Die Veneris, 14 Maii 1830.
DOMINI tam Spirituales quam Temporales præsentes
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Epus. Lich. et Cov.
Epus. Rapoten.
Vicecom. Duncan.
Vicecom. Melville.
Vicecom. Lorton.
Vicecom. Granville.
Ds. Teynham.
Ds. Boyle.
Ds. King.
Ds. Monson.
Ds. Holland.
Ds. Sundridge & Hamilton.
Ds, Lyttelton.
Ds. Calthorpe.
Ds. De Dunstanville & Bassett.
Ds. Rolle.
Ds. Bayning.
Ds. Bolton.
Ds. Fitz Gibbon.
Ds. Carbery.
Ds. Dufferin & Claneboye.
Ds. Dunalley.
Ds. Ellenborough.
Ds. Arden.
Ds. Barham.
Ds. Mont Eagle.
Ds. Hill.
Ds. Churchill.
Ds. Glenlyon.
Ds. Delamere.
Ds. Bexley.
Ds. Penshurst.
Ds. Somerhill.
Ds. Farnborough.
Ds. Feversham.
Ds. Durham.
Ds. Wallace. |
Comes Bathurst, Præses.
Comes Rosslyn, C. P. S.
Dux Richmond.
Dux Rutland.
Dux Newcastle.
Dux Wellington.
March. Lansdowne.
March. Salisbury.
March. Bute.
March. Camden.
March. Anglesey.
March. Cleveland.
Comes Winchilsea & Nottingham.
Comes Chesterfield.
Comes Shaftesbury.
Comes Rosebery.
Comes Ferrers.
Comes Stanhope.
Comes Hardwicke.
Comes De Lawarr.
Comes Radnor.
Comes Hillsborough.
Comes Norwich.
Comes Mansfield.
Comes Carnarvon.
Comes Wicklow.
Comes Caledon.
Comes Minto.
Comes Verulam.
Comes Brownlow.
Comes Morley.
Comes Bradford.
Comes Glengall.
Comes Eldon.
Comes Falmouth.
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PRAYERS.
Lindsay v. Jaffray & Mercer.
The Answer of William Jaffray junior and William
Mercer to the Petition and Appeal of William Lindsay
was this Day brought in.
Sir J. Montgomery et al. v. M. of Queensberry, & Selkrig.
After hearing Counsel fully in the Cause wherein Sir
James Montgomery Baronet, and others, are Appellants,
and Charles Marquess of Queensberry and Charles Selkrig
are Respondents:
It is Ordered, That the further Consideration of the
said Cause be put off to Monday the 24th of this instant
March.
Bruce v. Bruce.
Ordered, That the Cause wherein James Carstairs Bruce
Esquire is Appellant, and Thomas Bruce Esquire is Respondent, be taken into further Consideration on Monday
the 24th of this instant May; and that a Copy of the Deed
of Entail, referred to in the said Appeal, be laid before
the House.
Stewart v. Fullarton et al.
Ordered, That the Cause wherein Frederick Campbell
Stewart Esquire is Appellant, and Stewart Murray Fullarton Esquire, and others, are Respondents, be taken into
further Consideration on Monday the 24th of this instant
May; and that a Copy of the Deed of Entail of the
Ascog Estate, referred to in the said Appeal, be laid before
the House.
Munro & Rose v. Drummond et al.
Ordered, That the Cause wherein Mrs. Catharine Munro
and Hugh Rose her Husband are Appellants, and Andrew
Berkeley Drummond Esquire, and others, are Respondents,
be taken into further Consideration on Monday the 24th
of this instant May.
Mullins et al. v. Townsend.
After hearing Counsel, in Part, in the Cause wherein
The Honorable Edward Mullins, and others, are Appellants, and John Townsend Esquire is Respondent:
It is Ordered, That the further Hearing of the said
Cause be put off to Monday next.
Morgan v. Evans et al. et e con: Petitions of all Parties for further Time for their Cases, referred to Appeal Com ee.
Upon reading the Petition of Francis Morgan, Appellant in a Cause depending in this House, wherein Herbert
Evans, and others, are Respondents, et e contra; praying
their Lordships, "That further Time may be allowed him
until the first Day of the next Session of Parliament,
or such other Day as to their Lordships, in their great
Wisdom, shall seem proper, for laying the Print of his
Case in both the said Appeals upon the Table of their
Lordships House:"
It is Ordered, That the said Petition be referred to the
Committee appointed to consider of the Causes in which
Prints of the Appellants and Respondents Cases, now
depending in this House in Matters of Appeals and
Writs of Error, have not been delivered, pursuant to the
Standing Orders of this House.
Upon reading the Petition of John Jenkins and Philip
Hurd, Two of the Respondents in the last-mentioned
Cause; praying their Lordships, "That further Time
until the first Day of the next Session of Parliament,
or such other Time as to their Lordships, in their great
Wisdom, shall seem proper, may be allowed the Petitioners for laying the Print of their Cases in the abovementioned Appeals upon the Table of their Lordships
House:"
It is Ordered, That the said Petition be referred to the
Committee appointed to consider of the Causes in which
Prints of the Appellants and Respondents Cases, now
depending in this House in Matters of Appeals and
Writs of Error, have not been delivered, pursuant to the
Standing Orders of this House.
Upon reading the Petition of Herbert Evans, One of
the Respondents in the Original and Appellant in the
Cross Appeal last-mentioned; praying their Lordships,
That further Time until the first Day of the next
Session of Parliament, or such other Time as to their
Lordships, in their great Wisdom, shall seem proper,
may be allowed the Petitioner for laying the Print of
his Case in the above-mentioned Appeals upon the Table
of their Lordships House:"
It is Ordered, That the said Petition be referred to the
Committee appointed to consider of the Causes in which
Prints of the Appellants and Respondents Cases, now
depending in this House in Matters of Appeals and
Writs of Error, have not been delivered, pursuant to the
Standing Orders of this House.
James & Spencer v. Price & Gott.
Ordered, That the Cause wherein Thomas James and
James Spencer are Appellants, and James Price and
William Augustus Gott are Respondents, be heard by
Counsel at the Bar on Monday next.
Com rs of Charitable Donations et al. v. Harris et al.
Ordered, That the Cause wherein The Commissioners
of Charitable Donations, and others, are Appellants, and
Thomas Harris, and others, are Respondents, be heard by
Counsel at the Bar on Monday next.
Climbing Boys in sweeping Chimnies, Petition from Chichester against Employment of.
Upon reading the Petition of the Inhabitants of Chichester and its Vicinity, associated for the Purpose of
introducing Machinery in the sweeping of Chimnies, whose
Names are thereunto subscribed; praying their Lordships,
"That a Penalty may be attached to the placing or
receiving of Children as Apprentices to Chimney
Sweepers as shall amount to a perfect Prohibition of
the Practice, unless such Children shall severally have
attained the Age of Fourteen Years:"
It is Ordered, That the said Petition do lie on the
Table.
Hop Duty, Petition from Mayfield for Repeal of.
Upon reading the Petition of the Hop Planters of the
Parish of Mayfield, in the County of Sussex, whose
Names are thereunto subscribed; praying their Lordships "to repeal the New or War Duty on Hops:"
It is Ordered, That the said Petition do lie on the
Table.
Anatomy, Petition of Worcestershire Medical & Surgical Society respecting.
Upon reading the Petition of the Worcestershire
Medical and Surgical Society; complaining of the great
Hardships which the Petitioners, in common with all
other Members and Students of the different Branches of
the Professions of Medicine and Surgery, are labouring
under, from the present State of the Law, which, by
impeding a most important Branch of Medical Education,
the Practice of Dissection, throws almost insurmountable
Difficulties in the Way of acquiring a Knowledge of
Anatomy; and praying their Lordships, "That in any
Bill passed for the Regulation of the Study of Anatomy Provision may be made for the Transfer of Bodies
to any Part of the United Kingdom, as otherwise
Difficulties will still oppose themselves to the Study of
this important Art in Edinburgh, Glasgow and other
Places; and that, in order to do away with the Stigma
that now attaches to Dissection, the dead Bodies of
Murderers be no longer given up to the Anatomist, as
a Part of the Punishment for their Crimes, since the
Petitioners verily believe this Practice has tended to
encrease the popular Odium against Dissection:"
It is Ordered, That the said Petition do lie on the
Table.
Tiverton Roads Bill, Petition against.
Upon reading the Petition of the Owners and Occupiers of the Lands in the Parish of Oakford, in the County
of Devon, whose Names are thereunto subscribed; taking
notice of a Bill depending in this House, intituled, "An
Act for improving several Roads, and making certain
new Roads, in the Counties of Devon and Somerset,
leading to and from the Town of Tiverton; and for
amending an Act of His present Majesty for repairing
several Roads leading from and through the Town of
Wiveliscombe;" and praying their Lordships "to expunge from the said Bill the intended new Line of
Road from the Turnpike Road near Rackenford, through
the said Parish of Oakford, into the Wiveliscombe Turnpike Road, in the Parish of Knowstone, all in the
County of Devon; and that the Petitioners may have
Leave, by themselves and their Agents, to be heard
against the said Bill, so far as concerns the said intended
new Line of Road, before the Committee of their
Lordships:"
It is Ordered, That the said Petition do lie on the
Table.
Distress of the Country, Petition from Randwick respecting, & for Reduction of Taxation.
Upon reading the Petition of the Freeholders and
Inhabitant Householders in the Parish of Randwick, in
the County of Gloucester, whose Names are thereunto
subscribed; praying, "That their Lordships will take
their Case into their most serious Consideration,
and by a Reduction of Taxation, and by equalizing
Parochial Burdens, (either by a general Rate through
the Kingdom, or upon some large Divisions thereof,)
or by such other Means as to the Wisdom of their
Lordships shall seem meet, to alleviate their present
distressed and ruinous Condition:"
It is Ordered, That the said Petition do lie on the
Table.
Poor Laws, Petition from Roscommon against Introduction of, into Ireland.
Upon reading the Petition of the Landowners and
Landlords of the County of Roscommon, whose Names
are thereunto subscribed; praying, "That their Lordships will not sanction the Introduction of Poor Laws
into this Part of the United Kingdom:"
It is Ordered, That the said Petition do lie on the
Table.
East India, &c. Trade, Petitions from Walsall & Leicester for opening, referred to East India Comee.
Upon reading the Petition of The Mayor, Commonalty,
Merchants, Manufacturers and other Inhabitants of the
Borough and Foreign of Walsall, whose Names are thereunto subscribed; praying their Lordships, "That at the
Expiration of the Charter now held by The East India
Company all British Subjects may have the Privileges
of a Free Trade with those Parts, and Liberty to settle
in the British Eastern Possessions, under such Regulations as their Lordships may, in Concurrence with the
other Branches of the Legislature, direct, in reference
to the general Interests of the Empire, and not in
deference to any existing Monopoly:"
It is Ordered, That the said Petition do lie on the
Table.
Ordered, That the said Petition be referred to the
Select Committee appointed to enquire into the present
State of the Affairs of The East India Company, and
into the Trade between Great Britain, the East Indies
and China.
Upon reading the Petition of the Inhabitants of the
Town of Leicester and its Neighbourhood, whose Names
are thereunto subscribed; praying their Lordships,
That no Time may be lost in putting an end to The
East India Company's Monopoly of Trade at the
earliest Period allowed by Law:"
It is Ordered, That the said Petition do lie on the
Table.
Ordered, That the said Petition be referred to the lastmentioned Committee.
Beer Trade, Petition from Ilkeston against proposed Changes in the Licensing System.
Upon reading the Petition of the several Owners and
Occupiers of Licensed Victualling Houses residing in or
near the Parish of Ilkeston, in the County of Derby,
whose Names are thereunto subscribed; praying, "That
their Lordships will not sanction the proposed Changes
in the Licensing System, a Measure so pregnant with
Mischief to the Petitioners, and, in the Opinion of the
Magistrates of the Kingdom generally, as the Petitioners
believe, so prejudicial to Public Morals:"
It is Ordered, That the said Petition do lie on the
Table.
Greenwich Hospital, Petition of Merchant Seamen of Scarborough against contributing to.
Upon reading the Petition of the Trustees, in the Name
and on behalf of the Merchant Seamen of the Port of
Scarborough and its Dependencies, whose Names are
thereunto subscribed; praying, "That their Lordships
will be pleased to relieve them from the Contribution
of Sixpence per Month to Greenwich Hospital; and
also to alter or amend the Merchants Seamen's Act, so
as to apply the same to their own Fund, from which
they would receive the full Advantage of their
Industry:"
It is Ordered, That the said Petition do lie on the
Table.
Distress of Ship Owners, Petition from Scarborough for Relief.
Upon reading the Petition of the Ship Owners of the
Port of Scarborough, whose Names are thereunto subscribed; praying, "That their Lordships will be pleased
to appoint a Committee to take into Consideration
the increasing Sufferings of the Ship Owner, and the
ultimate Danger resulting to the Country at large, and
adopt such decisive Measures as may afford speedy and
effectual Relief to a numerous and now declining Class
of His Majesty's Subjects:"
It is Ordered, That the said Petition do lie on the
Table.
D'Oyly's Divorce Bill.
A Message was brought from the House of Commons,
by Sir Thomas Baring and others;
To return the Bill, intituled, "An Act to dissolve
the Marriage of John Hadley D'Oyly Esquire with
Charlotte his now Wife, and to enable him to marry
again, and for other Purposes;" and to acquaint this
House, That they have agreed to the same, with One
Amendment, to which they desire their Lordships Concurrence.
Kidwelly, &c. Inclosure Bill.
A Message was brought from the House of Commons,
by Mr.Rice Trevor and others;
With a Bill, intituled, "An Act for inclosing Lands
within the several Parishes of Kidwelly, Saint Mary in
Kidwelly, Saint Ishmael and Pembrey, in the County of
Carmarthen;" to which they desire the Concurrence
of this House.
Waterford Roads Bill.
A Message was brought from the House of Commons,
by Mr.Corbett and others;
With a Bill, intituled, "An Act for more effectually
repairing and improving several Roads leading from
the Bounds of the County of Cork to the City of
Waterford;" to which they desire the Concurrence of
this House.
Little Addington Inclosure Bill.
A Message was brought from the House of Commons,
by Mr. Corbett and others;
With a Bill, intituled, "An Act for inclosing Lands
in the Parish of Little Addington, in the County of
Northampton;" to which they desire the Concurrence
of this House.
The said Three Bills were, severally, read the First
Time.
D'Oyly's Divorce Bill, Commons Amendment agreed to.
The House proceeded to take into Consideration the
Amendment made by the Commons to the Bill, intituled,
An Act to dissolve the Marriage of John Hadley
D'Oyly Esquire with Charlotte his now Wife, and to
enable him to marry again; and for other Purposes."
And the said Amendment, being read Three Times by
the Clerk, was agreed to by the House.
And, A Message was sent to the House of Commons,
by Sir Giffin Wilson and Mr. Eden, to acquaint them
therewith.
Limerick Road Bill, Petition against, referred to the Com ee:
Upon reading the Petition of Peirce Mahony of
Merrion Square, in the City of Dublin; taking notice of
a Bill depending in this House, intituled, "An Act for
improving and repairing the Road leading from Newcastle, in the County of Limerick, to the City of
Limerick, and from thence to Charleville, in the County
of Cork;" and praying their Lordships "to permit the
Petitioner to be heard before the Committee to whom
the said Bill stands committed against several of the
Clauses and Provisions of said Bill, by himself, his
Counsel or Agents:"
It is Ordered, That the said Petition be referred to
the Committee to whom the said Bill stands committed,
and that the Petitioner be at liberty to be heard against
the same by himself, his Counsel or Agents, as desired;
and that Counsel be heard for the Bill at the same Time
if they think fit.
All Lords added to the Com ee:
Ordered, That all the Lords who have been or shall
be present this Session, and are not named of the Committee to whom the said Bill stands committed, be added
thereto.
Com ee to appoint a Chairman.
Ordered, That the Committee to whom the said Bill
stands committed do appoint their own Chairman.
Papers delivered from Ireland:
The House being informed, "That Mr. Johnson, from
the Office of the Chief Secretary for Ireland, attended;"
He was called in; and delivered at the Bar, pursuant
to the Directions of several Acts of Parliament,
Annual Report on Education:
"Annual Report from the Commissioners of Education
in Ireland to His Excellency The Lord Lieutenant, for
the Year ending the 25th March 1830:"
18th Report of Com rs of Public Accounts:
Also, "The Eighteenth Report of the Commissioners
for auditing Public Accounts in Ireland:"
Compensation to J. Brenan.
And also, "A Copy of the Certificate filed by The
Right Honorable The Lord Chancellor in the Office of
the Auditor General in Ireland, in the Matter of the
Petition and Claim of John Brenan Esquire, one of the
Six Clerks of the Court of Chancery in Ireland, for
Compensation for One Year ended the 2d November
1829; together with a Copy of The Lord Lieutenant's
Warrant thereon."
And then he withdrew.
And the Titles thereof being read by the Clerk;
Ordered, That the said Papers do lie on the Table.
Ordered, That the said first-mentioned Report be
printed.
East India Co's Annual Revenue Accounts delivered, & referred to East India Com ee.
The House being informed, "That Mr. Preston, from
the Court of Directors of The East India Company,
attended;"
He was called in; and delivered at the Bar, pursuant
to the Directions of an Act of Parliament,
"1. An Account of the Annual Revenues and Charges
of Bengal, under the respective Heads thereof, for
Three Years, according to the latest Advices; with an
Estimate of the same for the succeeding Year:"
Also, "2. A Comparison of the Estimated and Actual
Revenues and Charges of Bengal for the Year
1827/28:"
Also, "3. An Account of the Revenues and Charges
of Fort St. George, under the respective Heads thereof,
for Three Years, according to the latest Advices; with
an Estimate of the same for the succeeding Year:"
Also, "4. A Comparison of the Estimated and Actual
Revenues and Charges of Fort St. George for the Year
1827/28:"
Also, "5. An Account of the Revenues and Charges
of Bombay, under the respective Heads thereof, for
Three Years, according to the latest Advices; with an
Estimate of the same for the succeeding Year:"
Also, "6. A Comparison of the Estimated and Actual
Revenues and Charges of Bombay for the Year
1827/28:"
Also, "7. An Account of the Revenues and Charges
of Prince of Wales Island, Singapore, Malacca and
St. Helena, for Three Years, according to the latest
Advices; with an Estimate of the same for the succeeding Year:"
Also, "8. General Abstract View of the actual Revenues and Charges of India for Three Years, according
to the latest Advices; with an Estimate of the same for
the succeeding Year, shewing the Net Revenue, the
Amount paid for Interest on Debts, and the remaining
Surplus Revenue or Surplus Charge:"
Also, "9. Abstract Statement of the Receipts and
Disbursements of the Bengal Government, from 1st May
1827 to 30th April 1828:"
Also, "10. Abstract Statement of the Receipts and
Disbursements of the Madras Government, from
1st May 1827 to 30th April 1828."
Also, "11. Abstract Statement of the Receipts and
Disbursements of the Bombay Government, from
1st May 1827 to 30th April 1828:"
Also, "12. Abstract Statement of the Receipts and
Disbursements of Prince of Wales Island, Singapore and
Malacca, for 1827/28:"
Also, "13. An Account of the Balance of Quick Stock,
exhibiting a State of the Company's Affairs in respect
of their Assets and Debts, as they stood at the several
Presidencies of Fort William, Fort St. George, Bombay
and Prince of Wales Island at the Conclusion of the
Year 1827/28:"
Also, "14. Amount of Bond and other Debts owing
by The East India Company at their several Presidencies in the East Indies on the 30th April 1828, the
Rates of Interest which such Debts respectively carry,
and the Annual Amount of such Interest:"
Also, "15. Abstract Estimate of the probable Receipts
and Disbursements of the Bengal Government, from the
1st May 1828 to 30th April 1829:"
Also, "16. Abstract Estimate of the probable Receipts
and Disbursements of the Madras Government, from
the 1st May 1828 to 30th April 1829:"
Also, "17. Abstract Estimate of the probable Receipts
and Disbursements of the Bombay Government, from
the 1st May 1828 to 30th April 1829:"
Also, "18. Abstract Estimate of the probable Receipts
and Disbursements of Prince of Wales Island, Singapore and Malacca, for 1828/29:"
Also, "19. An Account of the Annual Charges defrayed
by The East India Company for the Management of
their Trade and Commerce in Bengal, Madras, Bombay
Bencoolen and Prince of Wales Island, also an Account
of the Factory Charges at Canton, for Three Years,
according to the latest Advices, with an Estimate of
the same for the succeeding Year:"
Also, "20. An Account of the Amount received at
the several Presidencies of Fort William, Fort St. George,
Bombay and Prince of Wales Island, for Sales of
Import Goods, for Three Years, according to the latest
Advices; with an Estimate for the same for the succeeding Year:"
And also, "21. An Account of the Prime Cost of all
Cargoes purchased by The East India Company in
India and shipped for Europe, for Three Years, according to the latest Advices."
And then he withdrew.
And the Titles thereof being read by the Clerk;
Ordered, That the said Accounts do lie on the Table.
Ordered, That the said Accounts be referred to the
Select Committee appointed to enquire into the present
State of the Affairs of The East India Company, and into
the Trade between Great Britain, the East Indies and
China.
Staines Bridge Account delivered.
The House being informed, "That Mr. Randolph
Horne, from the Commissioners of Staines Bridge,
attended;"
He was called in; and delivered at the Bar, pursuant
to the Directions of an Act of Parliament,
"An Account of the Receipts and Disbursements of
the Tolls and other Monies collected and raised by
virtue of the Act for building a Bridge over the River
Thames at Staines, in the County of Middlesex, from
the 26th of March 1829 to the 25th of March 1830."
And then he withdrew.
And the Title thereof being read by the Clerk;
Ordered, That the said Account do lie on the Table.
Foreign Grain, Petition from Belfast for Leave to grind.
Upon reading the Petition of the Inhabitants of the
Town of Belfast, whose Names are thereunto subscribed;
praying, "That their Lordships will be pleased to permit
Foreign Grain to be admitted into the Country to be
ground, on Bond being given that an equivalent
Quantity of Flour shall be returned into bonded Warehouses:"
It is Ordered, That the said Petition do lie on the
Table.
Criminal Laws, Petitions for Alteration of: (Limerick:)
Upon reading the Petition of the Local Directors and
Manager of the Provincial Bank of Ireland at Limerick,
whose Names are thereunto subscribed:
(Limerick:) Athlone:
Also, Upon reading the Petition of the Local Directors
and Manager of the Provincial Bank of Ireland at Athlone,
whose Names are thereunto subscribed:
Sligo:
Also, Upon reading the Petition of the Local Directors
and Manager of the Provincial Bank of Ireland at Sligo,
whose Names are thereunto subscribed:
Cork:
And also, Upon reading the Petition of the Local
Directors and Manager of the Provincial Bank of Ireland
at Cork, whose Names are thereunto subscribed; severally
praying, "That their Lordships will not withhold from
them that Protection to their Property which they
would derive from a more lenient Law than the Infliction of Death for Forgery:"
It is Ordered, That the said Petitions do lie on the
Table.
Falmouth.
Upon reading the Petition of The Mayor and Corporation of the Town of Falmouth, in the County of Cornwall,
and others, Inhabitants of the said Town and its Vicinity,
whose Names are thereunto subscribed; praying their
Lordships "to decide on the Abolition of Capital Punishment for all Descriptions of Forgery:"
It is Ordered, That the said Petition do lie on the
Table.
Tithe Laws, Petition from Devon for Alteration of.
Upon reading the Petition of the Inhabitants of the
County of Devon, being all either Owners of Land or
Payers or Receivers of Tithes, whose Names are thereunto subscribed; praying, "That their Lordships will, at
as early a Period in this Session of Parliament as the
Business of the Nation will allow, take into their most
serious Consideration the present State of the Tithe
Laws and the Effects now resulting from them; also
the Changes which have occurred since they were
framed; and that, after a strict and mature Investigation
of the Question in all its relative Bearings, they will
be pleased to adopt such Measures and make such
Arrangements as shall appear to their Lordships to be
consistent with Justice to the Payers and Receivers of
Tithes, and most beneficial to the general Interests of
Religion, and those of the Community at large:"
It is Ordered, That the said Petition do lie on the
Table.
Spirits, (Ireland,) Petition from Athlone against additional Duty on.
Upon reading the Petition of the Inhabitants of the
Town of Athlone and its Vicinity, whose Names are
thereunto subscribed; praying, "That their Lordships
will legislate for Ireland in a parental Spirit, uphold
her only Hope, her Agriculture, by continuing the
present Protection to Home-made Spirits:"
It is Ordered, That the said Petition do lie on the
Table.
Stamps, (Ireland,) Petition from Athlone against additional Duty on.
Upon reading the Petition of the Inhabitants of the
Town of Athlone and its Vicinity, whose Names are
thereunto subscribed; praying their Lordships "not to
encrease the present Rate of Stamp Duties, being
already sufficiently oppressive to the Interests of
Ireland:"
It is Ordered, That the said Petition do lie on the
Table.
Coals, Petition from St. Paul's, Dublin, for Repeal of Duty on Import of, into Ireland.
Upon reading the Petition of the Merchants, Manufacturers, Traders, Householders and other Inhabitants of
the Parish of Saint Paul, in the City of Dublin, whose
Names are thereunto subscribed; praying their Lordships,
That all Duties, whether Local or General, on the
Importation of Coals into Ireland may be forthwith
repealed:"
It is Ordered, That the said Petition do lie on the
Table.
Sunday Markets & Sunday Labour in the West Indies, Petition from Ipswich for Abolition of.
Upon reading the Petition of the Protestant Dissenters
of the Baptist Persuasion meeting for Religious Worship
at Stoke Green Chapel Ipswich, whose Names are thereunto subscribed; praying their Lordships, "That the
Sabbath may be effectually secured to the Slaves as
a Day of Rest and entire Relaxation from Labour, and
be open to be devoted to Religious Instruction and
Worship: That Sunday Markets and Sunday Labour
may be prohibited; and that sufficient Time be allowed
on other Days for the Cultivation of Provisions, and
marketting: That the Slave Population may be allowed
to attend for the Purpose of receiving Religious
Instruction at all Times, without Let or Hindrance,
when the Labours of the Day are ended; and that no
Infringement upon Religious Liberty may be allowed:"
It is Ordered, That the said Petition do lie on the
Table.
Hamerton's Divorce Bill.
Hodie 2a
vice lecta est Billa, intituled, "An Act to
dissolve the Marriage of William Medows Hamerton
Esquire with Isabella Frances his now Wife, and to
enable him to marry again; and for other Purposes."
Ordered, That the said Bill be committed to a Committee of the Whole House.
Ordered, That the House be put into a Committee
upon the said Bill on Monday next.
Navy Pay Bill:
Hodie 3a
vice lecta est Billa, intituled, "An Act to
amend and consolidate the Laws relating to the Pay of
the Royal Navy."
The Question was put, "Whether this Bill shall
pass?"
It was resolved in the Affirmative.
Ross Improvement Bill:
Hodie 3a
vice lecta est Billa, intituled, "An Act for
paving, cleansing, draining, lighting, watching, regulating and improving the Town of Ross, and for disposing of certain Common and Waste Lands and Rights
of Common within the Parish of Ross, in the County of
Hereford."
The Question was put, "Whether this Bill shall
pass?"
It was resolved in the Affirmative.
Stamford Road Bill:
Hodie 3a
vice lecta est Billa, intituled, "An Act for
more effectually repairing and improving the Road
leading from the Town of Stamford to the Division
Stone in South Witham, in the County of Lincoln."
The Question was put, "Whether this Bill shall
pass?"
It was resolved in the Affirmative.
Great Strickland, &c. Inclosure Bill:
Hodie 3a
vice lecta est Billa, intituled, "An Act for
inclosing Lands in the Townships of Great Strickland
and Thrimby, in the Parish of Morland, in the County
of Westmorland."
The Question was put, "Whether this Bill shall
pass?"
It was resolved in the Affirmative.
Birmingham & Edgehill Road Bill:
Hodie 3a
vice lecta est Billa, intituled, "An Act for
repairing the Road from Birmingham, through Warwick
and Warmington, in the County of Warwick, to the
utmost Limits of the said County on Edgehill."
The Question was put, "Whether this Bill shall
pass?"
It was resolved in the Affirmative.
Messages to H.C. that the Lords have agreed to the 5 preceding Bills.
And Messages were, severally, sent to the House of
Commons, by Sir Giffin Wilson and Mr. Eden;
To acquaint them, That the Lords have agreed to the
said Bills, without any Amendment.
Dundee & Newtyle Railway Bill:
Hodie 3a
vice lecta est Billa, intituled "An Act to
amend an Act for making a Railway from Dundee to
Newtyle."
The Question was put, "Whether this Bill, with
the Amendment, shall pass?"
It was resolved in the Affirmative.
Message to H.C. with an Amendment to it.
A Message was sent to the House of Commons, by
the former Messengers;
To return the said Bill, and acquaint them, That the
Lords have agreed to the same, with One Amendment, to
which their Lordships desire their Concurrence.
Mildmay Leave for a Divorce Bill:
A Petition of Edward St. John Mildmay, a Captain in
His Majesty's 10th Regiment of Foot; praying their
Lordships, "That Leave may be given to bring in a Bill
to dissolve his Marriage with Marianne Catherine his
Wife, and to enable him to marry again," being offered
to be presented to the House;
The House was informed, "That Mr. George Harding
was attending."
He was Ordered to be called in:
And being called in accordingly, and sworn at the Bar,
delivered a Copy of the Proceedings for a Divorce a
Mensâ et Thoro, and the Definitive Sentence of Divorce
in the Arches Court of Canterbury, intituled, "Mildmay
against Mildmay," which he said he had examined with
the Originals, and that the same were true Copies:
And then he withdrew.
Ordered, That the said Proceedings and Sentence do
lie on the Table.
Then the said Petition was presented and read.
Ordered, That Leave be given to bring in a Bill
according to the Prayer of the said Petition.
Bill presented:
Accordingly, The Earl of Shaftesbury presented to the
House a Bill, intituled, "An Act to dissolve the Marriage
of Captain Edward St. John Mildmay with Marianne
Catherine his now Wife, and to enable him to marry
again; and for other Purposes therein mentioned."
The said Bill was read the First Time.
Order for 2d Reading:
Ordered, That the said Bill be read a Second Time
on Monday the 31st of this instant May, and that Notice
thereof be affixed on the Doors of this House, and the
Lords summoned; and that the said Captain Edward
St. John Mildmay may be heard by his Counsel, at the
said Second Reading, to make out the Truth of the
Allegations of the Bill; and that the said Marianne
Catherine may have a Copy of the Bill, and that Notice
be given her of the said Second Reading; and that she
be at liberty to be heard by her Counsel what she may
have to offer against the said Bill, at the same Time.
Petitioner to attend.
Ordered, That Captain Edward St. John Mildmay do
attend this House on Monday the 31st of this instant May,
in order to his being examined upon the Second Reading
of the Bill, intituled, "An Act to dissolve the Marriage
of Captain Edward St. John Mildmay with Marianne
Catherine his now Wife, and to enable him to marry
again; and for other Purposes therein mentioned," if
the House shall think fit, whether there has or has not
been any Collusion, directly or indirectly, on his Part,
relative to any Act of Adultery that may have been committed by his Wife; or whether there be any Collusion,
directly or indirectly, between him and his Wife, or any
other Person or Persons, touching the said Bill of Divorce,
or touching any Proceedings or Sentence of Divorce had
in the Ecclesiastical Court at his Suit, or touching any
Action at Law which may have been brought by him
against any Person for Criminal Conversation with his
the said Captain Edward St. John Mildmay's Wife; and
also, whether, at the Time of the Adultery of which he
complains, his Wife was, by Deed, or otherwise by his
Consent, living separate and apart from him, and released
by him, as far as in him lies, from her conjugal Duty, or
whether she was, at the Time of such Adultery, cohabiting
with him, and under the Protection and Authority of him
as her Husband.
Richmond Lunatic Asylum (Dublin) Bill.
The House (according to Order) was adjourned during
Pleasure, and put into a Committee upon the Bill, intituled, "An Act for appropriating the Richmond Lunatic
Asylum in Dublin to the Purposes of a District Lunatic
Asylum."
After some Time, the House was resumed:
And The Earl of Shaftesbury reported from the Committee, "That they had gone through the Bill, and
directed him to report the same to the House, without
any Amendment."
Leases for Linen Manufacture (Ireland) Bill.
The House (according to Order) was adjourned during
Pleasure, and put into a Committee upon the Bill, intituled, "An Act to confirm certain Leases of Lands for
the Purposes of carrying on the Linen Manufacture of
Ireland."
After some Time, the House was resumed:
And The Earl of Shaftesbury reported from the Committee, "That they had gone through the Bill, and
directed him to report the same to the House, without
any Amendment."
Doe v. Vardill, in Error, Judges to attend.
Ordered, That the Errors assigned upon the Writ of
Error wherein John Doe, on the Demise of John Birtwhistle, is Plaintiff, and Agnes Vardill is Defendant, be
argued by Counsel at the Bar on Wednesday the 26th of
this instant May; and that the Judges do then attend.
Bp. Lincoln et al. v. Rennell, in Error, Judges to attend.
Ordered, That the Errors assigned upon the Writ of
Error wherein George Lord Bishop of Lincoln, and others,
are Plaintiffs, and Frances Henrietta Rennell Widow is
Defendant, be argued by Counsel at the Bar on Wednesday the 26th of this instant May; and that the Judges do
then attend.
Giles v. Grover & Pollard, in Error, Judges to attend.
Ordered, That the Errors assigned upon the Writ of
Error wherein Daniel Giles Esquire is Plaintiff, and
Harry Grover and James Pollard are Defendants, be
argued by Counsel at the Bar on Friday the 4th of June
next; and that the Judges do then attend.
Mellish v. Richardson, in Error, Judges to attend.
Ordered, That the Errors assigned upon the Writ of
Error wherein William Mellish is Plaintiff, and George
Richardson is Defendant, be argued by Counsel at the
Bar on Friday the 4th of June next; and that the Judges
do then attend.
Cadell v. Palmer et al. Judges to attend.
Ordered, That the Cause wherein Thomas Cadell
Esquire is Appellant, and Arthur Palmer, and others, are
Respondents, be heard by Counsel at the Bar on Monday
the 7th of June next; and that the Judges do then
attend.
Bulkley v. Wilford, Respondent's Petition for Time for her Case, referred to Appeal Com ee.
Upon reading the Petition of Anna Wilford, Respondent in a Cause depending in this House, to which George
Wilford Bulkley is Appellant; praying, "That their
Lordships will be pleased to grant an Order allowing
the Petitioner the same Time to lay her Case upon the
Table of their Lordships House as their Lordships shall
be pleased to grant to the Appellant:"
It is Ordered, That the said Petition be referred to the
Committee appointed to consider of the Causes in which
Prints of the Appellants and Respondents Cases, now
depending in this House in Matters of Appeals and Writs
of Error, have not been delivered, pursuant to the Standing
Orders of this House.
Sir W. P. Campbell's Estate Bill, Report of Judges in Ireland read, & referred to the Com ee.
The Report of the Judges in Ireland, to whom a
printed Copy of the Bill, intituled, "An Act to enable
Sir William Purves Hume Campbell of Marchmont,
Baronet, and the Heirs of Entail of the Lands and
Barony of Greenlaw, in the County of Berwick, to
grant Feus of Parts of the said Lands and Barony; and
for other Purposes therein mentioned," was referred, to
take the Consents of Mrs. Eliza Hannah Wauchope
Widow and Major William H. Rainey, Two of the
Guardians of Andrew Wauchope, was read.
Ordered, That the said Report be referred to the Committee to whom the said Bill stands committed.
Welsh Iron & Mining Co's Estate Bill, Petition against, referred to the Com ee:
Upon reading the Petition of Thomas Henry Parker of
Camden Place, Camden Town, in the County of Middlesex,
Esquire; William Davies of North Audley Street, in the
said County of Middlesex, Coal Merchant; and William
Dobree of Craven Lodge, Fulham, in the County of Surrey,
Esquire; taking notice of a Bill depending in this House,
intituled, "An Act for dissolving a certain Partnership
Company known by the Name of "The Welsh Iron
and Coal Mining Company," and for enabling the
Directors and Trustees thereof to dispose of the Estate
and Effects of the Concern, and divide the Surplus,
after Payment of Debts and Expences, amongst the
Shareholders of the Capital Stock therein; and for other
Purposes;" and praying their Lordships, "That the
same may not pass into a Law; and that the Petitioners may be heard by their Counsel, Solicitors or
Agents against such Parts of the said Bill as affect their
Rights and Interests:"
It is Ordered, That the said Petition be referred to the
Committee to whom the said Bill stands committed, and
that the Petitioners be at liberty to be heard by their
Counsel, Solicitors or Agents against the same, as desired;
and that Counsel be heard for the Bill, at the same Time,
if they think fit.
All Lords added to the Com ee:
Ordered, That all the Lords who have been or shall be
present this Session, and are not named of the Committee
to whom the last-mentioned Bill stands committed, be
added thereto.
Perring to attend the Com ee:
Ordered, That Philip Perring do attend this House on
Monday next, to be sworn, in order to his being examined
as a Witness before the Committee to whom the lastmentioned Bill stands committed.
Hungerford Market Bill.
Hodie 2a
vice lecta est Billa, intituled, "An Act to
incorporate certain Persons to be called "The Hungerford Market Company," for the Re-establishment of a
Market for the Sale of Fish, Poultry and Meat, and
other Articles of general Consumption and Use; and
for other Purposes."
Ordered, That the said Bill be committed to the
Consideration of the Lords following:
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V. Duncan.
V. Melville.
V. Lorton.
V. Granville.
L. Bp. Lichfield & Coventry.
L. Bp. Raphoe.
L. Teynham.
L. Boyle.
L. King.
L. Monson.
L. Holland.
L. Sundridge & Hamilton.
L. Lyttelton.
L. Calthorpe.
L. De Dunstanville & Bassett.
L. Rolle.
L. Bayning.
L. Bolton.
L. Fitz Gibbon.
L. Carbery.
L. Dufferin & Claneboye.
L. Dunalley.
L. Ellenborough.
L. Arden.
L. Barham.
L. Mont Eagle.
L. Hill.
L. Churchill.
L. Glenlyon.
L. Delamere.
L. Bexley.
L. Penshurst.
L. Somerhill.
L. Farnborough.
L. Feversham.
L. Durham.
L. Wallace. |
L. Abp. Canterbury.
L. President.
L. Privy Seal.
D. Richmond.
D. Rutland.
D. Newcastle.
D. Wellington.
M. Lansdowne.
M. Salisbury.
M. Bute.
M. Camden.
M. Anglesey.
M. Cleveland.
E. Winchilsea & Nottingham.
E. Chesterfield.
E. Shaftesbury.
E. Rosebery.
E. Ferrers.
E. Stanhope.
E. Hardwicke.
E. De Lawarr.
E. Radnor.
E. Hillsborough.
E. Norwich.
E. Mansfield.
E. Carnarvon.
E. Wicklow.
E. Caledon.
E. Minto.
E. Verulam.
E. Brownlow.
E. Morley.
E. Bradford.
E. Glengall.
E. Eldon.
E. Falmouth.
E. Vane. |
Their Lordships, or any Five of them, to meet on
Monday next, at Ten o'Clock in the Forenoon, in
the Prince's Lodgings, near the House of Peers;
and to adjourn as they please.
Dunham Bridge Bill.
Hodie 2a
vice lecta est Billa, intituled, "An Act for
building a Bridge over the River Trent, from Dunham,
in the County of Nottingham, to the opposite Shore in
the County of Lincoln."
Ordered, That the said Bill be committed to the
Consideration of the Lords Committees aforenamed:
Their Lordships, or any Five of them, to meet on
the same Day, at the same Place; and to adjourn
as they please.
Hollingrake's Patent Bill.
Hodie 2a
vice lecta est Billa, intituled, "An Act for
prolonging the Term of certain Letters Patent granted
to John Hollingrake, for an improved Method of
manufacturing Copper or other Metal Rollers, and of
casting and forming Metallic Substances into various
Forms with improved Closeness and Soundness of
Texture."
Ordered, That the said Bill be committed to the
Consideration of the Lords Committees aforenamed:
Their Lordships, or any Five of them, to meet on
the same Day, at the same Place; and to adjourn
as they please.
Bath Hospital Bill.
Hodie 2a
vice lecta est Billa, intituled, "An Act for
altering and amending an Act passed in the Twelfth
Year of the Reign of His Majesty King George the
Second, for establishing and well-governing an Hospital
or Infirmary in the City of Bath, and for constructing
Baths therein, and supplying the same with Water from
the Hot Baths in the said City."
Ordered, That the said Bill be committed to the
Consideration of the Lords Committees aforenamed:
Their Lordships, or any Five of them, to meet on
Wednesday next, at the usual Time and Place;
and to adjourn as they please.
Caithness Roads & Statute Labour Bill.
Hodie 2a
vice lecta est Billa, intituled, "An Act for
making, repairing, widening and keeping in Repair
certain Roads and Bridges in the County of Caithness,
and for better regulating and rendering more effectual
the Statute Labour in the said County, and Conversion
Money in lieu thereof."
Ordered, That the said Bill be committed to the
Consideration of the Lords Committees aforenamed:
Their Lordships, or any Five of them, to meet on
Monday next, at the usual Time and Place; and
to adjourn as they please.
Cowfold Roads Bill.
Hodie 2a
vice lecta est Billa, intituled, "An Act for
more effectually repairing the Roads from Hand Cross,
through Cowfold, to Corner House, and from thence to
the Turnpike Road from Horsham to Steyning, and
from Corner House aforesaid to the Maypole, in the
Town of Henfield, and certain Branches therefrom, all
in the County of Sussex."
Ordered, That the said Bill be committed to the
Consideration of the Lords Committees aforenamed:
Their Lordships, or any Five of them, to meet on
the same Day, at the same Place; and to adjourn
as they please.
Glasgow Royalty Extension Bill.
Hodie 2a
vice lecta est Billa, intituled, "An Act for
extending the Civil and Criminal Jurisdiction of the
Magistrates and the Town or Burgh and Dean of
Guild Courts of Glasgow over the Lands of Blythswood
and adjacent Lands; and for amending the Acts relating
to the Police of the said City."
Ordered, That the said Bill be committed to the
Consideration of the Lords Committees aforenamed:
Their Lordships, or any Five of them, to meet on
the same Day, at the same Place; and to adjourn
as they please.
Louth, &c. Roads Bill.
Hodie 2a
vice lecta est Billa, intituled, "An Act for,
more effectually repairing and improving the Roads
from Saltfleet to the Town of Horncastle, and other
Roads therein mentioned, all in the County of
Lincoln."
Ordered, That the said Bill be committed to the
Consideration of the Lords Committees aforenamed:
Their Lordships, or any Five of them, to meet on
the same Day, at the same Place; and to adjourn
as they please.
London Assurance Companies Bill.
Hodie 2a
vice lecta est Billa, intituled, "An Act to
enable the London Assurance Companies and their
Successors to purchase Annuities upon or for Lives,
and also to lend Money or Stock upon Mortgage, for
the Purpose of Investment."
Ordered, That the said Bill be committed to the
Consideration of the Lords Committees aforenamed:
Their Lordships, or any Five of them, to meet on
the same Day, at the same Place; and to adjourn
as they please.
Walsall, &c. Roads Bill.
Hodie 2a
vice lecta est Billa, intituled, "An Act for
improving and maintaining the Road leading from
Walsall to Muckley Corner, near Lichfield, and other
Roads, in the County of Stafford."
Ordered, That the said Bill be committed to the
Consideration of the Lords Committees aforenamed:
Their Lordships, or any Five of them, to meet on
the same Day, at the same Place; and to adjourn
as they please.
D. of Buccleuch's Estate Bill.
Hodie 2a
vice lecta est Billa, intituled, "An Act for
exchanging the Estates in the County of Northampton
of which The Most Noble Walter Francis Douglas
Montagu Duke of Buccleuch and Queensberry is
Tenant in Tail under the Will of The Most Noble
John late Duke of Montagu, deceased, for some of his
Settled Estates in the Counties of Lancaster and York
of which he is Tenant for Life under the Will of The
Most Noble Elizabeth late Duchess of Buccleuch and
Queensberry, deceased."
Ordered, That the said Bill be committed to the
Consideration of the Lords Committees aforenamed:
Their Lordships, or any Five of them, to meet on
Tuesday the 25th of this instant May, at the usual
Time and Place; and to adjourn as they please.
Monks Risborough Inclosure Bill.
Ordered, That the Sitting of the Committee upon the
Bill, intituled, "An Act for inclosing Lands in the
Parish of Monks Risborough, in the County of Buckingham," which stands appointed for Monday next, be
put off to Wednesday next.
Manchester Improvement Bill.
The Earl of Shaftesbury reported from the Lords Committees, to whom the Bill, intituled, "An Act to amend
several Acts for supplying the Town of Manchester
with Gas, and for regulating and improving the same
Town," was committed; "That they had considered
the said Bill, and examined the Allegations thereof,
which were found to be true; and that the Committee
had gone through the Bill, and directed him to report
the same to the House, without any Amendment."
Sir W. G. Cumming's Estate Bill.
The Earl of Shaftesbury reported from the Lords Committees, to whom the Bill, intituled, "An Act for selling
the Entailed Estates of Gordonstown, and others, in the
Counties of Elgin and Banff, belonging to Sir William
Gordon Gordon Cumming Baronet, or so much thereof
as may be necessary, and to apply the Price arising
therefrom in the Payment of the Debts affecting or
that may be made to affect the said Lands and Estates,"
was committed; "That they had considered the said
Bill, and examined the Allegations thereof, which
were found to be true; that the Parties concerned
had given their Consents to the Satisfaction of the
Committee; and that the Committee had gone through
the Bill, and made some Amendments thereto."
Which Amendments, being read Twice by the Clerk,
were agreed to by the House.
Ordered, That the said Bill, with the Amendments,
be ingrossed.
Rawlings's Estate Bill.
The Earl of Shaftesbury reported from the Lords
Committees, to whom the Bill, intituled, "An Act for
vesting the legal Estate in certain Estates late of
Mrs. Ann Budgen, formerly vested in Elizabeth Pedder
deceased in Mortgage, in Edward Rawlings, the present
Mortgagee and Trustee of the Equity of Redemption
thereof," was committed; "That they had considered
the said Bill, and examined the Allegations thereof,
which were found to be true; that the Parties concerned had given their Consents to the Satisfaction of
the Committee; and that the Committee had gone
through the Bill, and made One Amendment thereto."
Which Amendment, being read Twice by the Clerk,
was agreed to by the House.
Ordered, That the said Bill, with the Amendment, be
ingrossed.
Barnwell Tithes Bill.
The Earl of Shaftesbury reported from the Lords
Committees, to whom the Bill, intituled, "An Act to
commute for Lands and a Corn Rent the ancient
Compositions in lieu of Tithes and Glebe Lands
payable to the Rector of the Parish of Barnwell Saint
Andrew with Barnwell All Saints annexed, in the
County of Northampton," was committed; "That they
had considered the said Bill, and examined the Allegations thereof, which were found to be true; that
the Parties concerned had given their Consents to the
Satisfaction of the Committee; and that the Committee
had gone through the Bill, and directed him to report
the same to the House, without any Amendment."
Cromford Bridge Road Bill.
The Earl of Shaftesbury reported from the Lords
Committees, to whom the Bill, intituled, "An Act for
more effectually repairing and improving the Road
from Cromford Bridge to the Turnpike Road at or
near Langley Mill, in the County of Derby," was
committed; "That they had considered the said Bill,
and examined the Allegations thereof, which were
found to be true; and that the Committee had gone
through the Bill, and made One Amendment thereto."
Which Amendment was read by the Clerk as follows;
(viz
t.)
"Pr. 2. L. 32. Leave out ("Day of June") and insert
("Monday")"
And the said Amendment, being read a Second Time,
was agreed to by the House.
Little Bolton Improvement Bill.
The Earl of Shaftesbury reported from the Lords
Committees, to whom the Bill, intituled, "An Act for
more effectually cleansing, paving, lighting, watching,
regulating and improving the Township of Little Bolton,
in the County Palatine of Lancaster," was committed;
That they had considered the said Bill, and examined
the Allegations thereof, which were found to be true;
and that the Committee had gone through the Bill,
and directed him to report the same to the House,
without any Amendment."
New Sarum Poor Rates Bill.
The Earl of Shaftesbury made the like Report from
the Lords Committees, to whom the Bill, intituled, "An
Act for better assessing and recovering the Rates for
the Relief of the Poor within the City of New Sarum,
and enlarging the Powers of an Act passed in the
Tenth Year of the Reign of His late Majesty King
George the Third, intituled, "An Act for consolidating
the Rates to be made for the Relief of the Poor of the
respective Parishes of Saint Thomas, Saint Edmund and
Saint Martin, in the City of New Sarum," was committed.
Tweed Fisheries Bill.
The Earl of Shaftesbury made the like Report from
the Lords Committees, to whom the Bill, intituled, "An
Act for the more effectual Preservation and Increase
of the Breed of Salmon, and for better regulating the
Fisheries in the River Tweed, and the Rivers and
Streams running into the same, and also within the
Mouth or Entrance of the said River," was committed.
Wareham Roads Bill.
The Earl of Shaftesbury made the like Report from
the Lords Committees, to whom the Bill, intituled, "An
Act for more effectually repairing and improving
several Roads leading from the Market Cross, in the
Town of Wareham, and in Purbeck, in the County of
Dorset," was committed.
St. Helens & Runcorn Gap Railway Bill.
The Earl of Shaftesbury made the like Report from
the Lords Committees, to whom the Bill, intituled, "An
Act for making a Railway from the Cowley Hill
Colliery, in the Parish of Prescot, to Runcorn Gap, in
the same Parish, (with several Branches therefrom,) all
in the County Palatine of Lancaster; and for constructing a Wet Dock at the Termination of the said
Railway at Runcorn Gap aforesaid," was committed.
Derby Roads Bill.
The Earl of Shaftesbury made the like Report from
the Lords Committees, to whom the Bill, intituled, "An
Act for more effectually repairing and improving certain Roads between the Towns of Derby, Mansfield
and Nutthall, in the Counties of Derby and Nottingham," was committed.
Stafford Improvement Bill.
The Earl of Shaftesbury made the like Report from
the Lords Committees, to whom the Bill, intituled, "An
Act for paving, lighting, watching, cleansing, regulating and improving the Streets, Lanes and other
Public Passages and Places within the Borough of
Stafford, in the County of Stafford," was committed.
Charminster Inclosure Bill.
The Earl of Shaftesbury reported from the Lords
Committees, to whom the Bill, intituled, "An Act for
inclosing Lands within the Parish of Charminster, in
the County of Dorset," was committed; "That they
had considered the said Bill, and examined the Allegations thereof, which were found to be true; that the
Parties concerned had given their Consents to the
Satisfaction of the Committee; and that the Committee had gone through the Bill, and directed him to
report the same to the House, without any Amendment."
Tiverton Roads Bill Specially reported.
The Earl of Shaftesbury reported from the Lords
Committees appointed to consider of the Bill, intituled,
An Act for improving several Roads and making
certain new Roads in the Counties of Devon and
Somerset, leading to and from the Town of Tiverton;
and for amending an Act of His present Majesty, for
repairing several Roads leading from and through the
Town of Wiveliscombe;" "That the Committee had
met, and considered the said Bill, and, in the first place,
proceeded to enquire how far the Standing Orders of
the House relative to Road Bills had been complied
with, and found that all the said Orders had been
complied with, except in the following Particular;
viz
t. that Notice of the Bill, containing Mention of a
proposed Amendment of the Wiveliscombe Road Act,
referred to in the Bill, had only been inserted Twice
in the County Newspapers (Woolmer's Exeter and
Plymouth Gazette of the 21st and 28th of November,
the Devonport Telegraph and Plymouth Chronicle of
the 21st and 28th of November, and Keen's Bath
Journal of the 23d and 30th of November 1829,) within
the Period prescribed by the Standing Orders, viz
t.
August, September, October or November, as it was
stated to the Committee by the Solicitor for the Bill
that he did not know that it was necessary to mention
such proposed Amendment, as the Trustees for the
said Act were assenting to the Measure, and that when
he was informed of such Necessity by the his Parliamentary Agent, it was too late to give the Third
Notice in the Month of November; but that it was
proved to the Committee that a Third Insertion of such
Notice was given in the Beginning of December, (viz
t.
on the 5th of December 1829 in the said Two firstmentioned Newspapers, and on the 7th of December in
the last-mentioned Newspaper,) and that, upon the
Notices so published of such Amendment, Leave was
given by the House of Commons to the Parties to
proceed with their Bill; and that the Committee had
gone through the Bill, and directed him to report the
same to their Lordships, without any Amendment."
Which Report being read by the Clerk;
Ordered, That the said Report do lie on the Table.
Ashburton Roads Bill.
The Earl of Shaftesbury reported from the Lords
Committees, to whom the Bill, intituled, "An Act for
more effectually repairing and improving several Roads
to and from or near to the Towns of Ashburton and
Totness, in the County of Devon," was committed;
That they had considered the said Bill, and examined
the Allegations thereof, which were found to be true;
and that the Committee had gone through the Bill,
and directed him to report the same to the House,
without any Amendment."
Great Dover Street, &c. Improvement Bill.
The Earl of Shaftesbury made the like Report from
the Lords Committees, to whom the Bill, intituled, "An
Act for paving, lighting, cleansing and otherwise improving such Parts of Great Dover Street, Trinity
Street, Trinity Square, and the Highways, Roads,
Streets, Markets and other Public Passages and Places
leading out thereof or abutting thereon or adjacent
thereto, all within the Parishes of Saint Mary Newington and Saint George the Martyr Southwark, in the
County of Surrey, as do not fall within the Powers
and Provisions of any existing Acts of Parliament,"
was committed.
Kingston Bridge Bill.
The Earl of Shaftesbury made the like Report from
the Lords Committees, to whom the Bill, intituled, "An
Act for amending the Provisions of an Act passed in
the Sixth Year of the Reign of His present Majesty,
for the rebuilding of Kingston Bridge, and for improving and making suitable Approaches thereto," was
committed.
Tonbridge Roads Bill.
The Earl of Shaftesbury made the like Report from
the Lords Committees, to whom the Bill, intituled, "An
Act for amending and improving the Road from
Tonbridge to Ightham, and other Roads communicating
therewith, in the County of Kent," was committed.
Kingston-upon-Hull & Hedon Road Bill.
The Earl of Shaftesbury also made the like Report
from the Lords Committees, to whom the Bill, intituled,
An Act for making and maintaining a new Turnpike
Road from the Town of Kingston-upon-Hull, in the
County, of the said Town, to Hedon, in the County of
York," was committed.
Ld. Cremorne's Estate Bill, Ellis's Petition to take his Consent in Ireland.
Upon reading the Petition of Thomas Ellis of the City of
Dublin, Esquire, the Guardian appointed by the High Court
of Chancery in Ireland of the Fortunes of The Right Honorable Richard Lord Cremorne, an Infant, on behalf of the
said Infant; praying their Lordships, "That the Petitioner's
Consent to the Bill, intituled, "An Act to enable the
Guardian of The Right Honorable Richard Lord
Cremorne, an Infant, to carry into Effect a Contract
entered into for the Purchase of Rockcorry Castle and
adjoining Lands in the County of Monaghan, in Ireland," may be signified before Mr. Justice Torrens and
Mr. Justice Vandeleur, or Two other of the Judges in
Ireland; and for that Purpose a Copy of his Petition
for such Bill, and Report of the English Judges thereon,
and a printed Copy of the said Bill, may be referred to
such Two Judges in Ireland:"
It is Ordered, That a printed Copy of the said Bill,
attested by the Clerk of the Parliaments, be, and the
same is hereby referred to Mr. Justice Torrens, in Ireland,
and Mr. Justice Vandeleur, in Ireland, who are forthwith
to summon the said Thomas Ellis, and to take his Consent
to the said Bill, as the Guardian of the said Richard
Lord Cremorne; and thereafter to report to the House,
under their Hands, whether the said Thomas Ellis has
appeared before them the said Mr. Justice Torrens and
Mr. Justice Vandeleur, and consented to the same as such
Guardian; and that the said Mr. Justice Torrens and
Mr. Justice Vandeleur do sign the said printed Copy of
the said Bill.
East Retford Election Bill:
The Order of the Day being read for the further Consideration and Second Reading of the Bill, intituled,
An Act to prevent Bribery and Corruption in the
Election of Burgesses to serve in Parliament for the
Borough of East Retford;" and for the Lords to be
summoned; and for permitting Counsel to examine
Witnesses in support of the Bill; and for hearing Counsel
on the Petition of the Burgesses of the Borough of East
Retford, in the County of Nottingham, whose Names are
thereunto subscribed, praying their Lordships, "That
the said Bill may not pass into a Law;"
Counsel were accordingly called in.
Then Thomas Slaney was called in; and having been
sworn, was examined as follows:
(Mr. Law.) "Is your Name Thomas Slaney?"
"Yes."
"Are you a Burgess of East Retford?"
"I believe so; yes, I am."
"When were you admitted a Burgess?"
"About Thirty Years ago."
"To whom did you promise your Vote in the Election
of 1812?"
"To Mr. Osbaldeston and Mr. Marsh."
"Did you receive any Money after that Election?"
"No, I did not receive any Money; yes, I received
One Pound."
"Of whom did you receive that?"
"Of Mr. Hannam."
"Where?"
"At the Angel Inn."
"Was that in October 1814, or thereabout?"
"Somewhere thereabout; I cannot speak exactly to
the Day."
"Was the Sum of One Pound all you received?"
"It was all I received myself."
"Did any one receive any Money on your Account?"
"I saw an Account of Mr. Hannam's, that he said he
had received some for me before that."
"Had Mr. Hannam previously advanced you any Sum
of Money?"
"No; I never got any Money of Mr. Hannam, except
that Sum."
"Did any body else receive any Money on your
Account of Mr. Hannam?"
"No, not that I know of; not from Mr. Hannam."
"Did Mr. Hannam lend you any Money, for which you
gave a Note?"
"No; I never gave any Note to Mr. Hannam."
"Do you mean to state to their Lordships, that you
received only One Pound by way of Loan, or otherwise?"
"Mr. Hannam said he had laid down Twenty Pounds
for me; but he never gave the Money to me."
"Did any other Person receive it for your Use?"
"I do not know exactly whether they did or not. I
dare say they might; but they never told me that they
had."
"To whom did you promise your Vote in the Election
of 1818?"
"To Mr. Evans and Mr. Crompton."
"Did you receive any Money after that Election."
"There were some Packages and Letters put into the
House."
"What did those Packages contain?"
"I did not open them; my Wife opened them."
"When they were opened, what did they contain?"
"I dare say Twenty-one Pounds, to the best of my
Knowledge."
"Whom did you promise in the Election of 1820?"
"Mr. Crompton and Mr. Evans."
"Did you receive any Packages after that Election?"
"Yes."
"What did they contain?"
"The same Amount."
"Twenty-one Pounds each?"
"Yes."
"What was the first Election after which you received
any Money; you say you have been a Burgess about
Thirty Years?"
"I never received any at any Time but at that Time,
and I never made any Bargain for my Vote at any Time
to any one."
"Do you mean to state that you have received Election
Money only upon the Five several Occasions you have
mentioned?"
"Five I have not said."
"One from Mr. Hannam, Two Packages in 1818, and
Two in 1820?"
"I do not say that those were on Elections."
"Do you mean to state to their Lordships that the
Sum of One Pound after the Election of 1812, and the
Sums of Twenty Guineas each after the Election of
1818, and the Sums of Twenty Guineas each after the
Election of 1820, are the only Sums you have received
in respect of any Elections?"
Mr. Adam objected to the Question, as assuming that
which the Witness had not stated.
"I declare I made no Bargain for Money. I do not
know that those were for Election Purposes. I have
received that Money in 1818 and 1820."
(Mr. Law.) "Will you state to their Lordships any
possible Reason for which you could have received it
except in respect of Elections?"
"I have no Reasons whatever; for I never made any
Bargains for my Vote, nor asked any Gentleman for
a Farthing."
"Can you state any Reason to their Lordships for the
Receipt of that Money?"
"I do not know any Reason for it. I do not know
how it came into the House; when I was in Bed at
Night, the Door was opened, and it was thrown in."
"Upon what Account, upon your Oath, do you believe
it was so received by you?"
"I cannot give no Account of that."
"Do you mean to state to their Lordships that you
have no Belief upon the Subject?"
"It might, or it might not; I cannot exactly say how
it came or by whom, for I do not know."
"State to their Lordships your Belief upon the
Subject; do you believe or not that it had respect to
the Election?"
"I really cannot say; perhaps it might."
"Upon your Oath, have you any Doubt about that?"
"It might be the Case."
"Have you the slightest Doubt about it?"
"It might be the Case, I really cannot say,"
"Have you the slightest Doubt of it?"
"I cannot speak to that, I am sure."
(By a Lord.) "You can say whether you have any
Doubt?"
"It might be for that Purpose"
"Can you say whether you have any Doubt or not?"
"I have not a Doubt but that it might be the Case."
(Mr. Law.) "Have you any Doubt that it was the
Case?"
"Well I cannot say."
"Have you any Doubt that it was the Case?"
"It might be the Case."
"Have you any Doubt that it was?"
"I do not know, I cannot speak to that exactly."
"You have been Thirty Years a Burgess?"
"Yes, and I speak the Truth to the best of my
Knowledge."
"Having been Thirty Years a Burgess, have you any
Doubt it was?"
"It might be for that Purpose."
"Have you any Doubt it was?"
"Nobody ever told me it was for that Purpose."
"Have you any Doubt that it was?"
"I do not know."
"You will not go 'till you answer the Question?"
"It might be the Case; I dare say it was."
"Have you any Doubt it was?"
"I cannot say."
"Have you any Doubt whatever that it was in respect
to the Election?"
"I dare say it was for that Purpose; I have no Doubt
that it might be."
"Have you any Doubt that it was?"
"I do not know how to answer that Question."
"You know whether you have a Doubt or not;
nobody else has probably?"
"Then I have no Doubt that it was."
"Are you acquainted with many of the Freemen?"
"Yes; I know some of them."
"Will you name One or Two that you are intimate
with?"
"I know a many."
"Mention One of the many that you have conversed
with upon the Subject of Elections?"
"I do not know that I have conversed with any on
the Subject of Elections."
"Have you had any Conversation with Freemen?"
"Concerning receiving Money do you mean?"
"Have you had any Conversation with the Freemen
in respect of Elections?"
"Yes, I have had a many Times a Conversation with
respect to electioneering."
"Have you ever heard from them, whether they were
fortunate enough to receive Packages?"
"No, I never did."
"Not from one of your numerous Acquaintance?"
"No."
"Did you ever hear them speak on the Subject of
Mr. Marsh?"
"Yes; I can speak myself, you know."
"Have you ever heard the Freemen speak upon the
Subject of Mr. Marsh?"
"Yes; I have heard that several Times, of course."
"Have you not heard Complaints from the Freemen
in respect of Mr. Marsh?"
"No, I never did."
"Do you mean to say you have never heard that
Gentleman complained of by the Freemen?"
"No; he was elected honourably."
"Did you receive any Packet after his Election?"
"No."
"Did you ever hear his not having sent Packages the
Subject of Complaint from the Freemen?"
"No; he was chosen freely. I never heard any
Complaint."
"Do you mean to state that you never heard the
Freemen complain of Mr. Marsh not having sent
Packets?"
"No; when we promised our Votes we never made
any Bargain for Money, and therefore there could be
no Complaint."
"Was the Fact so that there was a Complaint?"
"I do not know that there was any Complaint."
"Will you look at that?" (The Petition against the Bill
being shewn to the Witness.) "Do you find your Name
signed there?"
"Yes, it is there."
"That is your Name and Handwriting, "Thomas
Slaney?"
"I do not know that that is my Handwriting, but I
gave Sanction to its being signed."
"It was signed by your Authority, but not in your
Handwriting?"
"Yes."
"Do you know Mr. Fox?"
"Yes, very well."
"Have you seen him at the Time of Elections?"
"Yes; I have seen him at the Time of Election many
Times."
"Have you seen him when the Candidates were
canvassing?"
"No, never."
"Do you know his Handwriting?"
"No, I cannot say that I do."
"You, perhaps, do not know Handwriting when you
see it?"
"I do not know, I am sure."
"Do you happen to know the Handwriting on the
Packages in which the Twenty Guineas were inclosed
which you received?"
"I did not see any Handwriting; I never opened
them."
"Whom did you vote for in the Year 1826?"
"For Sir Robert Dundas and Mr. Wrightson."
Cross-examined by Mr. Adam.
"Did you see Sir Robert Dundas in the Canvass of
1826?"
"Yes."
"Did you see Mr. Wrightson?"
"Yes."
"Did they canvass you for your Vote themselves?"
"Yes."
"You promised them themselves?"
"Yes."
"Was any thing said about Money upon that
Occasion?"
"No, nothing whatever."
"Nor any thing said about Things being all right?"
"No."
"Or Joss?"
"No."
"Did you ever hear the Word "Joss?"
"Yes, many Times; when Two or Three go to get a
Gill of Ale, One says I will stand Joss for you, that is
the Meaning of it, to the best of my Knowledge."
"Did you ever hear it used in reference to any thing
but Ale?"
"No, never, or Liquor of any kind."
"One pays, and all have a Share of what is bought?"
"Yes."
"Did you ever hear the Word "Tip?"
"No, I do not know that I have."
"Or "all right?"
"No."
"When did you sign that Petition?"
"I did not sign it myself."
"When did you authorize it to be signed?"
"I cannot speak to the Day exactly; but a little Time
before the meeting of the Lords."
"What do you call a little Time before the meeting
of the Lords?"
"When I was summoned."
"How long before you were summoned?"
"I cannot exactly say."
"When were you summoned?"
"On the 28th of April."
"Do you know the Turk's Head?"
"Yes."
"Do you know whether there is a Birmingham Club
held there?"
"I believe there is."
"What is the Landlord's Name?"
"It is a Landlady; Mrs. Ann Clark."
"Do you ever go to the Turk's Head yourself?"
"Very seldom; but I go sometimes, because I am in
a sick Club that meets there."
"Do you know who are the Members of the Birmingham Club?"
"No, I cannot speak to that."
"What Business are you in?"
"I am a Cordwainer."
"Were you at the Election in 1826?"
"Yes."
"At the Poll?"
"Yes."
"Did you see any Stones thrown at the Returning
Officer?"
"No; I was not there at the Time."
"Was the Town quiet, or was there any Disturbance?"
"It was quiet Part of the Time, while the polling was
over."
"Do you remember the Military being sent for?"
"Yes."
"On what Day was that; was it the Day of the
polling?"
"Yes, the Day of the polling."
"Are you a Freeman of any other Town?"
"No."
"In 1812 did you promise Mr. Marsh as well as
Mr. Osbaldeston?"
"Yes."
Examined by the Lords.
"Did any body desire you to sign that Petition?"
"No."
"Are you to pay any Part of the Expences of prosecuting that Petition?"
"No, not that I know of."
"Have you paid any?"
"No."
"You do not expect to pay any?"
"No."
"Have you appointed any Agent or Counsel to
prosecute that Petition?"
"No."
The Witness was directed to withdraw.
Then Broxholme Slaney was called in; and having been
sworn, was examined as follows:
(Mr. Price.) "Are you a Freeman of Retford?"
"Yes."
"How long have you been a Freeman of Retford?"
"Nine-and-thirty Years."
"Do you remember the Election of 1812, when
Mr. Osbaldeston and Mr. Marsh were Candidates?"
"Yes."
"Did you upon that Occasion promise your Vote to
those Gentlemen?"
"Yes."
"After that Election did you receive any Money?"
"I do not know that I did for that Purpose; I
received some at one Time; but whether for that
Purpose I cannot say."
"Did you receive any Money after that Election of
1812?"
"Nobody never told me it was for that Purpose; I
did receive some."
"Did you receive any Money after that Election?"
"I did."
"Where was it?"
"At the Angel Inn."
"Was Mr. Hannam present?"
"Yes."
"Was any other Person present?"
"There was another old Gentleman, but I did not
know him."
"How much did you receive?"
"I am sure I do not know whether it was Twenty
Pounds or Twenty Guineas."
"Who gave it you?"
"It was either the old Gentleman or Mr. Hannam;
which it was I do not know."
"Do you remember the Election of 1818, when
Mr. Crompton and Mr. Evans were Candidates for the
first Time?"
"Yes."
"Did you promise your Vote to those Gentlemen?"
"Yes."
"Did you receive any Money after that Election?"
"Yes."
"How did you receive it?"
"It came in a Packet; may be it might be Half a
Year or a Year after, I cannot say."
"Was it in One Packet or Two?"
"One."
"How much did you receive?"
"Twenty."
"Recollect yourself?"
"I got Two Packets, but not both One Night, I
think."
"You received Two Packets at Two different
Times?"
"Yes."
"What did they contain severally?"
"Twenty Guineas each, I think."
"Do you know who brought them to you?"
"No, I do not, indeed; they called me up in the Night,
and gave them to me at the Door."
"In the Year 1821, do you recollect the Second
Election of Mr. Crompton and Mr. Evans?"
"Yes."
"Did you promise your Vote to them again?"
"Yes."
"Did you receive any Money after that Election?"
"Yes, Two Packets containing Twenty each."
"Are you well acquainted with the Freemen of the
Town of East Retford, having lived there so long?"
"I know a great many of them."
"Have you ever had any Conversation with them,
respecting whether they were as fortunate as you?"
"Oh no; I always looked to myself; I never minded
any body else."
"That is not an Answer to the Question?"
"I never conversed with any body but myself."
"Have you Two Sons?"
"No, I have only One."
"Is he a Freeman of Retford?"
"Yes."
"How long has he been a Freeman?"
"I am sure I do not know; about Seven-and-twenty
Years, I should think. No; he has not been so long
as that, he is only Twenty-seven Years old. I cannot
say in what Year he was admitted."
"Did he ever vote at any Election?"
"Yes, I think he did."
"To your own Knowledge did he ever promise at any
Election?"
"I do not know that he did."
"Was he a Freeman in the Year 1820, before the
Second Election of Mr. Crompton and Mr. Evans?"
"I am sure I cannot say if he was a Freeman at the
First Election."
"The Second Election of 1820, I ask you to?"
"Yes, he was."
"What is his Name?"
"George."
"Do you know whether he has not received Money
since the Election of 1820, upon your Oath?"
"I am sure I do not know that he did."
"Had you any Conversation with him respecting it?"
"No."
"You have never heard him say any thing upon that
Subject?"
"I heard him say that he got it at one Election, but
which I do not know."
"What did he say he had got?"
"He did not tell me; he said he had got a Packet."
"Is he alive now?"
"Yes."
"His Name is George Slaney?"
"Yes."
"Do you mean to say that he was a Freeman in the
Year 1818, the first Election of Mr. Crompton and
Mr. Evans?"
"I cannot say whether he was or was not."
"But in 1820 you do remember his being a Freeman?"
"Yes."
"Was it since that Time you heard that Statement
from him?"
"Yes."
"Look at that." (The Petition against the Bill being
shewn to the Witness.) "Is that Signature your Name and
Handwriting?"
"Yes, it is."
"Who brought that Paper to you?"
"I am sure I do not know."
"When was it brought to you?"
"I do not know; but I remember signing it in the
Street."
"Who presented it to you in the Street?"
"John Richardson."
"Who is he?"
"He is a Freeman of Retford."
"Any Connection of Mr. Mee?"
"Not that I know of."
"Who is Mr. John Richardson; in what Line of Life
is he?"
"He is a Shoemaker at Retford."
"Whom did you vote for in the Year 1826; Sir Henry
Wright Wilson, Sir Robert Dundas and Mr. Wrightson
were the Candidates?"
"Wrightson and Dundas I voted for."
Cross-examined by Mr. Alderson.
"How old is your Son George?"
"I am sure I cannot say how old he is."
"Is he your eldest Son?"
"Yes."
"How long have you been married?"
"He is about Thirty-six Years old."
"He would be about Twenty-six in the Year 1820; is
not that so?"
"Yes."
"You said he was Twenty-seven just now?"
"Well, I meant to say Thirty-seven."
"When did he tell you that he had got a Packet?"
"It was in Crompton and Evans's last Election."
"When?"
"I do not know; it was their last Election."
"When did he tell you that he had got a Packet?"
"The Morning I got mine."
"When was that?"
"I am sure I do not know the Month."
"Do you know the Year?"
"It was after the Election."
"In what Year was that?"
"I am sure I do not know."
"If you had received it Yesterday that would be after
the Election?"
"It might be Half a Year after the Election, or it
might be less."
"You say you voted for Wrightson and Dundas?"
"Yes."
"Were you canvassed by them?"
"Yes."
"Did any thing pass on the Canvass about Twenty
Guineas, or "it is all right," or any thing of that
Kind?"
"No."
"Have you received any thing since that?"
"No."
"The last Election was in 1826; Four Years ago?"
"Yes."
"You did not receive any thing then?"
"No, nothing."
"Was there much rioting at the last Election?"
"Yes."
"Do you know whether the Senior Bailiff was struck
over the Head with a Stone?"
"I cannot remember that."
"Did you see him with his Head tied up?"
"No, I did not."
"You do not know whether any other Person was
equally fortunate?"
"Mr. Wrightson and Sir Robert Dundas were very illused."
"What was done to them?"
"The People that were in the Town ill-used them."
"In what Way did they ill-use them?"
"They stoned him, and tore his Coat; but I do not
know who it was."
"Which of them was stoned, and which had his Coat
torn?"
"I believe both of them."
"What was it for?"
"Because they did not like them; Wilson's Set did
not like them, and they ill-used them."
"What was the Reason that Wilson's Set did not like
them?"
"I do not know."
"Was there any Cry?"
"I never heard any Cry; indeed, I never see'd them
come out of the Hall, but I heard it mentioned that
they did ill-use them in their Way."
"Was there much rioting at the last Election?"
"I never see'd any."
"Do you know of any Club that is called the Birmingham Club?"
"There was a Blue Club they used to cry every
Week."
"Where did they meet?"
"They used to cry it in the Town."
(Mr. Price.) "How do you know that?"
"They used to cry where they were to meet, at such
a House."
(By a Lord.) "Do you know it of your own
Knowledge?"
"I have heard it cried so; the Bellman has gone
round the Town to cry that they were to meet at such
a Place."
(Mr. Alderson.) "Have you heard the Bellman
summon the Club to meet?"
"I have heard him cry the Blue Club to meet at such
a Public House, such a Night."
"At what Public House?"
"They used to meet One Week at One House, and
One at another."
"Do you know William Clark of the Turk's Head?"
"Yes."
"Do you know of any Club that meets at the Turk's
Head?"
"No; I know the Turk's Head very well, but I do
not know of any Club meeting there."
"You say you have been a Freeman Thirty-nine Years;
how many Elections have you voted at altogether?"
"There was Mr. Petre's."
"Go backwards."
"Wrightson and Dundas, then Crompton and Evans
Twice."
"Who was the One before that?"
"Osbaldeston and Marsh."
"Did you vote at that?"
"Yes; -the Two Inglebys, and Bowles and Petre."
"How many Packets altogether have you ever received
at those Three Elections?"
"I never received any while Osbaldeston's."
"After Three Elections did you receive those Packets?"
"Yes."
"Have there been Five Elections, including the One
in which no Packets have been received by you?"
"Yes."
"Including the last?"
"I got none at the last."
"Had you any Promise even on the Three you did
receive?"
"No."
"Or any thing said to you, before you voted, respecting them?"
"No."
"At what Period after the Election of Mr. Osbaldeston
was it you did receive that?"
"I should think not less than a Year afterwards."
"In the other Case, several Months after?"
"Yes."
"And you never had any Promise or Undertaking
beforehand?"
"Never in my Life; I never had a Promise made to
me before the Election in my Life."
Re-examined by Mr. Price.
"How many Elections did you vote at previously to
Mr. Osbaldeston's Election; there was an Election in
1807, was there not; Sir William Ingleby's?"
"Yes."
"Did you vote at that Election?"
"Yes."
"Was there an Election in 1806; Sir John Ingleby's?"
"Yes; I voted then."
"Was there an Election in 1802, when Mr. Bowles was
a Candidate?"
"Yes; I voted for him."
"Was Mr. Bowles successful?"
"No; he lost his Election."
"For whom did you vote?"
"For him."
"In the Year 1806, for whom did you vote, when Sir
John Ingleby was a Candidate?"
"I voted for John Ingleby and Crawford; I think
there was Crawford."
"Did you receive any thing after the Election of
Mr. Crawford, and the Contest of Sir John Ingleby?"
"No."
"The Election of 1807, Sir William Ingleby's?"
"No, I voted for him and Crawford again."
"You received nothing then?"
"No."
"You stated to my Learned Friend that you had not
received a Packet; did you receive any Money?"
"No."
"You received nothing after the Election?"
"No."
"Nor from any Person on their Account?"
"To my Knowledge, I never did."
"Did you receive any Money from any Person after
those Three Elections, upon your Oath?"
"The first Money that I got was at Osbaldeston's, then
Crompton's and Evans's; that was all which I got."
"Do you mean to say, positively, that you received no
Money after those Elections, or that you do not recollect it?"
"Yes, I had none."
(By a Lord.) "Was Mr. Crawford successful in his
Election?"
"He came in with Ingleby."
"Was that Petition you signed a Petition to be heard
by Counsel against this Bill?"
"Yes."
"Are you to pay any Portion of the Expence of these
Counsel?"
"No; I never heard any more than, "Will you sign
this; and I did. I never heard what it was for, only
it was a Petition to be heard by Counsel."
"You instructed no Person to employ Counsel?"
"Oh dear no."
"You do not understand that you are to pay any Part
of the Expences?"
"No."
"Did you understand that the Petition was from the
Freemen of Retford, praying that the Borough might
not be disfranchised?"
"Yes."
"And you signed it with that View?"
"Yes; that it might not be disfranchised."
The Witness was directed to withdraw.
Then Benjamin Scott was called in; and having been
sworn, was examined as follows:
(Mr. Law.) "Is your Name Benjamin Scott?"
"It is."
"Are you a Burgess of Retford?"
"I believe I am."
"Have you a Doubt of it; have you voted?"
"Yes."
"Did you vote at the last Election?"
"Yes."
"Were you admitted in 1810?"
"Yes, I believe I was."
"Do you recollect the Election, in 1812, of Mr. Marsh
and Mr. Osbaldeston?"
"Very well I do."
"Did you receive any Money after that Election?"
"Why, I believe I received something; but I forget
now what it was."
"Was it as much as Twenty Guineas, or less?"
"Less, I believe."
"Pounds or Guineas?"
"I do not know; I cannot speak to that."
"Whom did you promise your Vote to at that
Election?"
"To Mr. Marsh."
"Did you promise Mr. Osbaldeston?"
"I told him if the Candidate from the Newcastle Party
did not come, I should serve him; but if he came I
could not."
"What did you mean by the Newcastle Party; what
was the Gentleman's Name, the Candidate for the
Newcastle Party?"
"I cannot say; he was to have been the Third Man,
but I cannot say what his Name was to be."
"That if the Candidate from the Newcastle Party, the
Third Man, did not come you would vote for Mr. Osbaldeston?"
"Yes."
"He did not come?"
"Not that I know of."
"Did you promise your Vote after that to Mr. Osbaldeston?"
"The Election was quite at hand, and I did not come
over 'till the Election came. I did not attend at the
Hall, as there was no voting at the Hall."
"Did you go to the Angel about Two Years afterwards,
and call on Mr. Hannam and a strange Gentleman
there?"
"Yes."
"Was it on that Occasion you got a Sum of Money,
the Amount of which you do not recollect?"
"I do not know; it might be; I cannot tell what was
done; something allowed for my Expences of living
away from Retford; and it was for that."
"How many Miles did you live from Retford, as you
expected something for your Expences?"
"Between Five and Six Miles."
"Living so far as Five or Six Miles, how much was
it you had for your Travelling Expences to Retford?"
"I cannot speak to the Sum."
"Was it much less than Twenty Guineas for the Five
Miles?"
"It was under Twenty Guineas."
"Was it something above Nineteen?"
"I cannot speak to the Sum, it is so long since."
"Will you undertake to say it was not Nineteen?"
"I cannot speak to the Sum."
"But whatever it was you thought it was Travelling
Expences for the Five Miles?"
"I did not know what it was for; I was quite a young
Burgess at the Time."
"What Expences did you consider they were; were
they for Travelling or otherwise?"
"I did not know. I was a young Burgess, just
attained my Freedom. I had been a long while from
Retford, not being apprenticed in it, that I did not
know nothing about it."
"When you stated to their Lordships that you
believed it was for your Expences, what did you
mean?"
"I expected there would be something allowed me
for the Loss of my Time; I was there Four or Five
Days of the Election, and afterwards."
"Did you consider it was for the Loss of your Time?"
"I could not consider it any otherwise."
"Did you consider it was for the Loss of your Time?"
"I could not consider it otherwise."
"What were your Earnings a Day at the Time?"
"I had a Guinea a Week, and my House Rent-free,
under Mr. Jackson of Markham Moor."
"And you lost Four or Five Days?"
"I employed a Man to officiate for my Work; I had
him to pay."
"What do you think you got for your Expences,
having employed a Man to officiate for you?"
"Perhaps I might be a Pound or Two into Pocket by
it, but I do not know."
"How many Pounds did you put into your Pocket
altogether?"
"I cannot speak any more to that."
"Will you undertake to say you did not receive Twenty
Guineas?"
"I will."
"Will you undertake to say you did not receive
Nineteen?"
"I will."
"Did you receive Fifteen?"
"I cannot speak to the Sum."
"Can you undertake to say you did not receive Ten?"
"I received some Money."
"How much did you receive?"
"I was denied on first entering the Room; I was told
there was nothing for me."
"Were you more fortunate afterwards?"
"I believe I was; I received some Money, as I considered for my Expences."
"Have you any Doubt it was Ten Guineas?"
"I have no Doubt to say what it was."
"Do you believe it was Ten Guineas?"
"It might be more, or it might be less."
"We are aware of that; what do you believe it was?"
"It is of no Use my speaking it now-I cannot."
"Whom did you promise your Vote to at the Election
of 1818?"
"Mr. Crompton and Mr. Evans, I believe."
"Are you clear who the Persons were to whom you
promised?"
"Yes; I believe they were the Two Candidates."
"After that Election did you receive any Money-
any Packets?"
"Yes."
"How many Packets after the Election of 1818?"
"Two, I think."
"What did those Packets contain?"
"I think they contained Twenty Pounds."
"Pounds or Guineas-Twenty-one Pounds or Twenty
Pounds?"
"Well, they might be Twenty-one Pounds."
"Have you any Doubt that they did contain Twentyone Pounds?"
"I have no Doubt they might."
"Whom did you promise at the Election in 1820?"
"The same Candidates."
"Did you receive any Packets after that Election?"
"Yes, I believe I did."
"Have you any Doubt that you did?"
"I think not."
"Have you any Doubt?"
"I have no Doubt at all."
"What did they contain, those Packets?"
"They contained, I believe, the same as those before."
"Twenty Guineas each?"
"Yes."
"Be good enough to look at that, (the Petition against
the Bill being shewn to the Witness,) and state whether
that is in your Handwriting?"
"Yes."
"Do you bear any Expences of this Petition against
the Bill?"
"Not to my Knowledge; I do not know that I do."
"Do you employ Counsel?"
"I was asked, by the Burgesses of the Town, to
employ Counsel to speak at the Bar; but I cannot say
whether I am to be at any Expence at present; perhaps
I may."
"Who was the managing Man for your Party, for the
Freeman? Do you know Alderman Parker?"
"Yes."
"Is he an active Partizan for the Petition?"
"I believe not."
"Who is the managing Person on your Behalf?"
"I do not know; I think we are almost without an
active Man."
"Do you remember, when you received One of your
Packets after the Election of Mr. Evans and Mr. Crompton, whether you saw Westby Leadbeater?"
"No, I do not remember seeing him."
"Did you sign any Paper when you received One of
the Packets?"
"Not to my Knowledge at all."
"Did you know Westby Leadbeater?"
"I knew him very well."
"Was he the Town Crier?"
"Yes."
"Do you remember his calling upon you at the Time
the Packet was delivered?"
"He never called upon me at all."
"You did not see him?"
"No."
"Did you sign any Paper in Acknowledgment of
having received any Packet?"
"No; I believe I never signed any Paper of the
Kind; I never had such a thing put to me to my
Knowledge."
"Do you know Thomas Bailey the Saddler?"
"Yes."
"Whom did you vote for at the last Election?"
"For Sir Robert Dundas and Mr. Wrightson."
"Did you receive any Promise before you gave your
Vote?"
"None at all."
"Are you sure you did not?"
"I am certain of it."
"Have you never said so?"
"Thomas Bailey perhaps was a Man that would begin
to annoy and plague People, and I might say in some
little Way of Nonsense, or something of that Kind; but
I never had any Promise from any Person."
"Did you in a Way of Nonsense tell Thomas Bailey
you had a Promise?"
"Not that I recollect any such a thing; he has told
me of it, but I do not know any thing of such a
thing."
"You cannot say that you did not tell Thomas Bailey
you had a Promise?"
"I cannot say; indeed there have been so many
People baiting us, but there never was such a thing;
I never received a Farthing from any Person, neither
did I expect it."
"Did not you say you had been guaranteed against
the last Election?"
"I never said it to my Knowledge to any Person
living."
"Not to Thomas Bailey?"
"No, not to Thomas Bailey, nor no other Person."
Cross-examined by Mr. Adam.
"A good many People have been speaking to you
about promising, have they?"
"A great many."
"Did the People endeavour to make you say you had
Promise?"
"No Doubt of it, and on Purpose that they might
come up here to get the Expences of their coming."
"Can you tell me some of the Names of the Persons
who have endeavoured to induce you to say that you
had been promised?"
"I can tell you the Name of one who told me the
Thursday before I came from Retford, that they would
give me Thirty Guineas if I would give up my
Chance; I believe he was an Enemy to our Concern."
"What was his Name?"
"His Name was Fisher."
"Is he a Freeman?"
"No."
"What is Fisher?"
"He is a Grocer."
"Do you know whether he belongs to the Birmingham
Club?"
"I have no Doubt of it."
"Do you know it?"
"I did not know the Fact, for I never saw them meet
before."
"Did he take a Share in any Elections though he is
not a Freeman?"
"It appears as if he was taking a Share in this."
"Did he take any Share in the Election of 1826?"
"I cannot say that he took any Share in it."
"Did you see him wear any Colours?"
"No; I do not know that he did."
"Has he busied himself about this Enquiry since it
began?"
"Very much; I have had several Conversations with
him, and it has been chiefly upon this Subject."
"Can you tell me the Name of any One Person who
has been baiting you upon this Subject?"
"I do not know: I have had several little Baits and
Nonsense in those Persons saying they might beat us,
and should beat us; but I did not know how they
could."
"Have you got any acting Man on your Side?"
"No."
"Have not you got Mr. Hannam, or some one like
him, on your Side; or Mr. Newton?"
"I wish we had."
"Have you any body like Mr. Newton on your Side?"
"No; I should be very sorry."
"Or Mr. Sharp?"
"No."
"Or Mr. Fisher?"
"No, I do not want none of them."
"Or Mr. Buttevant; do you know him?"
"Yes."
"What is he?"
"He is a Draper."
"Does he take a Share in this Proceeding?"
"I have been told so."
"Do you know whether any of those People get
Witnesses together, and send them up?"
"I have no Doubt of it, by what I have heard."
"When did you sign that Petition which has been
shewn to you?"
"I am sure I do not know."
"How long before you were sent for here?"
"I do not know; it bears Date at the Time."
"How do you know that you saw it on the Day it
bears Date?"
"That I do not know."
"Where do you live now?"
"In East Retford."
"How long have you lived there?"
"I have lived there about Twelve Years, I think."
"Were you living there at the Election of 1818; had
you come into the Town at that Time?"
"I believe not; I think I was at Markham Moor at
the Time Mr. Crompton and Mr. Evans canvassed me
first."
"Were you a Waiter at Markham Moor?"
"I was a Blacksmith and Farrier."
"Did you keep a Shop of your own?"
"I was a Journeyman."
"On the Occasion of 1814, you state that you received
only One or Two Pounds beyond that you would have
made if you had remained at Home?"
"No, I am sure I did not; it was not much more."
"How long were you kept away from Home?"
"Perhaps a Week; perhaps a little more."
"Who was the Person that was expected to come
into the Town for the Newcastle Party, the Third
Candidate?"
"I think there was one named Dochin. I think there
was, but I am not certain."
"If he had come you would have voted for him?"
"Undoubtedly."
"Why should you have voted for the Man in the
Newcastle Party?"
"Because Master Jackson, my Employer, had a large
Farm under The Duke of Newcastle, and the House I
lived in belonged to his Noble Grace."
"Your Master rented under him, and you would
have voted for the Man belonging to the Newcastle
Party?"
"Yes."
"Was the Gentleman's Name that was expected
Dawkins?"
"I think that was the Name."
"Did you ever see him in Retford before?"
"Not to my Knowledge."
"Has he ever come since to Retford?"
"Not to my Knowledge."
"Had you any Reason for voting for Mr. Dawkins,
except that you rented under The Duke of Newcastle?"
"I thought I should be very ungrateful if I did not
vote for the Friend of my Master."
"You would have done that without Consideration?"
"Yes."
"Did your Master make you a Promise that if you
voted for Mr. Dawkins it should be better for you?"
"My Master knew nothing about it till the Election
was over."
"You would have voted on your individual Impulse?"
"Yes."
"By the Newcastle Party, you mean the Party supporting the Interest of The Duke of Newcastle?"
"Yes."
"Is that an old Party?"
"I have no Doubt of it."
"Have you know of it ever since you knew the
Town?"
"Yes."
"Have Members been returned upon that Interest?"
"They call them The Duke of Newcastle's Men."
"Tell me the Names of them; was General Crawford
one of them?"
"I have no Doubt of it, though it was before my
Time."
"Was Sir William Ingleby one?"
"I was not of Age at that Election."
"What was the first Election you remember since you
were a Freeman?"
"Osbaldeston's."
"Osbaldeston's and Marsh's?"
"Yes."
"Do you remember Mr. Ewing being elected, or
Ewan?"
"I remember the Election."
"Were you old enough to know on whose Interest he
stood?"
"He was on the Newcastle Interest, as was supposed."
"Was not it notorious in the Town that he stood on
the Newcastle Interest?"
"I am sure I cannot tell."
"Did not every Person say so?"
"It was said that they thought one ought to be the
Go of the Day."
"Was not it as notorious as any Fact in the World,
that Mr. Ewan stood in the Interest of The Duke of
Newcastle?"
"It might not appear to be the Wish of the Town
that he should; but it was the Case."
"He was returned?"
"Yes."
"Who was returned along with him?"
"I think General Crawford."
"Did General Crawford stand upon the Interest of
The Duke of Newcastle?"
"Undoubtedly."
"Do you remember a Gentleman of the Name of
Jeffery?"
"I remember the Name, but I cannot speak to knowing
the Man."
"Do you remember whether Mr. Jeffery came in on
the Interest of The Duke of Newcastle?"
"I have no Doubt of it."
"Did you know Sir John Eamer when he was returned
for the Borough?"
"I think Sir John Eamer was not returned."
"Whose Interest did he stand on; the Newcastle
Interest?"
"I do not know; he came to that Party, but I believe
he ran away with the Battle on his Back."
"As long as he did fight he fought under the Duke's
Colours?"
"He joined that Party."
"What were the Duke's Colours?"
"Pink."
"Were they the same Colours that Sir Henry Wright
Wilson had in 1826?"
"Sir Henry Wright Wilson at his first coming had
Blue, after that he took to the Pink."
"Before the Election was over he became Pink too?"
"Yes."
"The Duke of Newcastle has had a long standing
powerful Interest in the Borough, has not he?"
"Yes."
"And returned many Members to Parliament?"
"I have no Doubt of it."
Re-examined by Mr. Law.
"Have you any Knowledge of your own, of the Duke
having returned a single Member?"
"Only by what was represented to me; The Duke of
Newcastle's Party."
"When was Sir John Eamer a Candidate?"
"He was a Candidate at the Time of Bowles's Election,
I think."
"Were you a Burgess at the Time?"
"No."
"How old were you then?"
"I was, perhaps, about Twelve Years of Age."
"That was what you heard when you were Twelve
Years of Age, which you have told my Learned
Friend?"
"Yes."
"Did you state to my Learned Friend that you lost a
Week of your Time in the Time of 1812?"
"I believe I did."
"Did you lose Fifteen Minutes; was there any
polling?"
"No, it was unexpected, for he did not come."
"Did you lose a Week in expecting the Third Candidate?"
"Not the Election Day; a Day or Two afterwards, I
lost my Time."
(By a Lord.) "Were you present at the Election of
1826?"
"Yes, I was."
"Were you in the Town at that Period?"
"Yes."
"Were you in the Town previous to that?"
"I lived in the Town then."
"Do you remember Sir Henry Wright Wilson coming
there first?"
"Yes, very well."
"Did he stand on what was called the No Popery
Cry?"
"That was what he stood on."
"Did you hear him make any Speeches from the Broad
Stone?"
"I went to hear him once."
"Did you hear him?"
"Part of it."
"Had that Part you did hear any Relation to the
Catholic Question?"
"It was all on the Catholic Question I did hear."
"Was he for it or against it?"
"Against it."
"Did he tell the Burgesses that any Danger would
arise to the Constitution?"
"That a very great Danger would arise to it."
"Did he name the Names of any Persons in either
House of Parliament that were against it?"
"I did not hear it."
"Was there any Clergyman who spoke about the
Catholics there?"
"I did not hear him."
"Were the Military brought in?"
"Yes."
"What Time was that?"
"I think about Half past Four o'Clock, or it might be
a little sooner."
"On the last Election?"
"Yes."
"Did any rioting take place?"
"A great deal."
"Had any Officers of the Corporation been insulted?"
"Yes, I believe they had."
"Was the Bailiff stoned?"
"Yes."
"Was the Town Clerk spit upon?"
"I did not see that; but I have no Doubt of it."
"For how many Months before the Election was this
sort of voting going on?"
"Oh, a long while."
"Was there a good deal of Drunkenness going on?"
"Yes, I believe there was some Drink stirring."
"On the No Popery Party?"
"Yes."
"Did the other Candidates parade the Town?"
"No, very rarely; Once or Twice they might shew
off, but very little was done."
"They had a Hop there Once, had they not?"
"Yes."
"Were the Voters in that Interest insulted as they
went to that Hop?"
"Yes."
"It was very bad before that?"
"Yes, very bad."
"Were the Ladies insulted?"
"Yes."
"What did they do to the Ladies?"
"They made them glad to get out of the Way as
quick as they could from the blackguard Mob after
them."
"Can you speak to any particular Fact?"
"I cannot speak to any Facts generally; I lost a good
Coat, and got my Eyes blacked in getting out of the
Way of them."
"Did any thing of that kind happen to the Ladies; had
they their Coats taken off?"
"I cannot speak of that, but I have no Doubt some of
them got their Clothes torn."
"Had they any of them their Eyes blacked?"
"That I cannot speak to."
"Did those Eye Blackers compose the Majority of the
Freemen?"
"I should almost doubt whether there was any Freemen at all in the Mob; but it was merely hired Bullies,
or Fellows hardened on by Drink to do it."
"They were not Freemen of Retford?"
"Very few; the Freemen fell back out of the Street;
they had not a Party strong enough for them."
"How many of them were Voters of Retford?"
"I suppose this Party did not consist of One Third
the Number we had."
"After having stoned the Bailiff, did they go and light
a Fire before his Door?"
"They made One in the Market Place."
"Does he live in the Market Place?"
"He lives in the Market Place."
"Was the Fire near his House?"
"Not the One I saw."
"Did any body ever come to you to ask you to come
and give Evidence against the Borough?"
"I might have had that Question put to me."
"Who put it to you?"
"I believe Sharp."
"Who is he?"
"He is a Person living in the Town; he is no Inhabitant; he is a Lodger in it."
"What is his Christian Name?"
"I do not know."
"Had you ever seen him before?"
"Oh yes, I have seen him."
"Was he a Burgess?"
"No."
"How long has he lived there?"
"Several Years; Three or Four."
"Does he follow any Trade there?"
"A Timber Merchant."
"What did he say?"
"He said it would be a good thing for me, if I would
go and give Evidence against the Borough."
"Did you ask him what that good thing would be."
"He said it would be a good thing for me; that I
should get esteemed by the Townspeople, and get well
paid for my Trouble."
"Did he tell you who was to pay you?"
"No, he did not."
"What did you say?"
"I said I could not do it; I did not know any thing
that would criminate them."
"He did not tell you from whom the Money was to
come?"
"No."
"Did he say any thing about Birmingham?"
"He showed me a Watch, and said, "This comes
from Birmingham for my Services."
"What sort of Watch was it?"
"A Gold Watch."
"Did he tell you who had sent it him?"
"No; he did not name the Name."
"Does he belong to the Birmingham Club?"
"I have no Doubt of it."
"How long has the Blue Club been established in
Retford?"
"Oh, it was established, I should think, perhaps a Year
and a Half before Election of 1826."
"Was that the same Club that goes by the Name of
the Birmingham Club?"
"No; the Blue Club was all kinds of People in the
Town and Country round. Several of my Customers
came and said, if I would not turn from my Word, from
Sir Robert Dundas and Wrightson, to vote for Henry
Wilson, it was the last Job I should do for them. I
told them then it might be so; there were several Friends
whom I lost before the Election on that Account, who
have not returned, except One."
"They endeavoured to induce you to break your
Promise to Dundas and Wrightson?"
"Yes."
"In consequence of your not doing so, you lost their
Custom?"
"Yes; in consequence of that I lost my Custom."
"Do you know a Person of the Name of Richard
Hannam?"
"Yes."
"What is he?"
"An Attorney."
"Is he in great Business in Retford?"
"I cannot speak to his Business; I believe he is Clerk
to the Magistrates; but I have so little Business with
the Attornies, that I do not understand whether they
have a fair Business or not."
"Had you any Business with him?"
"No, not any thing in particular."
"Did Hannam ever come to you about this Election?"
"No, I believe not."
"Did any of his Clerks ever come to you?"
"I have met with One of his Clerks, who spoke to me
about it; but not to come to any particular Proposals."
"Was that Newton?"
"Yes; I have talked a little with Newton; but he made
no Proposal of Electioneering Matters."
"Did Newton tell you any thing about the Disfranchisement of the Borough?"
"Well, I cannot speak to it; I had some Talk about
it; but I took so little Notice of it, not expecting to have
any thing to do with it, that I cannot say."
"Did you understand from him that he was engaged
in getting Evidence to disfranchise the Borough?"
"I cannot speak to that."
"You stated that you got Two Black Eyes, and a Coat
torn?"
"Yes, I did."
"And the Bailiff got his Head broken?"
"I did not see his Head broke; but he got stoned."
"And the Town Clerk got spit upon?"
"I heard that, but I did not see it."
"Who else got Black Eyes?"
"There is another Witness here in the Hall now that
got his Coat torn at the same Time that I got mine,
and I believe a Black Eye too."
"What was his Name?"
"Bailey."
"What Bailey?"
"Bailey as keeps the Mermaid Public House."
"Do you know Mr. Fox?"
"Yes."
"Who is he?"
"He is Clerk to Mr. Foljambe."
"Was he at that Ball you have spoken of?"
"I do not know."
"Was he at the Hop where you got your Black
Eyes?"
"It was in the Street I got my Black Eye, not at the
Hop."
"Was Mr. Fox at the Hop?"
"I do not recollect seeing him."
"Was the Town Clerk there?"
"I do not know, I am sure; I cannot speak to that;
I merely went in and out to look; but it is not what I
was accustomed to myself; I do not know much about
it."
"Was Mr. Fox stoned?"
"I believe he has been stoned several Times."
"What for?"
"Because he was supposed to be a Friend to the
Purple Party."
"Which was the Purple Party?"
"Sir Robert Dundas and Mr. Wrightson's Friends."
"You belong to the Purple Party?"
"Yes."
"Were you very active for the Purple Party?"
"I was very active sometimes; but then I had only
my own Power."
"Was Mr. Fox very active?"
"He appeared to be very active."
"He went about canvassing, did he?"
"I do not know whether he canvassed or not."
"Do you remember his making a Speech from the
Broad Stone?"
"No, I do not remember his making a Speech from
there; I think he dare not get on there to make one."
"He made himself very obnoxious to the Voters?"
"To the No Popery Party."
"They were very much afraid of him?"
"No; he was very much afraid of them."
"The Town Clerk got spit upon?"
"I heard it said so."
"Why did the Town Clerk get spit upon?"
"Because he was considered a Friend to the Purple
Interest."
"Was he a Friend to the Purple Interest?"
"I do not believe he was more a Friend than an
Enemy; I believe he was very fair on both Sides; but
they would make him be of one Side."
"Which Side would they make him be of?"
"He was forced to take care of himself."
"Which was the Way of his taking care of himself?"
"To keep out of their Way; there was no other
Way."
"Did Alderman Parker get any Black Eyes?"
"I believe he has in his Time."
"He was a very active Man?"
"Yes."
"Which Side was he?"
"The Purple Side."
"They were all against the Purple Party?"
"It was all against them; if you would go over to
their Party, they would carry you round the Town."
"Did William Cartwright get Black Eyes?"
"I think he was insulted one Evening."
"Was he very active?"
"He was as active as the rest of us; we were all
desirous of bringing our Men in."
"Was not be more active than some of the rest?"
"He was very active, I believe; but he was a very
quiet Man; he was a Man that stirred very little
about."
"Do you know Mr. Hannam?"
"Yes."
"Had you not some Conversation with him?"
"Very little."
"Are you quite sure you never talked to him about
the Disfranchisement of the Borough?"
"I do not know that I have spoken to Mr. Hannam
about the Disfranchisement of the Borough."
"Are you quite sure you never talked to Mr. Hannam
about the Disfranchisement of the Borough?"
"Mr. Hannam and me have had very little Conversation together."
"Have you talked to Sharp upon it?"
"Sharp and me have had several Conversations upon
the Subject."
"Has he any Connection with Mr. Hannam?"
"I do not know; but I make no Doubt that he has
Connections along with Mr. Hannam's Clerk."
"Do you know that?"
"I have frequently seen them together."
"Have you Reason to believe, from what he said
about the Gold Watch, and so forth, that it came from
Mr. Hannam?"
"I do not know whom it came from; but he said,
Look you there; this comes from Birmingham."
"Have you seen him and Mr. Hannam's Clerk very
often together?"
"I have."
"The Witness was directed to withdraw.
"Then John Holt was called in; and having been sworn,
was examined as follows:
(Mr. Price.) "Are you a Freeman of Retford?"
"Yes."
"How many Years have you been a Freeman of
Retford?"
"More than Thirty?"
"Do you recollect the Election of 1812, when Mr. Osbaldeston and Mr. Marsh were Candidates?"
"Yes."
"Did you promise either of those Gentlemen?"
"Yes."
"After that Election, did you receive any Money or
Packets?"
"Yes."
"What did you receive?"
"Twenty Guineas."
"From whom?"
"I was sent for to the Angel Inn by some Gentleman,
(I do not know who he was,) and he gave me a Packet
with Twenty Guineas, and said, "Mrs. Osbaldeston"
(those were the Words he said to me,) "sent that as a
Present."
"Was Mr. Hannam at the Time present in the Angel
Inn?"
"I believe he was."
"Did you know the Person who presented you with
that Packet?"
"I did not."
"Do you remember the Election of 1818, when
Mr. Crompton and Mr. Evans were Candidates for the
first Time?"
"Yes."
"Did you promise those Gentlemen?"
"Yes."
"Did you receive any thing after that Election?"
"Yes."
"What?"
"A Packet was chucked into my House, about Eleven
o'Clock; my Master opened the Door, and chucked it
in; I was not at Home."
"Did you receive One or Two Packets after that
Election?"
"Two, I think."
"What did they contain?"
"Twenty each."
"Do you mean Twenty Pounds or Twenty Guineas?"
"Twenty Guineas."
"Do you remember the Second Election of 1820,
when Mr. Crompton and Mr. Evans were Candidates
again?"
"Yes."
"Did you promise your Vote to them again?"
"Yes."
"After that Election, did you receive any Money?"
"Yes; the same."
"Two Packets, containing what, each?"
"Twenty Guineas each."
"Have you a Son a Freeman of Retford?"
"Yes."
"What is his Name?"
"Henry Holt."
"What is his Age?"
"Thirty-three."
"When did he take up his Freedom?"
"Before the Election."
"Before what Election?"
"Before those Elections."
"Did he, to your Knowledge, promise Mr. Evans and
Mr. Crompton on the first Election?"
"I believe he did."
"Did you hear from him that he did?"
"Yes; the same as I did, I believe."
"After that first Election of 1818, do you, from your
own Knowledge, know whether he received any
Money?"
"He did."
"How much?"
"The same as I did. He lived with me at my House.
It was brought to my House, and flung in at the Door,
the same as the other."
"Was that a Sum equal to what you received?"
"Just the same."
"After the Election in 1820, did he receive any other
Money?"
"Exactly the same as I did; it was both alike."
"For whom did you vote in the Year 1826, when Sir
Henry Wilson and Sir Robert Dundas and Mr. Wrightson were Candidates?"
"I voted for Sir Robert Dundas and Mr. Wrightson."
Cross-examined by Mr. Alderson.
"What is your Age?"
"Fifty-five."
"How long have you been admitted a Freeman?"
"Thirty-four Years."
"Were you admitted in 1796 or 1794?"
"1796, I think."
"What was the first Election you remember since you
were admitted?"
"I am sure I do not know exactly now."
"When was the first Election that you remember after
you were admitted a Freeman?"
"I do not know whether it was Marsh and Osbaldeston."
"It was in the Year 1812, was not it?"
"I am sure I cannot tell; it was Sir John Ingleby, I
think."
"Do you remember Sir John Ingleby's Election?"
"Yes."
"Do you remember the Election of 1796; did you
take up your Freedom for that Election; do you
remember Sir John Eamer being a Candidate?"
"Yes; I remember something of it."
"Do you remember Mr. Jeffery and General Crawford?"
"Yes; I remember it, now you mention it."
"Did you vote at that Election, or were you a Freeman at the Time of the Election?"
"Yes, I believe I was."
"Do you remember Sir John Ingleby's first Election?"
"I was Apprentice when Sir John Ingleby first came
to Retford."
"Sir John stood in 1806, we have heard?"
"I thought it was Sir William."
"Sir William stood in 1807?"
"I believe I was a Freeman at that Time; certainly I
must have been."
"Do you remember Sir John's Election?"
"Yes."
"And General Crawford and Mr. Jeffery?"
"Yes."
"There might have been an Election within the
Ten Years?"
"Yes; I cannot speak to that, I am sure."
"You recollect Eight Elections then, do you?"
"I am sure I cannot remember how many there
were."
"What Number of Packets have you received ever in
the Course of your Life?"
"I have received from those last Two Elections before
the last; none others."
"The Two Elections before the last, and no others?"
"Yes."
"At the Eight Elections you have received no more?"
"Yes."
"You have not received upon the last?"
"No, not upon the last."
"You spoke about Mr. Osbaldeston?"
"Yes; I can take upon myself to swear that I never
heard Mr. Osbaldeston's Name mentioned when I was
sent for to the Angel."
"Had you ever, in the Course of those Elections, any
Promise made to you?"
"No, never."
"Or any thing said to you at the Time you were canvassed?"
"Never."
"Or before you voted?"
"No, never."
"Or at the Time you voted?"
"Never."
"Had you any at the last Election?"
"Never."
"And you have received nothing?"
"Never."
"On whose Interest did General Crawford and
Mr. Jeffery stand?"
"The Duke of Newcastle's, I believe."
"Whose Interest did Sir John Ingleby stand upon?"
"His own, I believe."
"Was there an Opposition to The Duke of Newcastle's Interest at that Time?"
"I am sure I forget."
"Did you take any Interest in Sir John Ingleby's
Election?"
"No; I never took no Interest in none of them."
"Did you vote?"
"I voted for Sir John Ingleby."
"Whom did you vote for in Sir William Ingleby's
Election?"
"Sir William Ingleby."
"He was the Son of Sir John Ingleby?"
"Yes."
"Who was the opposing Candidate at the Time?"
"I am sure I do not know now; it is a long Time
back."
"Do you know whether General Crawford was the
opposing Candidate?"
"I think he was once; there was General Robert
Crawford."
"Did he come in?"
"I cannot tell."
"Do you know whether General Charles Crawford's
Election was set aside, and General Robert Crawford,
came in afterwards; do you remember that there was
a Dispute about General Charles Crawford's sitting,
and that General Robert Crawford came in afterwards."
"Yes, I think it was so; but I had nothing to do
with them."
"Your Son lives with you?"
"He did at that Time."
"When did he cease to live with you?"
"He has been away from me, I think, these Nine or
Ten Years."
"Was he with you in 1820?"
"I believe he was; but I cannot speak to that."
"You say somebody threw some Packets into your
House?"
"Yes; there came a Knock at the Door; the Door
was locked; and my Mistress opened the Door, and
somebody flung something in; and there was not a
Word on the Back, nor nothing but the Money wrapped
up in it."
"Was there any Direction upon them?"
"To John Holt; that was all."
"Only on those Three Occasions; and One of them
was when Mr. Hannam was there?"
"Yes."
"Who was Mr. Hannam?"
"He is an Attorney at Retford."
"Is he in much Business there?"
"I am sure I do not understand him; I do not think
he is."
"What do you mean by not understanding him?"
"I do not know much of him."
"Does he live there?"
"Yes."
"Do not you know a respectable Attorney at
Retford?"
"Yes, I know some of them."
"Is not he a respectable Attorney at Retford?"
"He is an Attorney at Retford."
"You do not adopt the Epithet, I observe?"
"I do not know any thing about him."
"Has Mr. Hannam taken any Part in getting up this
Business?"
"Yes, I believe he has."
"Which Side?"
"Against the Borough, I believe."
"Do you know that he has a Clerk of the Name of
Newton, or had a Clerk of that Name?"
"Yes."
"Did Mr. Newton take a Part about it?"
"Yes."
"Do you know the Birmingham Club?"
"I have heard them say there is such a thing; but I
do not know nothing about it."
"Do you know Mr. Carter and Mr. Fisher?"
"Yes; they are Neighbours of mine; I live between
them."
"Do you know whether they take an active Part in
this Business?"
"I have heard it said that they do."
"Have you heard them say that they do?"
"No."
"Did you ever see Mr. Sharp's Watch?"
"I have seen his Watch Chain; he may have a Watch,
or he may not."
"You do not know where he got it?"
"No, I do not."
"Were you present at the last Election?"
"Yes."
"Was it a quiet Election, or was there a good deal of
Tumult?"
"I dared not go in the Street; I have been threatened
with my Life many Times, and dared; to be sure they
threatened that they would take my Business from me,
if I would not vote their Way."
"You have been dared or tarred?"
"Yes; they threatened that they would take away
my Business."
"Who threatened that they would take away your
Business?"
"The People in the Opposition to the Party I was
concerned in."
"Which Party was that?"
"It was for Sir Robert Dundas and Mr. Wrightson; it
was Sir Henry Wright Wilson's Party."
"They threatened to take away your Business?"
"Yes."
"What is your Business?"
"A Shoemaker by Trade: they threatened to take
the Business from me, and did do, several of them."
"There was a great deal of rioting, and you were
afraid to go out?"
"Yes; I never saw any thing like it."
"Did you see the Bailiff knocked on the Head?"
"No; I took care not to go out."
"Did you ever hear the Expression "all is right"
used in Retford?"
"No, I never did; I have heard it here many Times
since I came here."
Re-examined by Mr. Price.
"My Learned Friend has asked you with respect to
the Election of General Crawford and Mr. Jeffery; do
you remember that Election?"
"I remember there was such an Election."
"Did you take any Part in it?"
"No."
"Were you at all interested in it?"
"Not the least; I voted at that Election."
"How came you to say that it was The Duke of
Newcastle's Party; what Authority have you for saying
that?"
"I understood it was."
"From public Rumour and Report?"
"Yes."
"Was that the whole?"
"Yes; the Duke never told me so."
The Witness was directed to withdraw.
Then George Worsley was called in; and having been
sworn, was examined as follows:
(Mr. Law.) "Is your Name George Worsley?"
"Yes."
"Are you a Burgess of Retford?"
"Yes."
"When did you become so?"
"About One-and-twenty Years ago."
"Do you recollect the Election of 1812, Mr. Osbaldeston's and Mr. Marsh's?"
"Yes."
"To whom did you promise your Vote upon that
Occasion?"
"To Mr. Osbaldeston."
"Did you go to the Angel Inn after that Election?"
"Yes, I did."
"Did you see Mr. Hannam there?"
"Yes."
"Did you see any other Person?"
"Yes; there was another Gentleman."
"Did you receive any Money there?"
"Yes."
"How much?"
"Eighteen Pounds."
"Had you received any before?"
"Three."
"From whom did you receive the Three before?"
"Mr. Carter?"
"Who was Mr. Carter?"
"He was at Mr. Hannam's."
"Was he a Clerk of Mr. Hannam's?"
"Yes."
"You received Eighteen Pounds in Mr. Hannam's
Presence at the Angel?"
"Yes."
"Who paid you; the Stranger or Mr. Hannam?"
"The Stranger."
"Do you remember the Election of 1818 Mr. Evans's
and Mr. Crompton's?"
"Yes."
"To whom did you promise your Vote?"
"Mr. Evans and Mr. Crompton."
"Did you receive any Packets after the Election?"
"Yes."
"What did they contain?"
"One-and-twenty Pounds."
"Did you receive One Packet or Two?"
"Two."
"Do you remember the Election of 1820?"
"Yes."
"To whom did you promise your Vote then?"
"Mr. Evans and Mr. Crompton."
"Did you receive any Packets after that Election?"
"Yes."
"What did they contain?"
"The same as the others."
"Look at that." (The Petition against the Bill being
shewn to the Witness.) "Is that your Name and Handwriting?"
"Yes, it is."
Cross-examined by Mr. Adam.
"What are you?"
"A Cordwainer."
"When were you made free?"
"About One-and-twenty Years since; I do not know
the Year."
"Was 1812 the first Election you were at after you
took up your Freedom?"
"Mr. Osbaldeston's."
"Do you remember the Election in 1807?"
"Not before Osbaldeston's."
"Do you remember it, though you were not a
Freeman?"
"Yes."
"Do you remember who were the Candidates in
1807?"
"Sir William Ingleby."
"Who besides Sir William Ingleby?"
"Mr. Marsh-no, it was not Mr. Marsh."
"Who was against Sir William Ingleby?"
"I cannot tell; I do not recollect; I was not a
Burgess then."
"Did you vote in 1826?"
"I am sure I do not know one Way or the other how
it was."
"Did you vote at Dundas and Wrightson's Election?"
"Yes."
"For whom did you vote?"
"For Sir Robert Dundas and Mr. Wrightson."
"Did they canvass you themselves, or any other
Person?"
"They canvassed me themselves."
"Did you promise them?"
"Yes."
"Before you promised, was any thing said about
Money, or any thing of the kind?"
"Nothing at all."
"Did you ever receive any thing since the Election of
1826?"
"No, not any thing,"
"When did you sign that Petition?"
"I cannot tell, indeed; it is not a vast long while
since."
"How long was it before you were sent for here?"
"I am sure I did not take particular Notice how long
before I was sent for here."
"When were you sent for here?"
"The First of May."
"Who asked you to sign the Petition?"
"John Richardson."
"Who is John Richardson?"
"He is a Burgess."
"What had he to do with you; how came he to ask
you to sign the Petition?"
"I do not know, I am sure; he came to our House and
asked me."
"Do you know whether he voted at the Election; and
if so, for whom?"
"I do not know that he voted at all."
Examined by the Lords.
"Do you pay for the Counsel that are employed upon
this Petition?"
"No, I paid nothing."
"Do you expect to pay?"
"No; they said nothing at all about any Pay."
The Witness was directed to withdraw.
Then Matthew Wass was called in; and having been
sworn, was examined as follows:
(Mr. Price.) "Are you a Freeman of Retford?"
"Yes."
"How long have you been a Freeman?"
"Better than Twenty Years."
"Do you remember the Election of 1818, when
Mr. Evans and Mr. Crompton were Candidates?"
"Yes."
"Did you promise your Vote to Mr. Crompton?"
"Yes."
"After that Election did you receive any Money or
Packets?"
"Well, I did."
"How many?"
"One, I think."
"One or Two?"
"Well, I cannot be sure which."
"What did the Packet contain?"
"It contained Twenty-one Pounds."
"Recollect yourself whether there was One or Two
Packets?"
"One."
"Will you swear there were not Two?"
"Well, I cannot be sure."
"Will you swear there were not Two?"
"No."
"Were there Two Packets?"
"Well, I am not sure whether I have received One or
Two in my Lifetime."
"I am speaking after the Election of 1818; confine
yourself to that?"
"Mr. Evans?"
"And Crompton; did you receive more than One
Packet after that Election?"
"No; I do not know that I did."
"Will you swear you did not?"
"No, I cannot swear in particular."
"But you swear that you received One?"
"Yes."
"In the Election of 1820, when Mr. Crompton and
Mr. Evans were Candidates the Second Time, did you
promise those Gentlemen?"
"Yes."
"What did you receive after that Election?"
"One."
"More than One?"
"No."
"Will you swear that?"
"I do not know that I did."
"Will you swear that you did not receive more than
One?"
"No, I cannot be sure of that."
"How was that One brought?"
"It was brought to my House."
"In what was it?"
"In a Paper."
"What did it contain?"
"Twenty-one Pounds."
"Whom did you vote for at the last Election?"
"Sir Robert Dundas and Mr. Wrightson."
Cross-examined by Mr. Alderson.
"How many Elections do you recollect in your Life?"
"I can recollect several; there have been a great
many Bye Elections."
"Who was the first Member of Parliament you voted
for?"
"Well, I cannot say exactly."
"How long is it since you were admitted a Freeman?"
"Better than Twenty Years."
"Do you remember Sir John Ingleby's Election?"
"Yes."
"Do you remember General Crawford's Election?"
"I cannot say."
"Mr. Jeffery's?"
"No, I cannot say."
"But you remember Sir John Ingleby's?"
"Yes."
"And Sir William Ingleby's?"
"I remember Sir John very well."
"Sir William was after Sir John?"
"I should not doubt it was so."
"Did you vote at Sir John's Election?"
"Yes."
"Did you receive any thing at all?"
"No, not a Halfpenny."
"Did you receive any thing after Mr. Osbaldeston's?"
"Nothing at all."
"Whom did you vote for?"
"I voted for Mr. Osbaldeston and Mr. Marsh; not a
Halfpenny. Mr. -I forget his Name.-Mr. Hannam
was concerned in it; it was a Bye Election."
"You received nothing?"
"Not a Halfpenny Piece."
"Not from Mr. Hannam?"
"No; he said there was something to come to the
Freemen; but I never received any thing."
"Then if there was any thing for you, Mr. Hannam
pocketed it, I suppose?"
"I cannot say any thing to it; but I never got a
Halfpenny; not a Halfpenny Piece."
"How many Packets altogether did you ever
receive?"
"Only One to the best of my Memory; to the best of
my Knowledge that was all."
"Do you know of People receiving any more than
Two Packets?"
"Really I do not."
"When were those Two received?"
"After Mr. Evans's Elections."
"When you state that you have not received more than
Two, you mean Two altogether; One at One Election
and One at another?"
"Yes."
"Did you receive any thing for the last Election?"
"Nothing at all; not a Halfpenny."
"During all the Time you have voted, did you ever
receive a Promise that you should have any thing for
voting?"
"Never in my Lifetime."
"Were you ever told it would be better for you if you
voted?"
"No; as I am here a living Sinner, no Gentleman never
promised me no such thing."
"Did he say that he might give you any thing if you
voted that Way?"
"No, nobody ever promised me any thing of the
kind."
The Witness was directed to withdraw.
Then John Richardson was called in; and having been
sworn, was examined as follows:
(Mr. Law.) "Is your Name John Richardson?"
"Yes."
"Are you called John Richardson junior?"
"Yes."
"Are you a Burgess of Retford?"
"Yes."
"When were you admitted?"
"About Fourteen Years ago."
"Was it in 1816?"
"It was about Fourteen Years ago."
"To whom did you promise your Vote at the Election
in 1818?"
"Mr. Evans and Mr. Crompton."
"Did you receive any Money after that Election?"
"No, not from them."
"Did you receive any Packets?"
"I received Two Packets; they were thrown into my
House."
"What did they contain?"
"They contained Twenty Guineas each."
"To whom did you promise your Votes in the Election
of 1820?"
"The same Men."
"Did you receive any Packets after that Election?"
"The same again."
"Twice Twenty-one?"
"Yes."
"Is that Name yours, John Richardson junior,"
signed to that Petition?" (The Petition against the Bill
being shewn to the Witness.)
"Yes, that is my Writing."
"Is your Father John Richardson senior?"
"Yes."
"Is he a Voter?"
"Yes."
"Do you know whether he received Packets after the
same Elections?"
"I do not."
"You do not know that from him?"
"No."
"Did you live in the same House with him?"
"No."
"Have you never heard him say so?"
"No."
(By a Lord.) "Do you know what is meant at Retford
by having large Pockets?"
"I never heard of such a thing."
"You are a Petitioner against the Bill?"
"Yes."
"Do you expect to pay for the Counsel?"
"No, of course not; I do not know at all who is to
pay."
"Your Father is a Burgess?"
"Yes."
The Witness was directed to withdraw.
Then William Cookson was called in; and having been
sworn, was examined as follows:
(Mr. Price.) "Are you a Freeman of Retford?"
"Yes."
"How long have you been a Freeman?"
"To the best of my Knowledge, about Seven-and-thirty
Years."
"Do you remember the Election of Mr. Osbaldeston
and Mr. Marsh, in the Year 1812?"
"I do."
"After that Election did you receive any Money?"
"There was some Money sent, but I did not know
from whom it came."
"I ask you, have you received any Money?"
"Yes."
"Where was it paid?"
"At the Angel Inn at East Retford."
"Was Mr. Hannam present?"
"I believe he was."
"Was any other Person present besides Mr. Hannam?"
"A Stranger to me."
"Who paid you the Money?"
"It was laid upon the Table, and I was ordered to take
it up."
"What was the Amount?"
"I believe Twenty Guineas."
"Whom had you promised at that Election?"
"I had promised Mr. Marsh and Mr. Osbaldeston for
that Election, but never had any Promise of any
Money."
"In the Year 1818, do you recollect the first Election
of Mr. Crompton and Mr. Evans?"
"Yes."
"Did you promise those Gentlemen?"
"I did."
"After that Election, did you receive any Money?"
"Some Packets was brought to my House, but I do
not know by whom."
"How many Packets?"
"I think Two."
"What did they contain?"
"Twenty Guineas each, I think."
"Do you recollect the Election of 1820, when
Mr. Crompton and Mr. Evans were Candidates the
Second Time?"
"I do not recollect the Year of our Lord; I recollect
the Names."
"Do you recollect the Second Election of Mr. Evans
and Mr. Crompton?"
"Certainly; they were Twice."
"Did you promise them?"
"I believe I did."
"Did you receive any thing after the Election?"
"Yes."
"What?"
"There were some Packets sent to my House after
that, which contained Twenty Guineas each."
"How many Packets?"
"There was One at each Time."
"Do you mean to say there were Two or One after
the Election of 1820?"
"I cannot recollect."
"After the Election of 1818, you tell me you received
Two Packets of Twenty Guineas each?"
"To the best of my Knowledge."
"After the Election of 1820, how many Packets did
you receive?"
"My Recollection is imperfect; I think One."
"Look at that Paper." (The Petition against the Bill
being shewn to the Witness.) "Is that Name in your
Handwriting?"
"I believe it is."
Cross-examined by Mr. Adam.
"How old are you?"
"Nearly Fifty-nine."
"How many Elections do you remember; do you
remember the Election of 1790?"
"I do not."
"Were you living in Retford in 1790?"
"I believe I was; but I cannot recollect that Election
in particular."
"That is Forty Years ago; you were Nineteen Years
old, were not you?"
"I believe I was about that Age."
"Do not you recollect the General Election of 1790?"
"I do not, certainly."
"You do not know who were the Candidates?"
"No, I do not."
"Do you recollect the Election of 1796?"
"I cannot recollect correctly."
"You were a Freeman by that Time?"
"If I was, my Recollection is very incorrect."
"Did you vote at the first Election that happened
after you became a Freeman?"
"I believe not."
"How did that happen; was there any Canvass?"
"I cannot recollect."
"Do you recollect Sir John Ingleby's Election?"
"I do not recollect the Name."
"Did you vote in 1802?"
"I cannot call my Recollection to him."
"Do you recollect General Crawford's and Mr. Jeffery's
Election?"
"I remember their Names."
"Did you vote for General Charles Crawford?"
"I believe so."
"Whose Interest did they stand on; did not they
stand on The Duke of Newcastle's Interest?"
"Indeed I do not know that perfectly."
"Do you know at all?"
"I do not."
"You voted for them?"
"I think not."
"Did you vote against them?"
"I do not know who stood against them."
"You voted at the Election?"
"I think I did."
"Recollect yourself; did you vote for General Crawford and Mr. Jeffery, or did you vote against them?"
"To the best of my Recollection, I voted One Vote
for General Charles Crawford."
"To whom did you give the other?"
"I cannot recollect."
"You recollect there was a Petition before the House
of Commons in 1802?"
"I cannot recollect that."
"Who asked you to vote for General Charles Crawford?"
"That has passed my Knowledge; I cannot recollect
it."
"Do you know whether General Charles Crawford was
married to The Duchess of Newcastle?"
"I believe he was."
"Have you any Doubt about it; did not Her Grace
come to the Election?"
"I do not know that she did."
"Brush up your Recollection; do not you recollect
The Duchess of Newcastle coming to the Election?"
"I do not."
"Nor before the Election?"
"Nor before the Election."
"Nor after the Election?"
"To my Knowledge, I never saw her."
"Who canvassed you to vote for General Charles
Crawford?"
"I cannot recollect."
"What was the Name of The Duke of Newcastle's
Steward at the Time?"
"I do not know nothing at all about it."
"Do you rent under the Duke?"
"No, I do not."
"You do not know what the Name of His Grace's
Steward was at that Time?"
"No."
"Did you know Mr. Mason, the Attorney at Retford?"
"Yes, I believe I did."
"Have you any Doubt that you knew him?"
"The Reason I give you that Answer was, there were
so many Masons, I cannot recollect."
"Were there so many Masons Attornies in Retford;
do you mean to say there were so many Masons
Attornies in Retford that you cannot tell the Man I
meant?"
"I cannot recollect whom you meant."
"Mr. Nathaniel Mason, the Town Clerk; was not he
The Duke of Newcastle's Agent at the Time you voted
for General Charles Crawford?"
"I never knew that he had any thing to do with any
thing of the kind."
"Was not he the Town Clerk of the Borough?"
"Yes, he was."
"Did not he canvass you for the Borough?"
"I do not know that he did."
"Can you say he did not?"
"No; I cannot say either way."
"Have you any Recollection whether you voted for
General Charles Crawford?"
"I have not in particular."
"Did you vote for the other Candidate?"
"I cannot say."
"Did you give the General a Plumper?"
"That I cannot say."
"Had The Duke of Newcastle an Interest in Retford at
that Time?"
"Indeed I cannot tell."
"Were there any Colours known by the Name of The
Duke of Newcastle's Colours?"
"I cannot tell indeed; not in particular."
"Do you recollect the Pink Colours in the Year 1802?"
"No."
"Was not there a very violent Contest in 1802, followed
by a Petition to the House of Commons?"
"I cannot recollect."
"I beg you will recollect; was not it a very violent
Contest in the Borough of Retford, followed by a
Petition to the House of Commons?"
"I am quite entirely lost in my Recollection concerning of it."
"Do you recollect whether there were any Pink Colours
in the Town known by the Name of The Duke of
Newcastle's Colours?"
"I cannot recollect in particular."
"Do you mean to say there was not an Interest in the
Town known by the Name of His Grace The Duke of
Newcastle's Colours?"
"I do not know for a Certainty."
"Was it a Rumour in the Town of Retford that there
was such a Thing as The Duke of Newcastle's Interest?"
"It might be rumoured as such."
"Did you ever happen to hear the Rumour just by
Accident?"
"Not in particular."
"You may have heard the Rumour?"
"I may have heard it."
"Is there the Newcastle Arms, an Inn in the Town?"
"I believe there is."
"Do you know whether His Grace employs a great
many Tradesmen?"
"I do not know that he does."
"What Line of Business are you in?"
"A Shoemaker."
"How far is Clumber from Retford?"
"I do not particularly recollect."
"Did you vote for Sir Robert Dundas and Mr. Wrightson, in 1826?"
"I believe I did."
"You are not quite certain?"
"I am certain; it is so late that Recollection has not
left me."
"In 1806, do you recollect Sir John Ingleby's
Election?"
"I am under a Mistake; I ax your Pardon; I thought
you meant the last Election of all."
"I did just ask you about the last Election; you
have no Recollection whom you voted for at the last
Election?"
"Yes; it was Sir Robert Dundas and Mr. Wrightson."
"In 1806, Sir John Ingleby stood, did not he?"
"I cannot recollect the Year, but I recollect his
standing for Retford."
"In 1802, when you voted for General Crawford, did
you receive any Money after the Election; that is a
very plain Question?"
"I believe there was something sent to my House,
but from whom it came I cannot say."
"Recollect whether, in 1802, any Money was sent to
your House at the Time that General Charles Crawford
and Mr. Jeffery stood. Will you swear there was not
Money sent to your House?"
"There was never any Money sent to my House for
any considerable Time after the Election took place."
"I am not asking whether it was shortly after or longer,
but after the Election of 1802; did you receive any
Money after General Crawford's Election?"
"I believe I did."
"When?"
"That I cannot recollect."
"Where?"
"That I cannot recollect."
"Will you swear that you did? Take Time, and recollect
yourself, and do not say the Thing off hand."
"I am not positive."
"Will you undertake to say you received any Money
after General Crawford's Election?"
"I cannot positively say."
"Do you believe you did?"
"Not to be certain."
"In 1806, that was Sir John Ingleby's Election, whom
did you vote for there?"
"I cannot remember."
"Who stood against Sir John Ingleby?"
"I cannot remember."
"Did you vote for any body?"
"I cannot recollect who stood at the Time."
"Do you remember for whom you voted in 1806?"
"I cannot recollect."
"Did you receive any Money after the Election in
1806?"
"I cannot say indeed; my Recollection is so incorrect."
"Do you recollect the Election in 1807?"
"I do not indeed."
"Do you remember Sir William Ingleby's Election?"
"Sir William Ingleby's? I remember -Sir William
Ingleby - something about it at Retford."
"Do you remember whether it took place?"
"I believe it did."
"Have you any Doubt whether it took place or not;
do you recollect whether it took place or not?"
"I believe it did."
"Have you any Doubt that it did; have you the least
Doubt it did?"
"No."
"Do not you remember going to the Poll, and voting
at that Election?"
"Sir William Ingleby's?"
"Yes, Sir William Ingleby's; do not you remember
going to the Poll, and giving your Vote?"
"My Recollection is incorrect; I believe I did."
"Did you receive any Money after Sir William Ingleby's
Election in 1807, before Osbaldeston's Election; after
Sir William Ingleby's Election?"
"I believe there was a Packet sent to my House which
contained Forty."
"Do you mean to say you have any Recollection
whatever of Money being sent to your House after
Sir William Ingleby's Election?"
"I do not know."
"Do not you know what was the first Money you ever
received; was it at the Angel Inn in 1814?"
"I cannot recollect whether that was the first Time
or not."
"How many Times altogether did you receive Money
after Elections?"
"I do not know; I do not know indeed."
(By a Lord.) "You are a Petitioner against this
Bill; did you sign that Petition?"
"Yes."
"Do you expect to pay for the Counsel who have just
cross-examined you?"
"I am an utter Stranger to any thing of the kind,
though I put my Name to it."
The Witness was directed to withdraw.
Then Thomas Baker was called in; and having been
sworn, was examined as follows:
(Mr. Law.) "Is your Name Thomas Baker?"
"Yes."
"Are you a Burgess of Retford?"
"Yes."
"Do you recollect the Election of 1818, Mr. Evans
and Mr. Crompton's Election?"
"Yes, I can recollect it."
"Did you receive any Packets or Money after that
Election?"
"I received a Letter."
"What did it contain?"
"Twenty Guineas."
"Did you receive One or Two Letters after the
Election?"
"Two."
"What did the other contain?"
"Twenty."
"Whom did you promise your Vote to in 1820, when
Mr. Evans and Mr. Crompton were again elected?"
"To Mr. Evans and Mr. Crompton."
"Did you receive any Money after that Election?"
"Yes."
"What?"
"Forty; the same."
"The same as before?"
"Yes."
"In Two Packets?"
"Yes."
"Will you look at that Name, Thomas Baker, subscribed
to that, (the Petition against the Bill being shewn to the
Witness,) and state whether that is your Name and
Handwriting?"
"Yes, it is."
The Witness was directed to withdraw.
Then William Brown was called in; and having been
sworn, was examined as follows:
(Mr. Price.) "Are you a Freeman of Retford?"
"Yes."
"How long have you been admitted a Freeman of
Retford?"
"I voted the first Time in 1818."
"Whom did you promise your Vote to upon that
Occasion?"
"I promised my Vote to Mr. Crompton and Mr. Evans."
"Did you receive any thing after that Election?"
"Am I bound to answer that Question?"
(By a Lord.) "Have you any Reason to state to the
House why you should not answer that Question?"
"No, I cannot say as I have."
The Witness was informed, he was bound to answer
the Question.
(Mr. Price.) "Did you receive any thing after that
Election?"
"Yes; I was down at Brighton; I had Fifteen Pounds
sent me."
"Was that all?"
"No."
"Who sent you down the Money?"
"I was at Brighton, and in great Distress, in danger
of losing my Arm, and Mr. Crompton recommended me
to a Doctor of his, and he recommended me to the
Salt Water; I wrote to Mr. Crompton, and told him of
my Distress, and he sent me Ten Pounds."
"You said you received Fifteen Pounds?"
"Yes; the other Five Pounds was from Mr. Evans."
"Did you receive any thing besides those Fifteen
Pounds upon that first Election?"
"Yes; I received Eleven Pounds more from Mr.
Crompton after I returned to London."
"Any thing more?"
"Not at that present Time."
"At any Time afterwards?"
"Yes, some Time afterwards I did."
"What did you receive afterwards?"
"Not on that Account; I received a Parcel that
came privately with Sixteen Pounds in it."
"Was all this before the Election of 1820?"
"It was a long Time after the Election."
"Was it before the Second Election of 1820 that you
received all those Sums; between the Election of 1818
and the Election of 1820?"
"I received the same Amount the Second Election
that I did the First."
"What did you receive in all after the First
Election?"
"I received Forty Guineas the first Election; and I
believe I received the same Amount after the second
Election."
"For whom did you vote at the last Election of 1826,
when Sir Henry Wilson and Sir Robert Dundas were
Candidates?"
"I voted for Sir Henry Wright Wilson at the last
Election."
Cross-examined by Mr. Alderson.
"You say you voted for Sir Henry Wright Wilson?"
"Yes; I promised my Vote, but I was not polled."
"Did you receive any thing for that?"
"No."
"How came you to promise your Vote to Sir Henry
Wright Wilson?"
"The Reason I promised him was because he was a
strong Advocate against the Catholic Question."
"You promised to vote for him on Principle?"
"Yes."
"On the former Occasion you were in great Distress
when Mr. Crompton sent you the Ten Pounds?"
"I was certainly in very great Distress."
(Mr. Price.) "Is that your Handwriting?" (The
Petition against the Bill being shewn to the Witness.)
"That is my Name."
"Is that your Handwriting; did you write that with
your Left Hand?"
"No; that is not my Writing."
"Did you authorize any body to write it?"
"I did; the Petition; oh yes, I authorized Mr. John
Taylor to sign my Name to a Petition."
(Mr. Alderson.) "What was the Petition about?"
"I am not certain."
"It might be in favor of the Catholics for aught you
know?"
"John Taylor told me it was something about having
Counsel at the Bar."
"To be heard against the present Bill?"
"I suppose it was."
"I was asking whether you were in great Distress at
the Time Mr. Crompton sent you the Money?"
"I was."
"How came you to be in such great Distress?"
"I was very short of Money when I went down to
Brighton; and not being able to work; I had my Arm
tied up in a Sling at the Time, and had no other
Means."
"Was that at the Time you lost your Arm?"
"It was before I lost my Arm. When I got down
there, I was in hopes of being able to work a little;
but I found I was not able to work."
"When was it that you received this Money from
Mr. Crompton?"
"I received Ten Pounds from Mr.Crompton."
"Had you any Promise before the Election, that when
you were in Distress Mr. Crompton would send you any
Money?"
"No, I had no Promise."
"Did you apply for it as Charity?"
"When I saw Mr. Crompton, he asked me the Particulars, and my Name. I told him I had had an Injury in
the King's Service; that I was very much afraid that
I should lose my Arm; and he recommended me to
his Doctor."
"How much was paid to his Doctor; that he paid for
you after the Election?"
"I never knew that, because the Doctor only advised
me to go down to the Salt Water; I took his Advice,
and I found myself in Distress when I was there."
"You suppose Mr. Crompton paid the Doctor for
you?"
"That might be, but I never enquired."
"Did you apply also for Money to Mr. Evans in like
Manner, when you got the Five Pounds?"
"I sent him Word."
"Did you send him Word that you were in Distress
for Money, and had a bad Arm?"
"Yes."
"And he sent you that Money?"
"Yes."
"You do not recollect any Election before that of
Mr. Crompton and Mr. Evans?"
"I never voted at any Election before that."
"Had you any Promise from Mr. Crompton or
Mr. Evans, that if you voted for them they would
give you Money?"
"No; never."
"Neither directly nor indirectly?"
"I am certain I never had any Promise made."
"When the Catholic Question came up, you promised
your Vote for Sir Robert Dundas and Mr. Wrightson?"
"No; I voted for Sir Henry Wright Wilson merely
on Principle."
(By a Lord.) "Did John Taylor tell you that you
would have to pay Counsel who were to be heard at
this Bar, when you signed the Petition?"
"No; he did not tell me that."
"Do you expect to have to pay for them?"
"No. I do not understand exactly the Question."
"Do you expect to have to pay for the Counsel
appearing at the Bar?"
"Why I do not know about that; I cannot say."
The Witness was directed to withdraw.
Then Stephen Lawrence was called in; and having been
sworn, was examined as follows:
(Mr. Law.) "Are you a Burgess of Retford?"
"Yes."
"In what Year did you become a Burgess?"
"In 1807."
"Do you recollect the Election in 1812?"
"Yes."
"To whom did you promise your Vote upon that
Occasion?"
"To Mr. Marsh and Mr. Osbaldeston."
"Do you recollect going to the Angel Inn at Retford
after that Election?"
"Yes."
"Did you see Mr. Hannam there, and a Stranger?"
"Yes."
"Did you receive any Money?"
"Yes."
"How much?"
"Eighteen Pounds."
"Had you received any Money before that?"
"Yes; Three Pounds."
"From whom?"
"From Mr. Carter."
"Was Mr. Carter the Clerk of Mr. Hannam?"
"Yes."
"Do you recollect the Election of 1818?"
"Yes."
"Whom did you promise upon that Election?"
"Mr. Evans and Mr. Crompton."
"Did you receive any Money after that Election?"
"Yes."
"What did you receive?"
"Two Parcels."
"What did they contain?"
"Twenty-four Guineas each."
"Who did you promise in the Election of 1820?"
"Mr. Evans and Mr. Crompton."
"Did you receive any Money after that Election?"
"Yes."
"What?"
"Two Parcels."
"What did they contain?"
"Twenty Guineas each."
The Petition against the Bill was shewn to the Witness.
"Is that your Name?"
"Yes."
"Do you know Westby Leadbeater?"
"Yes."
"Did you ever receive any Money from him?"
"I cannot say I did."
"Was he Town Crier?"
"Yes."
"And a Burgess?"
"Yes."
"Did he ever produce any Paper to you to sign?"
"No; I believe he never did."
"Did he ever deliver to you any of those Packets you
mention?"
"No; he never delivered none to me. He brought it
to our House, I dare say; but I was not in at the
Time."
Cross-examined by Mr. Stephenson.
"Was 1818 the first Election at which you voted?"
"It was not; I voted for Sir William Ingleby."
"Did you receive any Money after that Election?"
"Yes; about Six Months after."
"Was it in consequence of any previous Promise?"
"Not at all: I never had any kind of Promise in my
Life, not even a Shilling, or any thing of the sort."
"Are you a Resident of East Retford?"
"Yes."
"Do you know any thing of Westby Leadbeater?"
"I knew him all my Lifetime."
"He never brought you a Paper to sign?"
"No; I cannot say that ever he did in his Life."
"Did you vote at the last Election?"
"Yes."
"For whom?"
"Sir Robert Dundas and Mr. Wrightson."
"Did you receive any Money after that Election?"
"No."
"Who canvassed you?"
"Sir Robert Dundas and Mr. Wrightson."
(By a Lord.) "Who asked you to sign that Petition?"
"John Richardson brought it to me."
"Do you expect to pay for the Counsel who have been
heard at the Bar?"
"I expect nothing at all."
The Witness was directed to withdraw.
Then John Baker was called in; and having been sworn,
was examined as follows:
(Mr. Price.) "Are you a Freeman of Retford?"
"Yes."
"How many Years have you been a Freeman?"
"Nearly Fifty Years."
"Do you remember the Election of 1812, when
Mr. Osbaldeston and Mr. Marsh were Candidates?"
"I do not recollect any thing about it."
"Where were you resident in the Year 1812?"
"In Retford."
"Do you recollect the Election of 1818, when
Mr. Crompton and Mr. Evans were Candidates?"
"No, I do not recollect that; my Memory is getting
very bad."
"Do you recollect Mr. Crompton and Mr. Evans being
Candidates at all there?"
"Yes."
"How many Years ago?"
"I cannot say."
"About how many?"
"I do not know; it may be Ten, or it may be more."
"Did you ever promise those Gentlemen your Vote?"
"Yes."
"After the Election, did you ever receive any
Money?"
"Yes; I received a Packet."
"How much did that Packet contain?"
"I cannot exactly say."
"Tell us as near as you can?"
"Forty Guineas, I think."
"Was that contained in One or Two Packets?"
"It was contained in Two Packets."
"Do you recollect the second Time that Mr. Evans
and Mr. Crompton were Candidates?"
"Yes."
"Did you promise them your Vote again?"
"I think I did."
"Did you receive any thing after that Election?"
"There was some Man brought me somewhat; I was
called up in the Night, and give it."
"What was it that he gave you?"
"I do not know."
"How much?"
"There might be Twenty Guineas in it."
"Did you receive, upon that Occasion, or at any Time
afterwards, more than One Packet?"
"No."
"Do you mean to state then, that after the first
Election of Mr. Crompton and Mr. Evans you only
received One Packet?"
"I think not."
"Will you swear you did not receive Two?"
"Very likely I might."
"Have you any Doubt you received Two?"
"No, I have no Doubt about it."
"Do you recollect receiving One Packet or Two?"
"I have no Doubt but that I did receive Two."
"Did those Two Packets the last Time contain as
much as you received before?"
"Yes, I think they did."
The Petition against the Bill was shewn to the Witness.
"Is that your Handwriting?"
"Yes, that is my Handwriting."
Cross-examined by Mr. Alderson.
"How old are you?"
"In my Ninetieth Year."
"Are you the oldest Burgess of Retford?"
"No, I am not the oldest."
"Is there an older Burgess than one of Ninety?"
"No; I am in my Seventieth Year."
"How many Elections do you recollect?"
"I do not know; for when the Election is over I
never think any more about it."
"You have known Retford all your Life, perhaps?"
"Yes."
"Do you remember General Grawford's Election?"
"I cannot recollect."
"Do you recollect his being Member for the Borough?"
"There was one Crawford a Member."
"How long ago?"
"I do not know."
"Do you remember Mr. Jeffery being Member?"
"I cannot recollect any thing about it; I think I have
heard of that Name."
"Do you remember Sir John Eamer coming down?"
"Yes, I think there was a Name of that sort."
"Do you remember any Interest called the Newcastle
Interest there, in old Time?"
"No, I do not recollect any thing about it."
"Have you ever heard of such a thing as that all the
Time you have been at Retford?"
"No, not all the Time I have been there."
"You never heard any thing at all of the sort?"
"No."
"Have you ever had any Promise of Money at any
Election?"
"No, never in my Life."
"How many Times have you ever received any Money
in the whole Seventy Years?"
"I cannot tell you."
"Have you received it more than the Two or Three
Times you have mentioned to that Gentleman?"
"I think not."
"In all the Elections you have known for the last
Forty-eight or Forty-five Years, you have never received
Money but those Three Times?"
"I think not."
(By a Lord.) "Have you a Brother of the Name of
"Valentine Baker?"
"Yes."
"Is he alive?"
"Yes."
"Where does he live?"
"He is here at London."
"Did you ever hear from him whether he had received
any Packet after the Election in 1820?"
"I cannot say whether he said any thing to me about
that or not."
"Have you any Doubt that he said any thing to you
about it?"
"I do not know that he might have; but if he did I
forget about it. I did not keep it in my Head."
"Does he live in the same House with you?"
"No; we live asunder the one from the other."
"Have you got a Son who is a Burgess?"
"Yes."
"What is his Name?"
"His Name is Valentine Baker; and I have another
Son, and that is John Baker."
"Both Burgesses?"
"Yes."
"Did they ever admit to you that they received any
Packets after the Election?"
"No."
"After no Election?"
"I cannot say that they did."
"Do you expect to have to pay the Counsel who are
heard at this Bar against the Bill?"
"I do not know any thing about it."
The Witness was directed to withdraw.
Then Robert Whatmough was called in; and having
been sworn, was examined as follows:
(Mr. Law.) "Are you a Burgess of Retford?"
"Yes."
"When were you admitted?"
"About Twenty-three Years ago."
"Do you recollect the Election of 1812; Mr. Osbaldeston and Mr. Marsh's Election?"
"Yes."
"Who did you promise upon that Occasion?"
"Mr. Osbaldeston."
"Did you receive any Money after that Election?"
"Yes."
"Where?"
"At the Angel Inn."
"Of whom did you receive it?"
"I do not know."
"How much was it?"
"Twenty Guineas."
"Did you see Mr. Hannam there at the Time?"
"Yes."
"Do you recollect the Election of 1818?"
"Yes."
"Whom did you promise upon that Occasion?"
"Mr. Crompton and Mr. Evans."
"Did you receive any Money after that Election?"
"I received Two Packets."
"What did they contain?"
"Twenty Guineas each."
"Do you recollect the Election of 1820?"
"Yes."
"Whom did you promise then?"
"Mr. Crompton and Mr. Evans."
"Did you receive any Packets after that Election?"
"Two of Twenty Guineas each."
"Were you at Home when they were delivered?"
"No."
"Who delivered the Packets?"
"I do not know."
"Do you know Westby Leadbeater?"
"Yes."
"Did he deliver to you any Packets?"
"No."
"Are you sure of that?"
"Yes."
The Petition against the Bill was shewn to the Witness.
"Do you believe that to be your own Signature?"
"Yes."
"Who did you vote for at the last Election?"
"Sir Robert Dundas and Mr. Wrightson."
Cross-examined by Mr. Stephenson.
"Was 1812 the first Election at which you voted?"
"No."
"What was the first Election?"
"Sir John Ingleby's."
"When was that?"
"About Twenty-three Years ago."
"Who canvassed you for that Election?"
"Sir John Ingleby."
"Did he promise you any Money?"
"No."
"Did he give you any Money after that Election?"
"No."
"1812, then, was the first Election after which you
received any Money?"
"Yes."
"Did you receive any Money after the Election of
1826?"
"None."
"Who canvassed you?"
"Sir Robert Dundas and Mr. Wrightson."
"Did they talk to you about any Money?"
"No."
"Do you know any thing about "all right?"
"I heard it at Mr. Hornby's."
"When was that?"
"It was Two Years ago that first I heard Mr. Hornby
talk about "all right."
"In what Way did he talk about it?"
"He said he had mentioned it to several of the
Burgesses."
"In what Way?"
"When they came up upon this Petition."
"Do you mean to say he talked about it for the
Purpose of their mentioning it when they came to give
Evidence?"
"Yes."
"That was the first Time you ever heard it?"
"Yes."
"Did you attach any Meaning to it?"
"No."
"Have you heard the Word "Joss?"
"No."
"Or the Word "Tip?"
"No."
"Have you heard any thing of a Club in the Town of
East Retford?"
"I have heard of it."
"Do you know the Turk's Head?"
"Yes; I live near it."
"Do you know whether the Club frequents that?"
"I do not."
"Was 1807 the first Election at which you voted?"
"Yes."
"Who canvassed you for Mr. Osbaldeston's Election?"
"Mr. Osbaldeston, and Mr. John Kirke deceased."
"Did they make you any Promise of any Money?"
"No."
"Who paid you the Money in 1814?"
"I do not know; it was a Stranger."
"Do you know any thing of Mr. Hornby?"
"Yes, I know him."
"Is he a respectable Man?"
"No, not very."
"Do you know Mr. Hannam?"
"Yes."
"Is he a respectable Attorney of East Retford?"
"Yes."
"More so than Mr. Hornby?"
"Yes."
"Were you a Tenant of Mr. Hornby's?"
"No."
"What brought you to his House?"
"I was there under an Execution."
"Were you present at the last Election at East
Retford?"
"Yes."
"Was it much disturbed?"
"Yes."
"Did they call in the Military?"
"Yes."
"You have received no Money since that?"
"No, not a Farthing."
"I think you say you received no Money after Sir
John Ingleby's Election?"
"No."
(By a Lord.) "You say the Town was disturbed at
the first Election; who disturbed it?"
"The Town's people in general."
"Had they any particular Cries when they were going
about the Town?"
"I cannot recollect any particular Words."
"Did they cry "No Popery?"
"Yes; they made a deal of Use of those Words."
"And it was the People that cried "No Popery" that
made the Riot?"
"Yes."
"And the Military were called in to quell those
Riots?"
"Yes."
"Did any body ever come to you about giving
Evidence against the Bill?"
"No."
"How came you to come up here?"
"I was subponaed up here."
"You had no Conversation with any body upon the
Subject?"
"Never; with no One."
"Not since you came up here?"
"No, never."
"You say you live near the Turk's Head; did you
ever see any Freemen going into that House?"
"I have seen them going backwards and forwards."
"Is there a Club held there?"
"There is a Sick Society held there."
"Does the Blue Club hold its Sittings there?"
"I have heard of it, but I never knew it as a Fact."
"Did you ever see any of the Burgesses going into
the Inn?"
"No, I cannot say that I did."
"Do you know Mr. Newton?"
"Yes."
"Who is he?"
"Mr. Hannam's Clerk."
"Had you ever any Conversation with him about the
Disfranchisement of the Borough?"
"No."
"You said that Colonel Kirke canvassed you?"
"Along with Mr. Osbaldeston."
"Who canvassed you in the Election of 1826?"
"Colonel Kirke and Sir Robert Dundas."
"Was Mr. Foljambe with him?"
"Yes."
"And Mr. Fox?"
"No."
"You said you were in Mr. Hornby's House on an
Execution; are you a Sheriff's Officer?"
"Yes."
"Then you were in the Execution of your Duty as a
Sheriff's Officer?"
"Yes."
The Witness was directed to withdraw.
Then John Sinegar was called in; and having been sworn,
was examined as follows:
(Mr. Price.) "Are you a Freeman?"
"Yes."
"How long have you been a Freeman?"
"About Thirty Years."
"Do you remember the Election of 1818, when
Mr. Crompton and Mr. Evans were Candidates?"
"Yes."
"Did you promise those Gentlemen?"
"Yes."
"After the Election of 1818, did you receive any
Money?"
"No."
"Did you receive any Packet?"
"No."
"Was any Packet left at your House?"
"No."
"Do you mean to state to their Lordships that you
received no Money, nor any thing, after the first Election
of 1818?"
"No; I never received no Money at that Election."
"Did you receive it after the Election?"
"Yes; I received One Packet after the Election."
"What did that Packet contain?"
"Twenty Pounds."
"Was it Pounds or Guineas?"
"Pounds."
"Who gave it to you?"
"I do not know; but somebody left it at my House."
"Where did you live at that Time?"
"At Westham, near Rotheram."
"Do you mean to say, that you only received One
Packet after the Election of 1818?"
"One Packet."
"Nothing else?"
"Nothing else."
"Do you recollect the second Election of 1820, when
Mr. Crompton and Mr. Evans were Candidates the
second Time?"
"Yes."
"Did you promise your Vote to them?"
"Yes."
"After the Election of 1820, what did you receive?"
"Nothing."
"Did you receive any Packet?"
"No."
"Did you know a Person of the Name of Mr. Shore?"
"No."
"Did you never receive any Money in any way after
the Election of 1820?"
"No."
"Was no Packet left at your House?"
"No."
"Did you know a Gentleman of the Name of Thornton
at Retford?"
"Yes; Mr. John Thornton."
"Have you ever received any Money from him?"
"No."
"Do you mean to swear, that after the Election of
1820 you never received any Money at all?"
"I received none."
"Nor any Benefit whatever?"
"No."
"Then if I understand you rightly, you only received
One Packet after the Election in 1818?"
"One Packet."
"Whom did you vote for at the last Election?"
"I voted for Sir Robert Dundas and Mr. Wrightson."
"Do you know a Person of the Name of Robert
Hudson, who lives at Sheffield?"
"Yes."
"Is he a Freeman of Retford?"
"Yes."
"What Line of Life is he in?"
"He is a Druggist."
"Had you ever any Conversation with him respecting
Election Money?"
"No, never a Word."
"With respect to any Money received after Elections?"
"No."
"Have you had any Conversation with any Freeman
of Retford respecting Election Money?"
"No, none; and who left me that Packet, I do not
know, for they flung it into the House."
"I ask you again if you had any Conversation with any
Freeman of Retford respecting the Receipt of Election
Money?"
"No."
"Or of any Packet?"
"No."
"Did you ever talk to any Freeman about the Circumstance of your receiving this Packet in 1818?"
"I never talked to any Freeman, for I live Twenty
Miles from Retford."
"Did you ever talk to any Freeman respecting the
Receipt of the Packet of Money you received in
1818?"
"No."
"Do you know a Person of the Name of John Fenney,
a Freeman of Retford?"
"Yes."
"Where does he live?"
"I do not know; I have not seen him these Two
Years."
"Did he live at Sheffield?"
"Yes."
"Had you ever any Conversation with him respecting
the Receipt of Election Money?"
"No, I never had."
"Do you know a Person of the Name of Thomas
Brown of Sheffield?"
"Yes."
"Is he a Freeman of Retford?"
"Yes."
"Have you had any Conversation with him about
Elections?"
"No."
Cross-examined by Mr. Stephenson.
"You have been Thirty Years a Burgess?"
"Yes."
"How many Elections have you voted at?"
"I have voted at Four, I think."
"Can you recollect them?"
"No, I cannot recollect them all."
"Did you vote in 1812?"
"I am no Scholar; I do not know how long that is
since."
"At Mr. Osbaldeston's and Mr. Marsh's Election?"
"Yes."
"Did you receive any Money after that?"
"No."
"Did you vote in 1807, at Sir John Ingleby's Election?"
"Yes."
"Did you receive any Money after that?"
"No."
"Did you vote in 1826, at Sir Robert Dundas and
Mr. Wrightson's Election?"
"Yes."
"Did you receive any Money after that?"
"No."
"My Learned Friend has asked you a great deal about
Conversation with different Burgesses of the Borough
about Election Money; you answered you had had no
Conversation with them about Election Money?"
"No, I never had."
"You are not a Resident of East Retford?"
"No."
"In 1818 a Packet was put into your House containing Twenty Pounds; how it came there you do not
know?"
"No."
"Nor by whom it was sent?"
"No."
"Nor for what Reason?"
"No, nor what for."
The Witness was directed to withdraw.
Then Thomas Butler was called in; and having been
sworn, was examined as follows:
(Mr. Law.) "Are you a Burgess of Retford?"
"Yes."
"When were you admitted?"
"I was a Burgess above Fifty Years ago."
"Do you recollect the Election of 1812?"
"No; I cannot remember any such thing."
"Do you recollect Mr. Osbaldeston and Mr. Marsh?"
"Yes, I do."
"Did you promise those Gentlemen your Vote?"
"Yes."
"After the Election were you at the Angel Inn?"
"Yes, I was."
"Did you see Mr. Hannam there?"
"Yes."
"And a strange Gentleman?"
"Yes, I did."
"Did you receive any Money?"
"From the strange Gentleman I did."
"How much?"
"I have almost forgotten, it is so long since."
"How much more or less was it than Twenty
Guineas?"
"I cannot say particularly."
"Was it more or less than Twenty Guineas?"
"I think it was somewhere about that."
"Do you recollect the Election of Mr. Evans and
Mr. Crompton in 1818?"
"No; when the Election is over, I think no more
about it."
"Do you remember their being Members for the
Borough?"
"Yes."
"Before they were elected did you promise them your
Vote?"
"I have forgotten; it is a long while since, and my
Memory gets bad. I am Seventy-five Years of Age,
and I think no more about the Election when it is
over."
"Do you recollect receiving any Packets after that
Election?"
"I remember something of a Letter in my House at
Night-time, but who it came from I do not know."
"But you remember a Letter coming at Night?"
"Yes, I do."
"Do you recollect what was in it?"
"I have forgotten."
"How much more or less than Twenty Guineas
was it?"
"I cannot say particularly; perhaps my Wife got it,
and kept it unknown to me; but a Letter I did receive."
"Upon your Oath, did you not receive a Packet containing Money?"
"I did."
"How much Money did it contain?"
"It was Forty Guineas."
"After the Election of 1820, did you receive One
Packet or Two?"
"I cannot remember from one Election to another."
"How many Packets did you receive?"
"Two, I think."
"What did they amount to?"
"Just the same as the other."
"Forty Guineas?"
"I believe it was."
"Have you a Son a Burgess?"
"Yes."
"Did you ever hear what he received?"
"No."
"Did you ever receive any Packet for your Son, the
Burgess?"
"I do not know."
"Brush up your Recollection?"
"I dare say I did once."
"Have you any Doubt of it?"
"I do not know."
"Have you any Doubt that you did?"
"I believe I did."
"What did it contain?"
"Forty Guineas."
"Did you hand it over to your Son?"
"I cannot say that; perhaps I might keep it myself."
"Do you mean to state that as your Answer upon
your Oath?"
"Those are my Words; and I believe I did keep it
myself."
"Did you maintain your Son?"
"I did."
"He lived with you?"
"Yes; he has Fits."
"Did you take care of the Forty Guineas for him?"
"Yes, I did."
"Did you sign the Petition against this Bill?"
"I cannot write."
"Did you employ any body else to write for you?"
"Yes; and you will find my Name or my Mark."
"Who did you desire to write for you?"
"I forget; I do not know who it was."
Cross-examined by Mr. Stephenson.
"How old is your Son?"
"About Forty, to the best of my Knowledge."
"Is your Son a Burgess?"
"Yes."
"I think you stated you had been Fifty Years a
Burgess of Retford?"
"Better."
"How many Elections have you voted at?"
"I cannot tell you that."
"Do you recollect the Election of 1806?"
"No."
"Do you recollect who stood then?"
"No."
"Do you recollect General Crawford?"
"I recollect General Crawford, and Charles Crawford,
both."
"Did you receive any Money after that Election?"
"I never asked for any thing, and they never promised
me any."
(By a Lord.) "Did you get any Money after that
Election?"
"When I promised a Gentleman, I never asked for
any Money, and he never promised me none."
(Mr. Stephenson.) "Do you recollect Sir William
Ingleby's Election?"
"Yes."
"Did you vote for him?"
"Yes."
"Did he give you any Money?"
"No; I never asked him for Money, and he never
promised me none."
"Did you vote at the last Election in 1826?"
"There was no voting at the last Election."
"When Sir Robert Dundas and Mr. Wrightson stood
did you vote?"
"Yes."
"Whom did you vote for?"
"For Sir Robert Dundas and Mr. Wrightson."
"Have you got any Money for it?"
"No."
"Who canvassed you?"
"The Two Gentlemen themselves."
"Have you received any Money since the last
Election?"
"No."
"Are you a Resident of Retford?"
"Yes."
"Were you present at the last Election in the Town?"
"Yes."
"Was it quiet?"
"No."
"What was the Matter?"
"Breaking the Windows; and a deal of Mischief they
did."
"Who did it?"
"I cannot tell who did it; it was done by some bad
People."
"Do you know Mr. Hornby?"
"Yes."
"What do you know of him?"
"I think he is a very busy kind of Gentleman."
"He has busied himself about East Retford, has not
he?"
"Yes; he used to run out to give the Men a Belly-full
of Drink."
"Has he ever talked to you about the Borough?"
"He has a deal of Talk; he interferes with Things
he has no Business with."
"Had he any Conversation with you about disfranchising the Borough?"
"No, never with me."
"Do-you know Mr. Hannam?"
"Yes."
"Is he an Attorney?"
"Yes."
"Is he a respectable kind of a Man?"
"I do not think he is too much; he is a busy kind of
a Man."
"He is another busy Man that has meddled about the
Borough?"
"I think he is."
"There are a good many of those Persons in East
Retford?"
"Yes."
"Do you know Mr. Sharp?"
"Yes; I know him."
"What do you know of him?"
"He is another busy kind of Man."
"Mr. Fisher?"
"Yes."
"Is he another busy kind of Man?"
"I cannot say that he is; I have heard that he is; but
he is a good Tradesman, and a good sort of a Man."
"Fisher is the best of the Set?"
"Yes."
"Do you know of these Persons ever meeting
together?"
"I have heard say that they do meet together."
"Where?"
"At the Turk's Head; but then I never saw it
myself."
"Did you ever see Mr. Sharp's Watch?"
"No, I never heard talk of it before I came here; I
have heard talk of some Gold Watch, but I know
nothing about that."
Re-examined by Mr. Law.
"You have stated to my Learned Friend, that you
never asked General Crawford for any Money, and he
never promised you?"
"He never did."
"Did you get some Money after his Election?"
"He never promised me nothing, and I never asked
him."
"Did you get some Money after his Election?"
"There was a Man, as I told you before, a Stranger,
that I knew nothing about, that came at Night-time
and threw a Letter into the House; and I should think
it after General Crawford's Election, or Charles Crawford's Election."
"Was that Twenty Guineas?"
"Yes."
"You did not ask, nor did Sir William Ingleby promise
you; but did you get some Money after his Election?"
"I forget."
"Did you receive some Money after Sir William
Ingleby's Election?"
"I think there was a Letter left at the House."
"Was there Twenty or Forty Guineas inside of it?"
"I forget."
"Recollect yourself?"
"I never think of it when the Election is over."
"Did it contain Twenty or Forty Guineas?"
"I cannot recollect whether it was Twenty or Forty
now."
"Was it either the one or the other?"
"It was one of the two."
"What is your Son's Christian Name?"
"John."
The Witness was directed to withdraw.
The Counsel were directed to withdraw.
William Cartwright not having attended pursuant to
the Order of the House of Monday the 26th of April
last;
Witnesses examined as to the State of Health of W. Cartwright:
John Butt was called in; and having been sworn, was
examined as follows:
"Did you serve the Order of the House upon William
Cartwright to attend here as a Witness?"
"I was sent down for my Father to serve these Orders,
and I did serve Mrs.Cartwright upon the 28th of April,
who then stated that Mr. Cartwright was labouring
under a Paralytic Attack. I afterwards saw Mr. Cartwright, who produced a Copy of the Order of his
Medical Attendant, Mr.Gylby, who stated that it
would be highly improper for him to leave Home."
"Did he appear to you to be ill?"
"He did; he seemed to have a Paralytic Affection in
his Face, and the whole of one Side; and I also understood that he could not assist himself in dressing. I
have the Certificate."
"Do you know the Name of the Medical Attendant
of Mr.Cartwright?"
"Mr.Gylby is Mr.Cartwright's Medical Attendant."
"Is he a Surgeon?"
"He is; and I understand he is a Gentleman of great
Credit there with regard to his Skill."
"Have you, from your own Observation, reason to
believe that any Deceit was practised?"
"I should think certainly not. I should mention to
your Lordships that Mr.Cartwright came down with
Mr.Gylby to the Inn where I was staying, and he
seemed very much affected in his Side, and I think
there was an Affection in his Face."
"Could he walk?"
"I think he could; I have heard that he was seen
the Day after in the Market Place."
"How far was your Inn from his Residence?"
"I should think not above Twenty-five Yards."
"The Witness was directed to withdraw."
"Then Samuel Francis Flower was called in; and having
been sworn, was examined as follows:
"What are you by Profession?"
"A Surgeon."
"Are you acquainted with William Cartwright of East
Retford?"
"Yes."
"When did you see him last?"
"I have seen him almost every Day of late."
"When did you see him last; how many Days ago?"
"About Two Days ago."
"In what State was he at that Time, in respect to his
Health?"
"I had not any Conversation with him at that Time;
I saw him in the Street."
"Could you judge from his Appearance whether it
was likely to be attended with any Danger, his coming
here to London?"
"I should think there would be no Danger in his
coming here."
"Was he walking in the Street?"
"Yes."
"Did he appear to be Paralytic?"
"I could not perceive any Paralysis about him."
"What aged Man is he?"
"He is apparently rather better than Forty."
"You perceived no Sympton of Paralysis in the Manner
of his walking?"
"Not any."
"Did you perceive any Affection in his Countenance
that led you to believe he was labouring under
Paralysis?"
"I did not perceive any."
"Do you know Mr. Gylby?"
"I do."
"What is he?"
"A Surgeon."
"Does he attend Mr.Cartwright?"
"Not to my Knowledge; he does not attend Mr. Cartwright now."
"Is he a Surgeon in good Practice in Retford?"
"Yes."
"Is Mr.Cartwright attended by any Medical Man
there?"
"Not to my Knowledge."
"Since Mr.Cartwright has been served with a Summons to attend this House, have you not been called
in for the Purpose of certifying as to his Health?"
"I have."
"What was your Opinion when you did see him?"
"My Opinion was, that he was able to come to
London."
"Without any Risk?"
"Without any Risk."
"When you examined him in the Manner you describe,
and with that view, did you perceive that he had had
any Attack of Paralysis?"
"Mr.Gylby attended Mr.Cartwright about Six Months
ago; he told me at that Time that he had some
Affection of his Head; since that Time I think he has
not attended him."
"At the Time when you examined him for the Purpose of ascertaining whether he could safely come to
London, did you discover any thing that led you to
suppose he would run any Risk in coming here?"
"No Risk that I could discover."
"The Witness was directed to withdraw."
Witnesses to attend:
Ordered, That Worthington Thomas Gylby Surgeon and
Benjamin Robertson M.D. do attend this House forthwith,
in order to their being examined as to the State of
Health of the said William Cartwright.
2d Reading postponed:
Ordered, That the further Consideration and Second
Reading of the said Bill be put off to Monday next; and
that the Lords be summoned.
Witnesses discharged from further Attendance.
Ordered, That Thomas Slaney, Broxholme Slaney, John
Hoult, George Worsley, John Richardson, Thomas Baker,
Benjamin Scott, William Cookson, William Brown, Matthew
Wass, Stephen Lawrence, John Baker, Robert Whatmough,
Thomas Butler and John Sinegar be discharged from
further Attendance on this House upon the Second
Reading of the last-mentioned Bill.
E. of Mexborough's Claim, Com ee to meet.
Ordered, That the Committee for Privileges to whom
the Petition of John Earl of Mexborough, praying, "That
his Right to vote at the Election of Peers of Ireland
to sit in the Parliament of the United Kingdom may
be admitted by their Lordships," stands referred, do
meet to consider of the said Claim on Wednesday next.
Adjourn.
Dominus Cancellarius declaravit præsens Parliamentum
continuandum esse usque ad et in diem Lunæ, decimum
septimum diem instantis Maii, hormâ decimâ Auroræ,
Dominis sic decernentibus.