Jovis, 26o Die Martii, 1607
Mr. Brook reporteth the Bill, touching the not making Starch of Wheat, and other Grain, with Amendments, and a Proviso; which being twice read; upon the Question, ordered to be ingrossed,
B. For the Satisfying of due Debts: Mr. Mounpesson's Bill: - Committee, upon Sir Henry Poole's Motion, to meet at the Temple.
Bathyrst's Letters Pat.
Mr. Bathyrst Bill put to Question by Mr. Speaker, and passed, without further Opening.
3. Reading. - B. for the Naturalizing of John Ramsden : - Upon the Question, passed.
The Bill of Clothing, re-committed: - Parliament House, To-morrow in the Afternoon.
Mr. Gore speaketh after the Commitment, with divers Reasons against the Bill: Prayeth, that more might attend the Committee. - This against Order.
Sir John Savyll, - in Answer of Mr. Gore.
Remember to search for the Days of these Conferences reported.
Union with Scotland.
Mr. Holt beginneth Report of the Conference touching the Point of Conveniency. - It seemed so at the first: It was but Embryo: At last but an Abortive, so abrupt. -
Salisb. - Introduction,Observations. The Nature not Inception, but a Progression [a]. -
God : The King: Nature. -
King equal Affection to both : His Presence the mutual and equal. -
Whether to continue it, or leave Marks or Brands of Separation. -
Wished, the Conference might be free. -
The Eye of the popish Princess, the Pope: - Exult. -
Vivat Rex; vivat Lex; vivat Anglia, Scotia; vivat Britannia. -
The Commission, Articles, &c. -
2. Lord Northampton: - Whatsoever Law, or Custom; yet Reason itself allows this Union. -
Some massy, and a Heap, - Of Estates, Subjection but the first Degree of natural. -
Primogenit and derivative Reason. - The first most perfect: 2. Exercised upon the first.
Enquire for this Report of Mr. Holt; for the Lords Speeches specially, and for the Point of Assurance.
Bills from Lords.
A Message from the Lords. - Mr. D. Hone, Sir John Tyndall - Two Bills: 1. Marshes of Lesnes and Fants in the County of Kent:
2. Act to enable Rich. Sackvill, Esquire, to surrender the Offices of chief Butler of England, &c. notwithstanding his Minority of Years.
Union with Scotland.
Mr. Recorder continueth the Report: - From whom to take the Help of Notes [b].
Touching the Pressing, One Lord said, that we ourselves would be sensible of our own Members, and give them what Ease we could. -
To tie themselves to the Instrument, for the Honour of those, that we trusted, not with a Flock of Sheep, but with both Kingdoms.
Ability, Capacity, or Liberty.
Mr. Holt: - One Aries, many Libraes, no Scorpion, in the Zodiack of this lower Region. -
Nimia amicitia causam dat odii. In this imperfect Union, the Rule good, "Love little, and love long;" but if a perfect, then we would meet them with perfect Friendship; and then amicorum omnia communia.
Mr. Speaker moveth Three Courses, upon the Report:
1. Whether deliberate:
2. Whether dispute here:
3. Whether Committee, to consider.
Sir Geo. Moore: - That the last might be proceeded in.
Mr. Martin: - That the Stop is on the Lords Part: That we ought to hear from them first. - This resolved.
The Counsel for the Bill of the Marshalsea to be heard.
Question, Whether to be heard this Day, or To-morrow :
The House divided:
No : Sir Roger Aston, Sir John Savill,
Yea : Sir Chro. Perkins, Sir Geo. St. Poll,
Mr. Fuller moveth, that the Sub-committee, for the Spanish Wrongs, might meet this Afternoon : Which was ordered. Sub-committee: Sir H. Nevill, Sir Rob. Mansfield, Sir Edwyn Sands, Sir Rich. Hawkins, Sir John Hollyce, Mr. Dudley Carleton, Mr. Wilson, Mr. Martin, Mr. Nanton, Sir Geo. Moore, Mr. Fuller. -
110 Yea, 89 No, For the Hearing of the Counsel of the Marshalsea -
Injuries from Spaniards.
Thursday, in the Committee Chamber, - to treat concerning the Grievances done to the Subjects of England by the Officers and Ministers of the King of Spaine, and of some Means for Redress. -
Mr. Goldsmyth for the Bill; Mr. Warre, Mr. Gerrard, against the Bill.
Mr. Gerrard, against the Bill, beginneth first. -
25 E. III. Articuli super chartas.