House of Lords Journal Volume 11: 11 September 1660

Journal of the House of Lords: Volume 11, 1660-1666. Originally published by His Majesty's Stationery Office, London, 1767-1830.

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'House of Lords Journal Volume 11: 11 September 1660', in Journal of the House of Lords: Volume 11, 1660-1666, (London, 1767-1830) pp. 167-169. British History Online https://www.british-history.ac.uk/lords-jrnl/vol11/pp167-169 [accessed 26 April 2024]

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DIE Martis, 11 die Septembris.

PRAYERS, by Dr. Hodges.

Domini præsentes fuerunt:

L. Chancellor.
L. Treasurer.
D. Albemarle.
Marq. Winton.
L. Great Chamberlain.
L. Chamberlain.
L. Steward.
Comes Northumb.
Comes Suffolke.
Comes Portland.
Comes Derby.
Comes Strafford.
Comes Shrewsbury.
Comes Bridgwater.
Comes Banbury.
Comes Bedford.
Comes Bollingbrooke.
Comes Dorsett.
Comes Lyncolne.
Comes Cleveland.
Comes Denbigh.
Comes Bristoll.
Viscount Hereford.
Comes Winchilsea.
Comes Peterborough.
Comes Dover.
Comes Rutland.
Viscount Conway.
Comes Leycester.
Comes Newport.
Comes Westm'land.
Comes Chesterfeild.		 Ds. Chandos.
Ds. Lovelace.
Ds. Langdale.
Ds. Lexinton.
Ds. Hatton.
Ds. Willoughby.
Ds. Hunsdon.
Ds. Dacre.
Ds. Culpeper.
Ds. Wharton.
Ds. Grey.
Ds. Vaughan.
Ds. Howard of Charlt.
Ds. Robertes.
Ds. Craven.
Ds. * Astley.
Ds. Loughborough.
Ds. Maynard.
Ds. Arundell.
Ds. Byron.
Ds. Gerard.
Ds. Seymour.
Ds. Coventrye.
Ds. Howard of Esc.
Ds. Ward.
Ds. Sandys.
Ds. Abergaveny.
Ds. Crofts.
Ds. Rockingham.
Ds. Carrington.
Ds. Wentworth.
Ds. Widdrington.

Message from H. C. with a Bill.

A Message was brought from the House of Commons, by the Lord Angier, &c.

To return a Bill sent down, concerning Sir George Lane Knight, wherein they do concur.

L. Lexington's Bill.

Hodie 3a vice lecta est Billa, "An Act to enable Thomas Lord Lexinton and Sir Thomas Williamson Baronet to raise and levy the Sum of Two Thousand Six Hundred and Eighty Pounds, and Damages, out of the Manors and Lands of John Hutchinson Esquire."

And the Question being put, "Whether this Bill should pass for a Law?"

It was Resolved in the Affirmative.

Report of the Conference, about the Bill for restoring Ministers.

The Lord Chancellor reported the Effect of the Conference Yesterday, concerning the Bill for confirming of Ministers:

"That they do agree with their Lordships in the First Part of the Proviso, so much concerning the Rectory of Acton: To the rest they do not concur, because it destroys the whole Intention and Body of the Bill; and Ministers will be put into a worse Condition than they were before: And hereby the King will be disabled to do that which He intends, and * hath declared Himself willing to do. That concerning the Matter of trying of Scandal, the House of Commons could wish it had not been in; but, being in, they desire it may pass for this Time, because it may found ill abroad if it should be left out."

Committee to amend the Bill.

And, after a Debate thereof, the House appointed these Lords following to withdraw presently, and alter the Proviso, and mend the Alterations according to the Sense of the House, and the Agreement with the House of Commons:

L. Chamberlain.
Comes Bristoll.
E. Strafford.		 Ds. Wharton.
Ds. Seymour.
Ds. Robertes.

Message from H. C. with a Bill.

A Message was brought from the House of Commons, by Arthur Annesley Esquire; who brought up a Bill for annexing Dunkerke and Mardike in Flanders, and Jamai'a in America, to the Crown of England.

Bill to annex Dunkirk, Mardyke, and Jamaica, to the Crown of England.

Hodie 1a et 2a vice lecta est Billa, "An Act for annexing Dunkerke and Mardike in Flanders, and the Island of Jamica in America, to the Crown of England."

ORDERED, That the Consideration of the abovesaid Bill be referred to these Lords following:

D. Albemarle.
L. Chamberlain.
L. Steward.
Comes Bristoll.
Comes Northumb.
Comes Portland.
Comes Dorsett.
Comes Winchilsea.
Comes Denbigh.
Comes Peterborough.
Comes Leycester.
Comes Derby.
Comes Chesterfeild.
Comes Bridgwater.		 Comes Bollingbrooke.
Comes Berks.
Viscount Conway.
Ds. Craven.
Ds. Grey.
Ds. Willoughby.
Ds. Culpeper.
Ds. Gerard.
Ds. Byron.
Ds. Lovelace.
Ds. Langdale.
Ds. Sandys.
Ds. Lexinton.

Their Lordships, or any Seven; to meet in the Prince's Lodgings, the 10th of November next ensuing.

Bill for restoring Ministers.

The Lord Wharton reported the Alterations and Amendments in the Bill for Ministers Confirmation; which Amendments, with a Proviso, † were read.

And the Question being put, "Whether to agree to the Proviso now read?"

It was Resolved in the Affirmative.

Protest against it.

Memorandum, That, before the putting of the abovesaid Question, these Lords following desired Leave to enter their Dissents, if the Question was carried in the Affirmative.

"Bolingbrooke.
Derby.
Hereford."

Bill for disbanding the Army, &c.

A Message was brought from the House of Commons, by Colonel Birch, &c.

To return a Bill sent to them, with some Amendments, concerning the disbanding of the Army; wherein the House of Commons agrees to some of the Alterations, and have made some Alterations therein, wherein they desire their Lordships Concurrence.

Message to H. C. for a Conference, about the Bill for restering Ministers.

A Message was sent to the House of Commons, by Mr. Hobart and Sir Edmond Peirce:

To desire a Free Conference, concerning the Bill for the Ministers, presently, in the Painted Chamber.

Answer returned was:

Answer.

That the House of Commons will give a present Free Conference, as is desired.

Bill for disbanding the Army.

Next, the Alterations in the Bill for disbanding the Army were read. And touching the Clause for dismantling Garrisons and Fortifications, it is committed to the Committee for the Bill for disbanding the Army; to withdraw presently, and mend that Clause, and report the same to the House.

Conference on the Bill for restoring Ministers.

The Lord Chancellor and the Lord Wharton were appointed to manage the Business at the next Free Conference.

The House was adjourned during Pleasure, and the Lords went to the Conference; which being ended, the House was resumed.

Message from H. C. with a Bill.

A Message was brought from the House of Commons, by Arthur Annesley Esquire and others; who brought up an Act, intituled, "An Act for the necessary Draining the Works of the Great Level of the Fens."

Bill for maintaining the Work of draining the Great Level.

Hodie 1a, 2a, et 3a vice lecta est Billa, "An Act for the necessary Maintenance of the Work of Draining the Great Level of the Fens."

And the Question being put, "Whether this Bill shall pass for a Law?"

It was Resolved in the Affirmative.

Bill for disbanding the Army.

The Earl of Bristoll reported from the Committee, the Amendments which are fit to be made in the Bill for disbanding of the Army; which said Amendments, being read Twice, were agreed to, and ordered to be delivered to the House of Commons, at a Free Conference.

Message to H. C. for a Conference about it.

A Message was sent to the House of Commons, by Mr. Hobart and Sir Edmond Peirce:

To desire a present Free Conference, in the Painted Chamber, concerning the Matter touching the Bill for disbanding of the Army.

The Lord Chancellor, with the Assistance of the Earl of Bristoll, is to manage this Free Conference.

Answer.

The Messengers return with this Answer from the House of Commons:

That they will give a present Free Conference, as is desired.

The House was adjourned during Pleasure, and the Lords went to the Conference; which being ended, the House was resumed.

Order to prevent Waste on the Estate of the Marq. of Worcester.

The House being informed, "That the Marquis of Worcester hath been dispossessed of his Estate in the late unhappy Wars, and that there hath been great Waste committed upon his Estate, contrary to Law:"

It is ORDERED, by the Lords in Parliament assembled, That there shall be no more Waste committed, upon the Honours, Manors, Lands, Houses, and Premises, of or belonging to the said Marquis of Worcester; and that the Order of the 20th of June last, and all other former Orders of this House made on the Behalf of the said Marquis, touching the Possession of his Estate, are hereby ratified and confirmed in all Points; any Thing done by the late usurped Power to the contrary in any wife notwithstanding: And hereof all Parties whom this doth or shall concern are to yield their Obedience hereunto, as they will answer the contrary to this House: Provided, That this Order, nor any Thing herein mentioned, shall extend to any Manors and Lands sold unto or enjoyed by Henry Lord Herbert, Son and Heir Apparent to the said Marquis.

Adjourn.

House adjourned till 4a post meridiem.

DIE Martis, 11° die Septembris, post meridiem.

PRAYERS, by Dr. Hodges.

Domini præsentes fuerunt:

L. Chancellor.
L. Treasurer.
D. Albemarle.
L. Great Chamberlain.
Marq. Winton.
Comes Peterborough.
Comes Banbury.
Comes Dorsett.
Comes Bollingbrooke.
Comes Winchilsea.
Comes Bridgwater.
Comes Shrewsbury.
Comes Derby.
Viscount Conway.
Comes Cleveland.
Comes Denbigh.
Comes Portland.		 Ds. Robertes.
Ds. Willoughby.
Ds. Seymour.
Ds. Byron.
Ds. Hunsdon.
Ds. Lexinton.
Ds. Grey.
Ds. D'acre.
Ds. Hatton.
Ds. Willoughby.
Ds. Wentworth.
Ds. Langdale.
Ds. Howard de Charlt.
Ds. Abergaveny.
Ds. Astley.
Ds. Wharton.
Ds. Lovelace.

Rodney versus Cole.

ORDERED, That this House will take into Consideration what Judgement to give in the Cause of Mrs. Rodney, against Cole and others, upon the 10th Day of November next.

Message from H. C. for a Conference on the Bill for disbanding the Army.

A Message was brought from the House of Commons, by Colonel Jones, &c.:

To desire a Free Conference, upon the Matter of the last Free Conference, touching the Bill for disbanding the Army.

The Answer returned was:

Answer.

That their Lordships have considered of their Message; and will give a present Free Conference, in the Painted Chamber, as is desired.

The House was adjourned during Pleasure, and the Lords went to the Conference; which being ended, the House was resumed.

Report of the Conference on the Bill for disbanding the Army.

The Lord Chancellor reported the Effect of the Conference with the House of Commons: "That they did agree to the Proviso sent from their Lordships; and they agree to their Lordships Alterations, with some few Amendments." Which being read, their Lordships agreed with the House of Commons therein.

Message to H. C. that the Lords agree to it; —and about another Bill.

A Message was sent to the House of Commons, by Dr. Bird and Mr. Hobart:

To let them know, that this House agrees with them in the Alterations in the Bill for disbanding the Army; and to put them in Mind of the Bill remaining with them, for bringing in of Grants and Patents.

Message from thence, with a Bill; —to remind the Lords of Two Bills; —and with Orders.

A Message was brought from the House of Commons, by Mr. Bampfield, &c.; who brought up the Bill concerning Ministers; signifying their Consents to the Alterations therein sent down to them.

2. To put their Lordships in Mind of passing the Bill concerning Marriages; the Bill concerning the Money for the Protestants in Piedmont.

3. To desire Concurrence in the several Orders now brought up, concerning Payment of Salaries to several Servants attending the House of Commons.

The Answer returned was:

Answer.

That their Lordships have considered of their Message, and will return an Answer by Messengers of their own.

Adjourn.

Adjourned till 9a cras Aurora.

Footnotes

  • 1. Bis in Originali.
  • 2. Origin. have.
  • 3. Origin. was.
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