Die Lunæ, 3 Maii 1830.
DOMINI tam Spirituales quam Temporales præsentes
fuerunt:
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Dux CUMBERLAND. |
Archiep. Cantuar.
Epus. Bristol.
Epus. Carliol.
Epus. Roffen.
Epus. Rapoten.
Ds. De Clifford.
Ds. Willoughby de Eresby.
Ds. Dacre.
Ds. Clifton.
Ds. Teynham.
Ds. Stafford.
Ds. Gower.
Ds. Colville of Culross.
Ds. Hay.
Ds. King.
Ds. Monson.
Ds. Holland.
Ds. Vernon.
Ds. Ducie.
Ds. Montagu.
Ds. Dundas.
Ds. Dawnay.
Ds. Calthorpe.
Ds. Rolle.
Ds. Wellesley.
Ds. Bolton.
Ds. Ribblesdale.
Ds. Fitz Gibbon.
Ds. Carbery.
Ds. Dufferin & Claneboye.
Ds. Dunalley.
Ds. Redesdale.
Ds. Ellenborough.
Ds. Arden.
Ds. Mont Eagle.
Ds. Manners.
Ds. Hill.
Ds. Meldrum.
Ds. Melbourne.
Ds. Churchill.
Ds. Prudhoe.
Ds. Forester.
Ds. Bexley.
Ds. Penshurst.
Ds. Somerhill.
Ds. Wharncliffe.
Ds. Clanwilliam.
Ds. Durham. |
Ds. Lyndhurst, Cancellarius.
Comes Bathurst, Præses.
Comes Rosslyn, C. P. S.
Dux Norfolk, Marescallus.
Dux Richmond.
Dux Beaufort.
Dux Leeds.
Dux Devonshire.
Dux Rutland.
Dux Wellington.
March. Salisbury.
March. Bute.
March. Camden.
March. Cleveland.
Comes Westmorland.
Comes Winchilsea & Nottingham.
Comes Chesterfield.
Comes Shaftesbury.
Comes Albemarle.
Comes Jersey.
Comes Rosebery.
Comes Ferrers.
Comes Tankerville.
Comes Cowper.
Comes Stanhope.
Comes Hardwicke.
Comes De Lawarr.
Comes Hillsborough.
Comes Carnarvon.
Comes Malmesbury.
Comes Chichester.
Comes Limerick.
Comes Charleville.
Comes Grey.
Comes Harrowby.
Comes Harewood.
Comes Beauchamp.
Comes Eldon.
Comes Falmouth.
Comes Howe.
Vicecom. Melville.
Vicecom. Lorton.
Vicecom. Gordon. |
PRAYERS.
Munro & Rose v. Drummond et al.
After hearing Counsel, in Part, in the Cause wherein
Mrs. Catharine Munro and Hugh Rose her Husband are
Appellants, and Andrew Berkeley Drummond Esquire,
and others, are Respondents:
It is Ordered, That the further Hearing of the said
Cause be put off to Wednesday next.
Sir J. Montgomery et al. v. M. of Queensberry, & Selkrig.
Ordered, That the Hearing of the Cause wherein Sir
James Montgomery Baronet, and others, are Appellants,
and Charles Marquess of Queensberry and Charles Selkrig
are Respondents, which stands appointed for this Day,
be put off to Wednesday next.
Mullins et al. v. Townsend.
Ordered, That the Hearing of the Cause wherein The
Honorable Edward Mullins, and others, are Appellants,
and John Townsend Esquire is Respondent, which stands
appointed for this Day, be put off to Wednesday next.
Bills passed by Commission.
The Lord Chancellor acquainted the House, "That
His Majesty had been pleased to issue a Commission
to several Lords therein named, for declaring His
Royal Assent to several Acts agreed upon by both
Houses of Parliament."
The House was adjourned during Pleasure.
The House was resumed.
Then Three of the Lords Commissioners, being in their
Robes, and seated on a Form placed between the Throne
and the Woolsack, The Lord Chancellor in the Middle,
with The Lord Archbishop of Canterbury on his Right
Hand, and The Earl of Shaftesbury on his Left; commanded the Officiating Yeoman Usher of the Black Rod
to signify to the Commons, "The Lords Commissioners
desire their immediate Attendance in this House, to
hear the Commission read."
Who being come, with their Speaker;
The Lord Chancellor said,
"My Lords, and Gentlemen of the House of Commons,
"His Majesty, not thinking fit to be personally present
here at this Time, has been pleased to cause a Commission to be issued under the Great Seal, and thereby
given His Royal Assent to divers Acts which have been
agreed upon by both Houses of Parliament, the Titles
whereof are particularly mentioned; and by the said
Commission hath commanded us to declare and notify
His Royal Assent to the said several Acts, in the
Presence of you the Lords and Commons assembled
for that Purpose: Which Commission you will now
hear read."
Then the said Commission was read by the Clerk, as
follows; (viz
t.)
"GEORGE R."
"GEORGE the Fourth, by the Grace of God, of the
United Kingdom of Great Britain and Ireland, King,
Defender of the Faith; To Our right trusty and right
well-beloved the Lords Spiritual and Temporal, and to
Our trusty and well-beloved the Knights, Citizens and
Burgesses, and the Commissioners for Shires and Burghs
of the House of Commons, in this present Parliament
assembled, Greeting: Whereas in Our said Parliament
divers and sundry Acts have been agreed and accorded
on by you Our loving Subjects, the Lords Spiritual and
Temporal, and the Commons, in this Our present
Parliament assembled, and endorsed by you as hath
been accustomed, the Titles and Names of which Acts
hereafter do particularly ensue; (that is to say,)
"An Act for transferring certain Annuities of Four
Pounds per Centum per Annum into Annuities of Three
Pounds and Ten Shillings or Five Pounds per Centum
per Annum:" "An Act for removing the Market at
present held for the Sale of Hay and Straw from the
Haymarket; and for establishing Markets for the Sale
of Hay, Straw and other Articles in York Square,
Clarence Gardens and Cumberland Market, in the Parish
of Saint Pancras, in the County of Middlesex:" "An
Act for relieving, in certain Cases, Vessels entering or
sailing from the Port of Berwick-upon-Tweed from the
Duties leviable under Two Acts passed in the Fortysixth and Fifty-fourth Years of His late Majesty's Reign,
relating to the Northern Lighthouses:" "An Act for
incorporating the Dundee Gas Light Company, and for
the better lighting the Town of Dundee by Gas:" "An
Act for more effectually repairing the Road from
Wootton Bassett, in the County of Wilts, to the TwoMile Stone, in the Turnpike Road leading from Swindon
to Marlborough, in the said County:" "An Act for
maintaining the Road from Haverhill, in the County
of Suffolk, to Redcross, in the Parish of Great Shelford,
in the County of Cambridge:" "An Act for making a
Turnpike Road from the Bridge over the River Bure
at Great Yarmouth to Acle, (with certain Branches
therefrom,) all in the County of Norfolk:" "An Act
for inclosing Lands in the Parish of Wistow, in the
County of Huntingdon, and for extinguishing the
Tithes in the said Parish:" "An Act for inclosing
Lands in the Tithings of Arle and Arlestone otherwise
Allstone, in the Parish of Cheltenham, in the County of
Gloucester, and for discharging from Tithes Lands in
the said Tithings:" "An Act for inclosing Lands in the
Parishes of Stanley Saint Leonard's otherwise Leonard
Stanley, and Eastington, or one of them, in the County
of Gloucester, and for discharging from Tithes Lands in
the said Parish of Stanley Saint Leonard's otherwise
Leonard Stanley:" "An Act to dissolve the Marriage
of Joseph Salisbury Muskett Esquire with Mary Muskett
his now Wife, and to enable him to marry again; and
for other Purposes." And albeit the said Acts by
you Our said Subjects, the Lords and Commons in
this Our present Parliament assembled, are fully
agreed and consented unto, yet nevertheless the same
are not of Force and Effect in the Law without Our
Royal Assent given and put to the said Acts; And for
as much as for divers Causes and Considerations We
cannot conveniently at this Time be present in Our
Royal Person in the Higher House of Our said Parliament, being the accustomed Place for giving Our
Royal Assent to such Acts as have been agreed upon
by you Our said Subjects, the Lords and Commons,
We have therefore caused these Our Letters Patent to
be made, and have signed the same, and by the same
do give and put Our Royal Assent to the said Acts,
and to all Articles, Clauses and Provisions therein
contained, and have fully agreed and assented to the
said Acts; Willing that the said Acts, and every Article,
Clause, Sentence and Provision therein contained,
from henceforth shall be of the same Strength, Force
and Effect, as if We had been personally present in
the said Higher House, and had openly and publicly,
in the Presence of you all, assented to the same: And
We do by these Presents declare and notify the same
Our Royal Assent, as well to you the Lords Spiritual
and Temporal, and Commons aforesaid, as to all others
whom it may concern; Commanding also by these
Presents Our well-beloved and faithful Councillor John
Singleton Lord Lyndhurst, Our Chancellor of that
Part of Our United Kingdom of Great Britain and
Ireland called Great Britain, to seal these Our Letters
Patent with Our Great Seal of Our United Kingdom
of Great Britain and Ireland; and also commanding
Our most dear Brothers and faithful Councillors
William Duke of Clarence, Ernest Duke of Cumberland,
Augustus Duke of Sussex, Adolphus Duke of Cambridge;
Our most dear Cousin and faithful Councillor William
Frederick Duke of Gloucester; The Most Reverend
Father in God and Our faithful Councillor William
Archbishop of Canterbury, Primate and Metropolitan of
all England; Our well-beloved and faithful Councillor
John Singleton Lord Lyndhurst, Chancellor of that Part
of Our United Kingdom of Great Britain and Ireland
called Great Britain; Our most dear Cousins and
Councillors Henry Earl Bathurst, President of Our
Council; James Earl of Rosslyn, Keeper of Our Privy
Seal; James Duke of Montrose, Chamberlain of Our
Household; George William Frederick Duke of Leeds,
Master of Our Horse; William Duke of Devonshire,
William Henry Duke of Portland, Arthur Duke of
Wellington, Henry Marquess Conyngham, Steward of
Our Household; Charles Marquess of Winchester,
Groom of Our Stole; Henry Marquess of Lansdowne,
Richard Marquess Wellesley, John Jeffreys Marquess
Camden, Henry William Marquess of Anglesey, John
Earl of Westmorland, George Earl of Carlisle, Cropley
Ashley Earl of Shaftesbury, George Earl of Aberdeen,
One of Our Principal Secretaries of State; William Earl
Fitzwilliam, George John Earl Spencer, John Earl of
Chatham, John Earl of Eldon, John William Earl of
Dudley, Robert Viscount Melville, Henry Viscount
Sidmouth, Frederick John Viscount Goderich; Our
well-beloved and faithful Councillors Henry Richard
Lord Holland, William Wyndham Lord Grenville,
Edward Lord Ellenborough, Nicholas Lord Bexley and
Charles Lord Tenterden, or any Three or more of them,
to declare and notify this Our Royal Assent in Our
Absence in the said Higher House, in the Presence
of you, the said Lords and Commons of Our Parliament, there to be assembled for that Purpose; and
the Clerk of Our Parliaments to endorse the said Acts
with such Terms and Words, in Our Name, as is
requisite, and hath been accustomed for the same, and
also to enrol these Our Letters Patent, and the said
Acts, in the Parliament Roll; and these Our Letters
Patent shall be to every of them a sufficient Warrant in
that Behalf: And We do declare and will, that after
this Our Royal Assent given and passed by these
Presents, and declared and notified as is aforesaid,
then and immediately the said Acts shall be taken,
accepted and admitted good, sufficient and perfect
Acts of Parliament and Laws, to all Intents, Constructions and Purposes, and to be put in due Execution accordingly, the Continuance or Dissolution of
this Our Parliament, or any other Use, Custom, Thing
or Things to the contrary thereof notwithstanding:
And whereas by Our Letters Patent, bearing Date at
Westminster the Third Day of February last past, We
did give and grant unto the said Duke of Clarence,
Duke of Cumberland, Duke of Sussex, Duke of Cambridge, Duke of Gloucester, Archbishop of Canterbury,
Lord Lyndhurst, Earl Bathurst, Earl of Rosslyn, Duke
of Montrose, Duke of Leeds, Duke of Devonshire,
Duke of Portland, Duke of Wellington, Marquess
Conyngham, Marquess of Winchester, Marquess of
Lansdowne, Marquess Wellesley, Marquess Camden,
Marquess of Anglesey, Earl of Westmorland, Earl of
Carlisle, Earl of Shaftesbury, Earl of Aberdeen, Earl
Fitzwilliam, Earl Spencer, Earl of Chatham, Earl of
Eldon, Earl of Dudley, Viscount Melville, Viscount
Sidmouth, Viscount Goderich, Lord Holland, Lord
Grenville, Lord Ellenborough, Lord Bexley and Lord
Tenterden, and any Three of them, full Power, in Our
Name, to hold Our said Parliament, and to open and
declare, and cause to be opened and declared, the
Causes of holding the same; and to proceed upon the
said Affairs in Our said Parliament, and in all Matters
arising therein, and to do every thing which for Us,
and by Us, for the good Government of Our said
United Kingdom of Great Britain and Ireland, and of
other Our Dominions belonging to Our said United
Kingdom, should be therein to be done; and also, if
necessary, to continue, adjourn and prorogue Our said
Parliament: We do hereby further declare that Our
said Letters Patent, and every Clause, Matter and
Thing therein contained, shall be and remain in the
same Force and Strength as if these Presents had not
been had or made, and that nothing herein contained
shall be deemed or taken to affect or invalidate the
said recited Letters Patent, or any of the Powers or
Authorities therein contained, or the Exercise thereof,
or of any of them. In Witness whereof We have
caused these Our Letters to be made Patent.
"Witness Ourself at Westminster, the Third Day of
May, in the Eleventh Year of Our Reign.
"By the King Himself, signed with His own Hand.
"BATHURST."
Then The Lord Chancellor said,
"In obedience to His Majesty's Commands, and by
virtue of the Commission which has been now read, We
do declare and notify to you, the Lords Spiritual and
Temporal, and Commons, in Parliament assembled,
That His Majesty hath given His Royal Assent to the
several Acts in the Commission mentioned; and the
Clerks are required to pass the same in the usual Form
and Words."
Then the Deputy Clerk of the Crown, at the Table,
read the Titles of the Bills to be passed, severally,
as follow; (viz
t.)
1. "An Act for transferring certain Annuities of Four
Pounds per Centum per Annum into Annuities of Three
Pounds and Ten Shillings or Five Pounds per Centum
per Annum."
2. "An Act removing the Market at present held for
the Sale of Hay and Straw from the Haymarket; and
for establishing Markets for the Sale of Hay, Straw
and other Articles in York Square, Clarence Gardens
and Cumberland Market, in the Parish of Saint Pancras,
in the County of Middlesex."
3. "An Act for relieving, in certain Cases, Vessels
entering or sailing from the Port of Berwick-uponTweed from the Duties leviable under Two Acts
passed in the Forty-sixth and Fifty-fourth Years of His
late Majesty's Reign, relating to the Northern Lighthouses."
4. "An Act for incorporating the Dundee Gas Light
Company, and for the better lighting the Town of
Dundee by Gas."
5. "An Act for more effectually repairing the Road
from Wootton Bassett, in the County of Wilts, to the
Two-Mile Stone in the Turnpike Road leading from
Swindon to Marlborough, in the said County."
6. "An Act for maintaining the Road from Haverhill,
in the County of Suffolk, to Redcross, in the Parish of
Great Shelford, in the County of Cambridge."
7. "An Act for making a Turnpike Road from the
Bridge over the River Bure at Great Yarmouth to Acle,
(with certain Branches therefrom,) all in the County of
Norfolk."
To these Bills the Royal Assent was pronounced,
severally, by the Clerk Assistant, in these Words; (viz
t.)
"Le Roy le veult."
8. "An Act for inclosing Lands in the Parish of
Wistow, in the County of Huntingdon, and for extinguishing the Tithes in the said Parish."
9. "An Act for inclosing Lands in the Tithings of
Arle and Arlestone otherwise Allstone, in the Parish of
Cheltenham, in the County of Gloucester, and for discharging from Tithes Lands in the said Tithings."
10. "An Act for inclosing Lands in the Parishes of
Stanley Saint Leonard's otherwise Leonard Stanley, and
Eastington, or one of them, in the County of Gloucester,
and for discharging from Tithes Lands in the said Parish
of Stanley Saint Leonard's otherwise Leonard Stanley."
11. "An Act to dissolve the Marriage of Joseph
Salisbury Muskett Esquire with Mary Muskett his now
Wife, and to enable him to marry again; and for other
Purposes."
To these Bills the Royal Assent was pronounced,
severally, by the Clerk Assistant, in these Words; (viz
t.)
"Soit fait comme il est desiré."
Then the Commons withdrew.
The House was adjourned during Pleasure.
The House was resumed.
Leeds & Selby Railway Bill, Petitions in favor of: (York:) Skipton:
Upon reading the Petition of the Merchants, Traders
and other Inhabitants of the City of York, whose Names
are thereunto subscribed:
Also, Upon reading the Petition of the Inhabitants of
Skipton, in the West Riding of the County of York,
whose Names are thereunto subscribed:
Garforth:
Also, Upon reading the Petition of the Owners and
Occupiers of Land, Farmers and other Inhabitants of the
Parish of Garforth, in the Line of the proposed Railway
from Leeds to Selby, whose Names are thereunto subscribed:
Yeadon & Guiseley:
Also, Upon reading the Petition of the Woollen and
Worsted Manufacturers, and others interested therein,
residing in the District of Yeadon and Guiseley, in the
West Riding of the County of York, whose Names are
thereunto subscribed:
Hunslett:
Also, Upon reading the Petition of the Woollen and
Worsted Manufacturers, and others interested therein,
residing in the Township of Hunslett, in the West Riding
of the County of York, whose Names are thereunto subscribed:
Holbeck:
Also, Upon reading the Petition of the Woollen and
Worsted Manufacturers, and others interested therein,
residing in the Township of Holbeck, in the West Riding
of the County of York, whose Names are thereunto subscribed:
Wortley & Farnley:
Also, Upon reading the Petition of the Woollen and
Worsted Manufacturers, and others interested therein,
residing in the District of Wortley and Farnley, in the
West Riding of the County of York, whose Names are
thereunto subscribed:
Churwell & Morley:
Also, Upon reading the Petition of the Woollen and
Worsted Manufacturers, and others interested therein,
residing in the District of Churwell and Morley, in the
West Riding of the County of York, whose Names are
thereunto subscribed:
Kirkstall, &c:
Also, Upon reading the Petition of the Woollen and
Worsted Manufacturers, and others interested therein,
residing in the District of Kirkstall, Woodhouse and
Chapel Allerton, in the West Riding of the County of
York, whose Names are thereunto subscribed:
Armley:
Also, Upon reading the Petition of the Woollen and
Worsted Manufacturers, and others interested therein,
residing in the Township of Armley, in the West Riding
of the County of York, whose Names are thereunto subscribed:
Idle, &c:
Also, Upon reading the Petition of the Woollen and
Worsted Manufacturers, and others interested therein,
residing in the District of Idle, Baildon and Heaton, in
the West Riding of the County of York, whose Names
are thereunto subscribed:
Gildersome, &c:
Also, Upon reading the Petition of the Woollen and
Worsted Manufacturers, and others interested therein,
residing in the District of Gildersome, Drighlington and
Tong, in the West Riding of the County of York, whose
Names are thereunto subscribed:
Birstall & Gomersall:
Also, Upon reading the Petition of the Woollen and
Worsted Manufacturers, and others interested therein,
residing in the District of Birstall and Gomersall, in the
West Riding of the County of York, whose Names are
thereunto subscribed:
Calverley & Farsley:
Also, Upon reading the Petition of the Woollen and
Worsted Manufacturers, and others interested therein,
residing in the District of Calverley and Farsley, in the
West Riding of the County of York, whose Names are
thereunto subscribed:
Cleckheaton, &c:
Also, Upon reading the Petition of the Woollen and
Worsted Manufacturers, and others interested therein,
residing in the District of Cleckheaton, Wike, Hunsworth
and North Bierley, in the West Riding of the County of
York, whose Names are thereunto subscribed:
Batley & Heckmondwike:
Also, Upon reading the Petition of the Woollen and
Worsted Manufacturers, and others interested therein,
residing in the District of Batley and Heckmondwike, in
the West Riding of the County of York, whose Names
are thereunto subscribed:
Bolton:
Also, Upon reading the Petition of the Woollen and
Worsted Manufacturers, and others interested therein,
residing in the Township of Bolton, in the West Riding
of the County of York, whose Names are thereunto subscribed:
Eccleshill, &c:
Also, Upon reading the Petition of the Woollen and
Worsted Manufacturers, and others interested therein,
residing in the District of Eccleshill, Windhill and Shipley,
in the West Riding of the County of York, whose Names
are thereunto subscribed:
Bowling, &c:
Also, Upon reading the Petition of the Woollen and
Worsted Manufacturers, and others interested therein,
residing in the District of Bowling, Bradford and East
Bierley, in the West Riding of the County of York,
whose Names are thereunto subscribed:
Horbury:
Also, Upon reading the Petition of the Woollen and
Worsted Manufacturers, and others interested therein,
residing in the Township of Horbury, in the West Riding
of the County of York, whose Names are thereunto
subscribed:
Horsforth & Rawden:
Also, Upon reading the Petition of the Woollen and
Worsted Manufacturers, and others interested therein,
residing in the District of Horsforth and Rawden, in the
West Riding of the County of York, whose Names are
thereunto subscribed:
Thornhill:
And also, Upon reading the Petition of the Woollen
and Worsted Manufacturers, and others interested therein,
residing in the Parish of Thornhill, in the West Riding
of the County of York, whose Names are thereunto
subscribed; taking notice of a Bill depending in this
House, intituled, "An Act for making a Railway from
the Town of Leeds to the River Ouse, within the Parish
of Selby, in the West Riding of the County of York;"
and severally praying their Lordships, "That the same
may pass into a Law:"
It is Ordered, That the said Petitions do lie on the
Table.
South Milford, &c:
Upon reading the Petition of the Owners of Land,
Farmers and other Inhabitants of South Milford, Sherburn, Newthorpe and Micklefield, contiguous to the
proposed Railway from Leeds to Selby, in the West
Riding of the County of York, whose Names are thereunto subscribed; taking notice of the last-mentioned
Bill, and praying their Lordships, "That the same
may pass into a Law in such Manner and under
such Modifications as to them shall seem meet; and
that the Petitioners may be heard by themselves,
their Counsel or Agents, in support of the said
Bill:"
It is Ordered, That the said Petition do lie on the
Table.
Market Weighton:
Upon reading the Petition of the several Persons,
whose Names are thereunto subscribed, being the
Gentry, Merchants, Traders and other Inhabitants of
the Town of Market Weighton, in the East Riding of
the County of York:
Beverley:
And also, Upon reading the Petition of the several
Persons, whose Names are thereunto subscribed, being
the Gentry, Merchants, Bankers, Traders and other
Inhabitants of the Town and Liberties of Beverley, in
the East Riding of the County of York, whose Names
are thereunto subscribed; taking notice of the last-mentioned Bill, and severally praying their Lordships, "That
the same may pass into a Law in such Manner, by
such Ways and Means, and under and subject to
such Regulations and Restrictions as to their Lordships
shall seem meet:"
It is Ordered, That the said Petitions do lie on the
Table.
Bradford.
Upon reading the Petition of the Bankers, Merchants,
Manufacturers and others interested in the Town and
Trade of Bradford, in the West Riding of the County
of York, whose Names are thereunto subscribed; taking
notice of the last-mentioned Bill, and praying, "That
their Lordships will support the same, under such
Restrictions and Regulations as to their Lordships
shall seem meet, and will allow the Petitioners to be
heard by their Counsel or Agents, in support of such
Bill, at the Bar of this House:"
It is Ordered, That the said Petition do lie on the
Table.
Beer Trade, Petitions against opening:
Upon reading the Petition of the Inhabitants of the
Town of Halifax, in the County of York, whose Names
are thereunto subscribed:
(Halifax:) Elland with Greetland:
And also, Upon reading the Petition of the Inhabitants
of Elland with Greetland, in the Parish of Halifax, in
the County of York, whose Names are thereunto subscribed; severally praying their Lordships "not to
sanction any Measure for throwing open the Trade
of Beer, and for repealing those Laws relating thereto
which past Experience and present Opinion equally
approve to have been wise and salutary:"
It is Ordered, That the said Petitions do lie on the
Table.
Sheffield.
Upon reading the Petition of the Licensed Victuallers
of the Town and Neighbourhood of Sheffield, in the
West Riding of the County of York, whose Names are
thereunto subscribed; praying their Lordships "not to
sanction the proposed Measure for throwing open the
Trade in Beer, which must, if carried into a Law, be
attended with most ruinous Consequences to the
Petitioners, and would inflict on them, for no Fault of
theirs, a Loss amounting to many Thousand Pounds,
besides throwing many out of their accustomed Habits,
and forcing them to other Employments, after having
invested their Capital in a restricted Trade, established
under a long-existing Series of Laws:"
It is Ordered, That the said Petition do lie on the
Table.
Criminal Laws, Petitions for Revision of: (Chipping Norton:)
Upon reading the Petition of the Inhabitants of Chipping Norton, Oxon, and its Vicinity, whose Names are
thereunto subscribed; praying their Lordships, "That
the Penalty of Death in Cases of Forgery may be
commuted in such Manner as may appear to their
Wisdom best calculated to promote the Ends of Public
Justice, on an enlightened Policy, tempered by the
Benevolence of Christian Principles:"
It is Ordered, That the said Petition do lie on the
Table.
Haworth:
Upon reading the Petition of the Churchmen, Baptists,
Methodists and all other Christian Denominations in
Haworth, near Bradford, Yorkshire, whose Names are
thereunto subscribed; praying, "That their Lordships
will take into their most serious Consideration the
Necessity of a speedy and thorough Revision of all
those Laws that affect the Person and Life of His
Majesty's Subjects:"
It is Ordered, That the said Petition do lie on the
Table.
Luton:
Upon reading the Petition of the Inhabitants of the
Town and Parish of Luton, in the County of Bedford,
whose Names are thereunto subscribed; praying, "That
their Lordships will take into Consideration, not only
the Penal Statutes relating to Forgery, but also the
Expediency of commuting the Penalty of Death in
respect to all Offences connected with Property, in such
Manner as to their Lordships shall seem best adapted
to effect this important Purpose:"
It is Ordered, That the said Petition do lie on the
Table.
Boston.
Upon reading the Petition of the Inhabitants of the
Borough of Boston and its Neighbourhood, whose Names
are thereunto subscribed; praying their Lordships "to
abolish the Punishment of Death for Forgery and Cattle
Stealing, and also in Cases of Housebreaking and Highway Robbery unaccompanied by Acts of Violence or
Cruelty; and to substitute such other Punishment as
may further the Ends of Justice, without encroaching
on the Laws of Humanity:"
It is Ordered, That the said Petition do lie on the
Table.
Slavery, Petitions from Lee Croft & Howard St. Chapels, Sheffield, for Abolition of.
Upon reading the Petition of the Minister and Members
of the Congregation of Protestant Dissenters of the Independent Denomination at Lee Croft Chapel, and other
Friends uniting with them, in the Town of Sheffield,
Yorkshire, whose Names are thereunto subscribed:
And also, Upon reading the Petition of the Protestant
Dissenters of the Independent Denomination assembling
in Howard Street Chapel, Sheffield, whose Names are
thereunto subscribed; severally praying their Lordships
for the immediate and total Extinction of Slavery in all
Parts of His Majesty's Dominions, and for the Introduction of a much-injured Race to the Enjoyment of
Constitutional Freedom:"
It is Ordered, That the said Petitions do lie on the
Table.
Assizes for West Riding of Yorkshire, Petition from Wakefield for Removal of, to Wakefield.
Upon reading the Petition of the Clergy, Gentry, Freeholders and others, Inhabitants of the Town and Parish of
Wakefield, in the West Riding of the County of York, whose
Names are thereunto subscribed; praying their Lordships
to take into their serious Consideration the Recommendation contained in the First Report of the Law Commissioners, that the Assizes for the West Riding of the
County of York be removed from York to Wakefield,
with a view to devise Means for putting it into Effect,
and for affording to the Petitioners such further Relief
as to their Lordships may seem most expedient:"
It is Ordered, That the said Petition do lie on the
Table.
East India, &c. Trade, Petitions for opening, referred to East India Com ee: (Magistrates, &c. of Kinghorn:)
Upon reading the Petition of the Magistrates, Town
Council, Heritors and Burgesses of the Royal Burgh of
Kinghorn, in Head Court assembled, under their Common
Seal; praying their Lordships "to alter the Laws connected with our Trade to Countries to the East of the
Cape of Good Hope, so as to secure to all His Majesty's
Subjects in the United Kingdom an entire and free
Enjoyment of such Trade, and such Right to resort
to and reside in all Parts of India as may be consistent
with the Safety and Tranquillity of our Eastern
Empire:"
It is Ordered, That the said Petition do lie on the
Table.
Ordered, That the said Petition be referred to the
Select Committee appointed to enquire into the present
State of the Affairs of The East India Company, and
into the Trade between Great Britain, the East Indies
and China.
Cardiff:
Upon reading the Petition of the Inhabitants of Cardiff
and its Neighbourhood, whose Names are thereunto subscribed; praying their Lordships, "That they will agree
to no Proposals for continuing the Restrictions on the
Right of the Petitioners and their Fellow Subjects to
trade with all Countries in Peace with the British
Crown, and to reside in any of the Colonies and
Dependencies of the British Empire:"
It is Ordered, That the said Petition do lie on the
Table.
Ordered, That the said Petition be referred to the lastmentioned Committee.
Barnard Castle:
Upon reading the Petition of the Gentry, Merchants,
Manufacturers and others of the Town of Barnard
Castle, in the County of Durham, and its Vicinity, whose
Names are thereunto subscribed; praying their Lordships
to adopt such Measures as in their Wisdom may seem
best adapted to secure to the Petitioners and this
Empire the incalculable Benefits resulting from free
and unrestricted Commerce to all Parties throughout
our European and Asiatic Dominions:"
It is Ordered, That the said Petition do lie on the
Table.
Ordered, That the said Petition be referred to the lastmentioned Committee.
Stockton upon Tees:
Upon reading the Petition of the Merchants, Bankers,
Ship Owners, Manufacturers and other Inhabitants of
the Town and Port of Stockton upon Tees, in the County
Palatine of Durham, whose Names are thereunto subscribed; praying their Lordships "to give that great
National Question of opening the Trade to India and
China the most attentive and impartial Consideration;
and to adopt such Measures on or previous to the
Expiration of The East India Company's Charter as
will secure to the British Merchant and Ship Owner
the Right of freely embarking in this important
Trade:"
It is Ordered, That the said Petition do lie on the
Table.
Ordered, That the said Petition be referred to the lastmentioned Committee.
Nottingham.
Upon reading the Petition of the Merchants, Manufacturers and other Inhabitants of Nottingham, whose
Names are thereunto subscribed; praying their Lordships,
"That at the earliest Period allowed by Law such
Measures may be adopted as shall secure to all His
Majesty's Subjects in the United Kingdom a Free Trade
to all the Countries situated to the Eastward of the
Cape of Good Hope, and the Liberty of proceeding to
and residing in those Countries; also the Privilege of
holding and possessing Land, and trading within the
British Possessions in India, under such Regulations as
to their Lordships may seem proper and consistent with
their Government, Tranquillity and Safety:"
It is Ordered, That the said Petition do lie on the
Table.
Ordered, That the said Petition be referred to the lastmentioned Committee.
British Spirits, Petitions against Encrease of Duty on: (County of Fife:) Farmers, &c. of Fifeshire:
Upon reading the Petition of the Noblemen, Freeholders, Justices of Peace and Commissioners of Supply
of the County of Fife, whose Names are thereunto
subscribed:
And also, Upon reading the Petition of the Farmers
and Occupiers of Land in the Western District of Fifeshire, whose Names are thereunto subscribed; severally
praying their Lordships "to afford them the Protection
that they have hitherto had in the Duties on Spirits;
and if it is necessary to lay additional Duty on the
Spirits consumed in England, that the same Scale of
Duties which has been hitherto observed between
Colonial and Home-made Spirits shall be continued:"
It is Ordered, That the said Petitions do lie on the
Table.
Cupar:
Upon reading the Petition of the Farmers of the
District of Cupar, in the County of Fife, whose Names
are thereunto subscribed; praying their Lordships "to
take into Consideration the Measure lately proposed
for raising the Duties on British-made Spirits, without
making a corresponding Encrease on the Duty of Rum;
and to afford such Protection to the Agricultural
Interest as to their Lordships may seem proper:"
It is Ordered, That the said Petition do lie on the
Table.
Com ee of the Norfolk Agricultural Society.
Upon reading the Petition of the Committee of the
Norfolk Agricultural Society, whose Names are thereunto
subscribed; praying their Lordships, "That if an
additional Duty be imposed on British Spirits, an
equivalent Encrease of Duty may at the same Time
be imposed on all other Spirits, especially on Rum:"
It is Ordered, That the said Petition do lie on the
Table.
Disabilities of the Jews, Petition of Jews in Bath for Removal of.
Upon reading the Petition of the Jews residing in the
City of Bath, whose Names are thereunto subscribed;
praying, "That their Lordships will take their Case into
Consideration, and afford them that Relief from the
Disabilities and Restrictions still existing against them
which their Lordships, in their Wisdom, may deem
necessary and just to grant:"
It is Ordered, That the said Petition do lie on the
Table.
Foleshill Poor Bill.
A Message was brought from the House of Commons,
by Mr. Heathcote and others;
With a Bill, intituled, "An Act for better assessing
and collecting the Poor and other Rates in the Parish
of Foleshill, in the County of the City of Coventry;" to
which they desire the Concurrence of this House.
London Bridge Approaches Bill.
A Message was brought from the House of Commons,
by Mr. Alderman Wood and others;
With a Bill, intituled, "An Act to make further Provision for defraying the Expences of making the
Approaches to London Bridge and the Removal of
Fleet Market;" to which they desire the Concurrence
of this House.
Weston Zoyland, &c. Inclosure Bill.
A Message was brought from the House of Commons,
by Mr. Alderman Wood and others;
With a Bill, intituled, "An Act for dividing and
allotting Lands within the Parishes of Weston Zoyland
and Middlezoy, in the County of Somerset;" to which
they desire the Concurrence of this House.
Othery, &c. Drainage Bill.
A Message was brought from the House of Commons,
by Mr. Alderman Wood and others;
With a Bill, intituled, "An Act for draining, flooding
and improving certain Low Lands and Grounds within
the several Parishes of Othery, Middlezoy and Weston
Zoyland, in the County of Somerset;" to which they
desire the Concurrence of this House.
Tonbridge &c. Roads Bill.
A Message was brought from the House of Commons,
by Sir Alexander Grant and others;
With a Bill, intituled, "An Act for amending and
improving the Road from Tonbridge to Ightham, and
other Roads communicating therewith, in the County
of Kent;" to which they desire the Concurrence of
this House.
Blackburn Road Bill.
A Message was brought from the House of Commons,
by Sir Alexander Grant and others;
With a Bill, intituled, "An Act for more effectually
repairing the Road from Blackburn to Walton Cop, within
Walton in le Dale, in the County of Lancaster;" to
which they desire the Concurrence of this House.
Dundee & Newtyle Railway Bill.
A Message was brought from the House of Commons,
by Sir Alexander Grant and others;
With a Bill, intituled, "An Act to amend an Act for
making a Railway from Dundee to Newtyle;" to which
they desire the Concurrence of this House.
The said Seven Bills were, severally, read the First
Time.
Holyhead Road, Accounts respecting, delivered.
The House being informed, "That Mr. Robertson, from
the Office of His Majesty's Woods, Forests and Land
Revenue, attended;"
He was called in; and delivered at the Bar, pursuant to
an Order of the 25th Day of March last,
"An Account of all Sums of Money granted by
Parliament, and all other Sums expended by the Parliamentary Commissioners, from the Institution of the
Commission for the Improvement of the Road from
London to Holyhead to the present Period, distinguishing the Amounts applied to the several Portions of
Road within the following Trusts; (vizt)
"The Highgate Trust.
"Highgate Archway Road.
"Whetstone Trust.
"St. Alban's Trust.
"Dunstable Trust.
"Puddle Hill Trust.
"Hockcliffe and Stratford Trust.
"Stoney Stratford Trust.
"Statford and Dunchurch Trust.
"Dunchurch and Stone Bridge Trust.
"Stone Bridge and Birmingham Trust.
"Wednesbury Trust.
"Bilston Trust.
"Wolverhampton Trust.
"Shiffnall District.
"Wellington District.
"Road from Shrewsbury to Bangor."
And also, "An Account of all Salaries, Gratuities,
Travelling Charges and other Allowances paid under
the Direction of the Holyhead Road Commissioners;
stating the Names of the Persons to whom the said
Salaries have been paid, and their Offices."
And then he withdrew.
And the Titles thereof being read by the Clerk;
Ordered, That the said Accounts do lie on the Table.
Ordered, That the said Accounts be printed.
4th Report of Com rs of Metropolis Turnpike Roads delivered.
The House being informed, "That Mr. Richard Robertson, from the Commissioners of the Metropolis Turnpike Roads, attended;"
He was called in; and delivered at the Bar, pursuant
to the Directions of an Act of Parliament,
"The Fourth Report of the Commissioners of the
Metropolis Turnpike Roads, North of the Thames."
And then he withdrew.
And the Title thereof being read by the Clerk;
Ordered, That the said Report do lie on the Table.
Ordered, That the said Report be printed.
List of Hong Merchants delivered, & referred to East India Com ee.
The House being informed, "That Mr. Preston, from
the Court of Directors of The East India Company,
attended;"
He was called in; and delivered at the Bar, pursuant
to an Order of the 25th Day of March last,
"A List of Hong Merchants, stating the particular
Privileges and Powers with which they are invested
in respect to the Canton Trade."
And then he withdrew.
And the Title thereof being read by the Clerk;
Ordered, That the said Paper do lie on the Table.
Ordered, That the said Paper be printed.
Ordered, That the said Paper be referred to the
Select Committee appointed to enquire into the present
State of the Affairs of The East India Company, and into
the Trade between Great Britain, the East Indies and
China.
Mr. Gepp to attend.
The House being informed, "That Mr. Gepp, Acting
Treasurer of the Western Division of the County of
Essex, had not made a Return of all Monies levied
for the County Rate of the said County, from the 5th
of April 1815 to the 5th of April 1829, inclusive, distinguishing each Year, and the Items of Expenditure,
pursuant to the Order of this House of Monday the
15th of June last:"
Ordered, That the said Mr. Gepp do attend this House
on Monday next at Four o'Clock.
Parish Accounts, Petition of
Upon reading the Petition of George Gunning of Frindsbury, Kent, a Lieutenant on the Half Pay of His Majesty's
G. Gunning for better Mode of keeping.
First Regiment of Dragoon Guards; praying, "That
their Lordships will be pleased to pass a Law to oblige
all Overseers of the Poor to keep their Accounts in
one fixed Form; and that their Lordships will give the
Forms of Returns for such Purpose in the said Petition
set forth their most gracious Consideration:"
It is Ordered, That the said Petition do lie on the
Table.
Labourers Wages, Petition from Lyme Regis respecting.
Upon reading the Petition of the Clothiers carrying on
the Manufacture of Woollen Cloths at Lyme Regis, in
the County of Dorset, whose Names are thereunto subscribed; praying their Lordships, "to adopt the most
effectual Measures their Wisdom can devise to put
down the Practice of paying Wages in Goods instead
of Money, which, as it appears to the Petitioners, is
from its Nature fraught with the most fearful Consequences to every Class of Society, and even to the State
itself:"
It is Ordered, That the said Petition do lie on the
Table.
Distress at Bandon, Petition from Bandon respecting.
Upon reading the Petition of the Inhabitants of the
Town of Bandon and its Vicinity, whose Names are
thereunto subscribed; praying their Lordships "to take
the distressed State of the Operatives of the Town of
Bandon into Consideration, with a view to render them
Relief by affording them productive Employment, or
by affording them Facilities of Emigration, or by whatever other Means their Lordships, in their Wisdom, may
devise:"
It is Ordered, That the said Petition do lie on the
Table.
Distress of the Country, Petition from Grimshoe respecting.
Upon reading the Petition of the Owners and Occupiers of Land and other Inhabitants of the Hundred of
Grimshoe, in the County of Norfolk, whose Names are
thereunto subscribed; praying, "That their Lordships
will be pleased to take into their earliest and most
serious Consideration the present distressed State of all
Classes of His Majesty's Subjects, and take Steps to
afford Relief, by applying to their utmost practicable
Limits Economy and Retrenchment in every Department of the State; by a material Reduction of all
Taxes pressing directly or indirectly on the Necessaries
of Life, particularly on Beer, the wholesome Beverage
of the Poor; and for the Total Repeal of the Malt
Tax:"
It is Ordered, That the said Petition do lie on the
Table.
Climbing Boys in sweeping Chimnies, Petition from Newcastle-under-Lyme against Employment of.
Upon reading the Petition of the Inhabitants of Newcastle-under-Lyme, whose Names are thereunto subscribed; praying their Lordships "to pass such an Act
for prohibiting the Use of Children in climbing
Chimnies for the Purpose of cleansing them, as their
Lordships in their Wisdom may deem fit:"
It is Ordered, That the said Petition do lie on the
Table.
Leeds & Selby Railway Bill, Petition against.
Upon reading the Petition of Isabella Ann Dowager
Marchioness of Hertford, and of the Owners of Lands on
the Line of the Railway from Leeds to Selby, in the West
Riding of the County of York, whose Names are thereunto subscribed; taking notice of a Bill depending in this
House, intituled, "An Act for making a Railway from
the Town of Leeds to the River Ouse, within the Parish
of Selby, in the West Riding of the County of York;"
and praying their Lordships, "That they may be heard
by themselves, their Counsel, Agents and Witnesses,
against the Preamble, and so much and such Parts of
the said Bill as may affect their Rights and Interests;
and that the said Bill may not pass into a Law as it
now stands:"
It is Ordered, That the said Petition do lie on the
Table.
Foreign Lead, Petitions against Importation of: (Arkengarthdale:)
Upon reading the Petition of the Inhabitants of Arkengarthdale, in the North Riding of the County of York,
whose Names are thereunto subscribed; praying their
Lordships "to take the distressed Situation of this
Parish into their most serious Consideration, and grant
them such Relief, either by imposing a sufficient protecting Duty upon Foreign Lead and Lead Ore, or by
such other Means as their Lordships, in their Wisdom,
may think proper:"
It is Ordered, That the said Petition do lie on the
Table.
Middleton in Teesdale:
Upon reading the Petition of the Inhabitants of the
Parish of Middleton in Teesdale, in the County of Durham, whose Names are thereunto subscribed; praying,
"That their Lordships will be pleased to adopt some
Measures for giving to the British Lead Miners an
effectual Preference to Foreigners both in our Home
Market and that of our Colonies:"
It is Ordered, That the said Petition do lie on the
Table.
Mining District on the Derwent.
Upon reading the Petition of the Inhabitants of the
Mining District on the Derwent, in the Counties of Durham, and Northumberland, whose Names are thereunto
subscribed; praying, "That such Relief as seems good
to their Lordships may be granted, as will enable the
Proprietors of Lead Mines to compete with Foreigners;
and thus, by encouraging the Productions of our own
Country, afford Employment, and rescue the Petitioners
from the present overwhelming Distress:"
It is Ordered, That the said Petition do lie on the
Table.
M'Gavin v. Stewart.
Ordered, That the Order made on Thursday the 29th
of April last, "That the further Hearing of the Cause
wherein James M'Gavin is Appellant, and James Stewart is Respondent, be put off to Tuesday next," be
discharged.
Same v. same.
Ordered, That the Order made on Thursday the 29th
of April last, "That the Hearing of the Second Cause
wherein the said James M'Gavin is Appellant, and the
said James Stewart is Respondent, which stands appointed for this Day, be put off to Tuesday next," be
discharged.
Morrison et al. v. Mitchell.
Ordered, That the Order made on Thursday the 29th
of April last, "That the Hearing of the Cause wherein
John Morrison, and others, are Appellants, and James
Mitchell is Respondent, which stands appointed for
this Day, be put off to Tuesday next," be discharged.
Thomson v. Forrester.
Ordered, That the Order made on Thursday the 29th
of April last, "That the Cause wherein James Thomson is
Appellant, and Thomas Forrester is Respondent, be
heard by Counsel at the Bar on Tuesday next," be
discharged.
Hamerton's Divorce Bill.
It was moved, "That the Order made on Thursday the
29th of April last, "That the further Consideration and
Second Reading of the Bill, intituled, "An Act to
dissolve the Marriage of William Medows Hamerton
Esquire with Isabella Frances his now Wife, and to
enable him to marry again; and for other Purposes,"
be put off to Tuesday the 4th of May next; and that
the Lords be summoned;" be now read."
The same was accordingly read by the Clerk.
Ordered, That the said Order be discharged.
Ordered, That the further Consideration and Second
Reading of the said Bill be put off to Thursday next,
and that the Lords be summoned; and that Mrs. Mary
Matthews, who was Ordered to attend, do then attend.
Leicester & Swannington Railway Bill.
A Message was brought from the House of Commons,
by Mr. Legh Keck and others;
With a Bill, intituled, "An Act for making and maintaining a Railway or Tram road from the River Soar,
near the West Bridge, in or near the Borough of
Leicester, to Swannington, in the County of Leicester,
and Four Branches therefrom;" to which they desire
the Concurrence of this House.
Whaddon Inclosure Bill.
A Message was brought from the House of Commons,
by Sir Thomas Fremantle and others;
With a Bill, intituled, "An Act for inclosing and
exonerating from Tithes Lands in the Parish of Whaddon, including the Hamlet of Nash, in the County of
Buckingham;" to which they desire the Concurrence
of this House.
Hockliffe Road Bill.
A Message was brought from the House of Commons,
by Sir Thomas Fremantle and others;
With a Bill, intituled, "An Act for more effectually
repairing and maintaining the Road between Hockliffe,
in the County of Bedford, and Stony Stratford, in the
County of Buckingham;" to which they desire the
Concurrence of this House.
Deddithorpe Inclosure Bill.
A Message was brought from the House of Commons,
by Sir William Ingleby and others;
With a Bill, intituled, "An Act for dividing, allotting
and inclosing, and for exonerating from Tithes, Lands
within the Township or Hamlet of Deddithorpe otherwise Derrythorpe, in the Parish of Althorpe, in the
Isle of Axholme, in the County of Lincoln;" to which
they desire the Concurrence of this House.
Rotherham Road Bill.
A Message was brought from the House of Commons,
by Mr. Charles Wood and others;
With a Bill, intituled, "An Act for altering, improving,
diverting and maintaining the Road from Rotherham
to the Four Lane Ends, near Wortley, in the West
Riding of the County of York;" to which they desire
the Concurrence of this House.
The said Five Bills were, severally, read the First
Time.
Leeds & Selby Railway Bill read 2 a, & committed:
It was moved, "That the Bill, intituled, "An Act for
making a Railway from the Town of Leeds to the River
Ouse, within the Parish of Selby, in the West Riding
of the County of York," be now read a Second
Time."
Which being objected to;
The Question was put thereupon?
It was resolved in the Affirmative.
Then the said Bill was read a Second Time.
Ordered, That the said Bill be committed to the
Consideration of the Lords following:
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L. Bp. Bristol.
L. Bp. Carlisle.
L. Bp. Rochester.
L. Bp. Raphoe.
L. De Clifford.
L. Willoughby de Eresby.
L. Dacre.
L. Clifton.
L. Teynham.
L. Stafford.
L. Gower.
L. Colville of Culross.
L. Hay.
L. King.
L. Monson.
L. Holland.
L. Vernon.
L. Ducie.
L. Montagu.
L. Dundas.
L. Dawnay.
L. Calthorpe.
L. Rolle.
L. Wellesley.
L. Bolton.
L. Ribblesdale.
L. Fitz Gibbon.
L. Carbery.
L. Dufferin & Claneboye.
L. Dunalley.
L. Redesdale.
L. Ellenborough.
L. Arden.
L. Mont Eagle.
L. Manners.
L. Hill.
L. Meldrum.
L. Melbourne.
L. Churchill.
L. Prudhoe.
L. Forester.
L. Bexley.
L. Penshurst.
L. Somerhill.
L. Wharncliffe.
L. Clanwilliam.
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D. CUMBERLAND.
L. Abp. Canterbury.
L. President.
L. Privy Seal.
D. Norfolk.
D. Richmond.
D. Beaufort.
D. Leeds.
D. Devonshire.
D. Rutland.
D. Wellington.
M. Salisbury.
M. Bute.
M. Camden.
M. Cleveland.
E. Westmorland.
E. Winchilsea & Nottingham.
E. Chesterfield.
E. Shaftesbury.
E. Albemarle.
E. Jersey.
E. Rosebery.
E. Ferrers.
E. Tankerville.
E. Cowper.
E. Stanhope.
E. Hardwicke.
E. De Lawarr.
E. Hillsborough.
E. Carnarvon.
E. Malmesbury.
E. Chichester.
E. Limerick.
E. Charleville.
E. Grey.
E. Harrowby.
E. Harewood.
E. Beauchamp.
E. Eldon.
E. Falmouth.
E. Howe.
V. Melville.
V. Lorton.
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Their Lordships, or any Five of them, to meet Tomorrow, at One o'Clock in the Afternoon, in the
Prince's Lodgings, near the House of Peers; and
to adjourn as they please.
Petitions against & for it, referred to the Com ee:
Ordered, That the Petition of Isabella Ann Dowager
Marchioness of Hertford, and of the Owners of Lands
on the Line of the Railway from Leeds to Selby, in the
West Riding of the County of York, whose Names are
thereunto subscribed, presented to the House this Day;
taking notice of the last-mentioned Bill, and praying
their Lordships, "That they may be heard by themselves,
their Counsel, Agents and Witnesses, against the same,"
be referred to the Committee to whom the said Bill
stands committed, and that the Petitioners be at liberty
to be heard by themselves, their Counsel, Agents and
Witnesses, against the same, as desired; and that
Counsel be heard for the Bill at the same Time, if they
think fit.
Ordered, That the several Petitions presented to the
House, praying, That the last-mentioned Bill may pass
into a Law, be referred to the Committee to whom the
said Bill stands committed.
All Lords added to the Com ee:
Ordered, That all the Lords who have been or shall be
present this Session, and are not named of the Committee
to whom the last-mentioned Bill stands committed, be
added thereto.
Com ee to appoint a Chairman.
Ordered, That the Committee to whom the said Bill
stands committed do appoint their own Chairman.
Wallis's Divorce Bill:
Hodie 3a
vice lecta est Billa, intituled, "An Act to
dissolve the Marriage of Thomas Wallis Esquire with
Charlotte Augusta Amelia his now Wife, and to enable
him to marry again; and for other Purposes."
The Question was put, "Whether this Bill shall
pass?"
It was resolved in the Affirmative.
Message to H.C. with it.
A Message was sent to the House of Commons, by
Mr. Farrer and Mr. Wingfield;
To carry down the said Bill, and desire their Concurrence thereto.
Sunderland Harbour Bill.
Hodie 2a
vice lecta est Billa, intituled, "An Act to
amend and enlarge the Powers and Provisions of several
Acts relating to the Improvement and Preservation of
the River Wear, and the Port and Haven of Sunderland,
in the County Palatine of Durham."
Ordered, That the said Bill be committed to the
Consideration of the Lords Committees aforenamed:
Their Lordships, or any Five of them, to meet Tomorrow, at the usual Time and Place; and to
adjourn as they please.
Warrington & Newton Railway Bill.
Hodie 2a
vice lecta est Billa, intituled, "An Act to
enable the Company of Proprietors of the Warrington
and Newton Railway to extend the Line of the said
Railway; and for repealing, explaining, altering, amending and enlarging some of the Powers and Provisions
of the Act relating thereto."
Ordered, That the said Bill be committed to the
Consideration of the Lords Committees aforenamed:
Their Lordships, or any Five of them, to meet on
the same Day, at the same Place; and to adjourn
as they please.
Hagley Inclosure Bill.
Hodie 2a
vice lecta est Billa, intituled, "An Act for
inclosing certain Lands in the Parish of Hagley, in the
County of Worcester."
Ordered, That the said Bill be committed to the
Consideration of the Lords Committees aforenamed:
Their Lordships, or any Five of them, to meet on
the same Day, at the same Place; and to adjourn
as they please.
Wendover Road Bill.
Hodie 2a
vice lecta est Billa, intituled, "An Act for
more effectually repairing and improving the Road
from Wendover to the Town of Buckingham, in the
County of Buckingham."
Ordered, That the said Bill be committed to the
Consideration of the Lords Committees aforenamed:
Their Lordships, or any Five of them, to meet on
the same Day, at the same Place; and to adjourn
as they please.
Wigan Railway Bill.
Hodie 2a
vice lecta est Billa, intituled, "An Act for
making and maintaining a Railway from the Borough
of Wigan to the Liverpool and Manchester Railway, in
the Borough of Newton, in the County Palatine of
Lancaster, and Collateral Branches to communicate
therewith."
Ordered, That the said Bill be committed to the
Consideration of the Lords Committees aforenamed:
Their Lordships, or any Five of them, to meet on
the same Day, at the same Place; and to adjourn
as they please.
Gordon's Estate Bill.
Hodie 2a
vice lecta est Billa, intituled, "An Act for
vesting Part of the Estates devised by and settled to
the Uses of the Wills of James Gordon Esquire, and of
his Son James Gordon Esquire, both deceased, situate
in the Counties of Hertford and Somerset, and in the
Island of Antigua, in the West Indies, in Trustees to be
sold, and for laying out the Monies thence arising in
the Purchase of other Estates; and for other Purposes."
Ordered, That the said Bill be committed to the
Consideration of the Lords Committees aforenamed:
Their Lordships, or any Five of them, to meet on
Monday the 24th of this instant May, at the
usual Time and Place; and to adjourn as they
please.
Hall's Estate Bill.
Hodie 2a
vice lecta est Billa, intituled, "An Act to
authorize the granting of Building and Mining Leases
of certain Parts of the Estates now subject to the
Trusts of the Will of Benjamin Hall Esquire, deceased,
and of other Estates which may be hereafter conveyed
or settled upon the same Trusts, and also the Appropriation and Grant of other Part of the said Estates for
the Erection of a Church."
Ordered, That the said Bill be committed to the
Consideration of the Lords Committees aforenamed:
Their Lordships, or any Five of them, to meet on
the same Day, at the same Place; and to adjourn
as they please.
Leather Duties Repeal Bill.
Hodie 2a
vice lecta est Billa, intituled, "An Act to
repeal the Duties of Excise and Drawbacks on Leather,
and the Laws relating thereto."
Ordered, That the said Bill be committed to a Committee of the Whole House.
Ordered, That the House be put into a Committee
upon the said Bill To-morrow.
Maccabe v. Hussey & Maccabe, Petition of a Respondent for Time for her Case, referred to Appeal Com ee.
Upon reading the Petition of Catherine Hussey, one of
the Respondents in a Cause depending in this House, to
which Jennings Patrick Maccabe Esquire is Appellant;
praying their Lordships, "That she may have Six Weeks
further Time to lay her Case on the Table of this
House:"
It is Ordered, That the said Petition be referred to the
Committee appointed to consider of the Causes in which
Prints of the Appellants and Respondents Cases, now
depending in this House in Matters of Appeals and
Writs of Error, have not been delivered, pursuant to the
Standing Orders of this House.
Robley et al. v. Brooke, Respondent's Petition for Time for his Case, referred to Appeal Com ee.
Upon reading the Petition of Charles Brooke, Respondent in a Cause depending in this House, to which
Caroline Robley, and others, are Appellants; praying,
"That their Lordships will grant unto the Petitioner Six
Weeks further Time for laying a Print of his Case upon
the Table of this House; and that such Time may be
computed from the Expiration of the Time allowed
by the Orders of this House:"
It is Ordered, That the said Petition be referred to the
Committee appointed to consider of the Causes in which
Prints of the Appellants and Respondents Cases, now
depending in this House in Matters of Appeals and Writs
of Error, have not been delivered, pursuant to the Standing
Orders of this House.
Suits in Equity Bill.
It was moved, "That the Order made on Wednesday the
28th of April last, "That the Bill, intituled, "An Act
for further facilitating the Administration of Justice in
Suits and other Proceedings in Equity," be read the
Third Time on Tuesday next; and that the Lords be
summoned," be now read."
The same was accordingly read by the Clerk.
Ordered, That the said Order be discharged.
Ordered, That the said Bill be read the Third Time
on Tuesday the 11th of this instant May; and that the
Lords be summoned.
Slane Peerage, Com ee to meet.
Ordered, That the Committee for Privileges, to whom
the Petition of George Bryan of Jenkinstown, in the
County of Kilkenny, Esquire, to His Majesty, praying,
"That his Claim to the Barony of Slane may be referred
to The House of Peers, to report whether the said Title
be or be not a Barony in Fee by Writ of Summons,
descendible to Heirs General, and whether the same is
or is not now in Abeyance between Edward Lord Dunsany and the Petitioner;" together with His Majesty's
Reference thereof to this House, and the Report of
the Attorney General thereunto annexed; and also the
Petition of Henry Fleming of the City of Dublin,
praying, "That their Lordships will not adjudge the
Barony of Slane to the Claimant, Mr. Bryan, until he
has fully and clearly proved that, according to the
Usage and Law of Ireland, he is entitled to it; and
that Time may be allowed until James Fleming, his
eldest Brother, who is at present in France, and altogether ignorant of the Steps that have been taken by
the said George Bryan, shall return, and have an Opportunity of proving, at the Bar of this House, the
Truth of the Allegations contained in the said Petition,"
stand referred, do meet to consider of the said Claim on
Wednesday the 19th of this instant May; and that Notice
thereof be given to His Majesty's Attorney General for
England, and also to His Majesty's Attorney or Solicitor
General for Ireland.
Benson's et al. Petition to receive Judges Report:
Upon reading the Petition of Ralph Benson Esquire,
and others, praying their Lordships, "That, in Consideration of the particular Circumstances of the Case, the
Judges Report on their Petition for a Private Bill may
be now received:"
It is Ordered, That the said Report be now received.
Benson et al. Leave for a Bill:
Accordingly, After reading and considering the Report
of the Judges, to whom was referred the Petition of
Ralph Benson Esquire, and others; praying Leave to bring
in a Private Bill, for the Purposes therein mentioned:
It is Ordered, That Leave be given to bring in a Bill,
pursuant to the said Petition and Report.
Bill read.
Hodie 1a
vice lecta est Billa, intituled, "An Act for
vesting an Estate at Liverpool, in the County of
Lancaster, devised and settled by the Will of Moses
Benson Esquire, deceased, in Trustees to be sold, and
for laying out the Monies arising from such Sale in
the Purchase of Estates to be settled to the same
Uses."
Buckle's Estate Bill, Copy of, referred to Judges in Ireland to take Consents.
Ordered, That a printed Copy of the Bill, intituled,
"An Act to enable John Buckle Esquire, or other Committee of the Estate of William Buckle, a Lunatic, for
and in the Name and on behalf of the said William
Buckle, to consent to the Exercise of a Power of Sale
over Estates settled on the said William Buckle for his
Life, and which Power is exerciseable with the Consent
of the said William Buckle," attested by the Clerk of
the Parliaments, be, and the same is hereby referred to
Mr. Justice Jebb, in Ireland, and Mr. Justice Johnson, in
Ireland, who are forthwith to summon George Whitley
Esquire and Louisa his Wife, James Scargill Esquire and
Gertrude his Wife, Hamilton Lockwood Esquire and
Richard Butler Esquire, now in Ireland, and to take their
Consent to the said Bill; and thereafter to report to the
House, under their Hands, whether the said Persons have
appeared before them the said Mr. Justice Jebb and
Mr. Justice Johnson, and consented to the same; and that
the said Mr. Justice Jebb and Mr. Justice Johnson do sign
the said printed Copy of the said Bill.
Caxton Inclosure Bill.
The Earl of Shaftesbury reported from the Lords Committees, to whom the Bill, intituled, "An Act for inclosing and exonerating from Tithes Lands in the Parish of
Caxton, in the County of Cambridge," was committed;
That they had considered the said Bill, and examined
the Allegations thereof, which were found to be true;
that the Parties concerned had given their Consents to
Satisfaction of the Committee; and that the Committee
had gone through the Bill, and directed him to report
the same to the House, without any Amendment."
De Chapeaurouge's Naturalization Bill.
The Earl of Shaftesbury reported from the Lords Committees, to whom the Bill, intituled, "An Act for
naturalizing Philip Augustus De Chapeaurouge," was
committed; "That they had considered the said Bill, and
examined the Allegations thereof, which were found
to be true; and that the Committee had gone through
the Bill, and directed him to report the same to the
House, without any Amendment."
Ordered, That the said Bill be ingrossed.
Clifton Bridge Bill, Judges Report read.
The Report of the Judges, to whom the Consideration
of the Bill, intituled, "An Act for building a Bridge
over the River Avon, from Clifton, in the County of
Gloucester, to the opposite Side of the River, in the
County of Somerset, and for making convenient Roads
and Approaches to communicate therewith," was referred, was read.
Fever Hospitals (Ireland) Bill.
The House (according to Order) was adjourned during
Pleasure, and put in a Committee upon the Bill, intituled,
"An Act to extend the Powers of Grand Juries in the
Execution of an Act of the Fifty-eighth Year of His
late Majesty's Reign, for establishing Fever Hospitals
in Ireland."
After some Time, the House was resumed:
And The Earl of Shaftesbury reported from the Committee, "That they had gone through the Bill, and
directed him to report the same to the House, without
any Amendment."
East Retford Election Bill, Witnesses discharged from further Attendance.
Ordered, That Richard Hannam, William Elmsall Carter,
Henry Pickup, Stephen Hemsworth, John Goodlad, Edward
Golland, Jonathan Banks and John Fell, be discharged
from further Attendance on this House on the Bill,
intituled, "An Act to prevent Bribery and Corruption
in the Election of Burgesses to serve in Parliament for
the Borough of East Retford."
East Retford Election Bill.
The Order of the Day being read for the further Consideration and Second Reading of the Bill, intituled,
"An Act to prevent Bribery and Corruption in the
Election of Burgesses to serve in Parliament for the
Borough of East Retford," and for the Lords to be
summoned; and for permitting Counsel to examine
Witnesses in support of the Bill; and for hearing Counsel
on the Petition of the Burgesses of the Borough of East
Retford, in the County of Nottingham, whose Names are
thereunto subscribed, praying their Lordships, "That
the said Bill may not pass into a Law;"
Counsel were accordingly called in.
Then William Evans Esquire was called in; and having
been sworn, was examined as follows:
(Mr. Law.) "Is your Name William Evans?"
"Yes."
"Were you a Candidate to represent the Borough of
East Retford in the Year 1818?"
"I was."
"Were you also a Candidate for that Borough in the
Year 1820?"
"I was."
"Did you, after the Elections in those Years, sit as a
Member for that Borough?"
"I did."
"Had you a Connection with the Borough of Retford
previous to the Year 1818?"
"No."
"Do you know Mr. Mee?"
"Yes."
"Was he at that Time the Town Clerk of Retford?"
"I believe he was."
"Were you introduced to him?"
"Yes, I was."
"In consequence of being introduced to that Gentleman, were you also introduced to Mr. George Kippax?"
"I do not know. Mr. George Kippax became known
to me. I do not remember, at this Period of Time,
who introduced me to Mr. Kippax."
"Had you been acquainted with Mr. Kippax before
1818?"
"No."
"Did you deposit any Sum of Money with Mr. George
Kippax?"
"I believe I did."
"At whose Desire or Suggestion did you deposit
Money with him?"
"I do not recollect."
"What Sum of Money did you deposite with Mr. George
Kippax?"
"Three thousand Pounds, I believe, was the Sum. I
have not my Letter, or his Answer, I think."
"To the best of your Recollection, was that the Sum
you deposited?"
"Yes, I believe it was."
"As nearly as you can recollect, when did you so
deposite that Sum of Money?"
"I do not really recollect."
"Was it in the Year 1818?"
"Yes, it was in the Year 1818."
"Was it in the early Part of that Year?"
"I do not now recollect."
"Was it before the Election?"
"Oh yes; long before the Election; a considerable
Time before the Election; I do not know exactly how
long."
"For what Purpose was the Sum of £3,000 deposited
by you with Mr. Kippax?"
"I believe the Object, in depositing that Sum with
Mr. Kippax, was, that it might be known that I had
Money at my Disposal."
"Did you become acquainted, in the Year 1818, with
a Person of the Name of John Thornton; Mr. John
Thornton?"
"Yes, I did."
"How did you become acquainted with that Individual?"
"I believe-indeed I recollect, that Mr. Mee introduced me to Mr. Thornton, and he recommended
Mr. Thornton to me, as an honest Person whom I might
safely employ."
"For what Purpose did Mr. Mee so recommend him;
in what Capacity?"
"As a Man to be employed as an Agent at the ensuing
Election."
"Being so introduced to Mr. Thornton, what Communication did Thornton make to you as to the Mode in
which the Election was to be conducted?"
"I dare say he made a great many Communications
to me of that Nature. I do not quite understand the
Question."
"Was any Representation made to you by Mr. Thornton respecting the Voters?"
"I dare say there was; I do not doubt there was."
Mr. Alderson submitted, "That the Answer could not
be received unless the Witness could from his Recollection speak to the Fact."
The Witness was requested to attend particularly to
the Question, and see whether he could answer it more
precisely.
(Mr. Law.) "What Representation did Mr. Thornton
make to you with regard to the Conduct to be pursued
by you towards the Voters?"
"I really do not very well understand the Question.
A Person may make a very great Number of Observations about the Mode in which an Election should
be conducted. I do not know what Answer I ought
to give to that Question. I do not know exactly what
it is that it is wished to elicit."
"Did Mr. Thornton make any Representation to you
as to the Expectations of the Voters; what they would
expect you to do?"
"Yes, he did."
"What was that Representation?"
"He represented that the Voters would expect to be
paid."
"What did he represent to you they would expect
to be paid?"
"He stated that for many Elections the Voters had
received Twenty Guineas each."
"What did he represent with regard to your own
Election?"
"That they would expect to receive the same."
"Did Mr. Thornton distinguish between Plumpers and
single Votes?"
Mr. Adam objected to the Question.
The Counsel were informed, "That the Question did
not appear to be open to Objection;" and the Question
was put.
"He did."
"What Distinction did he make?"
"He said that a Person who gave a Plumper received
Double the Sum that the Person who gave a single Vote
received."
(By a Lord.) "Was the Twenty Guineas which you
spoke to, for a single Vote, or a Plumper?"
"For a single Vote."
(Mr. Law.) "And Double for a Plumper?"
"Yes."
"In consequence of the Communication made to you
by Mr. Thornton, did you appoint him your Agent?"
"I did."
"Was he at that Time resident at Retford?"
"He was."
"Were you in constant Correspondence with him upon
the Subject of your Election?"
"I had many Letters from him."
Mr. Alderson objected to the Question, as a leading
Question.
The Counsel were informed, "That the Question,
merely specifying the Subject of the Correspondence,
and not the Particulars, was not open to Objection."
(Mr. Law.) "Be so good as to state what Sum of
Money you expended in your Election in the Year
1818?"
"I believe I expended about £4,400; I think a little
more."
"Was there any Third Candidate?"
"There was no Third Candidate."
"Who was the other Candidate besides yourself?"
"Mr. Crompton."
"You have been requested to produce certain Papers,
and the first Paper I wish you to produce begins,
"Brought forward, Total Votes;" will you have the
goodness to produce that?"
"I believe I have that Paper; but, my Lords, may I
be allowed to plead that that Paper is a Paper containing, not a general List, but the Names of many
Individuals. I come here at your Lordships Summons.
I feel no Hesitation whatever in answering any Questions which relate only to myself, or any general
Questions; but I think that your Lordships must feel,
that it is the most painful and unpleasant Situation in
which any Man could be placed, after having represented a Borough in Two Parliaments, and after having
had the Confidence of the Burgesses; that if there is
any Offence in those Burgesses he should be the last
possible Person to accuse them of that. I cannot but
imagine your Lordships will think it is a particularly
painful Situation in which you place me, if you require
me to be the Accuser of those who treated me always
with perfect Confidence, and who, whatever may be
said against them in other respects, were true and
faithful to me, and of whom I am the last Person
who ought to be their Accuser. On that Account I
shall certainly take the Liberty of appealing to your
Lordships against producing any List of Names."
The Witness was informed, "That he was not standing
in the Situation of an Accuser; that he was brought
forward as a Witness in support of an Accusation."
(The Witness in continuation.)-"The Effect of the
Evidence I am called upon to give is exactly the same
as if I was bringing forward an Accusation. I may
have used an erroneous Term."
The Witness was informed, "That he must answer the
Questions which were put to him, unless they were
shewn to be open to Objection."
Mr. Law stated, "That he was instructed that the
Witness had not volunteered the Information, but had
merely attended in obedience to their Lordships Summons."
Mr. Adam submitted, "That the Paper in the Handwriting of the Witness was not made Evidence, and
could not be produced."
The Witness was directed to withdraw.
Mr. Law was heard in support of the Production of the
Paper.
The Counsel were directed to withdraw.
The Counsel were again called in.
Mr. Adam stated, "That he could make no Objection
to the Witness refreshing his Recollection by a Paper
he had written at the Time, but he submitted that the
Paper was not itself Evidence."
The Witness was again called in.
(Mr. Law.) "Have you with you the Paper to which
I have referred, by the Description I have already
given of it?"
"I have no Paper beginning with the Words used by
you."
"Have you a Paper which commences with the Words,
Promises, 161?"
"Yes, I have."
"Will you be good enough to state whether that
Paper is in your own Handwriting, looking at it for
the Purpose of informing yourself of that Fact?"
"Before I answer that Question, I would wish to ask,
whether the Answer I give to that Question decides
whether this Paper is to remain in the Custody of the
House of Lords or my own Custody?"
The Witness was informed, "That he must not put
Questions to the Counsel to decide whether he should
answer the Question or not."
"I apprehend I have no Choice about answering any
Question which your Lordships peremptorily desire me
to answer; but if I may be allowed to say another
Syllable about the Production of any Paper, I would
submit whether this is the Time at which I ought to
give it."
(By a Lord.) "Is that Paper in your own Handwriting?"
"It is."
(Mr. Law.) "Does that Paper which you so produce
in your own Handwriting contain Memoranda made
by yourself with reference to the Election?"
Mr. Adam objected to the Question; stating, "That
the Paper must speak for itself, if it should be made
Evidence; but that it was not yet made Evidence."
Mr. Law was heard in support of the Question.
Mr. Adam was heard in reply.
(By a Lord.) "Does that Paper relate to the
Election?"
"It does."
"Is it in your own Handwriting?"
"It is."
(Mr. Law.) As it relates to the Election, and is in
your own Handwriting, will you have the goodness to
look at that Paper, and I will put some Questions to
you?"
Mr. Adam submitted, "That the only Use which could
be made of this Paper was, that the Witness might
look at it, if he chose, for the Purpose of refreshing
his Memory."
Mr. Law submitted, "That if it contained a Declaration by the Party of his Conduct in reference to the
Election it was admissible in Evidence, and that therefore he was entitled to put Questions to the Witness,
calling upon him to refresh his Memory by Reference
to the Paper."
Mr. Adam submitted, "That the Paper was not Evidence; and that the Witness was at liberty to refer
to it, or to refrain from referring to it, in giving his
Evidence."
Mr. Alderson was heard in support of the Objection.
Mr. Law was heard against the Objection; and submitted, "That this must be treated as a written Declaration by a Co-conspirator."
Mr. Adam was heard in reply.
The Counsel and Witness were directed to withdraw.
The Counsel and Witness were again called in.
(By a Lord.) "Did this Paper you have been called
upon to take out of your Pocket ever pass into any
other Hands than your own?"
"I am afraid that I must answer that Question at
greater Length than I should wish to do. I received
an Order from your Lordships House to produce every
Paper, Book, Memorandum, Note-I do not recollect
all the Expressions-which I possessed respecting this
Election. I confess, when this Enquiry-I do not
mean the present Enquiry, but when first the Enquiry
was notified through the Newspapers in the other
House of Parliament, I did feel it would have been a
Comfort to me if I had burnt every Paper relating to
that Affair which I had; but after it was made public
there was to be an Enquiry, after a little Reflection,
I came to the Opinion that I ought not, knowing an
Enquiry before a competent Tribunal was to take place,
and not knowing whether I should be called or not,
to destroy my Papers; and I have not destroyed any.
I have not read them; but I left them as they were;
I did not destroy any of them. I dare say there are
many Persons will think I acted extremely improperly,
and will think that I may in some Way have compromised them: I may have done so. I gave the
Subject the best Consideration that I could give to it,
as to what I thought both honorable and right,
pending such an Enquiry; and I had thought, if I
should be asked by your Lordships House, or the other
House, whether I had ever had any Papers, and should
say that I had had them, if I was asked what had
become of them, and that I should say I heard there
was an Enquiry in the House of Lords, and I burnt
the Papers, that would not be a proper Act, or a
creditable Line of Conduct for me to pursue. With
respect to these Papers having been out of my Hands:
-I came up here in very difficult Circumstances;
there were a considerable Number of private Letters
of Persons not resident at Retford, and Persons not
Voters at Retford, and Persons not writing at all about
the Election, who, I believe, had some of them not
probably ever been at that Place; those were amongst
my Papers, but they related to the Election in such a
Way that, by the Terms of your Lordships Order, I
apprehended I must produce them, and bring them up
here. I could not tell what would be the Effect of
your Lordships Order. I had no Idea of making a
Defence before your Lordships, but I wished to explain
why those Papers had been out of my Hands. This
Paper has been out of my Hands; with such a Set of
Papers I could not tell that I could not be compelled
to produce them all. There were private Papers which
I think would not have implicated the Character of
those Individuals, but which might be all wanted
upon your Lordships Journals, and which might be
unpleasant to them. I threw myself completely into
the Hands of the Promoters of the Bill, in the first
place, so far as to say that I trusted they would not
require me, or ask me, to produce any Papers not
necessary to their Case. I could expect no Confidence
from them as to Papers being necessary for their Case,
unless I told them what those Papers were. I did see
the Agent for the Bill. It was impossible to read the
Papers while we remained together; therefore I left
the Papers in his Hands, because I thought in that
Way I should not be required to produce these private Letters, in case I might be required to produce
some. For that Reason I answer your Lordship's
Question in the Affirmative, that these Papers have
been out of my Hands."
"In what Light do you consider this Paper that you
are now called upon to produce?"
"That Paper is a Memorandum of my own, I believe.
The Object of it was to ascertain in some degree
the Correctness of some Part of the Accounts of my
Agent."
"Was it written during the Election, or after the whole
Proceedings were entirely over?"
"I know it must have been a considerable Time
after the Election was over; I cannot tell how long,
but a considerable Time after the Election was
over."
"Do you consider it, or not, as a private Memorandum?"
"I conceive it to be a private Memorandum."
The Counsel and Witness were directed to withdraw.
The Counsel were again called in; and informed,
"That in the Opinion of their Lordships the Paper
was not Evidence, but that the Witness might
refer to it to enable him to answer the Questions
correctly."
The Witness was again called in.
(Mr. Law.) "Have the goodness to refer to the Paper
in your Handwriting, and state how many Promises
you had in the Year 1818?"
Mr. Adam objected to the Question.
Mr. Law waived the Question.
(Mr. Law.) "How many Promises had you in the
Year 1818?"
"I can only answer that Question by a Reference to
some Paper; I cannot answer it without that Reference,
with perfect Certainty and Correctness."
"State to the best of your Belief how many Promises
you had in the Year 1818."
(Mr. Adam.) "What Paper are you now looking
at?"
"I was looking at that Memorandum."
The Witness was informed, "That having stated that
the Paper in his Hand was written long after the
Election, he must not look at it for the Purpose of
refreshing his Memory as to any Transaction which
passed at the Time of the Election, but that he must
rely upon his Memory, speaking with as much Precision
as was in his Power."
(Mr. Law) "What Sum of Money did you issue
to Mr. Thornton in reference to the Election of
1818?"
Mr. Adam submitted, "That the Witness should be
asked whether the Paper he was referring to was
written at the Time of the Transaction to which it
referred."
The Witness was informed, "That if he had any
Memorandum made at the Time when he advanced
Money to Thornton on account of the Election, he
might refresh his Memory by referring to it, but not
otherwise."
"I believe I have a Memorandum copied from some of
Mr. Thornton's own Letters, as Receipts for Money."
Mr. Adam objected to the Production of Copies of
Letters.
(By a Lord.) "Have you any Memorandum made
by yourself of the Advances you made?"
"I have."
(Mr. Law.) "State to the best of your Belief the
Amount of your Advances to Mr. Thornton in reference
to the Election of 1818?"
Mr. Adam requested, "That the Witness might be
asked whether the Paper to which he was now referring
was written at the Time of the Transaction."
(By a Lord.) "Was that Memorandum made at the
Time you advanced Money to Mr. Thornton?"
"I do not know whether your Lordships will think I
properly comply with the Orders of this House, if I
answer that Question; but I have, in a private Book
of my own, and not a Book containing an Account of
the Retford Election merely, certain Sums put which
had been charged to my Account at a Bank at which
I do my own Business. I could not take those Leaves
out; it was a Book containing private Accounts of my
own Income and Expenditure and Money paid, entered
in that Book; the only Thing it contained relating to
Retford was an Entry from my Banker's Passage Book,
which shewed the Sums that I had remitted to a Person
there, and I entered that Amount that I might know what
the Expences were; it was written in a very few Lines.
I did not bring up that Book, because it had never
passed out of my own Hands; I had never entered in
it any other Account of Things relating to Retford but
the Amount of this Sum; it had never gone into the
Hands of another Person. I therefore submit, that I
ought not to be called upon to produce that Book.
That which I hold in my Hand is a Copy from that
Book."
The Witness was informed, "That the Copy in his
Hand was not Evidence, and that the Original alone
could be referred to."
(Mr. Law.) "Without reference to any Papers or
Documents, speaking to the best of your Recollection,
what Sums did you advance to Mr. Thornton in reference
to that Election?"
"I should think, to the best of my Recollection, about
£2,700, but I cannot profess to speak very accurately."
"Were those Advances made previous to or subsequent
to the Writing of the Paper that has caused the Discussion here To-day; had you paid the Money to
Mr. Thornton, or was it in contemplation to pay him
the Money when that Minute you have last referred to
was made?"
"I believe the Money I have mentioned was sent to
Mr. Thornton before that Memorandum was made."
"Can you ascertain that Fact by reference to the
Paper to which you first referred, whether the Minutes
made on that Paper were made in contemplation of
sending a Sum of Money, or after such Sum of Money
was sent?"
"I think I have understood from your Lordships
House that I am not allowed to look at that Paper."
The Witness was informed, "That he was allowed to
look at the Paper in question."
The Witness referred to the same; and answered, "I
believe there can be no Doubt that this Memorandum
was made after the Sums had been so sent to
Mr. Thornton."
(Mr. Law.) "How soon after the Sums were sent to
Mr. Thornton do you believe that that was made?"
"I do not know."
Mr. Adam submitted this was a leading Question.
(Mr. Law.) "Will you specify to their Lordships the
Purposes to which Mr. Thornton was to apply the Money
you so advanced?"
Mr.Adam submitted, the Witness should be asked
whether that was communicated in Writing.
The Counsel were informed the Question might be put.
"I have no doubt the principal Object of remitting
the Money was to pay the Voters."
(Mr. Law.) "Will you state how many Voters it was
your Object to pay?"
"My Object was to pay all the Voters who had
promised me, and who chose to accept the Money."
"To the best of your Recollection and Belief, how
many Voters had so promised you?"
I believe about 163; I think a little more than 160;
but I am not sure."
"Were any of those Promises Plumpers?"
"One or Two, I think; One certainly."
"In transmitting Money to Mr. Thornton for the Payment of Voters, was it your Intention to distinguish in
the Manner you have described between single Votes
and Plumpers?"
"Not in transmitting the Money."
"With regard to the Application of Money, was it your
Intention that he should make a Distinction in the
Payment of Plumpers and single Votes?"
"Certainly."
"What Difference was he to make?"
"He was to pay Forty Guineas to Plumpers, and
Twenty to single Votes."
(By a Lord.) "Was the Sum you transmitted calculated for the Promises?"
"It was."
"Did you employ any Person except Mr. Thornton to
pay Money to the Voters?"
"Yes, I did."
"After the Election of 1818?"
"Yes, I did."
"Do you know Mr. Ward?"
"I do."
"Did you employ that Gentleman?"
"I believe I requested him to pay some Persons; some
Voters."
"Were they London Voters?"
"They were London Voters."
"How many were there in point of Number of the
London Voters?"
"I cannot answer that Question without Reference to
some Paper."
"Was this Paper drawn up by you with reference to
the Number of Voters that were to be paid, at the
Time, in contemplation of Payment; was it drawn up
to assist you in apportioning the Sums to be paid?"
"Certainly."
"Was this Paper drawn up by you to assist you in
apportioning the Sums to be paid to the several
Voters?"
"I really do not know. I thought it was not."
"Reconsider that Question, looking at that Paper in
your own Handwriting?"
(By a Lord.) "In order that you may give a safe and
secure Answer, having given Answers, as it appears,
conflicting with each other, you had better look at the
Paper."
"I have no Doubt I have made Memorandums for the
Purpose asked me by the Counsel."
"The Question put to you is with reference to that
particular Paper which has been described; was that
Paper drawn up for the Purpose of regulating the
Payment you were to make to the Voters?"
"I am really not clear about that. There is a Date
put upon it, which may have been put for a considerable Time; it is a Date that refers to another
Paper, which may have been put upon it there a considerable Time after the Paper was written; and I am
not clear about it."
"Cannot you tell from your Recollection of the
Election itself, and recal it to your Mind by looking at
the Paper, whether it was made for the particular
Purpose of guiding you in the Sums you were to
transmit to the Voters?"
"I am not at all clear about that; it might have been
made for that Purpose; it might have been made afterwards, for the Purpose of ascertaining whether some
further Sum was not necessary to be remitted after the
great Bulk of the Payments were made."
"It might have been made for the Purpose of regulating the Payments you were to make generally, or for
the Purpose of regulating some further Sum?"
"For the Purpose of ascertaining whether I had not
some further Sum to send to Mr. Thornton for this
Purpose."
(Mr. Law.) "Did you make any Memorandum in
Writing of the Names of the London Voters, for the
Purpose of paying them?"
"I wrote a Number of Names, who were London
Voters."
"Was that for the Purpose of paying them?"
"It must have been either for the Purpose of paying
them, or to ascertain whether they had been all paid;
whether the Payments were correct; it must have been
for one of those Purposes."
"Do you believe that the List of such Persons, at the
Time you made it, was correct?"
"I should suppose it was."
"What Proportion of Voters were to be paid by
Mr. Thornton; how many in Number?"
(Mr. Adam.) "To what Paper are you now looking?"
"I am looking at the first Memorandum."
Mr. Adam submitted, "That the Witness was not at
liberty to refer to the Memorandum in question."
(Mr. Law.) "Whether the Paper you have produced
was written before or after the Money issued for the
Payment of Voters, was that Paper written when the
Circumstances minuted down were fresh in your
Memory?"
Mr. Adam objected to the Question.
Mr. Law was heard in support of the Question.
(By a Lord.) "Was that Paper taken from any
thing else, or a Paper which you made as to the Sums
you paid; an original Paper?"
"I should think it must have been made from something else."
Mr. Law suggested, "That the Paper might be handed
in to their Lordships, as Papers were frequently handed
to the Judge, in order to enable them to determine
whether it was receivable in Evidence."
Mr. Adam submitted, "That the Paper could not be
handed to their Lordships."
The Counsel were informed, "That the Counsel in
support of the Bill being in Possession of a Copy of
this, it did not appear to be necessary that it should be
handed in."
(Mr. Law.) "Be good enough to state, to the best
of your Belief, how many Promises there were, both in
London and Retford?"
"I think I have stated there were somewhat more
than 160."
"Of that 160 or more, how many do you believe
were London Voters, according to the best of your
Recollection?"
"I believe about Twenty-six."
"Who was directed to pay Voters who were not
London Voters?"
"Mr. Thornton was directed to pay most of them."
"Was Mr. Thornton employed to pay the Retford
Voters, those resident there, only, or those who might
be also in the Neighbourhood of Retford?"
"I believe he was employed to pay those in the
Neighbourhood also."
"Did they amount to the Difference between Twentysix and One hundred and sixty-four, or thereabouts;
were they all the remaining Votes?"
"I believe not."
"How many Voters was Thornton to pay?"
(Mr. Adam.) "To what Paper are you now referring?"
"The Paper I was first asked to."
(Mr. Law.) "How many Voters were resident at
Retford?"
"My Impression is, that there were about 100 resident
at Retford."
"Twenty-six resident in London?"
"Yes."
"How many beyond those that live at Retford was
Mr. Thornton to pay?"
"I do not suppose he was to pay all the Hundred at
Retford; but that he had to pay about Forty, or
thereabout, who did not reside at Retford."
"How many did reside at Retford?"
"The Exceptions were not very numerous, I apprehend. I do not know the exact Number put forward."
"Did you know Mr. Foljambe at Retford?"
"I did not know Mr. Foljambe when I first went to
Retford."
"Did you transmit any Money to his Bank?"
"I believe I did."
"To what Amount?"
"I think the first Sum I remitted to his Bank was
£500."
"Will you refer to a Paper you were directed to
produce, intituled, "May 1819. List by Mr. Mee;"
then a Line, and then a "List of Voters paid by
Thornton jun." will you produce that Document?"
(By a Lord.) "Is Thornton junior the Thornton
employed as your Agent?"
"Yes; his Father was then living."
(Mr. Law.) "Have you a Paper in his Handwriting;
the Paper referred to by the Questions?"
"I have such a Paper. If your Lordships positively
require me to produce it, I cannot resist it. I certainly
entertain some Hopes your Lordships will not require
me to produce it."
(By a Lord.) "Was not Mr. Thornton, your Agent,
a Voter and Freeman?"
"Yes."
"Have you, in his Handwriting, a List of the Number
of Voters paid by him?"
"Yes; I have no Doubt it is his Handwriting."
"It was transmitted by him to you?"
"Yes."
(Mr. Law.) "Will you produce that Paper?"
(Mr. Adam) "Are you sure it is Thornton's Handwriting?"
"I have no doubt it is Thornton's Handwriting. I do
not know, at this Distance of Time, that I ever saw
Thornton write, but I perhaps did."
(Mr. Law.) "Did you constantly correspond with
him as your Agent?"
"I have had a good many Letters from him."
"Did you act upon those Letters?"
"Yes."
"Did you pay him Money upon them?"
"I did."
(By a Lord.) "Do you believe that Paper to be his
Handwriting?"
"I do."
The Witness was directed to produce the Paper in
question.
The Witness produced the Paper, and it was read as
follows:
"List of Voters paid by J. Thornton jun.
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1. Appleby, Robert.
2. Appleby, Thomas.
3. Butler, Thos, Mansfield.
4. Batty, Thos.
5. Bailey, Geo.
6. Booth, Tom.
7. Buxton, Thos.
8. Bailey, Geo. senr.
9. Baker, John, junr, Mansfield.
10. Bingham, Geo.
11. Butler, John.
12. Baker, Wm. Mansfield.
13. Bailey, James. junr.
14. Brown, Geo. Nottingham.
15. Banks, John.
16. Brown, Wm. junr.
17. Ball, Thos Bottomsell, a Plumper.
18. Banks, John. junr.
19. Burton, Wm.
20. Buxton, Saml.
21. Brummitt, Dowager.
22. Burton, Jno. junr.
23. Bower, John.
24. Birch, Richd, Nottingham.
25. Bailey, Wm, Mitton.
26. Bailey, Jas, Askham.
27. Baker, John.
28. Bayley, Jas, West Retford.
29. Butler, Thos.
30. Burton, John. senr.
31. Brown, Saml.
32. Bayley, Josph.
33. Banks, Josh.
34. Baker, Valn.
35. Brown, Edwd.
36. Banks, John, senr.
37. Charlton, Robt.
38. Crookes, Wm.
39. Cutler, Thos.
40. Crookes, Charles.
41. Clarke, Thos.
42. Cotton, Jas N.
43. Cartwright, Wm.
44. Cocking, Wm. |
45. Cocking, Geo.
46. Cutliff, Robt, Southwell.
47. Cuckson, Wm.
48. Clarke, Jas.
49. Clarke, John.
50. Dawber, John.
51. Drake, John.
52. Drake, Fras.
53. Denman, John, Twyford.
54. Dernie, Jas.
55. Deane, Isaac.
56. Elvidge, Wm.
57. Furley, Wm, Nottingham.
58. Fell, Revd Jno, Nottingham.
59. Grant, Wm.
60. Ginevar, Wm.
61. Hurst, Stepn, Stayley.
62. Hindley, Richd, Holme.
63. Hartshorne, Widow.
64. Hindley, Saml.
65. Hallis, Wm.
66. Hudson, Robt.
67. Hemsworth, Stepn.
68. Hemsworth, Wm.
69. Hoult, Henry.
70. Hudson, Thos.
71. Hodson, Wm. junr.
72. Hudson, Geo.
73. Hudson, John.
74. Haydock, Geo.
75. Hurst, Richd, Nottingham.
76. Hempsall, Thos.
77. Hodson, Wm.
78. Hoult, John.
79. Holliday, Thos.
80. Johnson, John.
81. Jubb, Uriah, Nottingham.
82. Jackson, Wm.
83. Kirkby, John, Nottingham.
84. Kirkby, Wm, Nottingham.
85. Leadbeater, Wm.
86. Lawrence, Stepn.
87. Lawrence, Thos.
88. Leak, Thos, Nottingham.
89. Leadbeater, Westby.
90. Leadbeater. George.
91. Marshall, Josph.
92. Mawer, Richd.
93. Ogle, Edwd, Nottingham.
94. Palmer, Wm.
95. Pashley, Robt.
96. Pierpoint, Wm, Lincoln.
97. Richardson, Jas. jun.
98. Rushby, Robt.
99. Richards, Jno, Widow.
100. Rayner, Josh, Nottingham.
101. Richardson, John.
102. Savage, John, jun.
103. Scott, Josh.
104. Scott, Benjn.
105. Savage, John.
106. Scott, Richd, Nottingham.
107. Scott, John.
108. Slaney, Thos.
109. Slaney, Broxn. |
110. Stevenson, Wm, Nottingham.
111. Shaw, John.
112. Tenny, John, Methwold, Norfolk.
113. Trueman, Wm, Clumber.
114. Tayler, Wm. junr, Mansfield.
115. Uttley, John.
116. Windle, John.
117. Watmough, Robt. jun.
118. Wright, Wm.
119. White, John, Hayton.
120. Worstley, Geo.
121. Wass, Mattw.
122. Willey, Thos.
123. White, John, Nottingham.
124. Wake, Wm.
125. Walker, John.
126. Mason, Mr. John.
127. Clarke, Mr. William, Plumper.
128. Cottam, William. |
"This List includes the last Two Voters, Hurst of Staley and Hindley
of Holme, that I had to settle with."
(Mr. Law.) "Are those Words, "This List includes
the last Two Voters, Hurst of Staley and Hindley of
Holme, that I had to settle with," in Thornton's Handwriting?"
"Yes."
"There is a Memorandum at the Bottom, in these
Words: "See my own List, which is as below, 123
single Votes, Two Plumpers; Total, 125. Add one
William Ginevar, ditto one R. Hindley, ditto one Stephen
Hurst, not included in my List. Total, 128." In
whose Handwriting are those Words?"
"Those Words are in my Writing."
"Do you produce a Paper, headed, "This Account
brought by Mr. Mee, May 1819"? and state to their
Lordships, whether that is not also in the Handwriting
of Mr. Thornton, your Agent."
"I have a Paper, dated May 1819, indorsed, "Thornton's Statement of his Account, sent by Mr. Mee."
"Look inside, and see whether that is Thornton's
Account, in his Handwriting?"
"Yes, it is Thornton's Handwriting. I state from
Recollection: the Period has long elapsed. I imagine
this Paper was brought to me by Mr. Mee while I was
in London; that he was the Bearer of it, in a sealed
Packet. I cannot state that positively."
"I find this Item in it: "128 Voters paid, including
Two Plumpers, as per List sent, £2,730?"
"Yes, I have that Entry."
"Did you allow that Sum of Money to Mr. Thornton;
Money advanced upon the Footing therein expressed,
of 128 Voters paid, including Two Plumpers, as per
List sent?"
"I believe I did."
"Have you any Doubt in your own Mind upon that?"
"No, I do not feel any Doubt that I did. I am not
certain whether there may have been any subsequent
Correction; but substantially that Sum was allowed,
I do not doubt."
"You observe in that Account the Words used, "as
per List sent;" is the other Paper to which your
Attention has been already called, which has been
handed in to their Lordships, that List so sent?"
"I suppose it is."
"Will you refer to a Paper headed "1819," a written
List of Voters paid by Thornton, and state in whose
Handwriting that Paper is? There is a List. There
are these Words: "Omitted in the Copy sent Thornton,
19th of April 1819, inclosing him £50, and desired he
would pay Stephen Hurst of Staley, and R. Hindley of
Holme." Did you make that Memorandum at the
Time, desiring he would pay those Persons?"
"I do not recollect that I have such a Paper. I did
not read these Papers. When I came to Town I
brought all the Papers I could find."
"Will you look at the List of Promises of 1820, and
state in whose Handwriting that is?"
"I have a Paper, endorsed, "List of Promises, 1820."
"Is that in Thornton's Handwriting?"
"Yes; I believe that is in Thornton's Handwriting."
"Was he at the Time your Agent for the Election of
1820?"
"Yes. I do not know whether this List was sent up;
but he was my Agent for the Election of 1820."
"Is that a List furnished by him to you in his Handwriting?"
"Yes."
"Do you find these Words in the List now produced:
"The following are a List of the independent Voters
that have promised you, and not included in the other
List?"
"Yes."
"Referring to them, do they amount to only Twelve;
the independent Votes?"
"They amount to Twelve Votes under that Head
here."
"Do the others, not mentioned as the independent
Voters, amount to 169?"
"I have not ascertained the Number; there are
Figures put 159 here."
"I find in the List the Words that follow: "Brummitt,
Dowager, Nottingham; he offered a Plumper, but you
did not know if you should accept of a Vote from him;
you would consider it." Have the goodness to explain
what is meant by your not accepting a Vote?"
Mr. Adam submitted, "That the Witness could not
explain what was meant by Thornton."
(Mr. Law.) "Is the Fact stated there correct, that
Dowager Brummitt offered you a Plumper, and you did
not know you should accept a Vote from him, but you
must consider of it?"
"I do not know at this Time."
"Did you know of Brummitt offering you a Vote?"
"If you were to ask me without this Paper, whether
Brummitt offered me a Vote, I should say I recollect
nothing at all about it."
(By a Lord.) "Did any thing pass between you and
Thornton, either before or after that Entry was made,
that led you to affix a particular Meaning to it?"
"I apprehend the Meaning is as clear as Noon-day."
"That is not an Answer to the Question."
"I do not recollect."
(Mr. Law.) "What did you understand to be the
Consequence of your not accepting a Vote to the
Voter; should you have to pay him any thing, unless
you accepted his Promise?"
"I believe not, certainly."
The List was delivered in, and read as follows:
"LIST of PROMISES, 1820.
1. Appleby, Josph, Liverpool.
2. Appleby, Thos, Retford.
3. Appleby, Robt.
Burton, Thos.
10. Baker, Thos, Worksop.
Batty, Thos, Retford.
Booth, Tom, Markham.
Buxton, Thos, Retford.
5. Bailey, George, Stone Hill.
Baker, Jno, jnr, Mansfield.
Barker, Jas. Manchester; says he
is a Plumper.
Bingham, Geo. Clayworth.
Butler, John, Retford.
Baker, Wm, Mansfield (now Retford).
Bolton, Danl, London.
9. Bailey, Jas Jno, Retford.
Brown, Geo. Nottingham; at the
Time a Pauper.
Banks, Jonn, Retford.
Banks, Josph; says he resides at
Nottingham, but is now at
Retford.
Banks, Jno, jnr, Retford.
Banks, Jno, snr.
Brown, Thos, Sheffield.
Brown, Wm, Retford.
Ball, Thos, Bottomsell; a Plumper.
Burton, Wm, Retford.
Buxton, Saml.
Benton, Jno, Mansfield.
Brummitt, Dowr, Nottingham; he
offered a Plumper, but you did
not know if you should accept
of a Vote from him; you would
consider it.
Brown, Robt, Manchester.
Burton, Jno, jnr, Retford.
Brown, Geo. Manchester.
Brown, Wm, London.
Brown, Jno, Retford.
Birch, Richd, Nottingham.
6. Bailey, Wm, Milton.
8. Bailey, Jas, Askam.
Baker, Jno, Retford.
7. Bailey, Jas, sr, West Retford.
Butler, Thos, Retford.
Burton, Jno, sr.
Brown, Saml.
4. Bailey, Josh.
Baker, Vale.
Brown, E. C.
Crookes, Jno, Wheatley.
Charlton, Robt, Stockport.
Crookes, Wm, Askam.
Cutler, Thos, Retford.
Crookes, Chas, Askam.
Clarke, Thos, Clarbro'.
Colton, Jas, N. Retford.
Cottam, Wm, Retford.
Cocking, Geo.
Cocking, Wm.
Cutliff, Robt, Southwell.
Cookson, Wm, Retford.
Clarke, Jas, Retford.
Clarke, Jno, Clarbro'.
Dawber, Jno, Retford.
Dixon, Thos, Glasgow.
Drake, Jno, Sound.
Drake, Fras, Do.
Denman, Jno, Taxford.
Dernie, Jas, Retford.
Deane, Jas, Do.
Dean, Js, jr.
Elvidge, Wm, Retford.
Evans, Thos, Sheffield.
Farley, Wm, Nottingham.
Freeman, Wm, Ranskill, now Misterton.
Golland, Edwd, London.
Golland, Wm, - Do. now at
Retford, ill.
Grant, Wm, London.
Green, Robt, Birmingham.
Goodlad, Isaac, London.
Goodlad, Jno, - Do.
Giniver, Wm, Retford.
Hartshorn, Geo. London.
Hindley, Saml, Retford.
Hollis, Wm, Sheffield.
Hemsworth, Step. Retford.
Hemsworth, Wm, Taxford.
Hoult, Hy, Retford.
Hindley, Richard, Holme near
Newark.
Hutchinson, Jno, Gringby Hill.
Hudson, Thos, Retford.
Hudson, Thos, R. H's Son, Do.;
dead since the Election.
Hurst, Step. Staveley.
Hodson, Wm, Retford.
Hudson, Geo.
Hudson, Jno, Claworth.
Hindley, Rd, Manchester.
Haydock, Geo. Retford.
Hurst, Richd, Nottingham.
Hempsall, Thos, Little Markham.
Hoult, Jno, Retford.
Holiday, Thos.
Anty Hartshorne, London; a
Plumper.
Johnson, Jno, Retford.
Jubb, Wt, Nottingham.
Jackson, Wm, Betford.
Kirkby, Jno, London.
Kirkby, Wm, Nottingham.
Leach, Wm, London.
Leadbeater, Wm, Retford.
Larance, Step.
Larance, Thos.
Leak, Edwd, London.
Leak, Thos, Nottingham.
Linigar, Jno, nr Sheffield.
Leadbeater, Westy, Retford.
Leadbeater, Geo. Norton, near
Gainsbro'.
Marshall, Josh, Tuxford.
Mawer, Richd, Retford.
Markham, Edwd, Tick Hill.
Mellors, Wm, London.
Ogle, Edwd, Nottingham.
Palmer, Wm, Retford.
Pashley, Robt.
Peerpoint, Wm, Lincoln.
Pinder, Jno, Sheffield.
Richardson, Jno, jr, Retford.
Rushby, Robt, Norbriggs Toll Bar.
Raynor, Josh, Nottingham.
Richardson, Jno, Retford.
Slaney, Geo.
Savage, Jno. jnr.
Scott, Jno.
Scott, Benjn.
Slaney, Thos.
Slaney, Broxm.
Savage, Jno. snr.
Scott, Richd, Basford.
Scott, Jos. Retford.
Strawson, Wm, Liverpool.
Straw, Jno, Retford.
Taylor, Jno, London.
Tenney, Jno, Methwold, nr Brandon, Norfolk.
Trueman, Wm, Clumber.
Taylor, Wm, Mansfield.
Taylor, Wm, London.
Utley, Jno, Retford.
Windle, Jno.
Watmough, Robt.
Wright, Wm, Mattersey.
White, Jno, Hayton.
Worstley, Geo. Retford.
Wass, Matthw, Riston.
Willy, Thos, Retford.
Wakefield, Wm, Manchester.
Wake, Wm, Mansfield.
Watmough, Christr, London.
Walker, Jno, Mansfield.
Willy, Jno, Retford.
Whittam, Geo.
Cartwright, Wm, Retford.
Mason, John, Aldn.
Clarke, W. Do.
Fell, Revd Jno, Huntington.
"The following is a List of the independent Voters that have promised
you, and not included in the other List:
Brownlow, Wm, London.
Booth, Revd Mr, Retford.
Haworth, W. R. London.
Wyldefield, Jers, Do.
Cottam, Aldn, Retford.
Benley, Do.
Thornton junr, Retford.
Marshall, - Do.
Ginever - Do.
Parker, Dr, - Do.
Thornton senr Do.
Meekly, - Do.
"Richard Scott is marked a Plumper in my Book.
"Is Strawson's Name Wm or Josh Jeffery?
"This List examined, and contains all the Names marked P. in my
Book."
"Have the goodness to state the Christian Name of
Mr. Ward, whom you have stated to be employed to
pay the London Voters?"
"I think his Name was Henry Ward; but he had
another Name that began with an N, and I do not
recollect what it is."
"Do you know where he resides at present?"
"No."
"Where did you last see him?"
"I have not seen him for many Years."
"Have you corresponded with him?"
"No."
"Do you know where he is to be found?"
"No."
"Did you issue any and what Sum of Money to him
for the Payment of the London Voters?"
"I certainly sent him some Money to pay London
Voters with; I think Six or Seven hundred Pounds."
"Did you employ any other Person besides your Agent
Thornton and Mr. Ward, for the Payment of Voters?"
"Yes."
"Have the goodness to state the Names of the Parties
you so employed?"
"I believe I requested my Brother to take Means to pay
some Voters who resided at a Distance from Retford?"
"What is your Brother's Christian Name?"
"Samuel."
"Where does that Gentleman reside?"
"At Derby."
"Is he there now, to the best of your Belief?"
"I believe so."
"How many Voters did you authorize him to pay?"
"I do not recollect; a very few."
"Will you be good enough to produce a Letter received by you, dated the 6th of February 1819, from
Mr. Thornton, another of the 7th, another of the 17th,
and another of the 27th of the same Month, in the
same Year; is that of the 6th of February in
Mr. Thornton's Handwriting?"
"Yes, it is."
"Was that received by you in due Course of Post
after the Time it bears Date?"
"Yes."
The same was delivered in, and read as follows:
"Retford, 6th Feb. 1819.
"Dear Sir,
"I have this Day received Four Covers containing
Halves of Bank Notes to the Amount of £2,000. Shall
pay due Respect to your Cautions in paying the Money.
Mr. Crompton has just paid all the Freemen in and
near Retford, according as they promised; for a single
Vote has given 20 Guineas, and for a Plumper he has
paid 40 Guineas.
"There is no Freeman in the List herewith sent but
what is entitled to vote, except Mr. I. Fell, the Father
of The Rev. Mr. Fell. The late Mr. Hartshorne's Name
is not in the List; but I am informed that Mr. C. has
sent his Widow 20 Guineas. There is dead, since the
Election, Wm. Brown senr, of London, and Jno Richards
of this Town. It is customary to pay the Widows the
same as if their Husbands were now living, and Mr. C.
has paid Richards' Widow 20 Guineas.
"The List inclosed contains the whole that promised
you, both in Retford and all other Places; and I have
marked against those whom I should suppose would
not accept of any thing; and by which List appears
147 Voters to pay, amongst which are Four Plumpers.
I think you will find my List correct.
"I remain, dear Sir,
"With the greatest Respect,
"Your faithful obedient humble Servant,
"Jno Thornton jun."
"What is the List referred to in that Letter; is that
one of those already produced?"
"I believe it is one which has been produced."
"Is the Letter of the 7th February in Mr. Thornton's
Handwriting?"
"I believe it is."
"The same was delivered in, and read as follows:
Retford, 7th February 1819.
"Dear Sir,
I had not Time Yesterday to consider what you said
respecting the Out-Voters; but, upon Consideration,
don't you think it would not be better for you to remit
me for the whole of the Voters, (except those in
London, or any particular ones you would wish to get
paid yourself;) and will thank you to send me a List
of the Names of such as you wish to get paid yourself.
"Most of the Freemen at a Distance from Retford
have Friends here, who they generally authorize to
receive it; and I have had some Applications to that
Effect since Mr. C. has paid.
"I have no Doubt but I can get the Money paid
without their knowing from whom it came. You will
see by the List I Yesterday sent, that £2,000 will not
be sufficient to pay the Voters in Retford and the
adjoining Towns, with Nottingham and Mansfield. As
soon as it is known that any Part had got the Money, I
should almost be pulled to Pieces by those who had not
received any. On the opposite Side is a List of the
Freemen residing in London at this Time that will
expect the Money. Mr. C. has this Day sent a Person
over to Nottingham, Mansfield, and other distant Places,
to pay the Voters.
"I am, dear Sir,
"With the greatest Respect,
"Your very faithful and obedient humble Servant,
John Thornton jun.
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| John Taylor, |
No. 22, St Swithin's Lane, Lombard Street. |
| Geo. Slaney, |
Wr Leach, No. 44, Gray's Inn Lane, Wilson Place.
Danl Bolton, White Cross Street.
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| Edwd Golland, |
No. 32. York Street, Blackfriars Road. |
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Wm Golland, |
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| Wm Brown senr, Widow, |
No 42, James Street, Oxford Street. |
| Wm Brown junr. |
Wm Mellors, No. 38, Norfolk Street, Strand.
Wm Taylor, Patriot Street; works at the India House.
Crisr Watmough, Mulberry Court.
Anthy Hartshorne, a Plumper, Plumber Row, Whitechapel.
Edwd Leah, in the Foot Guards; was at the Time of canvassing at
No. 2, Dolop Court, Broadway.
"If any of the above Addresses is not correct, any one of the rest will
give Information."
"Have the goodness to produce the Letter of the
17th February 1819. Is that Mr. Thornton's Handwriting?"
"Yes, I believe it is."
"And the Inclosure?"
"Yes."
The Letter and Inclosure were delivered in, and read as
follow:
Retford, 17th February 1819.
"Dear Sir,
"In my last I informed you that you had misunderstood me respecting the joint Bills betwixt you and
Mr. C. The Amount of each that I sent you was for the
Whole; you had only to pay Half of the Sums named.
You will see by the inclosed Statement, that I shall have
a Balance of £210 10s. 8d., instead of £134 2s. 4d.,
as stated in your Letter of the 8th Instant.
"I have not yet paid Clark any thing, as you should
refer it to Mr. Mee. Josph Marshall - I only sent
him for One Vote he promised you. When he was at
work upon the Road, he afterwards wished to be a
Plumper. I always avoided giving him a direct
Answer, except that you did not wish to have any more
than One Vote. I recollect mentioning the Circumstance to you at the Election.
"The Money has been paid to all the Freemen that I
have had to pay in such a Way as it is not possible that
any Proof can ever be made of its coming from you.
Mr. Fox has been with me respecting the Bill at the
White Hart, the House where Mr. C. was at; and
likewise a Bill of Jackson's, that lived in a Village
about Two Miles off. I told him we had nothing to do
with either of them. He said he should write to you
upon the Subject. As for the Bill at the White Hart,
I think Mr. C. would never suppose that you would
have any thing to do with any Expence that he might
incur at the House he was at. He never could think
that you would expect him to pay any Part of any
Expence that might be incurred at the House you was
at. I have paid the whole of Mr. Dawber's Bill. The
Reverend Mr. Fell, I did not know what to say respecting him, whether you could make him the
Present; therefore I included him as one. Miss
Cocking has spoke to me about her Bill. She says she
has lost the Account of the Particulars that the Chair
was dressed with; she leaves it with you to pay her
what you think proper, as she says she cannot think of
making out another Bill. £15, or even £12, would
be quite sufficient; her Bill was charged £20 6s.
Grant, I have no doubt, will in a little Time be ready
to accede to any Sum you would wish to pay him.
You omitted Mr. Dawber and Miss Cockings in your
Statement of the 8th Instant, which says, I should
have a Balance of £134; 2s. 4d. when all the Bills
are paid except Grant's. The Receipts for the Bills I
have paid I will send at any Time you require them.
"I have just received a Letter from Benton of Mansfield, saying he had received Mr. C's Money; and
adds, that a Person was at Mansfield, Monday last,
and paid the Freemen, as he supposes, for you, but
the Person forgot to call upon him. He says he
promised you both; and that you sent him a Basket
of Game on the 14th of November. He says, had
not you thought him a Friend, you would not have
sent it. He says there must be some Mistake, and
begs me to inquire into it.
"I am, dear Sir,
"With the greatest respect,
"Your ever faithful obedient humble Servant,
"John Thornton jun."
Dr. J. Thornton in Account with W.Evans, Esq. Cr.
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"I have the above Balance in my Hands, with
the Exception of Ten Pounds that I lent to
Grant on a Note which has not yet been brought
into the Accounts. There is only Grant's Bill
and Miss Cockings to pay."
"Did you allow to Mr. Thornton, in Account, that
Sum of £2,562 for the 121 Voters, including
Mrs. Hartshorne for One Vote, and Thomas Ball a
Plumper?"
"I believe I did."
"Have you a Letter of the 27th February, in the
same Year, beginning, "In the List of 147 Voters?"
"I have such a Letter, but it is not of that Day."
The same was delivered in, and read as follows:
"Dear Sir, "Retford, February 24th, 1819.
"Dear Sir,
"In the List of 147 Voters that I sent you, including
Four Plumpers, I did not include Mrs. Hartshorne,
which would make 148 and the Four Plumpers, and
it would make 152 to pay. You deducted for The
Rev. Mr. Fell, and One Vote from Josph Marshall;
then there remained 150 to pay. Deduct Twenty-six
Votes you intend getting paid yourself, and there
remained for me to 124 Votes, which is the Number
I have paid, amounting in the whole to £2,604 Os. 0d.
You say you had included Mrs. Hartshorne. I think,
if you will refer to your List, and compare it with
mine, you will find Mrs. H. is omitted.
"I hope you have arranged about the Out-Voters that
you intend paying yourself, as I have Applications
from one or other of them every Day. Brown of
Manchester is this Day come over here to apply for
his.
"The Money has been paid in so secret a Manner,
that I cannot give a direct Answer to their Applications. I have now a Balance in my Hands of
£168 10s. 8d. Take off Grant's £10 that I lent him
(which I shall take care to stop when his Bill is paid),
and the Balance in my Hands is £158 10s. 8d. I
paid Mr. Clark, for his Two Votes, this Day, (which
is included in the above List,) according to Mr. Mee's
Advice.
"I am, dear Sir,
"With the greatest Respect,
"Your obedient humble Servant,
"John Thornton jun."
"Have you a Letter of the 21st of April 1819?"
"I have."
"Is it in Mr. Thornton's Handwriting?"
"I believe it is."
The same was delivered in, and read as follows:
Dear Sir, "Retford, 21st April 1819.
"Dear Sir,
"In looking over the List of Voters that you inclosed
me, I find you have omitted Wm Ginever, a Relation
of Mr. Alderman Ginever's, who I have paid, which
will make the Number of 126 Voters that I had paid,
including Two Plumpers, which will make the Sum of
£2,688 0s. 0d. You state the Balance in my Hands
to be £70 1s. 8d. Take off £21 for Wm Ginever,
omitted in your List, and Ten Pounds that I have lent
to Grant, and the Balance in my Hands would be
£39 1s. 8d.; which agrees with my Accounts. Taylor
of Mansfield has been paid. I received the inclosed
Fifty Pound Bank Note; and have this Day settled
with Hurst of Stayley, and shall settle with Hindley of
Holme as soon as possible. Mr. Mee I expect will
be in Town on or about the 3d of May. I will send
a regular Account of what I have paid, &c. by him;
and any Explanation that may be required he will be
able to give you.
"I am, dear Sir,
"With the greatest Respect,
"Your faithful obedient humble Servant,
"John Thornton junr.
"Mr. G. Kippax is in Town, and I expect he will call
upon you."
(Addressed) "Wm. Evans Esq. M. P.
"181, Piccadilly,
"London."
"Have you a Letter of the 17th May 1819?"
"I have."
"Is that in Mr. Thornton's Handwriting?"
"I believe it is."
The same was delivered in, and read as follows:
"Retford, 17th May 1819.
"Dear Sir,
"I am glad that you found all the Accounts correct;
it has always been my Study to keep them so. As to
what you would give me for my Trouble, I am at a
Loss to state what would remunerate me for it. For
the Anxiety I had before the Election is more than
you possibly could conceive; and the Time taken up
both before and since was a great deal more than I
expected. I am afraid I shall likewise lose a good
deal of Money by trusting a many of the Burgesses in
expectation of having it in my Power to stop when
they were settled with; on account of their being
paid in a secret Manner I had not the Opportunity of
doing it. Mr. Mee was the Person who first spoke to
me to undertake the Management for you. I refer
myself to him to say what would be a fair Remuneration for the Trouble, &c. that I have been at. I
shall always feel anxious to render you any Service that
lays in my Power. Grant I have no doubt will be
glad to accept the Money offered him. The Custom
of £2 2s. to each of the Jurys you would, I suppose,
wish me to pay as usual.
"I am, dear Sir,
"With the greatest Respect,
"Your ever faithful obedient humble Servant,
"John Thornton jun."
(Addressed) "William Evans Esq. M.P.
"No. 181, Piccadilly,
"London."
"Have you a Letter of the 1st of February 1818?"
"I have."
"Is that Thornton's Handwriting?"
"Yes; I believe it to be so."
The same was delivered in, and read as follows:
"Sir,
"I wrote you an Account that Mr. Fox gave a Dinner
to Mr. Crompton's Friends on Thursday last. I thought
it adviseable for me to go, as I had an Invitation, to
prevent them from raising any Jealousy amongst the
Burgesses, which I thought they would if I had not
gone. There was nothing of any Consequence transpired when I closed my Letter; but after, Mr. Fox
gave the Health of The Duke of Newcastle, and spoke
so much in his Praise, that the Freemen began to be
jealous that Mr. Crompton had come in the Duke's
Interest; and I can assure you I never saw such Confusion in my Life. They had a great deal to do to
explain themselves to the Satisfaction of the Freemen.
Many said they felt themselves at liberty; and asked
me if Mr. Evans would accept of Plumpers. I answered
you only wanted Support for yourself; but if they
offered you Plumpers I did not think you would refuse
them. As for the Dinner on Monday, you saw all
the Quarrelling there was; all was conducted in a
peaceable and quiet Manner. The House was cleared
before Eleven o'Clock; and all went away perfectly
satisfied, except a little Grumbling about Mr. Kirke.
I have not seen Mr. Kirke since I received yours, but
I shall take care to deliver your Message. I gave your
Respects to Mr. Kippax, and told him you would write
to him soon.
"The Duke's Steward has been at Retford, to those
who wished to be assured of his Grace's Wishes, and
they are satisfied. Mr. Ginever and Mr. Marshall, I
understand, either has or intends writing to you. You
may now rely upon the whole of the Duke's Friends
giving you their Support. Mr. Aldn
Bailey told me
this Morning he was satisfied, and should give you his
Support. I have also got the Promise of Mr. Jon
n
Banks of Retford (his Father and Two Brothers
promised you upon your Canvass), George Bailey of
Askham, and also by their Father, Brocksholm Slaney,
for his Two Sons in London, John Taylor and George
Slaney. Raynor and Birch of Nottingham also promised before they left Retford Yesterday. It is the Sun
Paper which you are to send, as per my last Letter;
Mr. Crompton sends the Times Paper. Mr. Crompton
has subscribed Five Guineas to the National School;
he has also subscribed to the Sick Clubs in the Town.
That you may consider of, as it is not immediately
required.
"I remain, Sir,
"With the greatest Respect,
"Your obedient humble Servant,
"Retford "John Thornton jun.
"Retford,
"7th Feb. 1818.
"If any thing of consequence transpires, I shall take
care to inform you."
(Addressed) "William Evans Esq.
"Darley,
near Derby."
"Have you a Letter dated the 1st of March 1820?"
"I have."
"Is that Mr. Thornton's Handwriting?"
"Yes."
The same was delivered in, and read as follows:
"Retford, 1st March 1820.
"Dear Sir,
"Parliament being now dissolved; and if the Writs
left London this Day, I don't think it possible that the
Election can take place before Tuesday next. The
Mail from London does not reach Nottingham until
after Two o'Clock the next Day; therefore the Precept will hardly get here in Time for the Election to
be proclaimed the same Day; if it does, the Election
may be on Monday. I think it would be advisable for
you not to reach here before Sunday Evening, and
that rather late. Mr. Crompton, I believe, intends
doing the same. I have had some Conversation with
Mr. Fox, respecting treating, if it cannot be avoided,
upon the same Plan as you proposed; but he seems
quite averse to it. I understood from him that Mr. Foljambe will write to you respecting the Election Dinner,
&c.
"I think you had better take a split Vote from
Brummitt; and you cannot well refuse any of the
other Nottingham Voters that have promised."
"I am, dear Sir,
"Your obedient humble Servant,
"J. Thornton junr.
"I did not tell Mr. Fox any thing respecting your
Brother sending a Person over."
(Addressed) "William Evans Esq.
"Post Office,
"Stamford."
"Have you a Letter dated the 10th of May 1820?"
"I have."
"Is that Mr. Thornton's Handwriting?"
"Yes, it is."
The same was delivered in, and read as follows:
"Retford, 10th May 1820.
"Dear Sir,
"I have this Day received by the Mail a Box containing 150 Halves of Bank Notes for £20 each.
"You may rely upon the greatest Secrecy being
observed. I suppose you mean to do the same as the
last Time. If you settle with those in London, Manchester or any other Places, be so good as to let me
have a List of them.
"I am, dear Sir,
"With the greatest Respect,
"Your obedient humble Servant,
"J. Thornton jun."
(Addressed) "William Evans Esq. M.P.
"No. 24, Charles Street,
"St. James's Square,
"London."
"12th May. Answered; and sent List of all London
Voters, and of Three Manchester, and Green of Birmingham."
"Is that at the Bottom a Memorandum you made on
the Letter yourself at the Time?"
"Yes."
"Looking at that, can you say whether you did send
a List in the Terms stated?"
"Yes; I have no doubt I sent a Letter corresponding
with that Memorandum."
"Have you a Letter dated the 16th of May 1820?"
"I have."
"Is that in Mr. Thornton's Handwriting?"
"It is."
The same was delivered in, and read as follows:
"Retford, May 16, 1820.
"Dear Sir,
"All in Retford have been settled with in a Way that
they do not know from whom they received it. The
late Thomas Hudson, R. H's Son, in the List, I did not
think proper to pay any thing, until I have your
Sanction. He has a Father, Mother, and Brothers and
Sisters. His Father is a Man of some Property. He
has some other Sons that will be Freemen. What
would you have me do respecting it?
"William Golland of London is still at Retford, very ill,
and not likely to recover.
"I do not intend settling any thing with Matthew
Wass of Kirton, for Reasons you know.
"Thomas Ball of Bottomsell is down in the List a
Plumper. I suppose you mean him to be as such, as
he promised it. If you recollect, I told you I advised
him to give One to Mr. C., which he would not accept.
"I should certainly not take Dowr Brummitt of Nottingham as a Plumper, but I think it would be advisable
to take him as a single One.
"George Brown of Nottingham (I believe you said
you had let him have something) promised, but at the
same Time was a Pauper, and is down in the List as
such. He called upon me this Day, to say he had left
Nottingham. Is any thing to be done respecting him,
as he is not entitled to any thing?
"John Dixon, residing in this Town, Brother to Thomas
Dixon of Glasgow, spoke to me (I gave no direct
Answer), saying he had Authority from his Brother to
receive any thing that his Brother might be entitled
to. You perhaps will recollect him saying something
to you on this Subject before the Election. What
would you have me do respecting him?
"Address to Robert Green, Scale Beam Maker, No. 19,
Balsall Street, Birmingham, I believe will be correct.
"I shall be obliged by your Answer as soon as possible,
as Mr. C. has had a Person here giving Notes, signed,
from a Yorkshire Friend, and is now gone to the
distant Towns. I expect my Friend here again, for
the same Purpose, in a Day or two.
"The Reverend Mr. Fell I suppose is to be the same
as the last Time.
"I received the inclosed Note from Mrs. Grant, but
do not intend answering it unless you wish it.
"I remain, dear Sir,
"With the greatest Respect,
"Your obedient humble Servant,
"J. Thornton jun."
(Addressed) "William Evans Esq. M. P.
"Bank,
"Derby."
"Have you a Letter of the 27th of May 1820?"
"I have."
"Is that also in Thornton's Handwriting?"
"It is."
The same was delivered in, and read as follows:
"Retford, May 27, 1820.
"Dear Sir,
"I received yours, inclosing Lord Sidmouth's Answer
to the Petition you presented respecting Storrs. The
Petitioners are much obliged to you for the Trouble
you have taken respecting it.
"I have settled with all except Three, that is at a
Distance. I have just got their Address, and shall
settle with them immediately, by Post. Thomas Hudson,
R. H's Son, died since the Election, and I understand
his Father has received from the Yorkshire Friend. I
suppose he must be done the same; but shall wait
your Answer. I only returned Home Yesterday with
the Friend I got to settle with those in the Villages,
Nottingham, Mansfield, Sheffield, &c. I saw them all
settled with, without them seeing me. I will write the
Particulars in a few Days; and I remain,
"Dear Sir,
"Your obedient humble Servant,
"J. Thornton jun."
(Addressed) "William Evans Esq. M. P.
"No. 24, Charles Street,
"St. James's Square,
"London."
"Can you state where Mr. Ward resided at the Time
you employed him to pay the London Voters?"
"You say I employed him. He resided, I believe, in
a Street going out of Cheapside; a small Street."
"What was he by Profession?"
"He was a Merchant."
"Can you state the Street, or whether he had any
Partner?"
"I think he had no Partner."
"What was the Nature of his Commercial Transactions?"
"I think he was a Wholesale Druggist, and also had
Foreign Business-a Commission Business, and that
he used to have Goods on Commission."
(By a Lord.) "What was the Name of the Street?"
"I ought to know, but it does not occur to me at this
Moment."
"How far was it from St. Paul's; on which Side of
the Way?"
"It was on the Right Hand Side."
"Was that Gentleman a Stranger to you?"
"No; he was not a Stranger to me."
"Was that the only Occasion on which you engaged
his Assistance and Service?"
"The only Occasion on which I engaged his Assistance
and Service in any thing relating to Retford. I believe
I asked him to canvass the Retford Voters, before that;
I asked him to see some of them, when first I went to
Retford."
"Did you employ him on both Elections, or only
one?"
"One."
"Whom did you employ to pay the London Voters on
the other Election?"
"I believe I employed a Friend of mine, whose Name
is Ewbank."
"What is his Christian Name?"
"Henry."
"Where does he reside?"
"He has an Office in Mincing Lane; he resides in
Surrey."
"Which Election was that; in 1818 or 1820?"
"I think in 1820."
"What Sum of Money did you issue to Mr. Ewbank
for the Payment of Voters?"
"I do not know."
"How many Voters, to the best of your Recollection,
did you engage him to pay; were there as many as Ten
or a Dozen?"
"I really do not know. I should think probably
about the same Number as the previous Election."
"What Sum did you direct him to pay each Voter?"
"The same Sum, I have no doubt."
"Does that mean the Twenty Guineas?"
"Yes."
"Can you mention any other Gentleman, besides
Mr. Ewbank and Mr. Ward, whose Services you engaged
for the Payment of Voters in London or elsewhere?"
(Mr. Adam.) "What Paper is that in your Hand;
was it made at the Time of the Election?"
"No."
(Mr. Law.) "Was there no other Person whom you
employed to pay Voters, in London or elsewhere, besides
Thornton, Ewbank and Ward?"
"I think there was a Gentleman who resided near
Sheffield, who is now dead."
"What was his Name?"
"Shore."
"You do not remember any others?"
"No."
"Were you a Candidate for Retford after the Election
of 1820?"
"No."
"At the Elections of 1818 and 1820, there was no
Opposition from any Third Candidate?"
"No."
"Have the goodness to state your Reason for not again
presenting yourself at Retford?"
"My Reason for not again standing for Retford was,
that I had some Doubts of this Practice."
"Will you explain what you mean by your having
some Doubts of the Practice?"
"It will be very difficult perhaps entirely to defend
the Practice; but it was notorious, and very well known,
that no Person would be elected, or had been elected
for many Parliaments, on other Principles."
"Mr. Adam submitted this was no Answer to the Question.
"Then my Answer was, that after a Consideration of
that Case, which I had not made before, and a Consultation with a particular Friend of mine, whether it was
allowable, whether I could rightly do such a Thing or
not, I decided that I should not do it; and therefore I
did not stand for that Place."
"(By a Lord.) "Was it necessary to consult with a
Friend for the Purpose of coming to such a Conclusion?"
"Perhaps your Lordship will not insist upon an Answer
to that Question."
"Was then your Reason your Dislike to the Practice,
and the Impression that you could not obtain an Election
in any other Manner, that which made you give it up?"
"I had no other Reason; for I did not apprehend I
could obtain a Seat at less Expence; nor did I expect
that I should have any Opposition if I stood for Retford.
"I did not communicate my Intention to the People at
Retford; and I never gave them any Reason, because I
apprehended I could not, with any Propriety, give them
that Reason; and I did not choose to give them any
Reason that was not the real one."
The Witness was directed to withdraw.
The Counsel were directed to withdraw.
"Ordered, That the further Consideration and Second
Reading of the said Bill be put off to Monday next; and
that the Lords be summoned.
Adjourn.
Dominus Cancellarius declaravit præsens Parliamentum
continuandum esse usque ad et in diem Martis, quartum
diem instantis Maii, horâ undecimâ Auroræ, Dominis sic
decernentibus.