DIE Martis, 23 die Octobris.
Domini tam Spirituales quam Temporales præsentes
|His Royal Highness the Duke of Yorke.
Epus. Litch. et Cov.
Ds. Cancellarius Angl.
Ds. Thesaurarius Angl.
Ds. Custos Privati Sigilli.
Ds. Camerarius Hospitii.
Viscount Say et Seale.
Ds. Howard de Charlt.
Ds. Grey de Wark.
Ds. Howard de Esc.
Ds. Herbert de Cherbury.
Ds. Gerard de Brandon.
Ds. Berkley de Stratton.
Hemp and Flax Bill.
vice lecta est Billa, "An Act for Encouragement of sowing and planting of Hemp and Flax."
The Question being put, "Whether this Bill shall
It was Resolved in the Affirmative.
Message to H. C. with it.
A Message was sent to the House of Commons, by
Sir William Childe and Sir Nathaniell Hobart:
To deliver to them the Bill concerning the Encouragement of sowing and planting Hemp and Flax; and
to desire their Concurrence thereunto.
E. of Cleveland's Bill.
vice lecta est Billa, An Act to enlarge the
Time given by former Act, for the Redemption of
Mortgages made by the Earl of Cleveland."
Bill to prevent Frauds in receiving the King's Monies.
vice lecta est Billa, "An Act for preventing
Concealments, and all other Frauds and Deceits, in
those Persons that are accountable to His Majesty for
the Receipt of Monies."
The same Lords that managed the last Conference
are to report this Conference with the House of Commons.
Report of the Conference concerning the Vote against importing French Commodities.
The House was adjourned during Pleasure, and the
Lords went to the Conference with the House of Commons; which being ended, the House was resumed.
And the Earl of Anglesey reported the Effect of the
said Conference; (videlicet,)
"That Mr. Solicitor, at this Conference, gave Satisfaction to those Difficulties propounded by their Lordships at the last Conference."
"He said, That their Lordships being satisfied concerning the Matter of the Business, saves them a Labour of speaking to it."
"Concerning their Lordships First Proposition, That
His Majesty's Customs may be impaired thereby, the
Commons say, They desire their Lordships to consider,
that in all Ages, in Time of War, there hath been
the same Kind of Prohibitions, grounded from Magna
Charta, Cap. 30; and in other Kings Times the like
was done, as 27 H. VI. I. 28 H. VI. I. 4 E. IV. 6.
By some of which Laws it appears, that when the
Duke of Burgundy had prohibited our English Cloth,
the Kings of England prohibited the importing of
Commodities from his Jurisdictions."
"The Commons say, Herein they build on the Wisdom
of their Ancestors, in making such Prohibitions in
such Times, whereby the Crown suffered in the Profits, as now; yet the Loss of it was not put in Balance with the Disadvantage it brought to the Enemies."
"But to come lower; as to the Proclamation made
by the King, the 15th of March 1664, by which
Dutch Commodities were prohibited, though His Majesty had Loss thereby, yet He never balanced the
Dignity of the Crown to a little Profit; and the
Commons say, there is the same Parity of Reason for
this, of prohibiting French Commodities, unless that
the Rigour against the Dutch be greater than that
against the French. They say further, That the King's
Revenue will be more diminished by French Trade, if
they be permitted to carry out the Money and Wealth
of this Kingdom."
"They look upon this Diminution of the King's
Revenue very tenderly, as their own Loss; and the
King hath great Assurance that they will never desert
Him in the carrying on of the present War, but will
supply Him with their Lives and Fortunes."
"As concerning the Loss of the Duke of Yorke's
Revenue by Wine Licenses, the Commons say, That
the Law as it stands hath brought this Loss on him,
as the Act of Navigation, for by that Act no English
Ship, much less no French, can bring in such Commodities; nothing but Dispensation can relieve him,
which is besides the Law. They believe his Royal
Highness will not repine, though he find his Revenue
to depend upon Accidents of Peace and War, as others
do. And His Majesty will take Care of him, as we
answer His Majesty's Occasions.
"As concerning the Proposition which their Lordships have given, That Care may be taken that French
Wines may not be brought in under colour of Rhenish
Wine; the Commons say, That they do see an apparent Possibility of Fraud if they come in, and further
diminishing of our Revenues; but it is better to hazard that, than to beget new Differences with the
Princes of Germany and the King of Spaine, out of
whose Territories those Wines come, because we have
Enemies enough already.
"To the Fourth Proposition of their Lordships, That
the Prohibition may extend to all the King's Dominions; the Commons say, That if the other Dominions
be free to import, it will frustrate the Act: Therefore
they acknowledge their Lordships Care in this Proposal, and do agree to it; and desire that the Address
to His Majesty may be amended so in this Point."
Bill to prevent the Importation of Irish Cattle.
After this, the House was adjourned into a Committee, to debate and further consider of the Bill against
importing of Irish Cattle, &c.
And after a long Debate, the House was resumed.
And it is ORDERED, That the Debate of this Bill
shall be resumed To-morrow Morning, in a Committee
of the whole House.
Dominus Cancellarius declaravit præsens Parliamentum continuandum esse usque in diem Mercurii, videlicet,
24um diem instantis Octobris, hora decima Aurora, Dominis sic decernentibus.