Martis, 27 die Aprilis;Anno 11 Georgii IV ti Regis, 1830.
PRAYERS.
Rye and Limerick County Elections-Petitions considered.
THE hour appointed for taking into consideration the
Petition of De Lacy Evans, Esquire, a LieutenantColonel in His Majesty's Army; and also, the Petition of
John Meryon, Thomas Barry, William Ellenden and James
Blake, claiming to have and having a right to vote for the
Election of Members to serve in Parliament for the Town
and Port of Rye, in the County of Sussex, on behalf of
themselves and others, Inhabitants of the said Town and
Port, claiming to have and having a right to vote in the
Election of Members to serve in Parliament for the said
Town and Port, complaining of an undue Election and
Return for the said Town and Port, being come;
The House proceeded to the appointment of a Select
Committee, to try and determine the merits of the said
Petition, according to the directions of the Act 9 Geo. 4,
"to consolidate and amend the Laws relating to the
Trial of Controverted Elections, or Returns of Members to
serve in Parliament."
The Serjeant at Arms was sent, with the Mace, to the
places adjacent, to require the attendance of the Members
on the business of the House: And being returned;
The House was counted by Mr. Speaker; and one hundred and eighty-four Members being present;
And the Petition of James Hewitt Massy Dawson, of
New Forest, in the County of Tipperary, Esquire, complaining of an undue Election and Return for the County
of Limerick, being also ordered to be taken into consideration on this day;
The several Petitioners and other parties, in both the
said cases, their counsel and agents, were called in.
And the door being locked;
The Order of the day for taking into consideration the
Petition complaining of an undue Election and Return
for Rye, was read.
And the names of the Members were drawn, and read
in the usual manner.
And the whole number of thirty-three names was completed.
Note.-That in the course of drawing the names;
the names of several Members were drawn, who
were excused, as being sixty years of age or upwards; or as having served on Select Committees.
And Lists of the thirty-three names being delivered to
the clerk appointed to attend the Committee on the Rye
Election, the door was opened, and the parties, their
counsel and agents, withdrew.
And the door being again locked;
The Order of the day for taking into consideration the
Petition complaining of an undue Election and Return for
the County of Limerick, was read.
And thereupon the House proceeded to draw by lot,
out of the same glasses, the names remaining therein,
in order to form a second Committee, according to the
directions of the said Act.
And the whole number of thirty-three names was completed.
Note.-That in the course of drawing the names,
the names of several Members were drawn, who
were excused, as being sixty years of age or upwards; or as having served on Select Committees;
and one name was set aside, the Member being
petitioned against.
And Lists of the thirty-three names being delivered to
the Clerk appointed to attend the Committee for the Limerick Election, the door was opened, and the parties, their
counsel and agents, withdrew.
Petitions in favour of Port Glasgow Harbour Bill.
A Petition of the Ship-owners, Merchants and Resident Burgesses, and of the Convener and Members of the
six Incorporated Trades of the royal burgh of Irvine;-
and, of the Merchants and Ship-owners of Saltcoats,-
were presented, and read; taking notice of the Bill for
improving the Harbour of Port Glasgow, constructing a
Wet Dock or Wet Docks adjacent thereto, and for altering
the Road leading from Port Glasgow to Glasgow, near the
said Harbour; and praying, That the same may pass into
a law.
And the said Petitions were ordered to lie upon the Table.
Petitions against Bute (Cardiff) Canal Bill.
A Petition of Richard Blakemore, of Melin Griffiths,
Glamorganshire;-of the Proprietors of the Monmouthshire Canal Navigation;-and, of the Company of Proprietors of the Glamorganshire Canal Navigation and
Freighters using the said Canal,-were presented, and
read; taking notice of the Bill for empowering the Most
honourable John Crichton Stuart, Marquis of Bute and
Earl of Dumfries, to make and maintain a Ship Canal,
to commence at a certain Place called the Eastern Hollows,
near the Mouth of the River Taff, in the County of Glamorgan, and to terminate near the Town of Cardiff, in the
said County, with other Works to communicate therewith;
and praying, That they may be heard by themselves, their
counsel or agents against certain parts thereof.
And the said Petitions were ordered to be referred to
the Committee on the Bill; and that the Petitioners be
heard by themselves, their counsel or agents upon their
Petitions, if they think fit.
Ordered, That counsel be admitted to be heard in favour
of the Bill, against the said Petitions.
New Sarum Poor Bill, committed.
A Bill for better assessing and recovering the Rates for
the Relief of the Poor within the City of New Sarum, and
enlarging the Powers of an Act passed in the tenth year
of the reign of his late Majesty King George the Third,
intituled, "An Act for consolidating the Rates to be made
for the Relief of the Poor of the respective Parishes of
Saint Thomas, Saint Edmund and Saint Martin, in the
City of New Sarum," was read a second time; and committed to Mr. Wyndham, &c.: And they are to meet this
Afternoon in the Speaker's Chamber.
Petition against Little Bolton Improvement Bill.
A Petition of Proprietors of gas-works, and Owners
and Occupiers of meadow and arable lands, within the
township of Little Bolton, in the county palatine of Lancaster, was presented, and read; taking notice of the Bill
for more effectually cleansing, lighting, watching, regulating and improving the Town of Little Bolton, in the
County Palatine of Lancaster; and praying, That they
may be heard by themselves, their counsel or agents
against certain parts thereof.
Ordered, That the said Petition be referred to the Committee on the Bill; and that the Petitioners be heard by
themselves, their counsel or agents upon their Petition, if
they think fit.
Ordered, That counsel be admitted to be heard in favour
of the Bill, against the said Petition.
Rye Election- Committee appointed.
The counsel and agents in the case of the Rye Election
being returned to the bar, the Clerk appointed to attend
the said Committee, delivered in to the House a reduced
List; and the same was called over, and is as follows:
Thomas Peers Williams, Esquire, the Right honourable
Robert John Wilmot Horton, Sir Thomas Dyke Acland,
Baronet, Charles Mackinnon, Esquire, Thomas Gardiner
Bramston, Esquire, Lewis William Buck, Esquire, Lord
Viscount Palmerston, Bethell Walrond, Esquire, Robert
Downie, Esquire, the Honourable Henry King, Charles
Bilcliffe Fyler, Esquire.
And the said eleven Members, being the Select Committee for trying the merits of the Petition complaining of
an undue Election and Return for the Town and Port of
Rye, were sworn by the Clerk at the table, in the usual
manner; and thereupon the counsel and agents withdrew.
Ordered, That the said Committee do meet forthwith,
in one of the Committee Chambers appointed for hearing
the trials of Controverted Elections.
Petition against Kingsbury Episcopi Inclosure Bill.
A Petition of Proprietors of Lands within the parish of
Kingsbury Episcopi, in the county of Somerset, was presented, and read; taking notice of the Bill for inclosing
Lands in the Parish of Kingsbury Episcopi, in the County
of Somerset; and praying, That the same may not pass
into a law.
Ordered, That the said Petition do lie upon the Table.
Petition against North Level Drainage and Navigation Bill.
A Petition of Sir Culling Eardley Smith, Baronet, was
presented, and read; taking notice of the Bill for improving the Drainage of the Lands lying in the North
Level, part of the Great Level of Fens called Bedford
Level, and in Great Portsand, in the Manor of Crowland,
and for providing a Navigation between Clows Cross and
the Nene Outfall Cut; and praying, That he may be heard
by himself, his counsel or agent against certain parts
thereof.
Ordered, That the said Petition be referred to the
Committee on the Bill; and that the Petitioner be heard
by himself, his counsel or agent upon his Petition, if he
think fit.
Ordered, That counsel be admitted to be heard in favour
of the Bill, against the said Petition.
Hull and Hedon Road Bill, committed.
Ordered, That the Order of the day, for the second
reading of the Bill for making and maintaining a new
Turnpike Road from the Town of Kingston-upon-Hull,
in the County of the said Town, to Hedon, in the County
of York, be now read; and the same being read;
A Motion was made, and the Question being proposed,
That the Bill be now read a second time;
The Amendments following were proposed to be made
to the Question; viz. to leave out the word "now," and
at the end of the Question to add the words "upon this
"day six months."
And the Question being put, That the word "now"
stand part of the Question; it was resolved in the Affirmative.
Then the main Question being put;
Ordered, That the Bill be now read a second time:-
The Bill was accordingly read a second time; and committed to Mr. William Duncombe, &c.: And they are to
meet this Afternoon, in the Speaker's Chamber.
Limerick County Election- Committee appointed.
The counsel and agents in the case of the Limerick
County Election being returned to the bar, the Clerk
appointed to attend the said Committee, delivered in to
the House a reduced List; and the same was called over,
and is as follows;
George Hay Dawkins Pennant, Esquire, Nicholas William Ridley Colborne, Esquire, Sir Codrington Edmund
Carrington, Knight, Sir Arthur Chichester, Baronet, Gibbs
Crawford Antrobus, Esquire, John Hungerford Penruddocke, Esquire, George Burrard, Esquire, James Wemyss,
Esquire, Richard Edensor Heathcote, Esquire, Alexander
Saunderson, Esquire, Masterton Ure, Esquire.
And the said eleven Members, being the Select Committee for trying the merits of the Petition complaining
of an undue Election and Return for the County of Limerick, were sworn by the Clerk at the table, in the
usual manner; and thereupon the counsel and agents
withdrew.
Ordered, That the said Committee do meet forthwith,
in one of the Committee Chambers appointed for hearing
the trials of Controverted Elections.
Wendover Road Bill, passed.
An ingrossed Bill for more effectually repairing and
improving the Road from Wendover to the Town of Buckingham, in the County of Buckingham, was read the third
time.
Resolved, That the Bill do pass.
Ordered, That Mr. Holmes do carry the Bill to the
Lords, and desire their concurrence.
Almondbury Inclosure Petition, reported.
Sir Robert Wilson reported from the Committee on the
Petition of Proprietors of estates in the manor of Meltham,
in the parish of Almondbury, in the west riding of the
county of York; That they had examined the matter
thereof; and the Report was brought up, and read.
Ordered, That leave be given to bring in a Bill to
amend an Act of his late Majesty, for inclosing Lands in
the Manor of Meltham, in the Parish of Almondbury, in
the West Riding of the County of York: And that Sir
Robert Wilson, Lord Viscount Milton and Mr. Marshall
do prepare, and bring it in: And that leave be given to
present the Bill on or before Tuesday next.
Hagley Inclosure Bill, passed.
An ingrossed Bill for inclosing certain Lands in the
Parish of Hagley, in the County of Worcester, was read
the third time.
Resolved, That the Bill do pass.
Ordered, That Mr. Lygon do carry the Bill to the Lords,
and desire their concurrence.
Petition against Sheffield Waterworks Bill.
A Petition of Dame Catherine Burgoyne, of Grosvenorplace, in the county of Middlesex, widow, was presented,
and read; taking notice of the Bill for better supplying
with Water the Town and Parish of Sheffield, in the
County of York; and praying, That she may be heard by
herself, her counsel or agent against certain parts thereof.
Ordered, That the said Petition be referred to the Committee on the Bill; and that the Petitioner be heard by
herself, her counsel or agent upon her Petition, if she
think fit.
Ordered, That counsel be admitted to be heard in
favour of the Bill, against the said Petition.
Petitions against Sale of Beer Bill.
A Petition of Licensed Victuallers of Bridgwater;-of
Licensed Victuallers resident in the city of Chichester;-
of Proprietors and Occupiers of public-houses in the city
of Winchester and its vicinity;-of Licensed Victuallers
of the town and neighbourhood of Sheffield;-and, of the
Proprietors and Occupiers of hotels, inns and victualling
houses at Leamington Priors,-were presented, and read;
taking notice of the Bill to permit the general Sale of Beer
by Retail in England; and praying, That the same may
not pass into a law as it now stands.
And the said Petitions were ordered to lie upon the
Table; and to be printed.
Petitions for mitigation of Punishment for Forgery.
A Petition of Magistrates, Clergy, Bankers, Merchants,
Tradesmen and other Inhabitants of Sudbury;-of Inhabitants of Luton;-of the Minister and certain of the Congregation assembling for divine worship in York-street
Chapel, Walworth;-of the Mayor, Magistrates and other
Inhabitants of Poole;-of the Inhabitants of the city of Bath;
-of the city of York;-of Householders and Inhabitants
of the town and neighbourhood of Reigate;-of the Clergy,
Gentry and other Inhabitants of Madeley;-and, of the
Mayor, Burgesses and Inhabitants of Maidenhead,-were
presented, and read; praying, That the whole of the Statutes which inflict death for Forgery may be repealed,
and such other punishments substituted as may, in the
judgment of the House, appear more beneficial to the community, and bring certain just punishment on offenders.
And the said Petitions were ordered to lie upon the
Table; and, except the first, to be printed.
Petitions against Administration of Justice Bill.
A Petition of the Freeholders and other Inhabitants of
the hundred of Castlemartin, in the county of Pembroke;
-of the Gentlemen of the Grand Jury, and Magistrates of
the county of Cardigan, at the Great Sessions for the said
county assembled;-of Grand Jurors for the county of
Pembroke, assembled at the Spring Great Sessions for that
county;-of the Mayor, Common Councilmen, Burgesses
and Inhabitants of Cardigan;-of Inhabitants of the
county of Carmarthen;-of Gentlemen, Clergy, Freeholders and Inhabitants of the county of Denbigh;-and,
of Burgesses and other Inhabitants of Pembroke,-of the
majority of the Grand Jury of the county of Denbigh;
-and, of the Freeholders and Inhabitants of the county
of Carnarvon,-were presented, and read; taking notice
of the Bill for the more effectual Administration of Justice
in England and Wales, by which it is proposed to deprive
the inhabitants of the Principality of Wales of the system
of judicature which they have enjoyed for the three last
centuries, possessing in itself many advantages for which
no equivalent will be afforded by the proposed assimilation of the judicature of Wales to that of England; and
praying, That the same may not pass into a law.
And the said Petitions were ordered to lie upon the
Table; and to be printed.
Petition against Renewal of East India Charter.
A Petition of the Master, Wardens and Commonalty of
Merchant Venturers of the city of Bristol, was presented,
and read; praying, That all monopoly of the trade of the
United Kingdom with India, the Indian Archipelago and
China, may be abolished, and that British subjects may
be placed in a situation, in respect to their intercourse
with those countries, at least upon a footing of equality
with the subjects of all other kingdoms and states.
Ordered, That the said Petition do lie upon the Table;
and be printed.
Leave of Absence.
Ordered, That Sir Christopher Cole have leave of absence for a fortnight, on urgent private business.
Petition against Insolvent Debtors Bill.
A Petition of Merchants, Manufacturers, Tradesmen
and Inhabitants of Sheffield, was presented, and read;
taking notice of the Bill to continue and amend the Laws
for Relief of Insolvent Debtors in England; and praying,
That the same may not pass into a law.
Ordered, That the said Petition do lie upon the Table;
and be printed.
Australian Company Petition.
A Petition of the Australian Agricultural Company,
was presented, and read; reciting an Act of the fifth year
of the reign of His present Majesty, "for granting certain
powers and authorities to a Company to be incorporated
by charter, to be called The Australian Agricultural Company for the cultivation and improvement of waste lands
in the colony of New South Wales, and for other purposes
relating thereto;" and setting forth, That the Petitioners
were incorporated by Royal Charter under the Great Seal
of the United Kingdom of Great Britain and Ireland,
bearing date on or about the 1st day of November, in the
fifth year of the reign of His present Majesty; and that
some of the powers, authorities and provisions in the said
Act contained, particularly as regards the number of
directors of the said Company, the evidence of the possession of shares or stock in the said Company, and the
mode of deciding questions moved at the meetings of the
said Company, require amendment; and praying, That
leave may be given to bring in a Bill for amending the
said Act made in the fifth year of His present Majesty,
intituled, "An Act for granting certain Powers and Authorities to a Company to be incorporated by Charter, to
be called The Australian Agricultural Company, for the
Cultivation and Improvement of Waste Lands in the Colony of New South Wales, and for other purposes relating
thereto;" or that the House would be pleased to grant
the Petitioners such further relief as to them may seem
meet.
Ordered, That leave be given to bring in a Bill accordingly: And that Mr. Hume and Mr. John Smith do
prepare, and bring it in.
Petitions against Watching, &c. Parishes Bill.
A Petition of the Commissioners for paving, pitching,
cleansing and lighting the city of Bristol and liberties
thereof;-and, of the Commissioners for carrying into
execution certain Acts for forming, paving, cleansing,
lighting, watching, watering, and otherwise improving
and keeping in repair the streets, squares and other public
passages and places upon certain plots of ground in the
parish of Saint Pancras, in the county of Middlesex, belonging to the Right honourable Ann Dowager Baroness
Southampton, and other persons, were presented, and read;
taking notice of the Bill to make Provision for the lighting, watching, cleansing and paving of Parishes in England
and Wales; and praying, That they may be heard by
themselves, their counsel or agents against certain parts
thereof.
And the said Petitions were ordered to be referred to
the Committee on the Bill; and that the Petitioners be
heard by themselves, their counsel or agents upon their
Petitions, if they think fit.
Ordered, That counsel be admitted to be heard in favour of the Bill, against the said Petitions.
A Petition of Commissioners for paving, lighting,
cleansing and watering the south-western district of Saint
Pancras, was also presented, and read; taking notice of
the said Bill; and praying, That the same may not pass
into a law as it now stands.
Ordered, That the said Petition be referred to the
Committee on the Bill.
Petition against Duty on Corn Spirits.
A Petition of Landholders and Farmers frequenting
Worcester and other Markets, in the county of Worcester,
was presented, and read; setting forth, That the Petitioners are deeply interested in the consumption of homegrown Corn, a considerable portion of which is purchased
by the distillers of the United Kingdom; that the Petitioners have heard, with considerable dismay, that it is
the intention of the Government to impose an additional
duty on Corn Spirits for consumption in England, which,
as the Petitioners humbly submit, must have the effect of
superseding the use of British Spirits, and consequently
the consumption of British Corn in the home distillery,
unless a corresponding duty is imposed upon Rum; and
praying, That a duty, corresponding with the proposed
increase of duty on Corn Spirits, may be at the same time
imposed upon Rum.
Ordered, That the said Petition do lie upon the Table;
and be printed.
Petition for rerepeal of certain Clauses in Vagrant Act.
A Petition of Christopher S. Smith, Chairman of a
Meeting of His Majesty's Justices of the Peace for the
county of Worcester, assembled at the Easter Quarter Sessions 1830, was presented, and read; setting forth, That
the county of Worcester is subject to a very heavy burthen
by the operation of the Vagrant Laws, by which magistrates in any part of England are empowered to pass
Vagrants to Ireland and Scotland, as well as Jersey and
Guernsey, at the expense of the counties through which
the roads may lie; that this expense has been rapidly
increasing for some years, and is become grievously burthensome to the county rates; that the whole charge upon
the county of Worcester, for the year 1828, for the passage
of these Vagrants, was 605l. and the expenditure has
since increased; that there are the best grounds for
believing that the abuses and impositions, which were a
chief cause of the repeal of the General English Vagrant
Act, prevail at least to the same extent, with respect to
these cases, which were excepted from that repeal; the
same persons are known to be passed so frequently by
the same road as to become familiar to the pass-masters,
more especially between Bristol and Liverpool and Bristol
and Holyhead; it is indeed become almost a trade, by
which men subsist; when landed in Ireland, instead of
proceeding to their homes, they return by the first conveyance to England, and find their way again to this
country, where they well know that they will be subject
to very little investigation in obtaining a fresh pass, thus
procuring a comfortable subsistence in idleness for a long
portion of their time at the public expense; and with
respect to the Jersey and Guernsey Vagrants, the numbers
alone are sufficient proof that great imposition is practised, either by the means above detailed, or by persons
with the like views falsely swearing that they are connected with these islands; that the counties through
which these Vagrants are passed, though subject to
the expense, have no check or control whatever over
these proceedings, it being by law imperative upon the
magistrates in those counties to receive and forward all
such persons as shall be brought to them by the proper
authorities; while it is to be remembered that the
magistrates who originally grant the passes, being only
anxious to remove the burthen of maintaining such persons from their own districts, have no interest whatever in
protecting the intermediate counties from imposition;
that the Petitioner begs further to represent that the experience which has been had for some years of the benefit
arising from the repeal of the general power of passing
Vagrants in England, unaccompanied, as far as they
know, by any material inconvenience, justifies the belief
that the like advantages would follow from the repeal of
these excepted cases; that the practice of passing Vagrants to Ireland in particular, holds out a great, direct
and most impolitic premium to the influx of Irish peasantry, so much and so justly complained of, and does in
truth afford an invitation to emigrate to England, and
thus adding to the burthen of the counties through which
they are passed; the Petitioner therefore humbly prays
the House for a repeal of these excepted clauses, and that
Irish and other Vagrants may be put upon the same footing with those from distant parts of England, who are
now left to the ordinary operation of the Laws of Settlement; in case, however, the present interest or accommodation of the metropolis should be thought to require a
continuance of this power of transferring so large a population every year to Ireland, the Petitioner humbly represents that the burthen of so doing ought not to be cast
partially upon the counties that happen to be in the road
of conveyance; that the measure being designed for the
relief of London and other large towns, the expense should
be sustained by those places from whence they are removed, or, if it be considered an object of public policy,
that it should be made a charge upon the public revenue.
Ordered, That the said Petition do lie upon the Table;
and be printed.
Account respecting First Fruits (Ireland), ordered.
Ordered, That there be laid before this House, an
Account of any sum of money advanced by the Commissioners of First Fruits, from the revenue intrusted to their
care, for the purchase, or in diminution, of the rent reserved on Glebe Land, procured for the parish of Ballymaglassan, in the diocese of Meath, in Ireland, about the
year 1818; and also, of any sums of money issued from
the said Funds, by way of gift or loan, for the erection of
a Glebe House in the said parish at the same time; specifying the terms on which such Glebe Land was acquired,
and, if by lease, the duration of the lease; together with
a statement whether said Glebe Land and House are now
in the possession of the present incumbent of said parish,
or of what other person.
Copies of Treasury Minutes, to be printed. No. 319.
Ordered, That the Copies of Treasury Minutes on the
subject of Compensation to certain Collectors of Customs
for losses sustained by them, which were yesterday presented to the House, be printed.
Petition for continuance of Fishery Bounties.
A Petition of the Fish-curers of the royal burgh of
Wick and Pulteney-town, was presented, and read; praying the House to continue the Fishery Board under its present excellent rules and regulations, with a Bounty of only
2s. per barrel on crown-brand herrings, and to place all
engaged in the trade throughout the United Kingdom,
upon an equal footing, both in respect to the regulations
to be observed and the rate of Bounty to be obtained on
the due observation of those regulations which ought to
be held alike binding on all who shall be entitled to claim
the said Bounty.
Ordered, That the said Petition do lie upon the Table;
and be printed.
Answer to Address.
Mr. Secretary Peel reported to the House, That their
Address of yesterday (that His Majesty would be graciously pleased to give directions, that the Paper therein
mentioned might be laid before this House) had been presented to His Majesty; and that His Majesty had commanded him to acquaint this House, That He will give
directions accordingly.
Returns, &c. presented: Bankruptcy Commissioners. No. 309.
Mr. William Peel presented to the House, pursuant to
their Addresses to His Majesty,-A Return to an Address
to His Majesty, dated the 15th day of March last, for a
Return of the Names of the Commissioners belonging to
the London Bankrupt Lists; stating, 1. The Dates of their
Appointment; 2. Whether they are Barristers or Solicitors; 3. If Barristers, whether they practise as such, and
in what Courts, and whether they go the Circuit; 4.
What other office connected with Bankruptcy any such
Commissioner holds, or is entitled to, in reversion, with the
Date of Appointment to any such Office, or of any Gift in
reversion of any such Office; 5. What other legal Office or
Appointment any such Commissioner holds, or has held,
while a Commissioner, with the Date of Appointment.
Law Business (Scotland.) No. 310.
A Copy of the Table of Fees of Conveyancing and of
General Law Business adopted by the Society of Writers
to the Signet in Scotland.
Courts of Justice (Ireland.) No. 311.
Copy of the Nineteenth Report of the Commissioners
appointed to inquire into the Duties, Salaries and Emoluments of the Officers, Clerks and Ministers of Justice in
all Temporal and Ecclesiastical Courts in Ireland.
Ordered, That the said Papers do lie upon the Table;
and be printed.
Accounts to be printed. Nos. 312, 313, 314, 315, 316, 317.
Ordered, That the Accounts and Papers relative to
Contracts for Supplies for the Army, Sugar, Coffee,
Grain, the Report of Trustees for the Encouragement of
Manufactures in Scotland, and the Return of Exchequer
Information, which were yesterday presented to the
House, be printed.
Returns, &c. presented: South American States. No. 318.
Mr. William Peel presented to the House, pursuant to
their Addresses to His Majesty,-Return to an Address
to His Majesty, dated the 9th day of March last, for an
Account of the items of Expenditure, including charges
for Conveyance out and home, as well as Outfit, in the
Diplomatic and Consular Establishments in the New
States of America; showing also the time of Residence
of the several Public Servants for whom Salaries have
been paid since the 1st of January 1825, so far as the
same can be made out at the Foreign Office.
Pauper Lunatics.
A summary Abstract from each County Riding (or Division of the County of Lincoln) in England and Wales,
of the Returns made to the respective Clerks of the Peace,
under the provisions of 9 Geo. 4, c. 40, s. 36; distinguishing the sexes of the Paupers so returned, and specifying
the several numbers of Lunatics and Idiots, of the dangerous and of the harmless, and of those confined in regular Asylums for the Insane, and of those not confined;
and also, the highest, lowest and average rate; as also,
the total sum paid in each County for the maintenance of
the Insane Paupers; stating further, what Parishes in
each County have not complied with the provisions of
the above-mentioned section of 9 Geo. 4, c. 40, and the
reasons, if any be known, to the Clerk of the Peace for
such neglect;-and, a similar Return from each Liberty,
County of a City, County of a Town, Cinque Port or
Town Corporate.
Ordered, That the said Papers do lie upon the Table;
and that the Return be printed.
Petition respecting Distribution of Church Property.
A Petition of Lay Members of the United Church of
England and Ireland, Inhabitants of the County and city
of Cork, was presented, and read; setting forth, That the
Petitioners regard the United Church of England and
Ireland as the chosen instrument of Almighty God to
preserve amongst us the light of Christian truth, and to
uphold and foster the civil and religious liberties of
the nation; they are firmly convinced of the scriptural
purity of her doctrines and of the excellence of her episcopal form of government, and they desire, by every means
in their power, to support her privileges, and to extend
her influence; that, although the Petitioners are thus
fully sensible of the blessing which the Established
Church has been to the country, they yet deeply deplore that evils arise from the present distribution of
her revenues, and that abuses exist in the administration of her secular affairs; and the Petitioners are
convinced, that a period has arrived when the security
of the Church requires the reformation of defects which
operate so strongly to impede her influence in the promotion of religion, to weaken her hold upon the affections
of the people, and to endanger her existence as a national
establishment; the Petitioners would humbly call the
attention of the House, in the first place, to the evils
arising from the present distribution of Church property;
they conceive that the revenues of a national religious
establishment should be applied to providing (as far as
possible) for the suitable maintenance of all classes of
the Clergy, and for the religious instruction of the people,
and yet, by the present division of the property of the
Church, some of the dignitaries are possessed of revenues
far beyond what the most liberal estimate could deem
necessary, while others of the Clergy (to whom frequently
the most important cures are intrusted) receive pittances
wholly insufficient for their support, and no adequate
provision is made for supplying the religious wants of the
increased population of the country; while therefore the
Petitioners fully admit that the diversity of orders in an
Episcopal form of Church government requires a diversity
of incomes, and while they pray for the preservation of
all vested rights of property, they at the same time humbly submit, that at the termination of existing interests,
funds might be derived from the superabundance of the
wealthier preferments, which would supply the necessities
of the curates and poorer beneficed Clergy, and would
provide for the support of additional ministers of the
Established Church, where the growth of population and
other causes render them necessary; the want of a sufficient number of churches to accommodate the increase of
inhabitants in populous districts is also a subject to which
the Petitioners would humbly pray the consideration of
the House; it appears to them to be absolutely necessary
that some means should be provided for the erection
and endowment of new churches to supply the wants
of the country more adequately than is effected by
the provisions for this purpose already in existence;
of the abuses which exist in the administration of the
secular affairs of the Church, the first to which they
would humbly call the attention of the House, is the custom of presenting the same incumbent to a plurality of
benefices having cure of souls, frequently in different dioceses, and in parts of the country remote from each other;
this practice, which is unfortunately so prevalent, the
Petitioners conceive to be fraught with the most injurious
consequences to religion, and to the Established Church;
it involves the necessity of non-residence; it is an union
of the most indefensible description, and it is an evident
misapplication of Church property, as it accumulates
upon an individual what was originally intended to afford
a competence to several; and the Petitioners humbly submit that, if a more equitable distribution of Church property should take place which would provide for the
increase of the poorer beneficed Clergy, patrons would no
longer be enabled to urge the plea of necessity, the only
ground on which the custom of Pluralities ever has been
or can be supported; the abuse of non-residence is, however, not confined to parishes held in plurality; the Petitioners complain that, either from a deficiency in the laws
intended to enforce residence, or from a laxity of Church
discipline, or from a combination of both these causes,
many of the beneficed Clergy absent themselves either
wholly or partially from their cures without any sufficient
reason; the bonds of affection which intercourse would
produce between the pastor and his flock, are thus rent
asunder, the spiritual concerns of the people are neglected, the influence of the Established Church declines,
and facilities are afforded for the encroachment of popery
and dissent; even if the sacred obligation of religion did
not operate, the residence of a beneficed Clergyman within
his parish is imperatively demanded on the plain principle of common honesty; the next subject to which the
Petitioners would advert is the unions which exist of
parishes sufficient in value to support separate Clergymen, and requiring them from their extent and population; the Petitioners humbly submit, that provision should
be made for the dissolution of unions of this nature at the
earliest opportunity; they also feel it to be their duty to
address the House on a subject of peculiar delicacy, which
they approach with considerable delicacy, they advert to
the almost insurmountable expenses and delays which
attend the deprivation of immoral Clergymen of their benefices; to the spiritual well-being of a Church, nothing
is more absolutely essential than that her Rulers should
possess a power of easily ejecting corrupt and profligate Ministers; and yet such difficulties attend the prosecution of
suits for deprivation, that abandoned characters have been
sometimes found, in defiance of public odium and private
exertion, continuing to receive the revenues of a Church
which they injure by the disgrace and scandal attending
their conduct; the Petitioners therefore humbly pray, that
the Episcopal powers may be increased and supported by
such legal enactments as will enable the Bishops to effect
this most desirable object; these various evils and abuses,
the Petitioners humbly submit, require an immediate
remedy, convinced that their existence has mainly retarded
the progress of the glorious truths of the Reformation,
has confirmed and increased dissent from our National
Church, and furnishes to the enemies of the Establishment a powerful engine, with which they hope to effect
its overthrow; in conclusion, the Petitioners do most
distinctly acknowledge the right of the Clergy, as a body,
to their property, and the necessity of guarding vested
interests; they earnestly pray that the possessions of the
Established Church be preserved undiminished, being
convinced that they are by no means superabundant, if
more equitably distributed, and that an attempt to alienate
any part of them to secular purposes would violate the
first principles of justice, endanger all property, and lead
to revolution and national ruin; the Petitioners do therefore humbly pray the House speedily to take into consideration the entire state of the Establishment of the
united Church of England and Ireland, and of the Ecclesiastical Law connected therewith, with a view to the
correction of the abuses which exist in the administration
of her secular affairs, more especially those of which the
Petitioners have herein humbly complained, and to the
adoption of such measures in the distribution of her property as will insure the suitable maintenance of all classes
of the Clergy, and provide for the religious instruction of
the great body of the people.
Ordered, That the said Petition do lie upon the Table;
and be printed.
Motion respecting Vestries Regulation (Ireland.)
The House was moved, That the Act 7 Geo. 4, c. 72,
to consolidate and amend the Laws which regulate the
Levy and Application of Church Rates and Parish Cesses,
and the Election of Churchwardens and the Maintenance
of Parish Clerks, in Ireland, might be read; and the
same being read;
A Motion was made, and the Question being put,
That leave be given to bring in a Bill to alter and amend
the said Act;
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| Tellers for the Yeas, |
Mr. O'Connell,
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47.
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| Mr. Hume:
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| Tellers for the Noes,
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Mr. Frankland Lewis,
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177.
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| Sir George Hill:
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So it passed in the Negative.
Bankrupts Act Amendment Bill, ordered.
The House was moved, That the Act 6 Geo. 4, c. 16,
to amend the Laws relating to Bankrupts, might be read;
and the same being read;
Ordered, That leave be given to bring in a Bill to supply
an omission in the said Act: And that Mr. Robert Grant
and Mr. Attorney General do prepare, and bring it in.
Embankments (Ireland) Bill, ordered.
Ordered, That leave be given to bring in a Bill for
making and preserving Embankments on the sides of
Rivers in Ireland: And that Mr. Spring Rice and Sir
John Newport do prepare, and bring it in.
Rights of Executors Bill, ordered.
Ordered, That leave be given to bring in a Bill for
making better provision for the disposal of the undisposedof Residues of the Effects of Testators: And that Mr. Spring
Rice and Dr. Lushington do prepare, and bring it in.
Richmond Lunatic Asylum Bill, ordered.
Ordered, That leave be given to bring in a Bill for appropriating the Richmond Lunatic Asylum in Dublin to
the purposes of a District Lunatic Asylum: And that
Lord Francis Leveson Gower and Mr. Doherty do prepare, and bring it in.
Dublin Sessions Bill, ordered.
Ordered, That leave be given to bring in a Bill to facilitate the Administration of Justice in the Court of
Quarter Sessions in the City of Dublin: And that Lord
Francis Leveson Gower and Mr. Doherty do prepare, and
bring it in.
Administration of Justice Bill, committed.
A Motion was made, and the Question being proposed,
That the Order of the day, for the second reading of the
Bill for the more effectual Administration of Justice in
England and Wales, be now read;
A Motion was made, and the Question was proposed,
That the House do now adjourn:-And the said Motion
was, with leave of the House, withdrawn.
Then the main Question being put;
Ordered, That the said Order of the day be now read;
and the same being read;
And the House having continued to sit till after twelve
of the clock on Wednesday morning;