safety.—Sheffeld Lodge, 23 Sept., 1607.
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The Bishop of Carlisle and Sir Wilfrid Lawson to the Council.
1607, Sept. 23.On September 14th Hutchin Grame, Jock of the Lake and George Grame of the Milhill, the time limited for their abode here being expired, returned for Ireland. With them were sent divers men and women, as appears by the enclosed copy of letter and list sent to the Lord Deputy. They detail the proceedings taken for the trial of John Musgrave. The country is in good peace. They trust his Majesty shall shortly see this peace settled.—Carlisle, 23 Sept., 1607.
Signed. 1 p. (122. 82.)
Lord Danvers to the Earl of Salisbury.
[1607], Sept. 23.Your letter was delivered unto me this present Wednesday about noon, being some few miles from home, hawking partridge and little expecting so present occasion to hunt that old fox. Seeing there is no remedy, I will, with the soonest I can possibly, give my attendance, not more invited by the authority of your place than my love to your person.— Summerforde, 23 Sept.
Holograph. Endorsed: "23 Sept. 1607." 1 p. (194. 4.)
Sir Thomas Edmondes to the Earl of Salisbury.
[1607], Sept. 23.Magdalena a Spanish woman, by profession a Beata, gone into Spain as she makes many walks betwixt those places, which is therefore called her gallery; a great negotiatrix; furnished with memorials to answer d'Ibarra's disfavourable informations. In her passage through France treats of a match betwixt the Dolphin and the Infanta of Spain. The Spanish Ambassador in England has his entertainment increased 2000 crowns a year, and an ayuda de costa granted him of 10,000 crowns.—23 Sept.
Abstract. (227. 337.)
Thomas Morgan to the Earl of Salisbury.
1607, Sept. 23/Oct. 3.The bearer hereof, Mr. Sadler, is here newly arrived out of Italy and returns towards his country. It appeared unto me by many means "in the life" of Mr. Cave that your lordship held him in special consideration. I thought good to address this gentleman unto you because he was with Mr. Cave at his death and can make relation of the manner and cause thereof for your better satisfaction. The Queen of Spain was brought to bed of a boy the 16th of the last month. The fleet from the Indias was seen upon the seas, but the same was not arrived.— Paris, 3 Oct., 1607.
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"The state of Sir Clement Spelman, of Narboro, in Norfolk, knight, deceased 24 Sept., 1607."
[1607, after Sept. 24.]Particulars of his possessions. The wardship is desired for the mother, because of the infant unborn, together with the portions de futuro, being in jointure; so that the creditors may be satisfied, and the reputation of the dead knight preserved, who lived in good fame, a great housekeeper, and did great service to his country.
1 p. (P. 2408.)
Count Febrizio Serbelloni to Girolamo Merli at Constantinople.
1607, Sept. 24/Oct. 4I have your letters of the 4th and 20th of August. Cardinal Arigone is every day about to start for his bishopric. Sig. Quintiliano has been sick unto death, but is better, though not well. The Pope went the day before yesterday to Frascati with Cardinal Borghese and will remain all this month. Monsig. Pino (?) has also been ill, but the fever has left him.—Rome, 4 Oct., 1607.
Holograph. Italian. Endorsed: "Recd. 27 Febr. 1608." 1 p. (193. 149.)
Sir Fulke Grevyll to the Earl of Salisbury.
[1607], Sept. 25.In this business of mine there has fallen out some question, since you referred it to Sir Francis Bacon. The particulars I deliver in another man's hand, more legible. I acknowledge the whole to your favour, and have proceeded in my offers with the equalest sense that either Mr. Salter or I could gather out of your words or letters. In the rest, vouchsafe to signify your final pleasure to Sir Francis, that I, whose service can be of no use to you, may cease to be troublesome.—Harrold's Park, 25 Sept.
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The Enclosure:
Differences fallen out to be reconciled, upon conference between Mr. Harris, of counsel with Sir David Murray, and Sir Foulk Grevill's solicitor, touching the book to pass between them for the impost of Rhenish wines.
1 p. (122. 86.)
The King to [Sir Arthur Chichester].
[1607, Sept. 26.]Direction, in recompense of the allowance made to George Wood for the entertainment of the twenty warders, who have since been discharged, in the grant to him of the reversion of the constableship of the Palace of Knockfergus in the Province of Ulster, of a lease to be made to him under the great seal of Ireland of the said palace or house for thirty-one years from the determination of the several estates of John Dalwaie and Wood therein, reserving to the King the sole use of the palace upon every occasion of his service.—Undated.
Copy. Endorsed: "1607." 1 p. (194. 41.)
[The original letter is calendared in Cal. S.P. Ireland, 1606– 1608, p. 282.]
Lady Mary Bulkeley to the Earl of Salisbury.
[1607], Sept. 26.I am the woeful advertiser of a grievous mischance that yesternight has befallen at Greenwich, by occasion of my son Richard Bulkeley, without any grievous fault of his other than the rashness of youth may in part excuse. Being drawn by cosenage into debts, he was yesternight arrested by the under sheriff of Kent and his followers, who were not contented to bereave him of his weapons, as was fit, but violently threw him down, set their knees upon his breast and threatened him, holding a dagger toward his heart, that if he struggled or called for help they would make him sure. He promised to yield himself quietly their prisoner, and they letting him rise, he very faultily brake from them and made speed away. After that, out come his men, and some of them most wickedly let fly at the under sheriff, and gave him that mischievous blow on the head whereof the unfortunate man soon after died: my son greatly crying out of his man for that wicked blow, though nothing distrusting his own innocency not to be touched therein, yet for fear of being laid up for his debts, which in his father's absence he has no means to pay, is gone out of these parts; but whither, our Lord knoweth. I am a most woeful suitor to you, not to protect my son in any fault (whereof his young years are too full), but that he may bear only his own burden, and that the act of his servant may not be pressed to taint him.—Sepnam, 26 Sept.
Holograph. Endorsed: "1607. The Lady Marie Bulkeley." 1 p. (122. 88.)
The Earl of Montgomery.
1607, Sept. 26.The effect of the Earl of Montgomery's suit. He desires nothing but that the King shall have a moiety thereof. He desires nothing out of the King's coffers, not anything that is either paid, answered or compounded for, nor anything that has grown due since the late Queen's death; nothing against the law, nor anything that shall hereafter appear to be inconvenient to his Majesty when the success of his grant is seen.—26 Sept., 1607.
In the Earl of Dorset's hand. ½ p. (122. 89.)
Henry Hobarte, Attorney General, to the Earl of Salisbury.
1607, Sept. 28.I have sent this proclamation for the proroguing of Parliament to be signed by his Majesty. For the buildings, it will ask time, yet no time shall be lost.—Hackney, 28 Sept., 1607.
PS.—I conceive your meaning to be, touching the seizing of the lands of these Irish fled, not to have the commission awarded from hence, but only to give direction by the letters of the Lords from hence, and then to have the proceedings and the execution of it there, for that will be fittest; and therefore in that I do nothing, except you command otherwise.
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Sir James Crowmer to the Earl of Salisbury.
1607, Sept. 29.Being advertised that some suspected persons for coining of false money dwelt in Miltone, I searched there and found a chest almost filled with copper, brass, "alcumye," tin, lead and other metals; also some marks upon an old chest, some upon the hearth, some of them being of the breadth and fashion of a shilling, some of other breadths and fashions, burned with melted metal: also crucibles, moulds of divers fashions, quicksilver, and other such like trash. I have caused all to be locked up safe till I receive your directions. I present to you the examinations of the parties.—Tunstall, 29 Sept., 1607.
Holograph. Endorsed: "Sir James Crowmer, concerning one Edmund Dundie, for coining." 1 p. (122. 92.)
Sir William Waad to the Earl of Salisbury.
1607, Sept. 29.I wrote yesterday to the Council upon that occasion that greatly concerns myself and the other officers and servants here; and beseech your assistance for reform of so great an abuse as will endanger greatly this place.
Last night there is [born] a fine young male lion whelp of the former lions, Henry and Anne. Mr. Gill the keeper, in regard of the infection round about him, is in the country. I have directed care to be used to preserve the little one, as is fit, if the whelping of it so late in the year, and the cold coming on, do not hurt it before it get strength. Both the lions keep together with the little whelp with that care as is very tender and full of love.— The Tower, 29 Sept., 1607.
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Lord Scrope to the Earl of Salisbury.
1607, Sept. 29.He complains of the Lord Treasurer's conduct in giving in charge to the sheriff of Yorkshire certain old seizures, for debts due by Scrope's father, for surplus of money received for payment of soldiers. Refers to his father's services, who kept Nawarth, being the Dacres' strength, on the West Border, with armed foot and horsemen, his uncle Scroope being principal almost half a year together: besides a great army of horse and footmen through whom he rode in the Wardenry, taking prisoners and chasing the rebels, having placed the Earl of Cumberland as his deputy. His father spent therein more than double the amount of these seizures, for which he had not one penny. The Lord Treasurer deals strangely with him in sending them down to beggar his tenants. Begs Salisbury to stay the seizures, and to take order with "that hot Lord Treasurer" in the matter.— Sanger, 29 Sept., 1607.
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Sir Thomas Edmondes to the Earl of Salisbury.
1607, Sept. 30.Biraque returned; gone to Bines to the Court where the Princes were. Spinola, Richardot and the Audiencer sent for to consult about the dispatch brought by him and the affairs of the treaty. "I have newly received your lordship's letter sent by Mr. Devioke, and do most humbly thank you both for the public satisfaction and the private comfort which it has pleased you to give me therein."—Sept. 30.
Abstract. (227. 337.)
The Lord Treasurer to Sir Thomas Edmondes.
1607, Sept. 30.Touching Tyrone's flight; assurance that no foreign prince will assist him. If it should so fall out, that then the King would be as forward as Queen Elizabeth to find out a whole summer place in their countries than they could find in Ireland (sic).—Sept. 30.
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The Archbishop of Cashel to the Earl of Salisbury.
1607, Sept. 30.He begs for answer to the petition which he delivered on Monday, when Salisbury willed him to make haste to Ireland. Its request is necessary for his safety and the King's service. The cities and towns there are more suspected than ever by reason of Romish bishops and seminaries among them. At the last revolt in Munster, no bishop was kept out of his seat and house but himself, by the inhabitants of Cashel; nor any bishop taken prisoner, wounded, tortured and ransomed for money but himself. Refers to his 37 years' services. He was of great help in putting back part of the wars in Munster; and he delivered his two sons to Derby O'Conor for the taking prisoner of James Fitz Thomas, titular Earl of Desmond. Begs Salisbury to show him favour, and not "let" him to the rigour of law. The letter given him by the Council to the Lord Deputy and Council is rather incensing them against him than otherwise; he encloses copy of a letter which might be sent instead. Begs that direction be sent concerning that Romish archbishop who is there still, perverting the people, none finding fault with it.— From the Strand, last of September, 1607.
Holograph. 1 p. (122. 98.)
The Enclosure:
[The Council] to the [Lord Deputy and Council of Ireland]. They have perused the articles of disorder and abuses preferred against the Archbishop of Cashel. He denies a great part, and for the rest offers to show reasons for excuse. In the general want of reformation, as well in those churches as in all churches for the most part of that land, the Archbishop concurs with the informations; and declares himself ready to reform those under his charge. They remit him and his cause to their favourable censures, not doubting that he shall have such indifferent proceeding that the churches shall be reformed, his old age and former services respected, and by his example others be induced to reform. They wish special care to be taken whereby the Romish Archbishop David O'Kearney, who, as the Archbishop affirms, is lurking between the counties of Tipperary and Kilkenny these three years, seducing the people from their loyalty, may be apprehended or banished; and that none of his favourers be permitted to enjoy church livings there, or be admitted as accuser, witness or juror in any matter concerning this Archbishop. A re-examination is to be made of that which was exhibited against him in his absence.—Hampton Court, — Sept., 1607.
Draft. 1 p. (122. 99.)
Frances, Duchess of Suffolk.
1607, Sept. 30.Survey of certain lands late of the Lady Frances, Duchess of Suffolk, with the reasonable improvements thereof.
1 p. (141. 362.)
[Sir George Carew] to the [Earl of Salisbury].
[1607, — Sept.]At this audience the King told me he had understood a certain report, and it seemed, he said, that it came from the house of Guise, that the Earl of Tyrone with his wife, family and followers of his kindred, was out of Ireland departed into Spain, without the knowledge or leave of his Majesty; and that there they were entertained willingly, a thing that he would not suffer with patience in any of his nobility: as for example, saith he, if any of the house of Guise upon a discontentment should sell their goods in France (though they be not very great), and retire themselves into some neighbour prince's country, it would be a thing that would give me great occasion of offence. To his example I thought not fit to answer, being unexpectedly propounded; but to the former matter of Tyrone, I told him that I had neither presently received advertisement of this accident [in margin: the post that carried my dispatch of 21 September arrived at Paris the day of this dispatch] nor could conjecture that any such thing would have happened, either by former advertisements of the state of things in Ireland, or by seeing what passed between his Majesty and Tyrone when he was in England, he having received much gracious entertainment at his Majesty's hands, beyond his merit, as we Englishmen thought: but that Tyrone's habitation being in the farthest part of Ireland, the news I supposed had much increased itself in passing so many seas and high mountains before it could come hither; and so passed it over.
Concerning those of the house of Guise, I see things falling to such a strain here between the King and them as I cannot tell what will be the end thereof. First the Prince Jainville is still kept aloof, and instead of restoring to the King's favour, which has been long spoken of, there is a great squaring of late fallen out between the King and the Duke of Guise, and that publicly before many standers by, upon two points; the one that he which is Abbot of Clugny (a spiritual living which has been long amongst these of the house of Guise) was content to have received the Bishop of Reims, brother to the Duke of Guise, for coadjutor unto him presently, that so by survivorship he might afterward hold the Abbey. This the King stopped, intending that living shall fall to his son de Vernueil. The other was that the King is to recommend at this present to the Pope the names of certain prelates to be made cardinals, among the which the Duke required to have his brother de Reims's name inserted, which the King refused, both for the disorderly carriage of the Bishop in his actions, and for that his number was full before. The Queen as he said had spoken to him for her Almoner, the Bishop of Besieres. De Guise answered that princes of such houses were usually admitted to such dignities without over curious examination of the licentiousness of their youth, and he doubted not that if he made that request of himself to the Pope, he neither would nor durst refuse him in it. But in the meantime it showed little "acception" of his services at his Majesty's hands that would refuse him such a request; and as for the Queen, if she would prefer the Almoner in such a matter before his brother, he would protest unto her that he would nevermore be at her service; and indeed, as I hear, followed the matter so far with the Queen as she confessed she had never spoken in it to the King. Whereupon there followed some words of contention between the King and her. Upon this the Duke of Guise uses the demonstration of a malcontent. I saw him at my last Audience at the Twilleries à l'escart, with very few followers. But I hear that these things arise from a deeper root, from the pretence of a marriage between him and the Marquise of Verneuil, she being rich in ready money, and he potent in followers, upon the relics of the old faction of the League, a thing that crosses the King both in his present desires, and which might happen to make a troublesome piece of work in the Succession hereafter, if God should shortly call the King. I have seen Monsieur de Guise three or four times since his coming hither from Marseilles, at which time he told me that he had asked leave of the King to visit me, and that the King in granting it willed him to tell me that he had accorded that leave, being otherwise not content that his noblemen should receive letters, or talk with Ambassadors, without his privity and licence. In all those conferences I found in him a readiness to certain hardy resolutions, wonderful to my conceit; namely, that notwithstanding, as I hear, his debt is more than the profits of his patrimony can discharge, and that his only maintenance is out of his government, and the pensions he has of this King, yet he said that he was very willing to surrender to the King both his government and pensions at any time, whensoever the King would receive them; and that for that end he had them toutes musquées dans un coffre: that was his phrase. Now if this should happen to be accepted, what he would do afterwards makes me to wonder. The King's speech to me of retiring himself to some neighbour prince, makes me imagine that he has some jealousy that he would retire into England, albeit for my own opinion I suppose Monsieur de Guise has no such meaning. In all my answers to him I exhorted him to safe and peaceable courses. These things the King then told me of him, notwithstanding the day before he had walked an hour with the King in the Tuilleries, whereupon a report was given out that all things were accorded betwixt them.
But to quit the King's demand to me touching Tyrone, I put him another question touching Grenoble, for surprising whereof there has been of late some practice, and a certain Lieutenant and others are apprehended about it. Of it I had heard two several reports, the one by a Minister of the religion of those parts, who told me that it was a design of Savoy and Spain to surprise it, and to seize the person of Esdiguieres, by means of certain papistical soldiers of the garrison, which the King would needs have to be entertained there, though Grenoble be one of the towns of security that the Protestants hold, and against the being of whom there those of the religion had often protested, saying they could not yield the King a good account of his town if such soldiers were set to guard it, but the King said he would not have them to prescribe to him what he had to do therein; the other [report] by some affected to Spain, who report that it was a private quarrel against Crequy, l'Esdiguieres's son-in-law, for the death of the Duke of Savoy's bastard brother, whom Crequy had slain in combat. The King told me that the same would prove no matter of consequence. I told him that I heard indeed it was a particular quarrel against Crequy. He answered Nay, he thought it was neither quarrel against Crequy nor Esdiguieres; but great matter it could not be, because Esdiguieres had not yet written to him of it; and so we passed it over. But since talking with de Sillery the Chancellor, I purposely fell upon this matter, and he confessed to me that Esdiguieres had written of it; as likewise where the King told me in the morning that the matter of Tyrone came out by those of the house of Guise the same day.—Undated.
Unsigned. Endorsed: "Minute 1607, Sept. Concerning the house of Guise and the departure of Tyrone." 4 pp. (122. 100.)
Great Britain and France.
Memoir of [Sir George Carew], Ambassador of Great Britain, to the French King.
[1607, ? c. Sept.]The treaty of February 1606 was executed more than seven months ago, and the French enjoy the benefit thereof; but it has not yet been communicated to the Parliaments and various local authorities of France. He begs that this may be done promptly. He also requests the confirmation of various documents cited.
Other requests are that the Sieur de Lusan should be compelled to restore a sum of money unjustly taken from merchants of Great Britain: for the abolition of the impost of a crown per ton established by the Comte de Soissons: for payment of the sum due to the late Queen of Scots for her dowry: for reply to the complaints of the Chevalier Watts, Mayor of London, and others, for depredations upon the sea: that the cause of Alain Linch, a poor Irishman, despoiled at sea by the servants of the Comte de Grammont, should be definitively judged: and that Patrick Morice, Scottish merchant, may have execution of the decree he obtained against the Sieur de Bellenglise for a ship taken.
Reply to the above memoir, detailing the steps taken for the publication of the treaty, and the execution of the other documents. No assignment can be made for the payment which the Ambassador pretends to be due to the late Queen of Scots, either for arrears of pension, dowry, or money advanced for the payment of troops sent to Scotland for the help of that country: his Majesty not being liable for the debts of his predecessors. Replies also given as to the above complaints.—Undated.
Contemporary copy. French. Endorsed by Salisbury: "Answers from the Council of France to the Ambassador in France." 3½ pp. (124. 57.)
The late Princess Mary.
[1607, Sept.]The six rockers to her Majesty's late daughter the Lady Marie's grace, seeing they are deprived of their service upon which their whole hope of preferment depended, pray the Queen that in regard of their great charge and pains taken, continually waiting and watching, they may have the entertainment of 30l. a year confirmed to them during their lives; and if God send her Majesty any more children they will be ready to attend them with their best care.—Undated.
Petition. 1 p. (197. 51.)
The Earl of Montgomery's Suit.
[1607, Sept.]To have the moiety of all such money due in law to the late Q[ueen] at her death, which ought to have been paid either by virtue of the rents of recusants' lands or their goods found and in charge upon record.—Undated.
½ p. [Cp. Cal. of S.P. Dom. 1603–1610, p. 372.] (197. 31.)
Jersey.
1607 [After Sept.].Rents and revenues due to the King in Jersey, contained in a rental made by the Commissioners sent there in August and September last, 1607. Total 1,683l. 10s. 3¼d.
2 pp. (124. 83.)

Footnotes

1 Mary, third daughter of James I, about 18 months old at her death.
2 Sir William Stone died on or about 19 Sept. 1607 (Cal. S.P. Dom. 1603–1610, p. 370).
3 The Comte de Beaumont left England in Nov. 1605.