House of Lords Journal Volume 17: 30 March 1704

Journal of the House of Lords: Volume 17, 1701-1705. Originally published by His Majesty's Stationery Office, London, 1767-1830.

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'House of Lords Journal Volume 17: 30 March 1704', in Journal of the House of Lords: Volume 17, 1701-1705, (London, 1767-1830) pp. 555-556. British History Online https://www.british-history.ac.uk/lords-jrnl/vol17/pp555-556 [accessed 26 April 2024]

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DIE Jovis, 30 Martii.

Domini tam Spirituales quam Temporales præsentes fuerunt:

Arch. Cantuar.
Arch. Ebor.
Epus. London.
Epus. Duresme, & Crew.
Epus. Sarum.
Epus. Lich. & Cov.
Epus. Norwic.
Epus. Petrib.
Epus. Gloucestr.
Epus. Cicestr.
Epus. Oxon.
Epus. Bangor.
Epus. Bath & Well.		 Ds. Custos Magni Sigilli.
Comes Pembroke, Præses.
Dux Buckingham, C. P. S.
Dux Devonshire, Senescallus.
Dux Somerset.
Dux Richmond.
Dux Southampton.
Dux Bolton.
Dux Bedford.
Dux Marlborough.
Comes Carlisle, Marescallus.
Comes Derby.
Comes Bridgewater.
Comes Northampton.
Comes Denbigh.
Comes Manchester.
Comes Rivers.
Comes Peterborow.
Comes Stamford.
Comes Winchilsea.
Comes Kingston.
Comes Carnarvon.
Comes Thanet.
Comes Sunderland.
Comes Scarsdale.
Comes Essex.
Comes Anglesey.
Comes Radnor.
Comes Nottingham.
Comes Rochester.
Comes Abingdon.
Comes Portland.
Comes Torrington.
Comes Scarbrough.
Comes Warrington.
Comes Bradford.
Comes Orford.
Viscount Townshend.
Viscount Weymouth.		 Ds. Bergevenny.
Ds. Lawarr.
Ds. Ferrers.
Ds. Paget.
Ds. Grey W.
Ds. Mohun.
Ds. Byron.
Ds. Vaughan.
Ds. Culpeper.
Ds. Lucas.
Ds. Rockingham.
Ds. Berkeley.
Ds. Cornwallis.
Ds. Dartmouth.
Ds. Stawell.
Ds. Guilford.
Ds. Cholmondeley.
Ds. Ashburnham.
Ds. Herbert.
Ds. Sommers.
Ds. Bernard.
Ds. Halifax.
Ds. Granville.
Ds. Gernsey.
Ds. Gower.
Ds. Hervey.

PRAYERS.

Subsidy Bill.

The House (pursuant to Order) was adjourned during Pleasure, and put into a Committee upon the Bill, intituled, "An Act for granting to Her Majesty an additional Subsidy of Tonnage and Poundage for Three Years; and for laying a further Duty upon French Wines condemned as lawful Prize; and for ascertaining the Values of unrated Goods imported from The East Indies."

After some Time, the House was resumed.

And the Lord Ferrers reported, "That the Committee had gone through the said Bill; and think it fit to pass, without any Amendment."

Hodie 3a vice lecta est Billa, intituled, "An Act for granting to Her Majesty an additional Subsidy of Tonnage and Poundage for Three Years; and for laying a further Duty upon French Wines condemned as lawful Prize; and for ascertaining the Values of unrated Goods imported from The East Indias."

The Question was put, "Whether this Bill shall pass?"

It was Resolved in the Affirmative.

ORDERED, That the Commons have Notice, that the Lords have agreed to the said Bill, without any Amendment.

Queen to be attended, with the Address.

The Lord Chamberlain acquainted the House, "That he had attended Her Majesty, to know what Time Her Majesty will be pleased to appoint, for this House to attend Her, with the Address agreed to Yesterday; and that Her Majesty has appointed To-morrow, at One a Clock, for this House to attend Her, with the Address."

Method of keeping Records in Offices; Report about.

The Lord Halifax reported from the Lords Committees (appointed to consider of the Method of keeping Records in Offices, and how they are kept, and to consider of Ways to remedy what shall be found to be amiss) as followeth; (videlicet,)

"The Committee appointed to consider of the Method of keeping Records in Offices, having met, proceeded in the First Place to inquire into the Manner how the Records in The Tower of London were kept; and, for that Purpose, sent for Mr. William Petyt, the Keeper of those Records.

"And having heard what Account he gave of the Method observed in that Office, according to the Power to them given by the House; they appointed a Sub-committee, to repair to The Tower, to view the said Records, and satisfy themselves of the State the same were in, and how the said Office was executed: Which they did accordingly.

"And the Committee take Leave to inform the House, That they find the Records which are in the Office to be in a good Condition, and to be carefully kept; and that the present Officer has fairly transcribed the old Calendars of most of the Rolls; but that there are a great Number of Rolls, from the First Year of King John to the End of Edward the Fourth's Reign, which have no Calendars, or Abstracts, made of them; (videlicet,) Rotuli Normanni&capaelig;, Franci&capaelig;, Vasconi&capaelig;, Walli&capaelig;, Rom&capaelig;, Scoti&capaelig;, Alemani&capaelig;, & Hiberni&capaelig;.

"The making these Calendars, as they ought to be made, will require a careful Perusal of all the Entries upon these Rolls by the Clerks that are employed therein.

"The Committee are humbly of Opinion, that it will be a Public Service, that this should be done.

"The Committee also observes to your Lordships, That in Cesar's Chapel, under the Leads in The White Tower, Multitudes of Records in several Reigns, some relating to State Matters, and others relating to Proceedings in Courts of Justice, lie in confused Heaps; and, if Care be not speedily taken of them, are in great Danger of utter perishing.

"The Committee are humbly of Opinion, That it will be a public Damage, as well as a Dishonour to the Kingdom, to suffer such Monuments of Antiquity to be lost.

"This will be too great a Work to be undertaken by the Keeper of the Records, unless there be allowances made to him for a considerable Number of Clerks, who understand the Languages and Hands in which the Records are written, and are capable of making Abstracts of them, under the Care and Direction of that Officer.

"It does appear, by the Writs de Calendariis faciendis, de Rotulis et Scriptis in recto Ordine ponendis, et Expensis Clericis ministrandis, that these Allowances have been anciently made to Clerks attending the Office of Records within The Tower.

"The Committee also inform your Lordships, That, if these Records were made clean, and reduced into Order, the same might be placed in the Room where the present Office is kept, at a small Expence."

Which Report was read, and agreed to.

L. Treasurer to lay it before the Queen.

Upon Consideration of the Report, made this Day, from the Lords Committees appointed to consider of the Methods of keeping Records in Offices:

It is ORDERED, by the Lords Spiritual and Temporal in Parliament assembled, That the Lord Treasurer do lay the said Report before Her Majesty, and humbly move Her Majesty to give Directions therein: And the Lord Treasurer is hereby desired to acquaint this House what is done in this Matter, the next Sessions of Parliament.

Bill fortaking, &c. Public Accompts. Report of the Conference.

Then the House proceeded to take into Consideration the Report of the Conference had with the House of Commons, upon the Bill, intituled, "An Act for the taking, examining, and stating, the Public Accompts of the Kingdom."

The Amendments made by this House to the Bill were read; (videlicet,)

1st Amendment, 1 Sk. 15 L. Leave out, ["Robert Bierly Esquire"]; and, instead thereof, insert ["Sir John Houblon, Sir Wm. Scawen, and Francis Eyles Esquire."]

2. Amendment, at the End of the Bill, add Clause marked (A.).

Which being read; the House agreed, not to insist on this Amendment.

Committee to draw Reasons for adhering to the First Amendment.

And ORDERED, That the Lords who were appointed Managers of the said Conference do draw Reasons, to be offered at a Conference, for the Lords insisting on their First Amendment made in the said Bill; and also for their not insisting on the Second Amendment.

Their Lordships, or any Three of them; to meet To-morrow, at Ten of the Clock in the Forenoon, in the Prince's Lodgings, near the House of Peers.

Scottish Papers to be returned to the Secretrary of State.

It is ORDERED, by the Lords Spiritual and Temporal in Parliament assembled, That all the Papers relating to the Scottish Conspiracy, laid before this House by Her Majesty's Command, shall be delivered to Her Majesty's Principal Secretary of State, so soon as the Lords Committees appointed to give Order for the printing them, or any of them, have done with them.

Justices of Peace.

Then, the Order being read, for taking into Consideration the Lists of the several Justices of Peace of this Kingdom, now in Commission; as also those who have been put out since Midsummer 1700:

After Debate thereupon;

Address for the Commissions of the Peace to be reviewed.

The House Resolved,

That it is the Opinion of this House, That no Person that refused to take the Oaths to the late King, is fit to be in the Commission of the Peace under Her present Majesty; and that an humble Address be presented to Her Majesty, "That She will be pleased to order the Commissions of the Peace to be reviewed, and give Direction, that no Person or Persons be continued, or put into the Commission of the Peace, but Men of Quality and Estates, and of known Affection to Her Majesty's Title and Government, and the Protestant Succession, and the Church of England, as they are both established by Law; and that Her Majesty will be pleased to order, that such be restored who are so qualified, and have been turned out without Cause."

ORDERED, That the whole House do attend Her Majesty, with this Address.

House to attend the Queen with it.

ORDERED, by the Lords Spiritual and Temporal in Parliament assembled, That the Duke of Somerset do attend Her Majesty, to know what Time Her Majesty will be pleased to appoint, for this House to attend Her, with the Address agreed to this Day.

Adjourn.

Dominus Custos Magni Sigilli declaravit præsens Parliamentum continuandum esse usque ad et in diem Veneris, tricesimum primum diem instantis Martii, hora duodecima Auroræ, Dominis sic decernentibus.

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