DIE Mercurii, 24 Aprilis.
Domini tam Spirituales quam Temporales præsentes
fuerunt:
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Arch. Cant.
Epus. London.
Epus. Durham.
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Epus. Bath & Wells.
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March. Normanby.
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Comes Monmouth.
Comes Montagu.
Comes Marleborough.
Comes Torrington.
Comes Bradford.
Comes Rumney.
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Viscount Villiers. |
Ds. Willoughby Er.
Ds. Lawarr.
Ds. Berkeley Ber.
Ds. Fitzwalter.
Ds. Hunsdon.
Ds. Grey.
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Ds. Culpeper.
Ds. Clifford.
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Ds. Cornwallis.
Ds. Guilford.
Ds. Godolphin.
Ds. Jeffreys.
Ds. Cholmondeley.
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Ds. Herbert. |
PRAYERS.
Sir J. Butler and Leighton to be attached, for proceeding against Emmot, Deputy to the Serjeant at Arms, who attached Browne for arresting Castinet, the E. of Portland's Servant.
The House being informed, upon Oath, "That Sir
James Butler did issue a Warrant, at the Complaint of
Anne Browne, against Lancelot Emmot, Deputy to the
Serjeant at Arms attending this House, who attached
John Browne, for a Breach of Privilege, in arresting
Ezekiel Castinet, menial Servant to the Earl of Portland (although he was shewed the Order of this
House for the same); and also that Mr. William
Leighton indicted the said Launcelot Emmot in the
Crown-office, for an Assault on the said John Browne,
and outlawed him thereupon, only for executing the
Order of this House:"
It is ORDERED, by the Lords Spiritual and Temporal in Parliament assembled, That the Serjeant at Arms
attending this House, his Deputy or Deputies, do forthwith attach the Body of the said Sir James Butler and
Mr. William Leighton, and bring them in safe Custody to
the Bar of this House, to answer for their Offence; and
this shall be a sufficient Warrant on that Behalf.
To Roger Charnock Esquire, Serjeant at Arms
attending this House, his Deputy and Deputies, and every of them.
Message from H. C. with a Bill.
A Message was brought from the House of Commons,
by Mr. Harcourt and others:
Who brought up a Bill, intituled, "An Act for the
better encouragement of Privateers;" to which they
desire the Concurrence of this House.
Report of Sir T. Cooke's Examination, from the Committee of both Houses.
The Lord Privy Seal reported from the Committee of
both Houses, as followeth; (videlicet,)
"Die Martis, 23° Aprilis, 1695.
"In the Exchequer Chamber.
"At the Committee of both Houses appointed to
hear and examine Sir Thomas Cooke; in Pursuance
of the Act, intituled, An Act to indemnify Sir
Thomas Cooke from Actions which he might be
liable to, by reason of his discovering to whom
he paid and distributed several Sums of Money,
therein mentioned to be received out of the
Treasure of the East India Company, or for
any Prosecution for such Distribution.
"Sir Thomas Cooke being called in, and the Act read;
he thereupon observed to the said Committee, something relating to the Clause touching his Imprisonment;
and did desire, "That, in case he should make a full
and perfect Discovery to the Satisfaction of the Committee, it might by them be represented to each
House, so as he might obtain their Votes for his Discharge; he apprehending, by the Act, that no Person
is empowered to release him in case of such Discovery:" Whereupon the Committee acquainted him,
"That they were of Opinion, if he made a full
Discovery, he would not be liable to the Penalty of
that Act; but, however, his Scruple should be fairly
represented to both Houses."
"Sir Thomas Cooke, being sworn, acquainted the
Committee, "That, for their Ease, he had put his
Confession down in Writing;" a Copy whereof is
hereafter inserted.
"The Original being read by him; and the Committee conceiving it to be imperfect, and not such as the
Act requires; the Committee let him know, "That
they expected a more particular Account of those
Matters from him."
"To the First Sum of Ten Thousand Pounds mentioned in she said Writing: He saith, The same was
paid to Mr. Tyssen, in November, 1692.
"That he gave him no Directions how it should be
disposed; but it was in Expectation to have the Charter of the East India Company confirmed, and new Regulations thereto made; and they concluded it for the
Service of the Company: It was intended for the
King; but he could not say the King had it.
"He believes the East India Company never had
any Accompt how this £.10000 was disposed of. He
told the Court, as he remembers, that he had disposed
of the Money, and they required no Accompt thereof.
"He believes Mr. Tyssen told him, "that he delivered
it to Sir Josias Child, who delivered it to the King."
"He faith, It is a customary Present; and that, in King
Charles's and other former Reigns, the like had been
done for several Years; which by the Books of the
Company may appear.
"That the Company, when this Present was made,
were in an ill Condition; that he himself advanced
this Sum, and had it not re-paid in Four or Five
Months Time; the same, with the Interest thereupon
due, was presented to the King in Tallies.
"As to the £. 10000, and £. 2000, next mentioned
in the Accompt: He saith, Those Sums were paid to
Mr. Richard Acton, about the same Time; who declared, "He had several Friends capable of doing
great Service to the Company's Affairs, and several
of them would speak with Parliament-men;" but
that he could not particularize who they were; but
the End aimed at was, to get an Act of Parliament.
"He (Sir Th. Cooke) offered to give the Company
an Account how the Money was disposed of; but
they did not think fit to receive it. And farther saith,
That he knows no Man besides Mr. Acton who can
give an Account who had that Money: That he
intrusted this Money wholly with Mr. Acton, taking
him for an honest and able Man; the Court having
given him Power (as he conceived) to dispose of the
Money by another Hand, as well as by his own.
"That the Inducements for giving this Money were,
Fears of the Interlopers going out, and Subscriptions
for a new Company going on; by which they apprehended the Company would be ruined.
"That, to the best of his Remembrance, there was a
Bill at that Time, for another East India Company;
and that the King had sent a Message to the House of
Commons, to settle the East India Trade.
"That this £. 10000 was advanced by Acton himself,
and not re-paid him in some Months after; which Money he believes Acton paid away the same Session.
"The other £. 2000 was for Interest, and his Pains
and Expences, which were great.
"Acton did say, "He could tell some Persons employed in that Affair: He did understand that this
Money was to be laid out for promoting their Affairs
in Parliament: Could not say to whom it was given;
but understood it went no farther than the House of
Commons; and that he found no good Fruit by such
Distribution."
"That Mr. Acton at that Time had an Interest in
the East India Company, to the Value of 10 or
£. 20000, as he believes; and had so for some Time.
"That he gave this £. 10000 with the Privity of
Sir Josias Child; who recommended Acton as a Person
capable of doing the Company Service, having great
Acquaintance with Parliament-men, and others who
had Interest with them.
"That he knows not who Acton employed in the
Distribution of this Money.
"As to the £. 338. 7s. 6d. mentioned to be paid to
Mr. Molineaux: He saith, The same was paid him
about the same Time the Money was paid to Mr.
Acton: That Mr. Molineaux told him, "This Money
was to be disposed of to the Lord Rivers," who was
then Lord Colchester, and in the House of Commons.
But further saith, That, since his Confinement, Molineaux had been with him, to tell him, "That it was
a wrong Thing, and my Lord never had it; that he
had made Use of it himself."
"As to the farther Sum of £. 250 mentioned in the
said Paper to be paid Mr. Tyssen, for the Service of
the Company: He saith, It was paid him about the
same Time, and was in relation to Salt-petre; but he
cannot give any further Account thereof.
"As to the £.220 mentioned to be paid to Sir John
Chardin: He believes it was for his own Use, having
expended great Sums in the Company's Service.
"As to the £. 350 paid to Mr. Dockminick: He saith,
He believes the same was expended by him; but he
knows not to whom he gave it.
"As to the £. 382. I s. 8d. paid to Captain Jermain:
He saith: That Mr. Jermain told him, "He had lost
about £. 700 in the Interest of the Interlopers;" who,
finding that Interest to decline, applied himself to
him the said Sir Thomas Cooke; proposing, "that, if
he might have Half the Money which he had lost
repaid him, he would come in to the East India Company's Interest:" Upon which Consideration, the said
£. 382. I s. 8 d. was paid him.
"As to the £. 1091. 13 s. 4 d. paid to Mr. Fitz Patrick,
deceased: He saith, That Fitz Patrick told him,
"He had a great Interest with the Lord Nottingham;
that he would try what he could do; and he did not
doubt but he might accomplish great Services, provided he might have such a Sum of Money." But he
believes the said Fitz Patrick kept the Money himself.
"That there was a Promise of a further Sum, if the
intended Act of Parliament did not pass.
"As to the £. 545. 16s. 8d. it was to be paid
Mr. Cha. Bates, when the Charter was settled; and
was paid accordingly, in October, 1693: He himself
had no Acquaintance with him; but Sir Basil Firebrace told him, "He had Acquaintance with several
Lords;" and named the Marquis of Carmarthen, now
Duke of Leeds.
"As to the first £. 10000 paid to Sir Basil Firebrace,
it was paid about November, 1693; and it was always
his Apprehension, that Sir Basil kept it for himself, to
recompense his Losses in the interloping Trade.
"As to the several other Sums which compleat the
further Sum of £. 30000 paid to Sir Basil: He saith,
They were paid at one Time, though depending upon
several Contracts.
"That it was agreed, in case the Charter passed,
that the Company should take £.60000 Stock of Sir
Basil Firebrace at £. 150 per Cent. when the Charter
was passed. He put this Stock upon the Company at
£. 150 per Cent.; their Stock was then at £. 100 per
Cent. by which the Company lost £. 30000. He
saith, He never could tell to whom this Money was
distributed; nor would Sir Basil give him an Account
of that Matter, though often asked by him to do it;
and Sir Basil said, "If he were further pressed, he
would have no more to do in it."
"That, the Charter being passed, the Company paid
the £. 30000 about January 1693, in Recompense
for the Fall of the Stock: The Company was also to
transfer £. 40000 more Stock at £. 100 per Cent. if
an Act passed in 18 Months, for confirming and enlarging their Charter; but, the Act of Parliament not
being passed, the Contract for that £.40,000 Stock
became void.
"Sir Thomas Cooke produced a Contract, dated 10°
September. 1693, which was mentioned to be made in
Consideration of 300 Guineas paid to him; which
Consideration he declared he had not received. He
likewise produced another Contract, dat. 25° Octobr.
1692.
"He saith, There were several Contracts; some to the
Value of £. 60000, on account of procuring a new
Charter; and others to the Value of £.40000, on
account of procuring an Act of Parliament. They
were all in Sir Basil Firebrace's Name; One of each
Sort was by him produced, to shew the Nature of
these Contracts.
"He saith, the £.30000 was paid to Sir Basil Firebrace, or his Order, upon Ten several Contracts: It
was paid in Six several Sums; (videlicet,) 15 or
£.20000 (and he thinks £.10000 apiece, because
no more than that Sum can be subscribed by One
Person), to Fowles and Wootton. To Mr. Ed. Allen
Scrivener, £.5000. To Mr. Horneby, £.5,000. That
the £.30000 and £.10000 were subscribed into the
Stock of the East India Company; and he believes
the Subscribers can give farther Information to these
Sams.
"He did not know but the Reason why the £.30000
was in Ten several Contracts might be, because Sir
Basil might have Occasion to distribute it to several
Persons.
"As to the £.90000: He saith, That it was
£.99197 Stock, bought for £.90000, of several Persons
for the Use of the Company, to make good the Contracts
with Sir Basil, if he should choose to accept Stock.
"That the Stock was transferred to several Persons,
to the Company's Use; that he was accountable for
it; that they had his own Obligation for the same;
Part of which Stock was transferred to the Company;
other Part was sold for their Use, and they have the
Money."
"A true and full Discovery, upon Oath, made by Sir Thomas Cooke, to the best of his Knowledge, how,
and in what Manner, and to what Person or Persons, and to what particular Uses, Intents, and Purposes,
and on what Account, the Sum of £.67000, and the Sum of £.90000, have been distributed, paid,
applied, disposed, or made Use of; which Discovery is in Pursuance of an Act of this present Session of
Parliament.
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£. |
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| "Delivered to Francis Tyssen Esquire several Tallies for £.10000, for the special Service of the Company, |
10000 |
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| To Interest and Allowance due for the said Tallies till the same was re-paid me, |
597 |
8 |
10 |
| To Mr. Richard Acton, to defray the Expenses of himself and for his Friends soliciting to prevent a new Settlement of an East India Company, and to endeavour the Establishment of the old, |
10000 |
0 |
0 |
| To Ditto, for Interest of the Money and Gratuity for his Pains, more, |
2000 |
0 |
0 |
| To Mr. Nathan'l Molineux Merchant, for himself and Friends, in soliciting the Company's Affairs, to prevent a new Charter, and to establish the old, 310 Guineas, |
338 |
7 |
6 |
| To Charges on the Salt-petre, and for the Tallies, and other Expences, |
164 |
16 |
10 |
| To Francis Tyssen Esquire, for the Service of the Company, |
250 |
0 |
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| To what I find by my Notes of Memorandums is charged to myself, 100 Guineas, |
109 |
3 |
4 |
| To Sir John Chardin, for several Expences and Services in the Company's Affairs, |
220 |
0 |
0 |
| To Paul Dockminique Esquire, for soliciting the Company's Affairs, to prevent a new Company, and to establish the old, |
350 |
0 |
0 |
| To Captain John Jermaine, in Consideration of Loss he had by East India Stock, and on his Promise to come into the Company's Interest, 350 Guineas, |
382 |
1 |
8 |
| To Colonel Fitz Patrick, for the Service done the Company by his Solicitation for a new Charter, 1000 Guineas, |
1091 |
13 |
4 |
| To Charles Bates Esquire, on the same Account, 500 Guineas, |
545 |
16 |
8 |
| Sir Basil Firebrace, in Recompense of his Trouble in prosecuting the Company's Affairs, and in Consideration of other Losses he had sustained by neglecting his own Business, and by not engaging himself with the interloping Ships, |
10000 |
0 |
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| To the said Sir Basil, for £.50 per Cent. Loss on £.10000 Stock I was obliged to accept of him at £.150 per Cent. being on the Company's Account, |
5000 |
0 |
0 |
| To Ditto, for a like Loss of £.50 per Cent on £.9000 Stock, |
4500 |
0 |
0 |
| To Ditto, for a like Loss of £.50 per Cent on £.8000 Stock, |
4000 |
0 |
0 |
| To Ditto, for a like Loss of £.50 per Cent on £.7000 Stock, |
3500 |
0 |
0 |
| To Ditto, for a like Loss of £.50 per Cent on £.6000 Stock, |
3000 |
0 |
0 |
| To Ditto, for a like Loss of £.50 per Cent on £.5000 Stock, |
2500 |
0 |
0 |
| To Ditto, for a like Loss of £.50 per Cent on £.4000 Stock, |
2000 |
0 |
0 |
| To Ditto, for a like Loss of £.50 per Cent on £.1000 Stock, |
500 |
0 |
0 |
| To Ditto, for a like Loss of £.50 per Cent on £.6000 Stock, |
3000 |
0 |
0 |
| To Ditto, for a like Loss of £.50 per Cent on £.4000 Stock, |
2000 |
0 |
0 |
| To the Attorney General, for his great Trouble and Pains about the Charters and other Affairs relating to the Company, 500 Guineas, |
545 |
16 |
8 |
| To the Solicitor General, on the same account, 200 Guineas, |
218 |
6 |
8 |
| To Mr. Sambrooke, &c. for Charges in passing the said Charters, |
218 |
6 |
8 |
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"Tho. Cooke."
An Accompt of the Disposition of the Ninety Thousand Pounds mentioned in the said Bill; which was
for East India Stock bought of several Persons for Account of the East India Company, as by the
Particulars below appears; (videlicet,)
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East India Stock. |
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s. |
d. |
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| Of Mr. Robert Marshall, |
4066 |
10 |
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Which cost, |
3659 |
17 |
0 |
| Of Mr. Ralph Marshall Esquire, |
2033 |
5 |
0 |
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1829 |
18 |
6 |
| Of Mr. Abraham Wilmer, |
5760 |
17 |
6 |
- |
5184 |
15 |
9 |
| Of Mr. John Blackler, |
1016 |
12 |
6 |
- |
914 |
19 |
3 |
| Of Mr. William Shephard, |
6777 |
10 |
0 |
- |
6099 |
15 |
0 |
| Of Sir Salathiel Lovell, |
1016 |
12 |
6 |
- |
914 |
19 |
3 |
| Of Paul Dockminique Esquire, |
1355 |
10 |
0 |
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1219 |
19 |
0 |
| Of Mr. John Dubois, |
2033 |
5 |
0 |
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1829 |
18 |
6 |
| Of Mr. Rob. Lancashire, |
6777 |
10 |
0 |
- |
6099 |
15 |
0 |
| Of Mr. Vincent Shephard, |
3388 |
15 |
0 |
- |
3049 |
17 |
6 |
| Of Mr. Francis Goffright, |
3388 |
15 |
0 |
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3049 |
17 |
6 |
| Of Frederick Herne Esquire, |
5422 |
0 |
0 |
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4879 |
16 |
0 |
| Of Captain Jonathan Andrews, |
677 |
15 |
0 |
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609 |
19 |
6 |
| Of Sir Thomas Grantham, |
1694 |
7 |
6 |
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1524 |
18 |
9 |
| Of John Perry Esquire, |
3388 |
15 |
0 |
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3049 |
17 |
6 |
| Of Mr. Richard Munford, |
4744 |
5 |
0 |
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4269 |
16 |
6 |
| Of Mr. Sam'll Ongley, &c. |
19654 |
15 |
0 |
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17996 |
1 |
5 |
| Of Richard Mountency Esquire, |
3300 |
0 |
0 |
- |
2970 |
0 |
0 |
| Of Mr. Gabriel Glover, |
5500 |
0 |
0 |
- |
4950 |
0 |
0 |
| Of Mr. Thomas Powell, &c. |
17200 |
0 |
0 |
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15695 |
0 |
0 |
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99197 |
0 |
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Stock cost, |
89799 |
1 |
11 |
| For Provision, &c. of the said £. 99197 Stock only, computed at £. 200. 18s. 1d. to make up the £.90000, |
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90000 |
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"Tho. Cooke."
Message to H. C. for a Conference about Sir T. Cooke's Examination.
A Message was sent to the House of Commons, by
Sir Robert Legard and Mr. Holford:
To desire a present Conference, in the Painted Chamber, upon the Subject-matter of the Examination of
Sir Thomas Cooke.
Answer.
The Messengers sent to the House of Commons
return Answer:
That the Commons will give a Conference, as desired.
The Commons being come to the Conference; the
Lords of this House who are of the Committee of
both Houses were named Managers.
Then the House was adjourned during Pleasure, and
the Lords went to the Conference.
Which being ended, the House was resumed.
Report of the Conference.
And the Lord Privy Seal reported, "That they had
attended the Conference; and delivered what they
were commanded."
Committee to meet with a Committee of H. C. for examining Sir B. Firebrace, Acton, Fowles, & al. about Money belonging to the E. I. Comp.
Lords Committees appointed to join with a Committee, of the House of Commons for taking the
Examinations of Sir Bazil Firebrace, Mr. Acton,
Mr. Fowles, Mr. Wootton, Mr. Hornby, Mr. Allen,
and others, in order to a farther Discovery of the
several Sums mentioned in the Act, intituled,
"An Act to indemnify Sir Thomas Cooke from
Actions which he might be liable to, by reason
of his discovering to whom he paid and distributed several Sums of Money, therein mentioned
to be received out of the Treasure of The East
India Company, and from any Prosecution for
such Distribution;" whose Lordships are afterwards to report to the House:
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Comes Pembroke,
Ds. Privati Sigilli.
Dux Shrewsbury.
Comes Bridgewater.
Comes Manchester.
Comes Thanet.
Comes Rochester.
Comes Monmouth.
Comes Marleborough.
Comes Torrington.
Viscount Weymouth. |
Ds. Cornwallis.
Ds. Godolphin. |
ORDERED, That the said Committee have Power to
send for Persons, Books, and Papers; and to
adjourn from Time to Time, and Place to Place,
as they find convenient.
Message from H. C. for a Conference about it.
A Message was brought from the House of Commons, by Mr. Comptroller and others:
To desire a Conference, upon the Subject-matter of
the last Conference.
Answer.
The Commons, being called in again, were told,
"That the Lords agree to a Conference, as desired,
and appoint the same to be presently, in the Painted
Chamber."
Report of the Conference.
The Commons being come to the Conference; the
House was adjourned during Pleasure, and the Lords
went to the Conference.
Which being ended, the House was resumed.
And the Lord Privy Seal reported, "That the Commons agree, that the Examinations of the Persons
mentioned in the Report of Sir Thomas Cook's Accompt be by a Committee of both Houses; and that
their Members who were of the Committee for examining Sir Thomas Cooke shall be of the Committee
of the House of Commons: And it is their Opinion,
That the said Committee have Power to send for Persons, Books, and Papers; and that they have Power
to adjourn from Time to Time, and Place to Place,
as they find convenient."
To which the House agreed.
Message to H. C. for the Committees to meet.
A Message was sent to the House of Commons,
by Sir Robert Legard and Mr. Holford:
To acquaint them, that this House doth agree with
them, that the said Committee have Power to send for
Persons, Books, and Papers; and to adjourn from
Time to Time, and Place to Place, as they shall find
convenient; and that the Lords of the Committee will
be in the Exchequer Chamber at Seven of the Clock
this Evening.
Order for attaching Sir Basil Firebrace suspended:
It is ORDERED, by the Lords Spiritual and Temporal in Parliament assembled, That the Order of this
House, for attaching Sir Basil Firebrace, shall be suspended, unless Intimation to the contrary be given
to the Gentleman Usher of the Black Rod from the
Committee of both Houses appointed to examine him
and others.
Sir Josias Child & al. to attend:
ORDERED, by the Lords Spiritual and Temporal
in Parliament assembled, That Sir Josias Child, Mr.
Nathaniel Mol'neaux, Mr. Richard Acton, Mr. Fowles,
Mr. Wootton, Mr. Horneby, Mr. Allen, and Mr. Tyssen,
do forthwith attend this House.
Sir Basil Firebrace & al. sworn.
Sir Bazil Firebrace, Mr. Horneby, and Mr. Fowles,
were sworn, in order to be examined at the Committee
of both Houses.
Adjourn.
Dominus Custos Magnl Sigilli declaravit præsens
Parliamentum continuandum esse usque ad et in diem
Jovis, (videlicet,) vicesimum quintum diem instantis
Aprilis, hora duodecima Aurora, Dominis sic decernentibus.