House of Commons Journal Volume 3
28 September 1643

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'House of Commons Journal Volume 3: 28 September 1643', Journal of the House of Commons: volume 3: 1643-1644 (1802), pp. 256-258. URL: http://www.british-history.ac.uk/report.aspx?compid=1269 Date accessed: 02 September 2014.


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Die Jovis, 28 Septembris, 1643.

PRAYERS.

Military Affairs.

A LETTER from Sir Wm. Waller, from Staines, of the Twenty-sixth of September, concerning the dispatching away his Forces and Artillery unto him, was this Day read.

Sir H. Vane, Sir Ben. Rudyar, Mr. Reynolds, Sir Nevile Poole, are appointed to go forthwith to my Lord General, to take Notice of his Excellency's Letter, when he sent the Commission; and of Sir Wm. Waller's Letter, and his Willingness to submit to my Lord General's Directions; and to represent the State of Matters as now they stand; and to desire his Lordship, that if any thing has passed from Sir Wm. Waller that might give his Excellency any Distaste, that, of his own Goodness and Respect to the Commonwealth, he would pass by all, and submit it to the publick Good; and that he would give him Directions; and enable him to do Service.

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Members deserting Parliament.

Resolved, That the Estate of Sir Tho. Eversfield shall be forthwith sequestered, for his long and wilful neglecting and deserting the Service of the Commonwealth, in not attending, as he ought, in the House.

Resolved, That the Estate of Sir Tho. Peyton shall be forthwith sequestered, for his long and wilful neglecting and deserting the Service of the Commonwealth, in not attending, as he ought, in the House.

Resolved, That the Estate of Mr. Cattlyn shall be forthwith sequestered, for his long and wilful neglecting and deserting the Service of the Commonwealth, in not attending, as he ought, in the House.

Resolved, &c. That the Estate and Office of Mr. Potter shall be forthwith sequestered, for his long and wilful neglecting and deserting the Service of the Commonwealth, in not attending, as he ought, in the House.

Resolved, &c. That the Estate of Sir Roger Palmer shall be forthwith sequestered, for his long and wilful neglecting and deserting the Service of the Commonwealth, in not attending, as he ought, in the House.

Resolved, &c. That the Estate of Sir Edw. Alforde shall be forthwith sequestered, for his long and wilful neglecting and deserting the Service of the Commonwealth, in not attending, as he ought, in the House.

Resolved, &c. That the Estates of Sir Patricius Curwyn, Sir Geo. Dalliston, Sir Wm. Samford, Sir Ph. Musgrave, and Sir Wm. Dallston shall be forthwith sequestered, for their long and wilful neglecting and deserting the Service of the Commonwealth, in not attending, as they ought, in the House.

Resolved, &c. That the Estate of Sir Guy Palmes shall be forthwith sequestered, for his long and wilful neglecting and deserting the Service of the Commonwealth, in not attending, as he ought, in the House.

Member discharged.

Resolved, &c. That Sir Guy Palmes shall be forthwith discharged from being, or sitting as a Member of this House during this Parliament.

Sir Wm. Waller.

Sir H. Vane reports, that he had delivered the Commands of this House to my Lord General, touching Sir Wm. Waller: That his Excellency was pleased to answer, That whatsoever has passed shall be buried with him; and he will begin upon a new Score, and will give him the best Encouragement he can.

Constanstine's Sequestration.

Resolved, &c. That the Estate of Mr. Constanstine shall be forthwith sequestered.

Member deserting Parliament.

Resolved, &c. That the Estate of Sir Jo. Meaux shall be forthwith sequestered, for his long and wilful neglecting and deserting the Service of the Commonwealth in not attending in the House, as he ought.

Absent Members.

Ordered, That Serjeant Cresheld, Sir Rich. Wyme, Sir Poynings Moore, Sir Alexander Denton, Sir George Stonhowse, Mr. Fettyplace, Mr. Bagshawe, Mr. Jo. Alforde, Mr. Kirle, Mr. Taylor, Sir F. Barnham, Sir Walth. Smyth, Mr. Ben. Weston, Sir Jo. Lee, Mr. Tho. Coke, Mr. Seaborne, Mr. Pleddall, Sir Theobalt Gorge, Mr. Dutton, Mr. Hebblethwayte, Serjeant Evers, Mr. Bisse, Mr. Fanshawe, Mr. Allestree, do attend, the Tenth of October, the Committee for sequestring the Estates of such Members as neglect the Service of the House, upon Pain of sequestering their Estates; and give an Account to that Committee of their Absence, before they be admitted to sit in the House.

Mr. Sutton and Sir Gervase Clifton are likewise injoined to attend the Committee at the same Time; in the like manner, and upon the like Penalty; if they be not already put out of the House.

Ordered, That the Committee, concerning the sequestring the Estates of such Members as neglect the Service of the House, be revived; and do meet this Afternoon at Three of Clock, in the usual Place; and that the Members do give Information.

Naval Affairs.

Ordered, That it be referred to the Committee of the Navy, to send down a Ship of good Strength to Yermouth, to be victualled there, and to do Service upon those Coasts: And that the Bailiff of Yermouth shall be repaid so much as the victualling amount unto, out of the Customs of that Town.

Ordered, That it be referred to the Committee of the Navy, to examine and consider of the Matter of Fact of those Linne Ships that have been taken, by Reprisal, and are now at Yermouth; and that such as have been taken during the time of the Siege at Lynne, or are the Ships and Goods of ill-affected Persons, may be sent up, and sold, for the Service of the Navy.

Lord Lisle thanked.

Upon the Report of the Committee of this House sent into Ireland, of the great and faithful Service done there, by Lord Lisle;

It was Ordered, That the publick Thanks of this House should be given to my Lord Lisle; in Acknowledgment of his true and faithful Service:

And Mr. Speaker gave him Thanks accordingly.

Lord Gray, &c. thanked.

Ordered, That the Lord Gray, Sir Philip Stapilton, Sir Jo. Merrick, Sir Sam. Luke, and Captain Charles Pym, Members of this House, and of the Parliament, shall have the publick Thanks of this House given them; in Acknowledgment and Testimony of the great Service done by them, and the other Commanders of the Army, in their late great Services to the Commonwealth: And they are desired to return the like Thanks to the other Officers of the Army:

And Mr. Speaker did give them Thanks accordingly.

City Magistrates.

Ordered, That, whereas the Safety of the Parliament and City do much depend upon the Choice of able Magistrates (such as may be confided in) in the City of London; and chiefly the Lord Mayor; that Mr. Glyn, the Recorder of the said City, shall give Notice To-morrow Morning, to the Citizens that meet at Guildhall, to that End; that they may take the same into Consideration, that no Man may be put in Nomination that hath shewn his Disaffection to the Proceeding of the Parliament, or the Safety of the City.

Leave of Absence.

Ordered, That the Lord Lisle shall have Leave to go into the Country, and to be absent for Three Weeks.

Rutland Committee.

Ordered, That the Committees for Rutlandshire do forthwith put in Execution the Ordinances, for Sequestrations, of the Twentieth Part, and for the weekly Assessments, in the County of Rutland; and particularly, to sequester the Estate of Sir Guy Palmes: And it is especially recommended to Mr. Wayte, to see the said Ordinances, and this Order, forthwith put in Execution.

Message to Lords.

Ordered, That a Message be sent to the Lords, to acquaint them with the great want of Monies; and to desire them to send to Mr. Justice Berkeley; peremptorily to pay the Fine set upon him, by the Day appointed.

Brooke's Estate.

Ordered, That Sir Philip Stapilton do bring in an Ordinance for the sequestring and disposing of the Michaelmas Rents of Sir Wm. Brooke, to the Use of his Lady and Children; and for the sequestring of the Estate, if it descend to Sir Jo. Brooke; and for the providing, out of the Estate, Portions for Sir Wm. Brooke's Children.

Cornets, &c.

A Message from the Lords, by Sir Rob. Riche and Mr. Page;

He was to acquaint the House, that the Lord General had presented to the House of Peers divers Cornets, Six whereof were taken at Cirencester, the other in the Battle. They desire you to take notice of Two of them; the one was, the Picture of the Lords House, with Two Heads upon each End of it, and the Words, "ut extra, sic "intus;" the other was, a Cavalier in Pursuit of a Round Head; the Word of the Round Head, "Quarter;" the Cavalier's, "qui sequitur vincit". The Prisoners, with whom they were taken, are at Windesore Castle. My Lords would know whether they would have them sent hither, or examined there.

Ordered, That Mr. Strode be desired to go to the Lord General, to desire his Excellency to send a List of the Prisoners at Windesore.

Answer returned by the same Messengers, That this House has considered their Lordships Message; and will send Answer by Messengers of their own.

Message from Lords.

A Message from the Lords, by Serjeant Whitfield and Serjeant Finch;

The Lords desire a present Conference, by Committees of this House, presently, in the Painted Chamber, if it may stand with the Conveniency of this House, concerning an Ordinance formerly made concerning Currans.

They have sent down an Order, in which they desire the Concurrence of this House, concerning the Incumbency of Sundridge in Kent.

They do agree to the Ordinance for cutting down of Woods, with the Alterations, as they are sent down: And this Ordinance, as it is now penned, hath relation to a Committee of both Houses; and they have nominated Six of their House, to join with a Committee, of a proportionable Number of this House, to be a Committee named in this Ordinance for the putting it in Execution.

Answer.

Answer returned by the same Messengers; that, as to the Ordinance for Sundriche, in Kent, this House doth agree; and, as to the rest, they will send an Answer, by Messengers of their own.

Ordinance for Wood.

Mr. Serjeant Wilde, Mr. Pury, Mr. Wheeler, Sir Rob. Pye, Mr. Recorder, Mr. Bell, Sir Hen. Heyman, Sir Hen. Mildmay, Sir Tho. Dacres, Mr. Vassall, Sir Pet. Wroth, Sir Rich. Onsloe, Sir Tho. Soame, Mr. White, Mr. Strode;

This Committee, or any Six of them, is to consider of the Amendments in the Ordinance for Wood: And are to meet this Afternoon, at Three Clock, in the Court of Wards.

Preservation of the State.

Mr. Reynolds, Sir Hen. Mildmy, Mr. Strode, Mr. Lisle; This Committee is to consider what is fit to be done upon these Cornets that were this Day sent down from the Lords, and the Bull from the Pope; and to English the Bull; and to make a Preface to it; and to consider of some Propositions that may conduce to the Preservation of the State, during the Absence of the King from the Parliament.

Committee for Money.

Mr. Trenchard, Mr. Millington, Mr. Young, Mr. Tate, Mr. Jo. Goodwyn, Mr. Pury, Mr. Ashurst, Mr. Oldesworth, Mr. Reynolds, Sir Arth. Haselrigg, Mr. Bainton, Sir Hen. Heyman, Sir Walt. Erle, Mr. Blakeston, Mr. Rob. Goodwyn, Mr. Corbett, Sir Rich. Onsloe, Mr. Solicitor, Mr. Moore, Mr. Lisle, Sir Hen. Ludloe, Sir Jo. Dreydon;

This Committee, or any Four of them, are to consider, what Course is fittest to be taken for the present getting in of Monies; and how a continual Supply may be had; and to propose what Committees are fit to be settled for that Purpose: And it is especially recommended to Mr. Lisle, to take a care of this Order: And are to meet this Afternoon, at Three a Clock, in the Court of Wards; and so, from time to time.

Money for Barwicke.

Ordered, That it be referred to the Committee appointed to go into London, to treat for Monies for the Navy, to use what Means they can for procuring Five hundred Pounds, to comply with the Five hundred Pounds taken up by the Commissioners in Scotland, for the Service of the Town of Barwicke, and charged upon the Treasurer at Wars.

New Seal.

Ordered, That the Seal, formerly ordered to be cut, and this Day brought in, shall be sealed up, and delivered into the Custody of Mr. Speaker, not to be made use of, till the House take further Order.

Hull Garison.

Mr. Corbett, Mr. Broxholme, Mr. Hoyle, Mr. Blakiston, Sir Edward Ascough, Sir William Allanson, Mr. Ellis, are appointed to take care of, and direct, that the Monies assigned, and received for Hull, may be sent down; and to send my Lord Fairefax word, what Monies have been assigned and received for that Garison; and to write to Sir William Constable, to know what Monies he hath received, and what Forces he hath raised; and to signify the Pleasure of the House unto him, that he forthwith send those Monies and Forces to Hull: And the Committee have Power to send for Parties, Witnesses, Papers, Records, &c.

Honywood's Sequestration.

Upon a Letter from the Deputy Lieutenants of the County of Kent, from Sittingborne, of the One-and-twentieth of September 1643;

It is Resolved, upon the Question, That the Estate of Sir Robert Honywood be forthwith sequestred, for neglecting the publick Service of the County.

Ipswich Committee.

Ordered, That Mr. Robert Dancon and Mr. Peter Fisher, Bailiffs, and Mr. John Brandlinge, may be added to the Committee for Sequestrations, and weekly Assessments, for the Town of Ipswich.

Proceedings against Hales, &c.

Mr. Prideaux reports from the Committee appointed to examine the Business concerning Sir Edward Hales and Sir George Sands, about the late Insurrection in Kent:

Whereupon it was Resolved, &c. That the Estate of Sir George Sands shall be forthwith sequestred to the Use of the Commonwealth.

Resolved, &c. That the Estate of Sir Edward Hales shall be forthwith sequestred for the Use of the Commonwealth: And it is referred to the Committee for the Garison of the City of Gloucester, to have a Care of the Sequestration of these Estates.

Resolved, &c. That Mr. John Best, of Maidston, shall be forthwith sent for, as a Delinquent *.

Ordered, That Mr. Twisden, Recorder of Maidston, be forthwith summoned to attend the Parliament.

Money for Barwicke.

Ordered, That it be referred to the Committee at Haberdashers Hall, to take care, that the Five hundred Pounds, borrowed by the Commissioners in Scotland for the Service of Barwicke, and charged upon the Treasurer at Wars, be complied with.

Soldiers at Poole.

Ordered, That the Two hundred Pounds, given by Mrs. Barbara Lochere of Fulham, to the Parliament, shall be assigned and paid to Mr. Trenchard, or his Assigns, for the Payment of the Soldiers in Poole.

Western Clothiers, &c.

Ordered, That it be referred to the Committee for the Western Clothiers, to consider of the Monies to be paid for Wools bought in Middlesex by some western Clothiers, and to whom the Monies is to be paid.

Wolstenholme's, &c. Sequestration.

Whereas Sir John Wolstenholme, Sir Nicholas Crispe, Sir George Stroud, Sir Thomas Hamersley, Sir Thomas Abdy, Knights, and Mr. Gardner, hath been declared by this House to be Delinquents within the Ordinance of Sequestration; whereby all their Adventures by Sea and Land, Debts, Goods, and Chattels are liable unto Seizure, for the Commonwealth: And whereas Mr. Blackiston, a Member of this House, is formally authorized to take the Goods into his Possession; and to make Sale thereof for the Payment of such particular Gentlemen of the House of Commons as have advanced Monies, for the Payment of the Forces under the Command of Sir Wm. Waller: It is this Day Ordered, by the Commons assembled in Parliament, That the said Mr. Blakiston shall have Power, and is hereby required, to sequester and seize, or cause to be sequestred or seized, for the Service abovesaid; and to sell... compound for; all such Adventures, or any other Debts, as shall be discovered to belong unto any of the aforesaid Delinquents; and to receive, and pay, the Monies thereupon arising, as aforesaid: And that, for his so doing, he, and all those that shall contract and deal with him, or pay Monies in lieu thereof, shall be saved harmless, and kept indemnified, by the Authority of this House.

Ordered, That Mr. Blackiston, or whom he shall appoint, do seize and sequester the Eighteen Skins of Cinamon which was delivered unto Mr. Deleynoies, by Mr. Welden, Sir John Wolstenholme's Servant.

Raising Money for the Scots.

Ordered, That Mr. Hatcher, Mr. Solicitor, Sir Gilb. Gerard, Sir Henry Vane, Mr. Holland, Sir Arthur Hasilrigge, Mr. Ashe, Mr. Jo. Browne, Sir Tho. Soame, Sir Anthony Irby, Mr. Spurstoe, Mr. Trenchard, Mr. Reynolds, and Mr. Bond, do move the Lord Mayor and Common Council, to appoint a Committee to meet with a Committee of this House, for the raising of Monies for the Scots; and to agree upon such Security, as shall satisfy them for the Money that shall be so lent.