House of Lords Journal Volume 12
19 October 1669

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'House of Lords Journal Volume 12: 19 October 1669', Journal of the House of Lords: volume 12: 1666-1675 (1767-1830), pp. 251-253. URL: http://www.british-history.ac.uk/report.aspx?compid=12601 Date accessed: 24 July 2014.


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Anno 21 Caroli Secundi

DIE Martis, Decimo Nono die Octobris, 1669, Anno Regni Serenissimi Domini Nostri Caroli Secundi, Dei Gratiâ, Angliæ, Scotiæ, Franciæ, et Hiberniæ Regis, Fidei Defensoris, &c. Vicesimo Primo; quo die præsens hæc Octava Parliamenti Sessio tenenda est apud Civitatem Westm. ibi tam Spirituales quam Temporales Domini, quorum Nomina subscribuntur, præsentes fuerunt:

REX.

His Royal Highness the Duke of Yorke.
Arch. Cant.
Arch. Eborac.
Epus.London.
Epus.Durham.
Epus.Winton.
Epus.Ely.
Epus.Cov. et Litch.
Epus.Sarum.
Epus. Carlile.
Epus. Oxon.
Epus.Rochester.
Epus.Landaffe.
Epus.Chester.
Sir Orlando Bridgman, Mil. et Bar. Dominus Custos Magni Sigilli.
Dux Bucks.
Dux Albemarle.
Marq. Worcester.
Robertus Comes de Lyndsey, Magnus Camerarius Angliæ.
Jacobus Comes de Brecknock, Senescallus Hospitii Domini Regis.
Comes Oxon.
Comes Dorsett.
Comes Bridgwater.
Comes Clare.
Comes Bolingbrooke.
Comes Dover.
Comes Sunderland.
Comes Norwich.
Comes Scarsdale.
Comes Sandwich.
Comes Essex.
Comes Anglesey.
Comes Bath.
Comes Craven.
Comes Aylsbury.
Comes Burlington.
Vicecomes Hereford.
Vicecomes Mountague.
Vicecomes Stafford.
Vicecomes Fauconberg.
Vicecomes Mordant.
Vicecomes Hallifax.
Ds. Arlington, One of the Principal Secretaries of State.
Ds. Awdley.
Ds. Berkley de Berkley.
Ds. Sandis.
Ds. Eure.
Ds. Wharton.
Ds. Willoughby de Parham.
Ds. Tenham.
Ds. Newport.
Ds. Hatton.
Ds. Lucas.
Ds. Bellasis.
Ds. Gerard de Brandon.
Ds. Berkley de Stratton.
Ds. Holles.
Ds. Delamer.
Ds. Ashley.
Ds. Arundell de Trerice.
Ds. Butler de Moore Parke.

PRAYERS.

King present.

His Majesty being present this Day, and sitting in His Royal Throne, adorned with His Regal Crown and Robes (the Peers sitting in their Robes uncovered); the Gentleman Usher of the Black Rod was commanded by His Majesty to let the House of Commons know, "That it was His Majesty's Pleasure that they come presently, with their Speaker, to attend His Majesty."

Who being come, His Majesty made this short Speech following:

King's Speech.

"My Lords and Gentlemen,

"I am very glad to see you here at this Time, and I hope this will be a happy Meeting; for I have had great Experience of your Affection and Loyalty to Me, and am very confident of your Continuance of it. It is now almost a Year and a Half since your last Sitting; and though My Debts have pressed Me very much, yet I was unwilling to call for your Assistance till this Time.

"What you gave Me last, was wholly applied to the Navy, and that extraordinary Fleet for which it was intended. I desire that you will now take My Debts effectually into your Considerations. Something I have to propose to you of great Importance, concerning the Uniting of England and Scotland; but it will require some Length: And I have left that, and some other Things, to my Lord Keeper, to open them fully to you."

Then the Lord Keeper spake as follows:

L. Keeper's Speech.

"My Lords; and you Knights, Citizens, and Burgesses, of the House of Commons;

"His Majesty, in His most Gracious Speech, hath expressed His great Satisfaction in seeing you here at this Time, and his Hopes of a happy Issue of this Meeting: To obtain this, nothing can conduce more than a good Correspondency and Union among yourselves.

"He hath Reason to believe that you all come with the same common Affections for the general Good, and therefore persuades Himself there will be no Differences between the Two Houses: But if there should be any such, He earnestly recommends it to you, that, by your Moderation and Wisdoms, such Expedients may be found out as may compose them, and that thereby no Delay or Obstruction be to your other Proceedings.

"His Majesty hath also desired you to take His Debts effectually into Consideration: I need not mention to you the Uneasiness of His Condition with that Burden; nor the Inconveniencies or Mischiefs which might fall out if He should continue under it.

"It is not unknown to you, that His Majesty hath been a happy Instrument, by the Treaty at Aix and by the Triple Alliance, to procure Peace between the Two Neighbouring Crowns; the Securing of that Peace (wherein our own Peace is concerned), and His Majesty's Reputation Abroad, will also much depend upon your Kindness to Him; and therefore He hopes, that your will consider of how great an Importance it is, at this Time, that His Majesty be enabled to bear such a Part in the Affairs of Europe, as may contribute most to His own Honour, and the Safety, Benefit, and Glory, of this Nation,

"My Lords and Gentlemen,

"You may remember that, upon His Majesty's Recommendation, an Act was lately made, for settling Freedom and Intercourse of Trade between England and Scotland, which was occasioned upon Complaints of new Duties imposed in each Kingdom upon divers Commodities of the Growth, Production, or Manufacture, of the other.

"According to this Act, Commissioners were appointed by His Majesty for both Kingdoms, to treat upon that Affair; and they had several Meetings, which produced no Effect, unless it were a Conviction of the Difficulty, if not Impossibility, of settling it in any other Way than by a nearer and more complete Union of the Two Kingdoms.

"His Majesty is fully persuaded, that nothing can tend more to the Good and Security of both Nations, than such an Union; and finds that His Royal Grandfather King James of Blessed Memory, went so far on towards this good Work, that, by Act of Parliament in the First Year of His Reign, Commissioners were authorized to treat and consult with Commissioners from Scotland concerning it.

"And, in Pursuance of their Treating, in the Fourth Year of His Reign, an Act was made for the Repeal of Hostile Laws, and the Abolition of the Memory of Hostility between the Two Nations; and, after the End of that Session, about the Seventh Year of His Reign, it was (by the Judges of all the Courts at Westminster Hall) solemnly adjudged, in the Case of the Post Nati, that those who (after the Descent of the Crown to King James) were born in Scotland were no Aliens in England, and consequently were capable, not only of Lands, but all other Immunities, as if they had been born here.

"By these Steps, so great an Advance hath been made towards this Union, that His Majesty well hopes, that what is yet wanting to the perfecting it may be now accomplished; the Continuance under the same Obedience and Subjection for near Threescore and Seven Years having begotten the same common Friends and common Enemies to both Nations, and taken off a great Part of those Difficulties which at the First stood in the Way.

"And therefore His Majesty doth most heartily recommend it unto you, that Commissioners may be nominated, to treat and consult with Commissioners from Scotland, concerning this Union. His Majesty hath given Directions to the Earl of Lauderdale, His Commissioner for Scotland, to make the like Proposal to the Parliament which is now sitting there; and doubts not but, upon the Meeting of such Commissioners of both Kingdoms, those Things will be offered to your Considerations, in order to the Union, as shall tend to the Honour of His Majesty and the common Good of all His Subjects.

"And this is all I have in Command to say at this Time."

After this, His Majesty withdrew.

Address of Thanks to the King, for these Speeches.

ORDERED, That the humble Thanks of this House be presented to His Majesty, for His Gracious Speech, and that of the Lord Keeper's by His Appointment; and that His Majesty would be pleased to give Order for the Printing and Publishing of them both; and that the Lord Steward and the Lord Arlington are appointed to attend His Majesty forthwith for that Purpose.

Bill to prevent Frauds in exporting Wool, &c.

Hodie 1a vice lecta est Billa, "An Act for preventing of Frauds in exporting Wool, Woolfells, Mortlings, Shorlings, Wool Flocks, or any Yarn made of Wool, contrary to former Acts made in that Behalf."

House to be called, and Orders read.

ORDERED, That this House shall be called this Day Sevennight, the 26th of this Instant October, at which Time the Orders of this House shall be read.

Committee of Privileges.

Lords Committees appointed to take Consideration of the Customs and Orders of this House, and Privileges of Parliament and the Peers of this Kingdom and Lords of Parliament, videlicet,

His Royal Highness the Duke of Yorke.
Dux Bucks.
Dux Albemarle.
Marq. Worcester.
L. Great Chamberlain.
L. Steward.
Comes Oxon.
Comes Dorsett.
Comes Bridgwater.
Comes Clare.
Comes Bolingbrooke.
Comes Dover.
Comes Sunderland.
Comes Norwich.
Comes Scarsdale.
Comes Sandwich.
Comes Essex.
Comes Anglesey.
Comes Bath.
Comes Craven.
Comes Aylsbury.
Comes Burlington.
Vicecomes Hereford.
Vicecomes Mountague.
Vicecomes Stafford.
Vicecomes Fauconbridge.
Vicecomes Mordant.
Vicecomes Hallyfax.
Arch. Cant.
Arch. Eborac.
Epus. London.
Epus. Durham.
Epus. Winton.
Epus. Ely.
Epus. Cov. et Litch.
Epus. Sarum.
Epus. Carlile.
Epus. Oxon.
Epus. Rochester.
Epus. Landaffe.
Epus. Chester.
Ds. Arlington.
Ds. Awdley.
Ds. Berkley de Berkley.
Ds. Sandis.
Ds. Eure.
Ds. Wharton.
Ds. Willoughby de Parham.
Ds. Tenham.
Ds. Newport.
Ds. Hatton.
Ds. Lucas.
Ds. Bellasis.
Ds. Gerard de Brand.
Ds. Berkley de Strat.
Ds. Holles.
Ds. Delamer.
Ds. Ashley.
Ds. Arundell de Trerice.
Ds. Butler.

Their Lordships, or any Seven of them; to meet on Monday next, at Three of the Clock in the Afternoon, and afterwards every Monday; and have Power to adjourn themselves as they please.

Committee for the Journal.

Lords Sub-committees appointed to consider of the Orders and Customs of this House, and Privileges of the Peers of this Kingdom and Lords of Parliament; and to peruse and perfect the Journal Book:

Comes Dorsett.
Comes Bridgwater.
Comes Clare.
Comes Bolingbrooke.
Comes Dover.
Comes Scarsdale.
Comes Essex.
Comes Anglesey.
Comes Craven.
Vicecomes Stafford.
Epus. London.
Epus. Durham.
Epus. Winton.
Epus. Ely.
Epus. Cov. et Litch.
Epus. Sarum.
Epus. Rochester.
Epus. Chester.
Ds. Eure.
Ds. Wharton.
Ds. Willoughby de Parham.
Ds. Lucas.
Ds. Holles.
Ds. Ashley.
Ds. Arundell de Trerice.

Their Lordships, or any Three of them; to meet on Saturday next, at Three of the Clock in the Afternoon, and afterwards every Saturday; and at such other Times as they shall think fit.

Committee for Petitions.

Lords Committees appointed by this House to receive and consider of Petitions; and afterwards to make Report thereof to the House:

His Royal Highness the Duke of Yorke.
Dux Bucks.
Dux Albemarle.
Marq. Worcester.
L. Great Chamberlain.
L. Steward.
Comes Oxon.
Comes Dorsett.
Comes Bridgwater.
Comes Clare.
Comes Bolingbrooke.
Comes Dover.
Comes Sunderland.
Comes Norwich.
Comes Scarsdale.
Comes Sandwich.
Comes Essex.
Comes Anglesey.
Comes Bath.
Comes Craven.
Comes Aylsbury.
Comes Burlington.
Vicecomes Hereford.
Vicecomes Mountague.
Vicecomes Stafford.
Vicecomes Fauconberg.
Vicecomes Mordant.
Vicecomes Hallyfax.
Arch. Cant.
Arch. Yorke.
Epus. London.
Epus. Durham.
Epus. Winton.
Epus. Ely.
Epus. Cov. et Litch.
Epus. Sarum.
Epus. Carlile.
Epus. Oxon.
Epus. Rochester.
Epus. Landaffe.
Epus. Chester.
Ds. Arlington.
Ds. Awdley.
Ds. Berkley de Berkley.
Ds. Sandys.
Ds. Eure.
Ds. Wharton.
Ds. Willoughby.
Ds. Tenham.
Ds. Newport.
Ds. Hatton.
Ds. Lucas.
Ds. Bellasis.
Ds. Gerard de Brand.
Ds. Berkley de Strat.
Ds. Holles.
Ds. Delamer.
Ds. Ashley.
Ds. Arundell de Trerice.
Ds. Butler.

Their Lordships, or any Five of them; to meet on Tuesday next, at Three of the Clock in the Afternoon, in the Painted Chamber, and afterwards every Tuesday; and to adjourn themselves from Time to Time, as they think fit.

Lord Sandys takes his Seat.

This Day Henry Lord Sandys, of The Vyne, first sat in Parliament, by Writ of Summons, dated 11° Octobris, Anno Regni Domini Nostri Regis Caroli IIdi 21°, upon the Death of his Brother William Lord Sandys.

Adjourn.

Dominus Custos Magni Sigilli declaravit præsens Parliamentum continuandum esse usque in diem Mercurii, 20um diem instantis Octobris, hora decima Aurora, Dominis sic decernentibus.