Die Lunæ, 24 Maii 1830.
DOMINI tam Spirituales quam Temporales præsentes
fuerunt:
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Ds. Lyndhurst,
Cancellarius. |
Archiep. Ebor.
Epus. Londinen.
Epus. Winton.
Epus. Bath. et Well.
Epus. Lich. et Cov.
Epus. Glocestr.
Epus. Bristol.
Epus. Carliol.
Epus. Roffen.
Epus. Cestrien.
Epus. Rapoten.
Ds. De Clifford.
Ds. Dacre.
Ds. Petre.
Ds. Arundell of Wardour.
Ds. Clifton.
Ds. Teynham.
Ds. Clifford of Chudleigh.
Ds. Gower.
Ds. Colville of Culross.
Ds. Boyle.
Ds. Hay.
Ds. King.
Ds. Monson.
Ds. Boston.
Ds. Holland.
Ds. Foley.
Ds. Dynevor.
Ds. Montagu.
Ds. Braybrooke.
Ds. Auckland.
Ds. Calthorpe.
Ds. De Dunstanville & Bassett.
Ds. Rolle.
Ds. Bayning.
Ds. Northwick.
Ds. Fitz Gibbon.
Ds. Carbery.
Ds. Dufferin & Claneboye.
Ds. Dunalley.
Ds. Alvanley.
Ds. Redesdale.
Ds. Rivers.
Ds. Ellenborough.
Ds. Arden.
Ds. Sheffield.
Ds. Barham.
Ds. Mont Eagle.
Ds. Hopetoun.
Ds. Hill.
Ds. Melbourne.
Ds. Prudhoe.
Ds. Ker.
Ds. Ormonde.
Ds. Glenlyon.
Ds. Maryborough.
Ds. Ravensworth.
Ds. Bexley.
Ds. Penshurst.
Ds. Somerhill.
Ds. Wharncliffe.
Ds. Feversham.
Ds. Durham.
Ds. Skelmersdale.
Ds. Wallace. |
Comes Bathurst, Præses.
Dux Richmond.
Dux Grafton.
Dux Beaufort.
Dux Leeds.
Dux Portland.
Dux Newcastle.
Dux Wellington.
March. Lansdowne.
March. Salisbury.
March. Hertford.
March. Bute.
March. Camden.
March. Cleveland.
Comes Huntingdon.
Comes Denbigh.
Comes Westmorland.
Comes Winchilsea & Nottingham.
Comes Essex.
Comes Carlisle.
Comes Shaftesbury.
Comes Albemarle.
Comes Jersey.
Comes Rosebery.
Comes Ferrers.
Comes Tankerville.
Comes Cowper.
Comes Fitzwilliam.
Comes Hardwicke.
Comes Ilchester.
Comes De Lawarr.
Comes Radnor.
Comes Spencer.
Comes Norwich.
Comes Mansfield.
Comes Carnarvon.
Comes Malmesbury.
Comes Wicklow.
Comes Caledon.
Comes Romney.
Comes Chichester.
Comes Limerick.
Comes Charleville.
Comes Manvers.
Comes Grey.
Comes Harewood.
Comes Verulam.
Comes Brownlow.
Comes Morley.
Comes Howe.
Comes Stradbroke.
Comes Vane.
Comes Cawdor.
Vicecom. Arbuthnott.
Vicecom. Maynard.
Vicecom. Duncan.
Vicecom. St. Vincent.
Vicecom. Melville.
Vicecom. Lorton.
Vicecom. Gordon.
Vicecom. Granville. |
PRAYERS.
Burns & Grier v. Stewart.
The Answer of Duncan Stewart Esquire, Writer in
Edinburgh, to the Petition and Appeal of John Burns
and Robert Grier, was this Day brought in.
Marriage Law, Petition of Freethinkers of Dewsbury for Alteration of.
Upon reading the Petition of the Elder and Deacon of
the Church of God meeting in Dewsbury, and known as
Freethinking Christians, whose Names are thereunto
subscribed; praying their Lordships "to make such
Alteration in the Law respecting the Solemnization of
Marriage as will remove the Hardships under which
the Petitioners labour:"
It is Ordered, That the said Petition do lie on the
Table.
Assizes for West Riding of Yorkshire, Petition from Heckmondwike for Removal of, to Wakefield.
Upon reading the Petition of the Inhabitants of Heckmondwike, in the Parish of Birstal, in the West Riding of
the County of York, whose Names are thereunto subscribed; praying their Lordships, "That the Assizes for
the West Riding may be removed from York to
Wakefield:"
"It is Ordered, That the said Petition do lie on the
Table.
Ellesmere & Chester Canal Bill:
Hodie 3a
vice lecta est Billa, intituled, "An Act to
enable the United Company of Proprietors of the
Ellesmere and Chester Canal to make a Reservoir, and
to establish Vessels for the Conveyance of Goods from
Ellesmere Port across the River Mersey; and also to
amend and enlarge the Powers of the Act relating to
the said Canal."
The Question was put, "Whether this Bill shall
pass?"
It was resolved in the Affirmative.
Peebles Roads Bill:
Hodie 3a
vice lecta est Billa, intituled, "An Act for
more effectually repairing and keeping in Repair the
Turnpike Roads in the County of Peebles, for making
and maintaining certain new Roads, and for rendering
Turnpike certain Parish Roads, in the said County."
The Question was put, "Whether this Bill shall
pass?"
It was resolved in the Affirmative.
Queensferry Road Bill:
Hodie 3a
vice lecta est Billa, intituled "An Act for
more effectually repairing and keeping in Repair the
Road from Cramond Bridge to the Town of Queensferry,
the Road leading Westward therefrom, through Dalmeny,
to Echline, and the Road from the West End of the
said Town of Queensferry to the Town of Linlithgow,
in the County of Linlithgow."
The Question was put, "Whether this Bill shall
pass?"
It was resolved in the Affirmative.
Messages to H.C. that the Lords have agreed to the 3 preceding Bills.
And Messages were, severally, sent to the House of
Commons, by Mr. Stephen and Mr. Wingfield;
To acquaint them, That the Lords have agreed to the
said Bills, without any Amendment.
Monks Risborough Inclosure Bill:
Hodie 3a
vice lecta est Billa, intituled, "An Act for
inclosing Lands in the Parish of Monks Risborough, in
the County of Buckingham."
The Question was put, "Whether this Bill, with the
Amendment, shall pass?"
It was resolved in the Affirmative.
Message to H.C. with an Amendment to it.
A Message was sent to the House of Commons, by
the former Messengers;
To return the said Bill, and acquaint them, That the
Lords have agreed to the same, with One Amendment, to
which their Lordships desire their Concurrence.
Hildyard's Estate Bill:
Hodie 3a
vice lecta est Billa, intituled, "An Act for
vesting the Estates in the County of Lincoln devised
by the Will of Mary Hutton deceased, in Trustees,
upon Trust to sell the same, and for laying out the
Monies arising from such Sales in the Purchase of
more convenient Estates, to be settled to the same
Uses."
The Question was put, "Whether this Bill shall
pass?"
It was resolved in the Affirmative.
Poore's Estate Bill:
Hodie 3a
vice lecta est Billa, intituled, "An Act for
exchanging a Fee-Simple Estate belonging to Edward
Dyke Poore Esquire, situate at Ablington; in the County
of Wilts, for an Estate under Settlement, devised by
the Will of the late Edward Poore Esquire, situate at
North Tidworth, in the same County; and for authorizing the Investment of a Sum of Money in the
Purchase of other Lands, to be settled to the like
Uses."
The Question was put, "Whether this Bill shall
pass?"
It was resolved in the Affirmative.
Messages to H.C. with the 2 preceding Bills.
And Messages were, severally, sent to the House of
Commons, by the former Messengers;
To carry down the said Bills, and desire their Concurrence thereto.
East India Co. Account respecting, Ordered.
Ordered, That there be laid before this House, "A
Statement of the Account between the Territorial and
Commercial Branches of the Affairs of The East India
Company, in each Year, from the 1st May 1814 to the
latest Period, drawn upon the Principle observed in
the Accounts transmitted to the Government of Bengal
as Enclosures to the Letters of the Court of Directors
in the Territorial Finance Department."
Polloc & Govan Railway Bill.
Hodie 2a
vice lecta est Billa, intituled, "An Act for
making and maintaining a Railway from the Lands of
Polloc and Govan to the River Clyde, at the Harbour
of Broomielaw, in the County of Lanark, with a Branch
to communicate therefrom."
"Ordered, That the said Bill be committed to the
Consideration of the Lords following:
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D. CUMBERLAND. |
L. Bp. London.
L. Bp. Winchester.
L. Bp. Bath & Wells.
L. Bp. Lichfield & Coventry.
L. Bp. Gloucester.
L. Bp. Bristol.
L. Bp. Carlisle.
L. Bp. Rochester.
L. Bp. Chester.
L. Bp. Raphoe.
L. De Clifford.
L. Dacre.
L. Petre.
L. Arundell of Wardour.
L. Clifton.
L. Teynham.
L. Clifford of Chudleigh.
L. Gower.
L. Colville of Culross.
L. Boyle.
L. Hay.
L. King.
L. Monson.
L. Boston.
L. Holland.
L. Foley.
L. Dynevor.
L. Montagu.
L. Braybrooke.
L. Auckland.
L. Calthorpe.
L. De Dunstanville & Bassett.
L. Rolle.
L. Bayning.
L. Northwick.
L. Fitz Gibbon.
L. Carbery.
L. Dufferin & Claneboye.
L. Dunalley.
L. Alvanley.
L. Redesdale.
L. Rivers.
L. Ellenborough.
L. Arden.
L. Sheffield.
L. Barham.
L. Mont Eagle.
L. Hopetoun.
L. Hill.
L. Melbourne.
L. Prudhoe.
L. Ker.
L. Ormonde.
L. Glenlyon.
L. Maryborough.
L. Ravensworth.
L. Bexley.
L. Penshurst.
L. Somerhill.
L. Wharncliffe.
L. Feversham.
L. Durham.
L. Skelmersdale.
L. Wallace. |
L. Abp. Canterbury.
L. Abp. York.
L. President.
D. Richmond.
D. Grafton.
D. Beaufort.
D. Leeds.
D. Portland.
D. Newcastle.
D. Wellington.
M. Lansdowne.
M. Salisbury.
M. Hertford.
M. Bute.
M. Camden.
M. Cleveland.
E. Huntingdon.
E. Denbigh.
E. Westmorland.
E. Winchilsea & Nottingham.
E. Essex.
E. Carlisle.
E. Shaftesbury.
E. Albemarle.
E. Jersey.
E. Rosebery.
E. Ferrers.
E. Tankerville.
E. Cowper.
E. Fitzwilliam.
E. Hardwicke.
E. Ilchester.
E. De Lawarr.
E. Radnor.
E. Spencer.
E. Norwich.
E. Mansfield.
E. Carnarvon.
E. Malmesbury.
E. Wicklow.
E. Caledon.
E. Romney.
E. Chichester.
E. Limerick.
E. Charleville.
E. Manvers.
E. Grey.
E. Harewood.
E. Verulam.
E. Brownlow.
E. Morley.
E. Howe.
E. Stradbroke.
E. Vane.
E. Cawdor.
V. Arbuthnott.
V. Maynard.
V. Duncan.
V. St. Vincent.
V. Melville.
V. Lorton.
V. Gordon.
V. Granville. |
Their Lordships, or any Five of them, to meet Tomorrow, at Ten o'Clock in the Forenoon, in the
Prince's Lodgings, near the House of Peers; and
to adjourn as they please.
Bruce v. Bruce.
The Lord Chancellor acquainted the House, "That
the Clerk Assistant had received the Copy of the Disposition and Deed of Entail referred to in the Cause
wherein James Carstairs Bruce Esquire is Appellant,
and Thomas Bruce Esquire is Respondent, Ordered
to be laid before the House on the 14th Day of this
instant May."
Ordered, That the said Paper do lie on the Table.
Taxes, Ireland, Petition of Corporation of Smiths, Dublin, against encreasing.
Upon reading the Petition of The Master, Wardens,
and Brethren of the Corporation of Smiths, or Guild of
St. Loy, Dublin, in Post Hall assembled, under their
Common Seal; praying their Lordships "not to impose
additional Taxes in Ireland, which must have the
certain Effect of overflowing the Cup of Bitterness
which the Hand of Poverty has so long held to the
Lip of their afflicted Country:"
"It is Ordered, That the said Petition do lie on the
Table.
Limerick Road Bill:
The Order of the Day being read for the Third
Reading of the Bill, intituled, "An Act for improving
and repairing the Road leading from Newcastle, in the
County of Limerick, to the City of Limerick, and from
thence to Charleville, in the County of Cork;"
It was moved, "That the said Bill be now read the
Third Time."
Which being objected to;
The Question was put thereupon?
It was resolved in the Affirmative.
Then the said Bill was read the Third Time.
The Question was put, "Whether this Bill shall
pass?"
It was resolved in the Affirmative.
Message to H.C. that the Lords have agreed to it.
A Message was sent to the House of Commons, by
the former Messengers;
To acquaint them, That the Lords have agreed to the
said Bill, without any Amendment.
Eyre's Petition claiming the Earldom of Newburgh.
The Earl of Shaftesbury (by His Majesty's Command)
presented to the House A Petition of Thomas Eyre to
His Majesty, praying His Majesty, "That it may be
declared and adjudged that the Petitioner is entitled
to the Honors and Dignities of Earl of Newburgh, Viscount Kinnaird, and Baron Livingstone, of Flacraig;"
together with His Majesty's Reference thereof to this
House.
Which Petition and Reference were read by the Clerk,
and are as follow; (viz
t.)
"To The King's Most Excellent Majesty.
"The humble Petition of Thomas Eyre, claiming
to be Earl of Newburgh;
"Sheweth,
"That by Letters Patent bearing Date the 31st Day
of December 1660, in the Twelfth Year of the Reign
of King Charles the Second, James Livingstone Viscount Newburgh, in Scotland, was created Earl of
Newburgh, Viscount Kinnaird and Baron Livingstone,
of Flacraig, in the Kingdom of Scotland, to hold the
said Dignities to him and his Heirs whatsoever: That
the said James Livingstone possessed and enjoyed the
said Dignities by virtue of the said Letters Patent
until the Year 1670, when he died, and was succeeded
in the said Dignities by Charles his Son and Heir, who
as such possessed and enjoyed the said Dignities until
his Death, which happened in 1694: That the said
Charles Earl of Newburgh left a Daughter, Charlotte
Maria, his only Child and Heir, him surviving, who
thereupon succeeded to the said Dignities: That the
said Charlotte Maria, in or about the Year 1713, was
married to The Honorable Thomas Clifford, eldest Son
and Heir Apparent of Hugh Lord Clifford, by whom
she had Two Daughters, Frances and Anne, and no
other Issue: That the said Frances Clifford died, unmarried and without Issue, in the Year 1771; and the
said Anne Clifford was married, first to Giacomo Count
Mahoni, an Alien, and secondly to Don Carlo St. Severino, also an Alien: That the said Anne Clifford by
her first Husband had One Daughter, who was born
out of the King's Allegiance, and no other Issue; and
the said Daughter of the said Anne Clifford was married
to Prince Giustiniani, an Alien: That all the Descendants of the said Anne Clifford are Aliens: That the
said Anne Clifford had no Issue by her said Second
Husband.
"That the said Charlotte Maria Countess of Newburgh,
after the Death of the said Thomas Clifford, which
happened in or about the Year 1719, was married to
The Honorable Charles Radclyffe, by whom she had
Issue James Bartholomew, who assumed and bore the
Title of Earl of Newburgh, and James Clement Radclyffe,
Charles Radclyffe, Thomasine Radclyffe, Barbara Radclyffe, Charlotte Radclyffe and Mary Radclyffe; which
said James Bartholomew, James Clement, Charles, Thomasine, Barbara, Charlotte and Mary were the only
Issue of the said Charlotte Maria Countess of Newburgh by the said Charles Radclyffe: That the said
Charles Radclyffe the Son, and Thomasine Radclyffe,
died respectively without Issue before the Year 1751:
That the said James Clement Radclyffe died without
Issue in the Year 1788: That the said Barbara Radclyffe died, unmarried and without Issue, in the Year
1768: That the said Charlotte Radclyffe died, unmarried and without Issue, in the Year 1800: That the
said Charles Radclyffe, Husband of the said Charlotte
Maria Countess of Newburgh, was attainted of High
Treason in the Year 1716, and sentenced to be executed,
and was executed, under the Sentence of Attainder, in
the Year 1746, leaving him surviving the said Charlotte
Maria Countess of Newburgh, who died in the Year
1755: That the said James Bartholomew, called Earl
of Newburgh, died in the Year 1786, leaving a Son,
Anthony James called Earl of Newburgh, and Anne
Radclyffe, his only Issue: That the said Anthony James
was born within The King's Allegiance in the Year
1762, and died without Issue in the Year 1816: That
the said Anne Radclyffe died, unmarried and without
Issue, in the Year 1785.
"That the said Mary Radclyffe, in the Year 1755,
married Francis Eyre of Warkworth, in the County of
Northampton, Esquire, by whom she had Issue Francis,
who, as her eldest Son and Heir at Law, upon the
Death of the said Anthony James called Earl of Newburgh, assumed and bore the Title of the said Earldom,
and died in the Year 1827, leaving Your Petitioner his
eldest Son and Heir.
"That until the passing of the Act of the Tenth
Year of Your Majesty's Reign, for the Relief of Your
Majesty's Roman Catholic Subjects, Your Petitioner
and his Ancestors have been disqualified and deprived
of the Power of exercising the Rights and Privileges
of the said Titles of Honor which have descended
to them respectively: That since the passing of the
said Act Your Petitioner has been occupied in collecting the Evidence necessary to support his Claim of
Right to the said Honors.
"Your Petitioner therefore most humbly prays
Your Most Excellent Majesty, that it may be
declared and adjudged that Your Petitioner
is entitled to the said Honors and Dignities
of Earl of Newburgh, Viscount Kinnaird and
Baron Livingstone, of Flacraig.
"And Your Petitioner shall, &c.
"For the Petitioner,
Fras. Townsend,
College of Arms,
Agent."
"Whitehall, 21st May 1830.
"His Majesty being moved upon this Petition, is
graciously pleased to refer the same to The Right
Honorable The House of Peers, to examine the Allegations thereof, as to what relates to the Petitioner's
Title therein mentioned, and inform His Majesty how
the same shall appear to their Lordships.
Robert Peel."
Ordered, That the said Petition, with His Majesty's
Reference thereof to this House, be referred to the
Consideration of the Lords Committees for Privileges;
whose Lordships having considered thereof, and heard
such Persons concerning the same as they shall think
fit, are to report their Opinion thereupon to the
House.
Humbert's Naturalization Bill, Certificate read:
A Certificate of The Right Honorable Robert Peel,
One of His Majesty's Principal Secretaries of State,
"That Francis Joseph Humbert, Son of George Hans
Humbert by Magdalina Zeigler his Wife, born at
Manheim, in Germany, had produced to him satisfactory Proof that he is a Person well affected to His
Majesty's Royal Person and Government, and of orderly
Life and Conduct," was produced and read, pursuant
to the Standing Order.
Humbert takes the Oaths:
Francis Joseph Humbert took the Oaths appointed, in
order to his Naturalization.
Bill read 2 a & committed.
Hodie 2a
vice lecta est Billa, intituled, "An Act for
naturalizing Francis Joseph Humbert."
Ordered, That the said Bill be committed to the
Consideration of the Lords Committees aforenamed:
Their Lordships, or any Five of them, to meet
To-morrow, at the usual Time and Place; and to
adjourn as they please.
The King's Message respecting His Sign Manual:
The Duke of Wellington acquainted the House, "That
he had a Message from His Majesty, under His Royal
Sign Manual, which His Majesty had commanded him
to deliver to their Lordships."
And the same was read by The Lord Chancellor, and
is as follows; (viz
t.)
"GEORGE R.
"His Majesty thinks it necessary to inform The
House of Lords, that His Majesty is labouring under
severe Indisposition, which renders it inconvenient
and painful to His Majesty to sign with His own
Hand those Public Instruments which require the Sign
Manual.
"His Majesty relies upon the dutiful Attachment
of Parliament, to consider without Delay of the Means
by which His Majesty may be enabled to provide
for the temporary Discharge of this important Function
of the Crown, without Detriment to the Public
Service.
"G. R."
And the said Message being again read by the
Clerk;
Address thereupon.
Ordered, Nemine Dissentiente, That an humble Address
be presented to His Majesty, to assure His Majesty that
this House deeply laments that His Majesty is labouring
under severe Indisposition.
To assure His Majesty that this House earnestly and
anxiously hopes that, by the Favour of Divine Providence, His Majesty's Health may be re-established at
an early Period; and that this House will proceed to
consider without Delay of the Means by which His
Majesty may be relieved from the Pain and Inconvenience of signing with His own Hand those Public
Instruments which require the Royal Sign Manual, and
may be enabled to provide for the temporary Discharge
of this important Function of the Crown, without Detriment to the Public Interests.
Ordered, That the said Address be presented to His
Majesty by the Lords with White Staves.
Lords summoned.
Ordered, That all the Lords be summoned to attend
the Service of the House To-morrow.
Dundee Harbour Bill.
A Message was brought from the House of Commons,
by Mr. Hume and others;
With a Bill, intituled, "An Act for more effectually
maintaining, improving and extending the Harbour of
Dundee, in the County of Forfar;" to which they
desire the Concurrence of this House.
Glasgow & Garnkirk Railway Bill.
A Message was brought from the House of Commons,
by Mr. Hume and others;
With a Bill, intituled, "An Act for amending certain
Acts for making the Glasgow and Garnkirk Railway;
and for raising a farther Sum of Money;" to which
they desire the Concurrence of this House.
Highgate Grammar School Bill.
A Message was brought from the House of Commons,
by Mr. Hume and others;
With a Bill, intituled, "An Act to enable The Wardens
and Governors of the Possessions, Revenues and Goods
of the Free Grammar School of Sir Roger Cholmeley Knight, in Highgate, to pull down their present
Chapel, and to contribute towards the Erection of a
new Chapel or Church in Highgate; and for other
Purposes;" to which they desire the Concurrence of
this House.
The said Three Bills were, severally, read the First
Time.
Carlisle Road Bill:
Hodie 3a
vice lecta est Billa, intituled, "An Act for
more effectually repairing the Road from Carlisle to
Penrith, and from Penrith to Eamont Bridge, in the
County of Cumberland."
The Question was put, "Whether this Bill shall
pass?"
It was resolved in the Affirmative.
Message to H.C. that the Lords have agreed to it.
A Message was sent to the House of Commons, by
the former Messengers;
To acquaint them, That the Lords have agreed to the
said Bill, without any Amendment.
Australian Co's Bill.
Hodie 2a
vice lecta est Billa, intituled, "An Act to
amend an Act for granting certain Powers and Authorities to a Company to be incorporated by Charter, to
be called "The Australian Agricultural Company,"
for the Cultivation and Improvement of Waste Lands
in the Colony of New South Wales; and for other Purposes relating thereto."
Ordered, That the said Bill be committed to a Committee of the Whole House.
Ordered, That the House be put into a Committee
upon the said Bill To-morrow.
New Cross Roads Bill, read 2 a & committed:
Hodie 2a
vice lecta est Billa, intituled, "An Act to
improve the Road through the Town of Bromley, in
the County of Kent."
Ordered, That the said Bill be committed to the
Consideration of the Lords Committees aforenamed:
Their Lordships, or any Five of them, to meet on
Wednesday next, at the usual Time and Place;
and to adjourn as they please.
Petition against it, referred to the Com ee:
Upon reading the Petition of Richard Stockwin, Surveyor of the Highways of the Parish of Bromley, in the
County of Kent; taking notice of the last-mentioned
Bill, and praying their Lordships, "That he may be
heard against a certain Part of the said Bill, either by
himself or his Agent or Counsel:"
It is Ordered, That the said Petition be referred to
the Committee to whom the said Bill stands committed,
and that the Petitioner be at liberty to be heard against
the same by himself, or his Agent or Counsel, as desired;
and that Counsel be heard for the Bill at the same Time,
if they think fit.
All Lords added to the Com ee:
Ordered, That all the Lords who have been or shall be
present this Session, and are not named of the Committee
to whom the last-mentioned Bill stands committed, be
added thereto.
Com ee to appoint a Chairman.
Ordered, That the Committee to whom the said Bill
stands committed do appoint their own Chairman.
Beer Trade, Petition from Stratton respecting.
Upon reading the Petition of the Inhabitants of the
Hundred of Stratton, in the County of Cornwall, whose
Names are thereunto subscribed; praying their Lordships
"for the Removal of the Malt Tax, or even of a Portion
of it equal in Amount to the present Beer Duty, which
would be more beneficial to the Operative Classes in
general than the Measure for the Repeal of the Duty
on Beer:"
It is Ordered, That the said Petition do lie on the
Table.
Hop Duty, Petition from Seddlescomb for Repeal of.
Upon reading the Petition of the Occupiers of Land,
and others connected therewith, in the Parish of Seddlescomb, in the County of Sussex, whose Names are thereunto subscribed; praying their Lordships "to repeal the
Duty on Hops:"
It is Ordered, That the said Petition do lie on the
Table.
Hollingrake's Patent Bill, Standing Order No. 173 dispensed with, & Bill passed:
The Order of the Day being read for taking into Consideration the Standing Order No. 173, respecting Bills
for the Extension of the Term of Letters Patent, in order
to its being dispensed with on the Bill, intituled, "An
Act for prolonging the Term of certain Letters Patent
granted to James Hollingrake, for an improved Method
of manufacturing Copper or other Metal Rollers, and
of casting and forming Metallic Substances into various
Forms with improved Closeness and Soundness of
Texture;" and for the Lords to be summoned;
The said Standing Order was read by the Clerk.
Ordered, That the said Standing Order be dispensed
with on the said Bill.
Then the said Bill was read the Third Time.
The Question was put, "Whether this Bill, with
the Amendments, shall pass?"
It was resolved in the Affirmative.
Message to H.C. with Amendments to it.
A Message was sent to the House of Commons, by
the former Messengers;
To return the said Bill, and acquaint them, That the
Lords have agreed to the same, with some Amendments,
to which their Lordships desire their Concurrence.
Marquess of Hastings's Estate Bill Specially reported:
The Earl of Shaftesbury reported from the Lords Committees appointed to consider of the Bill, intituled, "An
Act for vesting the Settled Estates of The Most Honorable George Augustus Francis Rawdon Hastings Marquis
of Hastings, situate in Scotland, in the said Marquis in
Fee;" "That the Committee had met, and considered
the said Bill, and had enquired how far the Standing
Orders of the House relative to Private Bills had
been complied with, and found that none of the said
Standing Orders had been complied with on this Bill;
but after a full Investigation into the Matter of the
Bill, it has appeared to this Committee, that, under
the special Circumstances of this Case, the said Orders
should be dispensed with upon the said Bill; and the
Committee had examined the Allegations of the Bill,
and had found the same to be true; and that The
Marquis of Hastings had consented to the Bill; and
that the Committee had gone through the Bill, and
directed him to report the same to their Lordships,
with some Amendments."
Which Report, being read by the Clerk, was agreed
to by the House.
Then the Amendments made by the Committee to the
said Bill, being read Twice by the Clerk, were agreed to
by the House.
Ordered, That the said Bill, with the Amendments, be
ingrossed.
Standing Orders relative to Private Bills to be considered on it.
Ordered, That the Standing Orders relative to Private
Bills be taken into Consideration To-morrow, in order to
their being dispensed with on the last-mentioned Bill; and
that the Lords be summoned.
Warriner's Estate Bill.
The Earl of Shaftesbury reported from the Lords
Committees, to whom the Bill, intituled, "An Act for
vesting Estates, of which Gifford Warriner Esquire, a
Lunatic, is Tenant in Tail, in Trustees, for Sale, and
also for effecting a Partition of certain Parts thereof,
and for granting Leases," was committed; "That they
had considered the said Bill, and examined the Allegations thereof, which were found to be true; that
the Parties concerned had given their Consents to the
Satisfaction of the Committee; and that the Committee
had gone through the Bill, and made several Amendments thereto."
Which Amendments, being read Twice by the Clerk,
were agreed to by the House.
Ordered, That the said Bill, with the Amendments,
be ingrossed.
Criminal Laws, Petition from Glastonbury for Alteration of.
Upon reading the Petition of the Bankers and other
Inhabitants of the Town of Glastonbury and its Vicinity,
whose Names are thereunto subscribed; praying their
Lordships, "That, both for the better Protection of
Property and the invariable Prosecution and adequate
Punishment of that heinous Offence Forgery, the
Penalty of Death may be commuted in such Manner as
may appear to their Lordships best adapted to effect
those important Ends:"
It is Ordered, That the said Petition do lie on the
Table.
Home-grown Tobacco, Petition from Waterford against proposed Duty on.
Upon reading the Petition of the Cultivators of
Tobacco in the City and Neighbourhood of Waterford,
whose Names are thereunto subscribed; praying, "That
their Lordships will not, by imposing a Duty on Homegrown Tobacco, legislate upon a Point of such National
Importance, not only to the Neighbourhood of that
City but to the Country at large, amounting to a
Prohibition of the Growth of Tobacco, without summoning and examining Individuals whose Experience
in the Growth may enable them to give satisfactory
Information, so as to shew the Advantages derivable
from its Cultivation at Home, as well as that a
Duty to the Extent proposed would act as a Prohibition:"
It is Ordered, That the said Petition do lie on the
Table.
Disabilities of the Jews, Petition from Great Yarmouth for Removal of.
Upon reading the Petition of the Inhabitants of the
Borough of Great Yarmouth, whose Names are thereunto
subscribed; praying, "That their Lordships will take
into their immediate Consideration the Petitions that
have been presented on behalf of that once favoured
but now oppressed People, the Jews, and repeal all
the Penal Laws at present in force against them:"
It is Ordered, That the said Petition do lie on the
Table.
Slavery, Petition from Southampton for Abolition of.
Upon reading the Petition of the several Persons whose
Names are thereunto subscribed, Inhabitants of the
Town and County of Southampton, and of the immediate
Neighbourhood; praying their Lordships "to take into
Consideration the Condition of Slavery, and to carry
into Effect the Wishes and Declarations of the Petitioners as therein mentioned, or otherwise to ameliorate
Slavery by such Means as their Lordships shall deem
expedient:"
It is Ordered, That the said Petition do lie on the
Table.
Stamp Duty, (Ireland,) Petitions from Kilkenny against Encrease of.
Upon reading the Petition of the Members of The
Benevolent Society of Kilkenny, in Ireland, whose Names
are thereunto subscribed; praying their Lordships, "That
the Assimilation of Stamp Duty between England and
Ireland, as contemplated, may not pass this House,
inasmuch as it must materially diminish the Means
for relieving the sick and destitute Poor of Kilkenny:"
It is Ordered, That the said Petition do lie on the
Table.
Kingsbury Episcopi Inclosure Bill.
The Earl of Shaftesbury reported from the Lords
Committees, to whom the Bill, intituled, "An Act for
inclosing Lands in the Parish of Kingsbury Episcopi,
in the County of Somerset," was committed; "That
they had considered the said Bill, and examined the
Allegations thereof, which were found to be true;
that the Parties concerned had given their Consents
to the Satisfaction of the Committee; and that the
Committee had gone through the Bill, and directed
him to report the same to the House, without any
Amendment."
Dundalk Roads Bill.
The Earl of Shaftesbury reported from the Lords
Committees, to whom the Bill, intituled, "An Act for
repairing and maintaining the Roads from the Town
of Dundalk, in the County of Louth, to the Towns of
Castle Blayney and Carrickmacross, in the County of
Monaghan," was committed; "That they had considered the said Bill, and examined the Allegations
thereof, which were found to be true; and that the
Committee had gone through the Bill, and directed
him to report the same to the House, without any
Amendment."
Ld. Cremorne's Estate Bill, Report of Judges in Ireland read, & referred to the Com ee on the Bill.
The Report of the Judges in Ireland, to whom was
referred a printed Copy of the Bill, intituled, "An Act to
enable the Guardian of The Right Honorable Richard
Lord Cremorne, an Infant, to carry into Effect a Contract entered into for the Purchase of Rockcorry Castle
and adjoining Lands, in the County of Monaghan, in
Ireland," to take the Consent of Thomas Ellis Esquire,
as Guardian of the said Richard Lord Cremorne, was
read.
Ordered, That the said Report be referred to the
Committee to whom the said Bill stands committed.
Greece, Papers respecting, delivered.
The Viscount Gordon (by His Majesty's Command)
laid before the House,
"Papers relative to the Affairs of Greece, in Three
Classes.
"Class A.
"Protocols of Conferences held in London.
"Class B.
"Protocols of Conferences held at Constantinople.
"Class C.
"1. Convention of Alexandria.
"2. Blockade of the Dardanelles.
"3. Raising of Greek Blockades."
Together with Lists thereof.
Which Lists were read by the Clerk as follow;
(viz
t.)
"Class A.
Protocols of Conferences held at London between the Plenipotentiaries of Great Britain, France and Russia.
No.1.-Protocol of Conference of July 12, 1827.
Annexes.
A.-Instruction to the Ambassadors of the Three Powers
at Constantinople.
B.-Form of first Declaration to be addressed to The
Ottoman Porte.
C.-Form of second Declaration to be addressed to The
Ottoman Porte.
D.-First Instruction to the Admirals of the Three Powers
in the Levant.
E.-Form of Declaration to be addressed to the Provisional
Government of Greece.
F.-Second Instruction to the Admirals of the Three
Powers in the Levant.
No. 2. Protocol of Conference of September 10, 1827.
Annex.
A.-Note of the Russian Plenipotentiary.
No. 3. Protocol of Conference of September 17, 1827.
No. 4. Protocol of Conference of October 15, 1827.
No. 5. Secret Protocol of Conference of October 15, 1827.
Annexes.
A.-Instructions to the Admirals of the Three Powers in
the Levant.
B.-Ditto - Ditto.
C.-Secret Ditto.
No. 6. Protocol of Conference of December 12, 1827.
Annexes.
A.-Copy of a Dispatch from Count Guilleminot to The
Baron de Damas; Constantinople, November 11, 1827.
B.-Joint Note of the Ambassadors of the Three Powers
to The Reis Effendi; Constantinople, November 10,
1827.
C.-Copy of a Dispatch from Mr. Stratford Canning to
Sir Henry Wellesley; Constantinople, November 11,
1827.
No. 7. Protocol of Conference of March 12, 1828.
Annexes.
A.-Copy of a Dispatch from Count Nesselrode to The
Prince of Lieven; St. Petersburgh, December 25,1827/January 6,1828.
(Inclosures in Annex A.)
1. Extract of a Dispatch from M. de Ribeaupierre to
Count Nesselrode; Buyukdéré, December 4/15; 1827.
2. Translation of a Letter from The Grand Vizir to Count
Nesselrode; November 30/December 12, 1827.
B.-Copy of a Note from The Earl of Dudley to The Prince
of Lieven; Foreign Office, March 6, 1828.
C.-Instructions to the Admirals of the Three Powers in
the Levant.
D.-Copy of a Dispatch from Count Nesselrode to The
Prince of Lieven; St. Petersburgh, February 14/16;, 1828.
(Inclosures in Annex D.)
1. Extract of a Report from General Paskewitch;
December 24, 1827.
2. Turkish Hatti-Chérif; December 20th, 1827.
No. 8. Protocol of Conference of June 15, 1828.
Annexes.
A.-Copy of a Note from The Earl of Dudley to The
Prince of Lieven; Foreign Office, March 25, 1828.
B.-Copy of a Note from The Earl of Dudley to The
Prince de Polignac; Foreign Office, April 5, 1828.
C.-Copy of a Dispatch from The Count de la Ferronays
to The Prince de Polignac; Paris, April 20, 1828.
D.-Copy of a Dispatch from Count Nesselrode to The
Prince of Lieven; St. Petersburgh, April 17/29;, 1828.
(Inclosures in Annex D.)
1. Copy of a Circular Dispatch from Count Nesselrode
to the Ministers of Russia at Foreign Courts;
St. Petersburgh, April 14/26;, 1828.
2. Russian Declaration of War (same Date.)
3. Manifesto of The Emperor of Russia (same Date.)
4. Proclamation to the Inhabitants of Moldavia and
Wallachia.
E.-Copy of a Note from The Earl of Dudley to The
Prince de Polignac; Foreign Office, May 9, 1828.
F.-Copy of a Note from The Earl of Aberdeen to The
Prince of Lieven; Foreign Office, June 6, 1828.
G.-Instructions to the Admirals of the Three Powers in
the Levant. (Same as at Pages 32 in Original, and
205 in Translation.)
No. 9. Protocol of Conference of July 2, 1828.
Annexes.
A.-Instructions for the Ambassadors of the Three
Powers.
B.-Copy of a Letter from The Reis Effendi to the Ambassadors of France and Great Britain.
C.-Projêt of Answer to The Reis Effendi's Letter.
D.-Supplementary Instructions to the Ambassadors of
the Three Powers.
E.-Supplementary Instructions to the Admirals of the
Three Powers in the Levant.
No. 10. Protocol of Conference of July 19, 1828.
No. 11. Protocol of Conference of August 11, 1828.
Annexes.
A.-Projêt of Declaration relative to the sending of Troops
to the Morea.
B.-Translation of a Letter from The Reis Effendi to The
Duke of Wellington; Constantinople, July 6, 1828.
C.-Answer to The Duke of Wellington to Ditto; London,
August 6, 1828.
No. 12. Protocol of Conference of August 18, 1828.
Annex.
A.-Instruction for the Admirals.
No. 13. Protocol of Conference of September 24th, 1828.
Annex.
A.-Instructions for the Plenipotentiaries of the Allied
Powers in the Archipelago.
No. 14. Protocol of Conference of September 30, 1828.
Annexes.
A.-Copy of a Dispatch from Count Nesselrode to The
Prince of Lieven; Odessa, August 16/28;, 1828.
(Inclosure in Annex A.)
1. Copy of a Dispatch from Count Nesselrode to
Admiral Count Heyden; Odessa, August 14/26;, 1828.
B.-Copy of a Note from The Earl of Aberdeen to The
Prince of Lieven; Foreign Office, September 30,
1828.
C.-Memorandum of the Plenipotentiary of France.
D.-Notification to be made to The Ottoman Porte.
No. 15. Protocol of Conference of October 11, 1828.
Annexes.
A.-Instructions to the British and French Admirals relative
to the Blockade of the Dardanelles by Russia.
B.-Do. to Do. relative to the Blockade of Candia.
No. 16. Protocol of Conference of November 16, 1828.
Annexes.
A.-Memorandum of the Plenipotentiary of France.
B.-Ditto of the Plenipotentiary of Great Britain.
C.-Ditto of the Plenipotentiary of Russia.
D.-Declaration of the Allied Courts to The Ottoman Porte,
announcing their Provisional Guarantee of the Morea.
No. 17. Protocol of Conference of March 22, 1829.
Annexes.
A.-Memorandum of the Plenipotentiary of France.
B.-Copy of a Dispatch from Count Nesselrode to The
Prince of Lieven; St. Petersburgh, December22, 1828/January 3, 1829.
C.-Copy of a Dispatch from Count Nesselrode to The
Prince of Lieven; St. Petersburgh, January 14/26;, 1829.
(Inclosure in Annex C.)
Copy of a Dispatch from Count de Bulgari to Count
Nesselrode; Poros, December 2/14;, 1828.
D.-Memorandum of the British Plenipotentiary.
No. 18. Protocol of Conference of April 21, 1829.
Annexes.
A.-Copy of a Dispatch from Count Heyden to Sir Pulteney
Malcolm; ægina, January 15/27;, 1829.
B.-Copy of a Dispatch from Count Capodistrias to Sir
Pulteney Malcolm; ægina, January 9/21;, 1829.
C.-Copy of a Dispatch from Count Heyden to Sir Pulteney
Malcolm; ægina, February 10/22;, 1829.
D.-Copy of a Letter from Count Heyden to The Pacha of
Egypt; ægina, February 10/22;, 1829.
E.-Copy of a Dispatch from Count Heyden to The Prince
of Lieven; ægina, February 13/25;, 1829.
(Inclosures in Annex E.)
1. Copy of a Dispatch from Count Heyden to Count
Nesselrode; ægina, February 13/25;, 1829.
2. Same as Annex D.
3. Same as Annex C.
4. Same as Annex E.
No. 19. Protocol of Conference of August 18, 1829.
No. 20. Protocol of Conference of August 29, 1829.
No. 21. Protocol of Conference of September 12, 1829.
Annex.
A.-Copy of a Dispatch from Count Guilleminot and Sir
Robert Gordon to The Earl of Aberdeen; Constantinople, August 16, 1829.
(Inclosures in Annex A.)
1. Copy of a Letter from Count Guilleminot and Sir
Robert Gordon to Count Capodistrias; Smyrna,
June 9, 1829.
2. Copy of a Letter from Count Capodistrias to Count
Guilleminot and Sir Robert Gordon; Napoli,
June 15/27;, 1829.
3. Translation of a Letter from the Provisional Government of Greece to Mr. Dawkins; ægina,
May 11/23;, 1829.
4. Translation of a Memorandum of the Provisional
Government of Greece; Napoli, May24/June5, 1829.
5. Copy of a Note from Count Guilleminot and Sir
Robert Gordon to The Reis Effendi; Constantinople, June 24, 1829.
6. Copy of a Note from Ditto to Ditto; Constantinople, July 9, 1829.
7. Translation of an Official Note from The Reis
Effendi to Count Guilleminot and Sir Robert
Gordon; Constantinople, August 15, 1829.
8. Copy of a Note from Count Guilleminot and Sir
Robert Gordon to The Reis Effendi; Constantinople, August 15, 1829.
No. 22. Protocol of Conference of September 19, 1829.
No. 23. Protocol No. 1. of Conference of February 3, 1830.
Annexes.
A.-Joint Dispatch of the Ambassadors of Great Britain
and France at Constantinople to The Earl of Aberdeen;
Constantinople, September 9, 1829.
B.-Declaration of The Ottoman Porte; Constantinople,
September 9, 1829.
C.-Instructions for the Plenipotentiaries of the Three
Courts at Constantinople, relative to the immediate
Establishment of an Armistice between the Turks and
the Greeks.
D.-Instructions for the Residents of the Three Courts in
Greece, on the same Subject.
E.-Instructions for the Admirals of the Three Powers, on
the same Subject.
F.-Map of Greece, with the Boundaries marked thereon.
G.-Instructions for the Commissioners for laying down the
Limits assigned for Greece.
H.-Instructions for the Plenipotentiaries of the Three
Courts at Constantinople, relative to the Protocol of
February 3, 1830.
I.-Instructions for the Residents of the Three Courts in
Greece, on the same Subject.
No. 24. Protocol No. 2. of Conference of February 3, 1830.
No. 25. Protocol No. 3. of Ditto.
No. 26. Protocol of Conference of February 20, 1830.
Annexes.
A.-Joint Note of the Plenipotentiaries to The Prince
Leopold of Saxe Cobourg.
B.-Answer of Prince Leopold to Ditto.
No. 27. Protocol of Conference of February 26, 1830.
Annexes.
A.-Instructions for the Plenipotentiaries of the Three
Courts at Constantinople.
B.-Instructions for the Residents of the Three Courts in
Greece.
No. 28. Protocol of Conference of April 6, 1830.
Annexes.
A.-Copy of a Letter from Prince Leopold to the Plenipotentiaries; Marlborough House, April 4, 1830.
No. 29. Protocol of Conference of May 14, 1830.
Annexes.
A.-Copy of a joint Dispatch from the Representatives of
the Three Powers at Constantinople to The Earl of
Aberdeen; April 24, 1830.
B.-Copy of a joint Note from the Representatives of the
Three Powers at Constantinople to The Ottoman
Porte; April, 8, 1830.
C.-Translation of an Official Note from The Reis Effendi to
the Representatives of the Three Powers; Constantinople, April 24, 1830.
D.-Extract of a Dispatch from Mr. Dawkins to The Earl
of Aberdeen; Napoli di Romania, April 20, 1830.
E.-Copy of a Note from the Residents of the Three Courts
in Greece to the Greek Provisional Government;
Napoli di Romania, April 20, 1830.
F.-Copy of the Answer of the Provisional Government of
Greece; Napoli di Romania, April 4/16;, 1830.
G.-Circular addressed by the Provisional Government of
Greece to its Naval and Military Commanders; Napoli
di Romania, April 4/16;, 1830.
"Class B.
Protocols of Conferences held at Constantinople between the
Plenipotentiaries of Great Britain, France and Russia.
No. 1. Protocol of Conference of August 16.
Annexes.
A.-Joint Instructions to the Three Interpreters; August 16.
B.-Joint Report of the Three Interpreters; August 16.
C.-Joint Letter to the Internuncio and the Prussian
Minister; August 16.
No. 2. Protocol of Conference of August 17.
Annexes.
A.-Mr. Stratford Canning to Sir E. Codrington; August 17.
B.-Count Guilleminot to Admiral de Rigny; August 17.
C.-M. de Ribeaupierre to Admiral Count Heyden.
No. 3. Protocol of Conference of August 29.
Annexes.
A.-Joint Instructions to the Three Interpreters; August 29.
B.-The Internuncio to the Representatives of the Three
Courts; Buyukdéré, August 17.
C.-The Prussian Minister to Ditto; August 17.
D.-Instructions for the Prussian Interpreter; August 17.
No. 4. Protocol of Conference of August 31.
Annexes.
A.-Joint Report of the Three Interpreters; August 30.
B.-Joint Instructions to Ditto; August 31.
C.-Joint Report of Ditto; August 31.
D.- Mr. Stratford Canning to Sir E. Codrington; August 31.
E.-Count Guilleminot to Admiral de Rigny; August 31.
F.-M. de Ribeaupierre to Admiral Count Heyden;
August 31.
No. 5. Protocol of Conference of September 4.
Annexes.
A.-Mr. Stratford Canning to the British Consuls and
Agents in the Levant; September 8.
B.-Count Guilleminot to the French Ditto; September 6.
C.-M. de Ribeaupierre to the Russian Ditto; September 8.
D.-Letter of the Greek Government relative to the Attack
made by the Austrian Squadron on the Island of
Spezzia; Napoli de Romania, July 22.
E.-Report addressed to the Greek Government on the
same Subject; Spezzia, July 21.
No. 6. Protocol of Conference of September 8.
Annexes.
A.-Reports of the Interpreter of Great Britain; September 4 and 5.
B.-Ditto of the Interpreter of France; September 5.
C.-Ditto of the Interpreter of Russia; September 5.
D.-Joint Instruction to the Three Interpreters; September 9.
No. 7. Protocol of Conference of September 9.
Annexes.
A.-Joint Report of the Three Interpreters; September 9.
B.-Joint Instruction to Ditto; September 9.
No. 8. Protocol of Conference of September 14.
Annexes.
A.-Joint Report of the Three Interpreters; September 11.
B.-Captain Hugon, of the Armide, to Count Guilleminot;
Smyrna, September 6.
C.-Captain Hamilton, of the Cambrian, to Mr. Stratford
Canning; ægina, September 2.
D.-M. Timoni to M. de Ribeaupierre; Smyrna, September 6.
(Inclosures in Annex D.)
1.-The English and French Admirals to the Greek
Government; August 30.
2.-Instruction of Admiral de Rigny to Captain Hugon,
of the Armide; August 31.
3.-Answer of the Greek Government to the Proposals
of the Three Powers; September 2.
4.-Proclamation of the Greek Government.
E.-Admiral de Rigny to Count Guilleminot; Napoli de
Romania, August 19.
F.-Ditto - - - to Ditto; August 22.
G.-Ditto - - - to Ditto (Extract;) Milo, August 26.
H.-Sir Edward Codrington to-August 30.
No. 9. Protocol of Conference of September 29.
Annexes.
A.-Sir Edward Codrington to Mr. Stratford Canning;
Navarino, September 16.
B.-Admiral de Rigny to Count Guilleminot; September 18.
C.-Instructions of Admiral de Rigny to the Commander
of the Magicienne; Milo, August 28.
No. 10. Protocol of Conference of October 12.
Annexes.
A.-Sir Edward Codrington to Mr. Stratford Canning;
Navarino, September 25.
(Inclosures in Annex A.)
1.-Sir Edward Codrington to the Commander of the
Ottoman Forces at Navarino; September 19.
2.-Ditto to the Commander of the Austrian Vessels
at Ditto; September 19.
3.-Substance of a Letter from Captain Hamilton to
Captain Fellowes; Navarino, September 20.
4.-Sir Edward Codrington to Ibrahim Pacha; Navarino,
September 21.
5.-Sir Edward Codrington and Admiral de Rigny to
Ditto; Navarino, September 22.
6.-Substance of a Letter from Sir Edward Codrington
to Ditto; Navarino, September 24.
7.-Sir Frederick Adam to Sir Edward Codrington;
Corfu, September 18.
B.-Admiral de Rigny to Count Guilleminot; Navarino,
September 26.
C.-Instruction for the Austrian Interpreter; Buyukdéré,
October 8.
D.-Count Guilleminot to Admiral de Rigny; September 30.
No. 11. Protocol of Conference of October 13.
Annexes.
A.-Letter from a Captain in His Majesty's Navy (Extract;)
Smyrna, October 8.
B.-Captain Hotham to Captain Crofton; Cape Carabourno,
October 7.
No. 12. Protocol of Conference of October 17.
No. 13. Protocol of Conference of October 29.
Annexes.
A.-Sir Edward Codrington to Mr. Stratford Canning;
October 2 to 14.
(Inclosures in Annex A.)
1.-Sir Edward Codrington to Mustapha Bey; October 2.
2.-Mustapha Bey to Sir Edward Codrington; October 2.
B.-Captain Crofton to Mr. Stratford Canning; Smyrna,
October 23.
C.-Admiral Count Heyden to M. de Ribeaupierre; Navarino, October 15.
No. 14. Protocol of Conference of October 31.
Annexes.
A.-Joint Instructions to the Three Interpreters; October 29.
B.-Joint Report of Ditto; October 30.
C.-M. Timoni to M. de Ribeaupierre (Extract;) Syra,
October 22.
No. 15. Protocol of Conference of November 1.
Annexes.
A.-Sir Edward Codrington to Mr. Stratford Canning;
Navarino, October 20.
B.-Admiral de Rigny to Count Guilleminot; October 20.
C.-Admiral Count Heyden to M. de Ribeaupierre;
October 20.
No. 16. Protocol of Conference of November 2.
Annex.
A.-Joint Instruction to the Three Interpreters; November 2.
No. 17. Protocol of Conference of November 4.
Annexes.
A.-Joint Report of the Three Interpreters; November 2.
B.-Joint Instruction to Ditto; November 4.
No. 18. Protocol of Conference of November 6.
Annex.
A.-Joint Report of the Three Interpreters; November 4.
No. 19. Protocol of Conference of November 7.
No. 20. Protocol of Conference of November 8.
Annexes.
A.-Report of the Interpreter of France; November 7.
B.-Ditto of Ditto of Great Britain; November 8.
C.-Ditto of Ditto of Russia; November 7.
No. 21. Protocol of Conference of November 9.
Annex.
A.-Joint Report of the Three Interpreters; November 9.
No. 22. Protocol of Conference of November 10.
Annexes.
A.-Joint Note of the Three Representatives to The Reis
Effendi; November 10.
B.-Joint Report of the Three Interpreters; November 10
No. 23. Protocol of Conference of November 12.
Annex.
A.-Memorandum of a Conference between Count Guilleminot and The Reis Effendi; November 11.
No. 24. Protocol of Conference of November 14.
Annexes.
A.-The Internuncio to the Representatives of the Three
Courts; November 13.
B.-Mr. Stratford Canning to the Internuncio; November 13.
C.-Joint Instruction to the Three Interpreters; November 14.
No. 25. Protocol of Conference of November 15.
A.-Joint Report of the Three Interpreters; November 14.
B.-First Memorandum communicated by the Ambassador
of France; November 15.
C.-Second Ditto; November 15.
D.-Joint Instruction to the Three Interpreters; November 15.
No. 26. Protocol of Conference of November 16.
Annexes.
A.-Joint Report of the Three Interpreters; November 15.
B.-Memorandum of a Conference between Mr. Stratford
Canning and The Reis Effendi; November 15.
No. 27. Protocol of Conference of November 17.
Annexes.
A.-Memorandum of a Conference between M. de Ribeaupierre and The Reis Effendi; November 17.
B.-Joint Instruction to the Three Interpreters; November 21.
No. 28. Protocol of Conference of November 22.
Annex.
A.-Joint Instruction to the Three Interpreters; November 22.
No. 29. Protocol of Conference of November 23.
Annex.
A.-Joint Report of the Three Interpreters; November 23.
No. 30. Protocol of Conference of November 25.
Annexes.
A.-Report of a secret Interview with The Reis Effendi;
November 24.
B.-Protocol of a Conference between the Three Ministers
and The Reis Effendi; November 24.
C.-Joint Instruction to the Three Interpreters; November 27.
No. 31. Protocol of Conference of November 27.
Annexes.
A.-Joint Report of the Three Interpreters; November 27.
B.-Joint Instruction to Ditto; November 27.
No. 32. Protocol of Conference of November 29.
Annex.
A.-Joint Report of the Three Interpreters; November 28.
No. 33.-Protocol of Conference of December 1.
Annexes.
A.-Report of the British Interpreter; November 29.
B.-Report of the First Interpreter of France; November 29.
C.-Report of the First Interpreter of Russia; November 29.
D.-Instruction given by each of the Three Ministers to
his Interpreter; December 1.
No. 34. Protocol of Conference of December 2.
No. 35. Protocol of Conference of December 3.
No. 36. Protocol of Conference of December 4.
Annexes.
A.-Report of the First Interpreter of France; December 2.
B.-Ditto Ditto December 3.
C.-Report of the British Interpreter; December 3.
D.-Report of the First Interpreter of Russia; December 3.
E.-Joint Instruction to the Three Interpreters; December 5.
"Class C.
Correspondence relative to the Convention of Alexandria.
No. 1. Mr. Barrow to Mr. Backhouse; Admiralty, September 17, 1828.
Inclosure.
Sir Edward Codrington to Mr. Croker; H.M.S. Asia, off
Alexandria, August 9, 1828.
(Sub-Inclosures.)
A.-Protocol of a Conference held at Zante, on the
25th of July 1828, between Admirals Sir E. Codrington, De Rigny and Count Heyden.
Translation of Ditto.
B.-Memorandum of a Conference held at Alexandria,
on the 6th of August 1828, between Sir E. Codrington and The Pacha of Egypt.
C.-Convention concluded by Sir E. Codrington with
The Pacha of Egypt, on the 6th of August 1828.
Translation of Ditto.
Correspondence relative to the Blockade of the Dardanelles.
No. 2. Lord Heytesbury to The Earl of Aberdeen; Odessa, August 28,
1828.
No. 3. The Earl of Aberdeen to Lord Heytesbury; Foreign Office,
September 21, 1828.
No. 4. The Prince of Lieven to The Earl of Aberdeen; September 19,
1828.
Translation of Ditto.
Inclosures.
Count Nesselrode to The Prince of Lieven; Odessa,
August 16/28;, 1828.
Count Nesselrode to Count Heyden; Odessa, August 14/26;,
1828.
(See Class A, Pages 89 and 92, and Translation, Pages 248 and 251.)
No. 5. The Earl of Aberdeen to Lord Heytesbury; Foreign Office,
October 2, 1828.
Inclosure.
The Earl of Aberdeen to The Prince of Lieven; Foreign
Office, September 30, 1828.
(See Class A, P. 94.)
No. 6. Lord Heytesbury to The Earl of Aberdeen; Odessa, October 24,
1828.
Inclosures.
1.-Lord Heytesbury to Count Nesselrode; Odessa,
October 20, 1828.
2.-Count Nesselrode to Lord Heytesbury; Odessa,
October 10/22;, 1828.
Translation of Ditto.
No. 7. Lord Heytesbury to The Earl of Aberdeen; Odessa, October 25,
1828.
No. 8. Lord Heytesbury to The Earl of Aberdeen; St. Petersburgh,
November 15, 1828.
Inclosure.
Count Nesselrode to Lord Heytesbury; St. Petersburgh,
November 2/14;, 1828.
Translation of Ditto.
No. 9. The Earl of Aberdeen to Lord Heytesbury; Foreign Office,
May 22, 1829.
Inclosure.
Admiral Ricord to the Dutch Consul General at Smyrna;
on board the Emanuel, March 16, 1829.
Translation of Ditto.
No. 10. The Earl of Aberdeen to the Lords of the Admiralty; Foreign
Office, May 29, 1829.
Inclosures.
1.-Same as No. 9.
2.-Protocol of Conference held at London, April 21,
1829.
(See Class A, Page 128, and Translation, P. 283.)
No. 11. The Prince of Lieven to The Earl of Aberdeen; Dover Street,
June 13, 1829.
Translation of Ditto.
Correspondence relative to the Raising of Greek Blockades.
No. 12. The Earl of Aberdeen to Mr. Dawkins; Foreign Office,
April 29, 1829.
No. 13. The Earl of Aberdeen to the Lords of the Admiralty; Foreign
Office, April 29, 1829.
No. 14. The Earl of Aberdeen to Lord Stuart de Rothesay; Foreign
Office, May 15, 1829.
Inclosures.
1.-Same as No. 12.
2.-Same as No. 13.
No. 15. Lord Stuart de Rothesay to The Earl of Aberdeen; Paris,
May 22, 1829.
No. 16. Mr. Dawkins to The Earl of Aberdeen; ægina, May 22, 1829.
Inclosure.
Mr. Dawkins to Count Capodistrias; ægina, May 18,
1829.
Translation of Ditto.
No. 17. Mr. Dawkins to The Earl of Aberdeen; ægina, May 28, 1829.
Inclosure.
Count Capodistrias to Mr. Dawkins; ægina, May 11/23;,
1829.
(See Class A, Page 141, and Translation, Page 297.)
No. 18. The Earl of Aberdeen to Lord Stuart de Rothesay; Foreign
Office, June 30, 1829.
No. 19. Lord Stuart de Rothesay to The Earl of Aberdeen; Paris,
July 6, 1829."
Ordered, That the said Papers do lie on the Table.
Ld. Rokeby's Claim, Com ee to meet.
Ordered, That the Committee for Privileges, to whom
the Petition of Matthew Baron of Rokeby, praying their
Lordships, "That his Right to vote at the Election of
Peers of Ireland to sit in the Parliament of the United
Kingdom may be admitted," stands referred, do meet
to consider of the said Claim on Wednesday next.
Sheffield Waterworks Bill Specially reported.
The Lord Wharncliffe reported from the Lords Committees appointed to consider of the Bill, intituled, "An
Act for better supplying with Water the Town and
Parish of Sheffield, in the County of York;" and to
whom were referred certain Petitions of the Inhabitants of
Sheffield, and of Owners of Mill Property in and near
Sheffield, severally praying their Lordships, "That they
may be heard by themselves, their Counsel, Agents and
Witnesses against the said Bill," "That the Committee
had met, and considered the said Bill, and also the said
Petitions against the Bill, and in the first place, proceeded to enquire how far the Standing Orders of the
House relative to Bills for supplying Places with Water
had been complied with, and thereupon certain Petitioners against the Bill, being Mill Owners, having
tendered Evidence to prove that the said Standing
Orders had not been complied with, inasmuch as it
would be to the Prejudice of the said Mill Owners if
the Bill passed into a Law, and that they had not been
applied to previously to the Bill being brought to this
House from the House of Commons, the Committee
proceeded to hear such Evidence, when such Mill
Owners withdrew their Objection; it then appeared to
the Committee that the said Standing Orders had been
complied with on this Bill; and the Committee had
heard Counsel and examined Witnesses for and against
the Bill, and had examined the Allegations thereof,
which were found to be true; and that the Committee
had gone through the Bill, and directed him to report
the same to their Lordships, with some Amendments."
Which Report, being read by the Clerk, was agreed to
by the House.
Then the Amendments made by the Committee to the
said Bill were read by the Clerk, as follow; (vizt.)
"Pr. 7. L. 24. Leave out from ("any") to ("in")
in Line 27, and insert ("Springs, Watercourses and
other Sources of Water which may be discovered.")
"Pr.18. L. 10. Leave out from ("Porter") to
("and") in Line 30.
"Pr. 95. L. 26. After ("Inspection") insert ("and
may take Copies of or Extracts from the said Book or
Books or any Part thereof")
And the said Amendments, being read a Second Time,
were agreed to by the House.
Hickson's Marriage Annulling Bill.
The Order of the Day being read for the Second
Reading of the Bill, intituled, "An Act to declare void
an alleged Marriage between Elizabeth Hickson, an
Infant, and Thomas Buxton;" and for hearing Counsel
for the same, as also Counsel on behalf of the said Thomas
Buxton against the Bill; and for the Lords to be summoned;
Ordered, That the said Bill be read a Second Time on
Thursday the 3d of June next; and that Counsel be then
heard for the same, as also Counsel on behalf of the said
Thomas Buxton against the Bill; and that the Lords be
summoned; and that the Witnesses who were Ordered to
attend do then attend.
Rickmersworth Road Bill.
The Earl of Shaftesbury reported from the Lords
Committees, to whom the Bill, intituled, "An Act for
more effectually repairing the Road from the Town of
Rickmersworth, in the County of Hertford, through
the Village of the Pinner, to or near the Swan Public
House at Sudbury Common in the Turnpike Road
leading from Harrow to London," was committed;
That they had considered the said Bill, and examined
the Allegations thereof, which were found to be true;
and that the Committee had gone through the Bill, and
directed him to report the same to the House, without
any Amendment."
East Retford Election Bill:
The Order of the Day being read for the further Consideration and Second Reading of the Bill, intituled,
An Act to prevent Bribery and Corruption in the
Election of Burgesses to serve in Parliament for the
Borough of East Retford;" and for the Lords to be
summoned; and for permitting Counsel to examine
Witnesses in support of the Bill; and for hearing Counsel
on the Petition of the Burgesses of the Borough of East
Retford, in the County of Nottingham, whose Names are
thereunto subscribed, praying their Lordships, "That
the said Bill may not pass into a Law;"
Counsel were accordingly called in.
Then Thomas Hudson was called in; and having been
sworn, was examined as follows:
(Mr. Law.) "Is your Name Thomas Hudson?"
"Yes."
"Are you a Burgess of East Retford?"
"I am."
"When were you admitted a Burgess?"
"About Forty-three Years ago."
"In the Election of 1818, to whom did you promise
your Vote, when Mr. Evans and Mr. Crompton stood?"
"Mr. Evans and Mr. Crompton."
"Did you receive any Money after that Election?"
"I did not."
"Did you receive any Letter?"
"I did not."
"Did any one receive a Letter or Money on your
Account, to your Knowledge?"
"There was a Packet left in the House one Evening."
"Did you see the Packet?"
"I did not."
"Did you receive any Money?"
"I did not."
"Who was living in your House at the Time?"
"A Person of the Name of Sarah Wann, a Housekeeper of mine."
"How were you enabled to know that the Packet was
left?"
"Because she shewed me the Packet; the Case
of it."
"Did she state that it contained Money?"
"She did not."
"Did she state to you what it contained?"
"She stated to me it contained some Paper inside;
but the Amount I do not know."
(Mr. Adam.) "When did she make this Statement?"
"When I came Home in the Evening, or the next
Day, she made a Statement to me."
(Mr. Law.) "When was the Packet produced to
you?"
"The Evening after."
"What did she state to you, upon producing to you
that Packet?"
"She stated to me as this, that there was something in
it-something of the Paper kind."
"Do you mean, that she stated Paper merely?"
"She told me Paper."
"What sort of Paper?"
"I cannot tell what sort of Paper it was."
"Did she state to you what she had done with the
Paper contained in this Packet?"
"I told her, when she told me of it, to put it away,
and take care of it; but as to the Amount, I know no
more of it than you do."
"What did she state the Paper to consist of?"
"She never stated any thing of that kind to me, what
that consisted of."
"Do you mean to represent to their Lordships, that
she stated that this Packet contained nothing but
common Paper?"
"I do not say common Paper; it was Paper."
"Do you mean to represent that she simply said Paper,
without Allusion to Money?"
"She never mentioned Money to me."
"Did you understand what she meant, when she
stated that it contained Paper?"
Mr. Adam objected to the Question.
(By a Lord.) "She stated to you that there was
Paper in it, but you say she did not state the Amount?"
"She never said any thing to me about the Amount of
the Paper, not to my Knowledge."
Mr. Adam was heard in support of his Objection.
Mr. Law was heard in support of the Question.
The Counsel were informed, "That their Lordships
must draw their own Inferences."
(Mr. Law.) "What did you mean by stating to
their Lordships, that you did not know the Amount of
the Paper?"
"Because I did not know it; and in fact I did not
ask her any thing of the kind."
"What induced you to state that she did not state the
Amount of it?"
"Because she never did."
"The Amount of what?"
"I do not know what you mean."
(By a Lord.) "She stated that there was Paper in
it, but she did not state to you the Amount?"
"She did not state to me the Amount."
(Mr. Law.) "What did you mean by saying, that
she did not state the Amount of it; did you mean by
that, the Quantity of Paper in this Packet, or the
Amount of Money?"
"The Amount of Money !-I see'd no Money."
"Do you mean the Amount of Money, or the Amount
of Paper?"
"She never mentioned the Amount of Money or of
Paper to me."
"What did you mean by stating to their Lordships,
of your own Accord, "She did not mention to me
the Amount?"
"I knowed nothing of the Amount; nothing at all;
nor she never stated it to me."
"What did you mean by stating to their Lordships,
that she did not mention to you the Amount; what
did you mean by the Word "Amount" yourself?"
"I do not understand your Meaning at all."
The Witness was admonished to answer the Question.
"It is a hard Thing for a Man to answer to a Thing
he does not know."
(Mr. Law.) "Do you mean to state to their Lordships, that you do not yourself know the Meaning of
the Term you used, the Word "Amount?"
"You may call the Amount, if you please, a Sum of
Money; but I cannot exactly say what the Sum was.
Well, why should I know the Amount?"
"Did that Person afterwards account to you for any
Sum of Money so received?"
"No, never. She was a Person I could trust with any
thing."
"Did you authorize her to retain whatever was contained in that Packet for her own Use?"
"No, I never did."
"Or for yours?"
"Why, for my own Services, certainly."
"Do you, or not, upon your Oath, know whether any
Money with which you had not personally supplied her
was applied to your own Purposes by her?"
"Certainly it was."
"How much?"
"I cannot tell."
(Mr. Adam.) "Do you know that, except as she told
you?"
"I cannot answer to that exactly, because I never
kept no Account against her."
"Do you know as to the Application of the Money to
which you have been asked, except as Mrs. Wann told
you?"
"She sometimes told me how she had disposed of the
Money in housekeeping, and the like of that."
"Do you know it from what she told you, or from
any other Source?"
"I cannot speak to that."
(Mr. Law.) "Did she account to you at any Time
for the Money so received?"
"When she had laid out the Money in housekeeping,
she gave me the Account every Week."
"Did she give you Credit for any Sum not given by
you to her?"
"I never asked her any Question of the kind."
(Mr. Adam.) "Were her Account in Writing?"
"Yes."
(By a Lord.) "What has become of this Account?"
"Indeed I cannot say; I never took any Care of them,
except from one Book to another."
"Are they lost?"
"I suppose they are."
(Mr. Adam.) "Have you ever looked for them, so as
to be able to say whether they are lost or not?"
"No."
"How do you know that you should not find them if
you searched?"
"I do not know; probably I might, if I searched."
(Mr. Law.) "Did you know of any other Packet
after 1818?"
"No."
"Had you none produced to you but that one?"
"Not after that, nor never before."
"Do you mean to swear that you had not a second
Packet produced to you by the same Person?"
"I do."
"You did not receive any second after 1818?"
"I never did."
"Whom did you promise your Vote to for 1820, when
those Gentlemen, Mr. Evans and Mr. Crompton, stood
again?"
"To them again."
"Did you receive any Money or Packet after that
Election?"
"Not any. I cannot recollect rightly. Yes, I did
receive a Packet."
"One, or Two?"
"One."
"What did it contain?"
"To the best of my Knowledge, I think I can recollect
that the Packet contained Forty Guineas."
"Whom did you vote for at the last Election?"
"The last of all, I voted for Sir Robert Dundas and
Mr. William Battie Wrightson."
"In the Year 1790, when Sir John Ingilby and William
Henry Clinton Esquire were elected, whom did you
vote for; did you vote for either of the successful
Candidates-those Gentlemen?"
"I voted for them both."
"Did you receive any thing after that Election?"
"Not One Farthing."
"Nor any one to your Use?"
"No; that I am certain of. After that Election, I left
Retford, and came to London; and I was here Twoand-twenty Years."
"Then you had no Opportunity of interfering in
Elections 'till 1818?"
"No."
"From 1790 to 1818, you took no Part in the Elections?"
"No; I was away the biggest Part of the Time."
"Did you, in the Interval between 1806 and 1818,
vote or promise your Vote to any one?"
"I am sure I cannot recollect. If you can tell me
who were the Candidates, perhaps I can think of it."
"William Ingilby and General Charles Crawford, in the
Year 1807?"
"I voted for them."
"Did you receive any Packet after that Election, or
any Money, upon your Oath?"
"No."
"Are you quite sure of that?"
"Quite certain."
"Did no one receive any for your Use, to your Knowledge?"
"No; no living Soul."
"Was this good Lady you are speaking of, the
Housekeeper, living with you at that Time?"
"No, she was not."
Cross-examined by Mr. Adam.
"You have been in London, you say, for Two-andtwenty Years?"
"Yes, I have."
"We have heard that non-resident Freemen of Retford
can poll, cannot they?"
"Oh yes; they can do that. I could do so."
"Were you ever canvassed during that Time?"
"Yes; I was canvassed by Mr. Petrie."
"That was since you left Retford and came to
London?"
"Yes, exactly so."
"Do you remember in what Year?"
"I cannot remember that."
"Was it in 1796?"
"I cannot recollect; I do not keep such Things as
that in my Recollection."
"Can you tell whether it was 1796 or 1802?"
"No, I cannot."
"But, however, you received no Money?"
"No, I did not."
"In 1826, you voted for Sir Robert Dundas and
Mr. Wrightson?"
"Yes."
"Did you promise them your Votes?"
"I did."
"Did they give you any Promise of any thing?"
"They never said a Word of any thing of the kind
to me."
"Have you received any Money since 1826?"
"No."
"In 1820, who canvassed you?"
"I am sure I forget."
"Where were you living, in Retford or London, at
that Time?"
"In 1820 I was in Retford."
"Recollect who canvassed you then; did Mr. Evans
himself, or Mr. Crompton?"
"I think they both did."
"Did you promise them?"
"I did."
"Did they promise you any thing?"
"No."
"In the Year 1818?"
"No; they never made any Promise to me, nor nothing
of the kind."
"Are you a Freeman of any other Borough?"
"I am not."
"Mrs. Wayman kept your House for you?"
"Sarah Wann was her Name; begging your Pardon."
"How long did she keep your House?"
"Three Years."
"Were you in the habit of paying her Money,
and she in the habit of disbursing the Money for
you?"
"As far as the housekeeping went."
"Was that just the same through the whole of the
Years 1818 and 1819; did you sometimes pay her
Money, and did she sometimes pay your Accounts?"
"You have got into a wrong Year."
"Was there the same Course of Management in 1818
and the other Years?"
"I think, if I recollect right, this Gentleman was
talking to me about Petrie and Amcott's Election, and
Sir William Ingilby's."
"He was talking to you about the Money in
1818?"
"That was a Misunderstanding. When Sarah Wann
lived with me I lost my first Wife; then she came to
live with me; and then I married again."
"When did she live with you?"
"She lived with me in 1808, 1809 and 1810."
"You are sure she gave you a Packet, are you?"
"Yes, I am certain of that."
"Was it in 1808, 1809 or 1810, you got the
Packet?"
"I cannot speak to that, as I do not recollect
it."
"Did she live with you at any other Time?"
"No; because I married again after that, and then
she quitted my Service."
"Did you vote in 1802, in General Crawford and
Mr. Jeffrey's Election?"
"Yes, I voted then."
"Did you vote for the Duke's Interest, or whose
Interest?"
"I voted for the Duke."
"They were both in the Duke's Interest, were not
they?"
"Yes; and I voted, I think, for Mr. Bowles, if that
was his Election."
"Did you vote for Crawford and Jeffrey?"
"I voted for Crawford, for One."
"Do you remember when you voted for Jeffrey?"
"I cannot say."
"They stood in the same Interest, did not they?"
"I believe they did."
"That was in the Duke's Interest, the Pink, was not
it?"
"Yes, I think it was. I recollect there, that the
Candidates were Burnham and Bowles, and Crawford
and Jeffrey."
"You split, did you?"
"Yes."
"Whose Interest did Bowles stand on?"
"Upon his own, I suppose."
Re-examined by Mr. Law.
"You say this good Woman lived with you in the Years
1808, 1809 and 1810?"
"Yes."
"How long after the Election of Sir William Ingilby
was it that your Housekeeper produced you this
Packet?"
"I am sure I cannot tell; that Evening, or the
Evening after; I cannot say which."
"The Evening of the Election Day?"
"No, no; it might perhaps be Eighteen Months after
the Election."
"It appears you were mistaking the Year to which I
was asking you. After the Election of Mr. Evans and
Mr. Crompton, for the first Time, in the Year 1818, did
you receive any Packet?"
"No, I think not."
"Consider that again?"
"No, I think I did not."
"Recollect; did you promise Mr. Evans your Vote?"
"I did."
"And him alone?"
"I promised him and Mr. Crompton Votes."
"I ask you whether after the Election of 1818, in the
Year 1819, you did not receive a Packet, and more
than One?"
"I am sure I forget, I do indeed."
"What, if any thing, did you receive in the Year 1819,
which was after the Election in 1818."
"Whose was that?"
"Mr. Evans and Mr. Crompton's first Election."
"The same Sum, I believe."
"What Sum?"
"Twenty Guineas each, I think."
(Mr. Adam.) "Do you mean to say that you received
Two Sums of Forty Guineas, or only One?"
"Two Sums for the Two Elections."
"Two Sums of Forty Guineas each?"
"Yes."
The Witness was directed to withdraw.
Then John Denman was called in; and having been sworn,
was examined as follows:
(Mr. Price.) "Are you a Freeman of Retford?"
"Yes."
"How long have you been a Freeman?"
"About Twelve or Thirteen Years."
"Were you a Freeman at the Time of the Election of
1818?"
"Yes."
"When Mr. Crompton and Mr. Evans were Candidates
for the first Time?"
"Yes, I was."
"Did you promise either of those Gentlemen before
the Election?"
"Yes; I was canvassed by them; I promised them
when they came round to canvass me."
"After that Election, at any Time, did you receive
any Money?"
"I received a Packet."
"What did that Packet contain?"
"I cannot say now, to the best of my Knowledge."
"What did that Packet contain?"
"I do not know whether there were either One or Two
Bills; whether it was either Twenty or Twenty-one
Pounds."
"Did you receive, after that Election, One or Two
Packets?"
"I only received One."
"Do you recollect the Election of 1820, when
Mr. Crompton and Mr. Evans were Candidates the
second Time?"
"Yes."
"Did you promise your Vote to those Gentlemen
again?"
"Yes; at least to those who came to canvass for
them."
"After that Election, did you receive any thing?"
"I believe I received One Packet; the same as I had
had before."
"What did that contain?"
"The same as the others."
"Whom did you vote for at the last Election of
1826?"
"For Sir Robert Dundas and Mr. Wrightson."
Cross-examined by Mr. Alderson.
"Are those the only Three Elections you remember?"
"I was never a Burgess before."
"Do you recollect any Election before that?"
"I had nothing to do with those."
"Where do you reside?"
"In London."
"Did you go down in the General Election of
1818?"
"I was not a Resident then in London; I was in the
Country."
"Where did you reside then?"
"At Tuxford."
"What was your Business at Tuxford?"
"I was a Farmer."
"Did you go over to the Election, or stay away?"
"I went over on the Election Day."
"Was there any Opposition?"
"No, not at all."
"When was it that you received those Two Packets
you received, or the One Packet, the first Time; how
many did you receive after 1818?"
"One each Time."
"You say there was £20 or £21?"
"Yes; I cannot say exactly which."
"Did you promise both Mr. Evans and Mr. Crompton?"
"I do not know whether I promised them both or not.
At one Time Mr. Crompton came to canvass me, and I
do not know to a Certainty which of them came to
canvass me for the other; I was at Plough at the
Time."
"Did somebody come to canvass?"
"I believe they did."
"You do not recollect whether you saw Mr. Evans
yourself?"
"No."
"Or Mr. Crompton?"
"No."
"Was there any Promise made to you when they
asked you for your Vote?"
"No."
"What passed at the Time of canvassing you?"
"I can state so far as this, that I never expected nor
never had the least Promise of Money from no Gentleman whatever."
"On neither Election?"
"On neither Election."
"You were at Plough, I think you say?"
"Yes."
"Did they stop your Horses?"
"I saw some Gentlemen; I did not know their
Business; but I made it my Business to come down to
the Bottom of the Field to meet them?"
"Did they shake Hands with you?"
"I cannot say."
"I want to know how they canvassed?"
"I cannot say; if they asked me for my Vote I promised them, I have not the least Doubt."
"In 1820, where were you residing?"
"At the same Place."
"Did you see either Mr. Evans or Mr. Crompton on
that Occasion?"
"No, I do not recollect that I did; I do not know now."
"Did you receive the Packet with your own Hands,
or did any other Person receive it?"
"I never received any with my own Hands."
"How did it come to you?"
"My Father received it, I believe."
"How do you know that your Father received it?"
"Because he told me."
"When did he tell you so?"
"It was late when he brought this Packet to me."
"At what Time in the Year was it he brought the
Packet to you?"
"I cannot say now."
"In what Year was it?"
"I cannot say, to a Certainty."
"Was it the same Year that the Election was, or the
Year afterwards?"
"Indeed I do not know."
"Was it long after the Election, or soon after?"
"I believe it was a good length of Time; but I
cannot say to no Certainty."
"Perhaps you can tell me better as to 1820, how long
that was after the Election?"
"No."
"How did you get it?"
"I think he received it the same as the other."
"Do you remember any thing about it?"
"No; only that he had it sent to him, I believe, by
some Person."
"Did he send it to you?"
"No; I was at Home; and he considered it the same
as for himself."
"Is your Father a Burgess?"
"No."
"How came you to be a Burgess, as your Father was
not?"
"I was an Apprentice."
"When did your Father tell you about this Packet?"
"I cannot say."
"How long after you heard of it was it that he told
you of it?"
"I cannot recollect now how long it was."
"Did he give it you himself, or send it you?"
"I was living at Home with my Father."
"Did you see the Person who brought it?"
"No."
"Who gave it you into your own Hand?"
"My Father, I believe."
"Have you any Recollection of that?"
"No."
"Have you any Recollection of what he said when he
gave it you?"
"No, I have not."
"Have you any Recollection of what he said when he
gave it you, either Time?"
"No."
"All you know is, that, as far as you remember, your
Father gave you the Packets after each Election, containing Twenty Pounds or Twenty Guineas?"
"Yes."
"How they came to him you cannot tell, and your
Father never told you?"
"No."
"Did he give you the Money?"
"Yes."
"You did get the Money?"
"Yes."
"The last Time, you say you voted for Sir Robert
Dundas and Mr. Wrightson?"
"Yes."
"Had you any Promise or Expectation then?"
"No, not at all."
"You say you made no Promise on either of the
former Elections?"
"No."
"Have you had any Money since that?"
"No."
"In the last Four Years, you have had no Money?"
"No."
"Were you at the Election?"
"Yes."
"Did you see the rioting?"
"I saw very little of it; I was a Resident in London;
and I was very glad to be out of it."
"On which Day did you vote; the first or the
second?"
"The first."
"Had you any Difficulty in polling the first Day?"
"No; I got in very quietly; there was great Disturbance after I came out of the Hall."
"At what Time was that?"
"Four or Five o'Clock in the Afternoon."
"At what Time of the Day did the polling begin?"
"I cannot tell; it was rather late in the Day, I think,
before the Poll commenced."
"What Time do you call late?"
"Ten or Eleven or Twelve o'Clock."
"For the first Four or Five Hours there was no
Difficulty in polling?"
"There was no rioting."
"Had you any Difficulty in polling?"
"No; I squeezed in along with the rest."
"It was not difficult for a Person to poll the first
Day?"
"No, not particularly."
Re-examined by Mr. Price.
"When you were canvassed in 1818, was Mr. John
Thornton present?"
"I do not know, indeed."
"When those Gentlemen came into the Field, was
Mr. John Thornton present?"
"I do not know."
"Did you know Mr. John Thornton?"
"Oh yes, of course I knew him; he was my Brotherin-Law."
"You say you received a Packet from your Father?"
"Yes."
"Did your Father receive another Packet besides?"
"No."
"Did you see any other Packet besides the One that
your Father brought to you?"
"No."
"The Witness was directed to withdraw.
Then Thomas Willey was called in; and having been
sworn, was examined as follows:
(Mr. Law.) "Is your Name Thomas Willey?"
"Yes."
"Are you a Burgess of Retford?"
"Yes."
"Do you recollect the Election of Mr. Osbaldeston and
Mr. Marsh?"
"Yes."
"To whom did you promise your Vote upon that
Occasion?"
"To Mr. Marsh and Mr. Osbaldeston."
"To both those Gentlemen?"
"Yes."
"Do you know the Angel Inn at Retford?"
"Yes."
"Were you there at any Time in the Year 1814?"
"No."
"Not in 1814?"
"No."
"Do you know Mr. Hannam?"
"Yes, I do."
"Were you at the Angel Inn at any Time when
Mr. Hannam was there?"
"No."
"Did you receive any thing from Mr. Hannam after
that Election?"
"Not myself."
"Did any one for you, to your Knowledge?"
"Yes."
"Who was it?"
"My Wife."
"What was received by her?"
"Twenty-one Pounds."
"Did you get the Money afterwards?"
"Yes; she brought it Home."
"Did she give it to you?"
"Yes."
"Did she state where she got it?"
"Yes."
"Where did she say she got it?"
"That she got it at the Angel."
"The Angel Inn in Retford?"
"Yes."
"In the Election of Mr. Crompton and Mr. Evans, in
the Year 1818, whom did you promise upon that
Occasion?"
"Mr. Crompton and Mr. Evans."
"Did you receive any Packets, or not, after that
Election?"
"Yes."
"How many?"
"Two."
"What did they contain?"
"Twenty-one Pounds each."
"In the Election of 1820, did you promise those
Gentlemen again?"
"Yes."
"What did you receive after that Election?"
"The same Quantity."
"Two Packets containing Twenty Guineas each?"
"Yes."
The Petition against the Bill was shewn to the
Witness; and he was asked-
"Is that your Name and Handwriting?"
"Yes."
Cross-examined by Mr. Adam.
"How came you to sign that?"
"It was brought to me to sign; I did not know no
Meaning for it."
"When was that?"
"I do not exactly know the Day."
"When were you sent for to come up here?"
"On Thursday last."
"You had signed this Petition before that?"
"Yes."
"Who came to you?"
"I forget his Name just now."
"Are you living in Retford now?"
"Yes; when I am at Home."
"Did you, at the last Election in 1826?"
"Yes."
"Did you vote?"
"Yes."
"Whom did you vote for?"
"Mr. Dundas and Mr. Wrightson."
"Who canvassed you to vote for them; did they
canvass you themselves?"
"Yes."
"Did you promise them?"
"Yes."
"Did they make any Promise to you of any kind?"
"No."
"Have you received any Money whatever since the
Year 1820?"
"No."
"How long have you been a Freeman?"
"I think about Thirty-four Years."
"Do you remember the Elections before 1814?"
"Yes, I can remember something about them."
"Do you remember the Election in 1802?"
"Not particularly."
"General Robert Crawford and Jeffrey?"
"Yes; I remember something of that."
"Did you vote for them?"
"Yes."
"For whom?"
"General Crawford and Mr. Jeffrey."
"For the Duke's Candidates, were not they?"
"Yes."
"Have you known The Duke of Newcastle's Interest
ever since you have known Retford?"
"I do not know."
"Has there not always been an Interest in your Time
called the Duke's Interest?"
"Yes, I understood so."
"You have heard Persons say so since you have been
a Freeman?"
"Yes, and before I was a Freeman."
"You belonged to the Duke's Interest?"
"Yes, at that Time."
"In 1802, did you receive any Money?"
"I do not know, I am sure, by the Year of our Lord;
I cannot say."
"You remember Robert Crawford and Jeffrey?"
"Yes."
"After their Election, will you venture to say you
received any Money?"
"Yes."
"Recollect yourself?"
"Yes; but I do not recollect the Time of the Year
that the Election was in."
"You remember the Election?"
"Yes."
"Do you mean to swear that you received any Money
after Robert Crawford and Jeffrey's Election?"
"There was some Packets came, I think."
"How many Packets came at that Time?"
"I do not know."
"Were there Four?"
"No; I think Two; but I cannot say."
"How did they come?"
"I do not know."
"Where were you living then?"
"I was living in Retford."
"Who brought them?"
"I do not know."
"What did they contain?"
"I think Twenty-one Pounds."
"Have you any Doubt of that?"
"No."
"You have no Doubt you received Two Packets in
1802 for Twenty-one Pounds each?"
"By the Year of our Lord, I do not know."
"But after the Election of Robert Crawford and
Jeffrey; you remember that Election very well?"
"Yes."
"You are not confounding that with Crompton and
Evans's, are you?"
"I do not know that I am."
"Have you any Recollection, upon your Oath, of
having received any Money after Robert Crawford
and Jeffrey's Election? Recollect, before you answer
that Question."
"I do not know; not just at this Moment."
"Have you the least Recollection of it?"
"I do not recollect."
"Did you ever say to any body 'till To-day that you
had?"
"I do not know; I do not understand the Question."
"Do you see the Gentleman who stands behind
Mr. Law; Mr. Heptinstall, the Attorney?"
"Yes, I have seen him."
"Did he examine you?"
"No."
"Who examined you?"
"No Person examined me."
"You mean that no Person took from your Mouth
the Substance of your Examination; what you knew?"
"No; no Person living."
"Has nobody spoken to you before you came here
to be a Witness To-day, as to what you knew about
Elections?"
"No."
"Did you ever say to any Human Being, 'till To-day,
that Packets or Money were ever received after Robert
Crawford and Jeffrey's Election?"
"I do not remember that Circumstance."
"You do not recollect whether any Money was
received or not?"
"I recollect that I received Packets after that."
"After Crawford and Jeffrey's?"
"After Crawford and Jeffrey's and Mr. Evans's
Election."
"Are not you confounding Mr. Evans and Crompton's
Election with Jeffrey and Crawford's?"
"Jeffrey and Crawford's was before Evans's."
"When did you receive the Money; at Crawford and
Jeffrey's, or not until Crompton and Evans's?"
"I received some Packets after Crawford's Election."
"That you swear?"
"Yes."
Re-examined by Mr. Law.
"My Learned Friend has asked you after Crawford
and Jeffrey's Election; do you remember Crawford and
Mr. Higham being elected?"
"I do not know much of them."
"Do you remember Sir William Ingilby and Charles
Crawford being elected, in 1807?"
"Yes; I remember Sir William Ingilby's Election."
"Whom did you promise on that Election?"
"Sir William Ingilby."
"Did you receive any Money after that Election?"
"Yes; I received a Packet."
"What did it contain?"
"Forty-two Pounds."
"Do you recollect Sir John Ingilby and William Henry
Clinton's Election?"
"Yes."
"Whom did you promise then?"
"Sir John Ingilby."
"Did you receive any thing after that Election?"
"No."
"Do you remember William Petrie and Sir Wharton
Amcott's Election?"
"Yes; I recollect something about it."
"Did you vote for either of those Gentlemen?"
"Yes, I did."
"Did you receive any thing afterwards?"
"Yes."
"What did you receive afterwards?"
"Forty-two Pounds."
(By a Lord.) "Have you a Brother?"
"No; I have no Brother."
The Witness was directed to withdraw.
Then George Whitlam was called in; and having been
sworn, was examined as follows:
(Mr. Price.) "Are you a Freeman of Retford?"
"Yes."
"How many Years have you been so?"
"Since 1820."
"You recollect the Election of 1820, when Mr. Crompton and Mr. Evans were Candidates?"
"Yes."
"Did you promise those Gentlemen?"
"Yes."
"Did you receive any thing after that Election?"
"No."
"Did you receive any Packet after it?"
"No."
"Did you receive any Money after that Election?"
"No."
"Did any Person receive any Money for you?"
"There was a Packet or something left when I was
at my Father's."
"What did that Packet contain?"
"There was a Twenty Pound Note and a One Pound
Note in it."
"Who delivered it you?"
"I do not know."
"Who gave it into your Hand?"
"I do not know."
"Where did you see it?"
"In my Father's House."
"Was your Father a Freeman?"
"No."
"To whom was it directed?"
"Well, I forgot to whom it was directed; I cannot
speak to that."
"Who opened it?"
"I opened it."
"Who had the Money?"
"I had the Money out of it."
"What did you do with it?"
"I cannot swear to what I did with it."
"Did you keep it for your own Use?"
"Yes."
The Petition against the Bill was shewn to the Witness;
and he was asked -
"Is that your Name and Handwriting?"
"Yes."
Cross-examined by Mr. Alderson.
"When did you sign that Parchment?"
"I am sure I cannot tell now when it was."
"How long ago?"
"I cannot tell how long ago."
"As nearly as you can, tell me?"
"Perhaps Two or Three Months; a Couple of Months,
perhaps."
"When were you summoned to attend here?"
"Last Thursday."
"Who summoned you?"
"I forget the Gentleman's Name; I think they called
him Mr. Butt."
"Did he bring you up to Town with him?"
"No."
"How did you come when you did come?"
"I came by the Coach."
"When did you arrive?"
"On Friday."
"Were you examined upon your Arrival?"
"No."
"Where did you go upon your Arrival?"
"I went to Snow Hill, to Mr. Mills's, the White
Swan."
"Whose Office did you go to?"
"I went to -"
"To Mr. Heptinstall's?"
"Yes."
"What passed between you and Mr. Heptinstall, when
you first got to the Office?"
"I went to let Mr. Heptinstall know I had come to
Town."
"What did he say to you?"
"I cannot tell the Words, I am sure; I do not know
what Conversation took place, only that I should wish
not to come before the Lords that Night, after being
travelling all Night, and being fatigued."
"That you wished to refresh yourself before you came
before their Lordships?"
"Yes."
"And of course Mr. Heptinstall, being a civil Man,
let you do that?"
"He said I might attend here, and I did attend."
"You attended in Dishabille?"
"I attended here last Friday Night."
"Was nothing said to you about what you were to
prove when you came here?"
"Nothing at all."
"They did not ask you?"
"No."
"They did not ask you, nor you did not tell them,
what you could say?"
"No."
"Or what you were to come and be examined upon?"
"No."
"And you did not know what it was about?"
"I could not tell what it was about."
"What did you think it was about?"
"I could not tell."
"You could not tell what Information their Lordships
expected of you?"
"No; I knew nothing about it."
"Did not Mr. Butt tell you any thing?"
"No."
"Only that you were wanted?"
"Yes."
"Were not you very much surprised?"
"Yes, I was very much surprised."
"You were surprised, I suppose, that so humble an
Individual should attract their Lordships Notice?"
"Yes."
"Did Mr. Mee say any thing to you?"
"I have not seen Mr. Mee."
"What was the first Election you voted at?"
"1820."
"That was the second Election of Evans and Crompton?"
"That was the first Election I voted for."
"You said something about some Packets; who gave
you those Packets?"
"I cannot tell who gave them to me; I was not at
Home when they came."
"Do you know any thing about them, or of the Persons who gave them to you?"
"They did not give them to me; they sent them to
my Father and Mother's House."
"You found them?"
"I saw a Packet there, and took it."
"When was that?"
"I am sure I cannot say."
"You must tell us as nearly as you can, as you have
come all this Way?"
"I think it might have been Eighteen Months or so,
or from that to Two Years, as nearly as I can guess."
"Was it about 1822?"
"Well, I cannot speak to that."
"Were both of them sent at the same Time?"
"I am sure I cannot tell."
"Did you ever receive Two?"
"Yes; I received Two Packets."
"Whom did you vote for at the last Election?"
"Sir Henry Wright Wilson."
"Did you have any thing after that?"
"No."
"Nothing left at your Father's?"
"No."
"Are you sure of that?"
"I am sure of it."
"You were canvassed, were not you, before the last
Election?"
"Yes."
"Did you not promise to vote for Dundas and Wrightson?"
"No."
"Whom did you promise to vote for?"
"Sir Henry Wright Wilson."
"Before the Election?"
"Yes."
"How came you to vote for Sir Henry Wright Wilson;
did he make you any Promise to pay you any thing?"
"No; there was no Promise made."
"Was any thing said about whether you should be
paid?"
"Paid! - I never expected to be paid for any thing
of the kind."
"Not on the Election?"
"No."
"Had you any Promise before the former Election;
of course you could not have it; did you expect it?"
"I never had any Promise from any Person."
"Nor any Expectation?"
"No."
"Will you undertake to swear where the Packet came
from?"
"I cannot say where it came from."
"The first Election you had no Promise, nor any
thing at all?"
"No; nor the other Elections neither."
"How came you to vote for Sir Henry Wright
Wilson?."
"Because he was a Man that agreed with my Principles."
"In what respect?"
"He said he was come forward for the Protestant
Cause; to support the Protestant Cause."
"So you voted for the Protestant Cause last Time?"
"Yes."
Re-examined by Mr. Price.
"You remember the Election of 1820, when you promised Mr. Crompton and Mr. Evans?"
"Yes."
"How long before that had you taken up your Freedom?"
"I took up my Freedom the Election Day Morning."
The Witness was directed to withdraw.
Then John Burton was called in; and having been sworn,
was examined as follows:
(Mr. Law.) "Is your Name John Burton?"
"Yes."
"Are you a Burgess of East Retford?"
"Yes."
"Do you recollect Mr. Marsh and Mr. Osbaldeston's
Election?"
"Yes."
"Do you know the Angel Inn at Retford?"
"Yes."
"Did you, at any Time in the Year 1814, go to the
Angel Inn?"
"I did go there; but I am no Scholar."
"You are no Scholar; but you went to the Angel
Inn?"
"Yes."
"Did you receive any Money there?"
"Yes; Ten Guineas."
"Did you see Mr. Hannam there at the Time?"
"Yes; I saw Mr. Hannam there."
"Do you recollect the Election of Mr. Evans and
Mr. Crompton, in the Year 1818; their first Election?"
"I do not exactly recollect the Time."
"You recollect their first Election?"
"Yes."
"Whom did you promise to vote for on that Occasion?"
"Mr. Evans and Mr. Crompton."
"Did you receive any Money or Packets after that
Election?"
"I received Packets after that Election."
"How many?"
"Two."
"What did they each contain?"
"Twenty Guineas."
"The next Election, in 1820, of those Gentlemen;
whom did you promise then?"
"I promised them again."
"After that Election, did you receive any Packets?"
"Yes; I received Two."
"What did they contain?"
"They contained the same."
"Twenty Guineas each?"
"Yes."
"Do you recollect the Election of Sir William Ingilby
and General Charles Crawford?"
"Yes."
"Whom did you promise upon that Occasion?"
"Sir John Ingilby."
"Sir William Ingilby I am speaking of?"
"I do not speak of him."
"Did you vote for General Charles Crawford?"
"Yes."
"After that Election, did you receive any Packets?"
"No, none at all."
"Do you recollect when Robert Crawford Esquire and
John Jeffrey Esquire were elected?"
"Yes."
"Whom did you promise then?"
"I promised them."
"Did you receive any thing after that Election?"
"Yes; I received some."
"How much?"
"Two Twenty Guineas."
"Have the goodness to look at the Signature to that
Petition, and state whether that is your Handwriting?"
(The Petition against the Bill being shewn to the Witness.)
"That was not my Handwriting; but it was written
by my Direction, by my Son, in my House."
Cross-examined by Mr. Adam.
"How long have you been a Freeman?"
"I think it is about Four-and-thirty Years; it may be
Five-and-thirty."
"Was Sir John Ingilby's Election the first you voted
at?"
"No; not Sir John's; old Sir John's; I did not vote
for him; I was not of Age. I am a Freeman born."
"When was the first Election you remember?"
"Petrie and Sir Wharton Amcotts; that was the first
I had been in."
"Whom did you promise then?"
"Petrie and Amcotts?"
"You promised Petrie and Amcotts?"
"Yes."
"That was not in 1802?"
"I do not know; it will be Five-and-thirty Years come
the Time."
"That was in 1796, then?"
"I dare say it was."
"In 1802 you voted for Jeffrey and Crawford?"
"Yes."
"Whose Interest did they stand on?"
"They stood on the Duke's Interest."
"Who stood against them?"
"There was Sir John Ingilby stood, I think, at that
Time; I cannot recollect exactly, I do not keep such
Things in my Head."
"I wish you would recollect who stood against Jeffrey
and Crawford; you have told us some very strange
Stories about that?"
"It was Mr. Bowles's Election."
"Jeffrey and Crawford were returned, were not they?"
"Yes."
"When did you say you got the Packets then; at the
Election?"
"It was after the Election a good while."
"How long?"
"I cannot say exactly; it might be a Year."
"It might be Four Years?"
"I cannot say exactly."
"At what Time will you undertake to swear you
received Money after that Election?"
"I cannot say; I am no Scholar."
"Recollect you are upon your Oath."
"I will speak the Truth, I know."
"How long after Jeffrey and Crawford's Election will
you swear you received a Packet?"
"I cannot swear to a Month or Two."
"How long was it after that Election?"
"It might be a Year or a Year and a Half."
"It might be Two Years or Three Years?"
"I will conclude it to be between One Year and Two
Years."
"At what Time of Year was it?"
"I am sure I cannot tell."
"Whether it was Summer or Winter, you cannot tell?"
"I cannot."
"Who gave it you?"
"I cannot tell."
"How did you get it?"
"How it was I cannot tell."
"Did you receive it Night or Morning?"
"I declare I cannot say."
"Did you receive it at Home?"
"Yes, it was received at Home."
"Will you swear you recollect receiving it at Home?"
"I am no Scholar."
"You may be no Scholar, but you must speak to the
Facts you know."
"I will speak the Truth; I did not come here to tell
a Lie."
"There is no Use in that Asseveration. Will you swear
you received it in your own House?"
"I am sure I cannot exactly say; I know I recollect
one Packet at Twelve o'Clock at Night, and the other
in the Street."
"From whom did you receive that?"
"I am sure I cannot tell from what Quarter it
came."
"Jeffrey and Crawford stood on the Duke's Interest?"
"I cannot say that those were the Packets at that
Time."
"Jeffrey, Crompton and Crawford stood on the Duke's
Interest?"
"Yes, when they did stand."
"You lived in Retford?"
"Yes."
"You swear that you received one Packet at Twelve
o'Clock in the Night, the other in the Street?"
"Yes; but I will not be sure it was at that Election."
"That must have been for other Elections then?"
"I am no Scholar, therefore I cannot recollect
Things."
"Are you Scholar enough to say, whether what you
have been telling us, Crawford and Jeffrey's Election,
did or did not take place after the Election of Crawford and Jeffrey; or had you Money paid on both
Elections?"
"Mr. Petrie's, and Crawford's and Jeffrey's Election,
and this, I remember."
"On what Occasion was it those came?"
"I cannot tell."
"Do you mean their Lordships to understand that
you cannot tell that you received Money after Crawford
and Jeffrey's Election?"
"Yes; I received Money, but I cannot say the
Time."
"Will you swear you received it after Jeffrey and
Crawford's?"
"Yes; but that was some Time back."
"Will you swear that you received that on account of
Jeffrey and Crawford?"
"That I cannot; I do not know who gave it to me,
nor how it came."
"Nor why it came?"
"No; nor why it came."
"Do you swear that you received a Packet in the
Street, and another in the House?"
"Yes."
"From whom did you receive that in the Street?"
"I did not know the Person."
"Nor how you received that in the House?"
"No; nor I do not know how I received that in the
House."
"How did that come there?"
"It was thrown into the House."
"Why did not you tell me all this before; why did
not you tell my Friend all this? I understood you to
say you voted for both Jeffrey and Crawford, who
stood on the same Interest. Did not you say you
received one Packet in the Night-time, and the other in
the Street?"
"Yes."
"Did you know The Duke of Newcastle's Steward at
that Time; Bettison?"
"I had not spoken any thing to Mr. Bettison."
"Did you know him at the Time?"
"I have seen him."
"Did you receive it from him?"
"No."
"Did you receive it from any body belonging to
him?"
"Not as I know of; I do not know."
"Will you undertake to swear, upon your Oath, that
you received Money after the Election of Robert
Crawford and Jeffrey?-and now mind."
"Yes."
"At Ingilby's Election you received no Packet?"
"No."
"How did you receive that, after the Election of
1820?"
"It was sent to me, I know not how - who gave it
to me. It was after the Election. I do not know the
Person."
"Had you promised Crompton and Evans yourself?"
"Yes."
"Did they make any Promise to you?"
"No, none; nor no Gentleman whatever that ever I
promised ever promised me any thing at all."
"Were not you very much surprised at receiving a
Packet after Crawford and Jeffrey's Election?"
"Surprised! - I cannot say, indeed; I received it,
but I did not know from whom."
"What did you receive after Crawford and Jeffrey's
Election?"
"I have told you that I received Two Packets, but
whether it was Crompton's or Jeffrey's Election, or
whether the other, I cannot swear which; or whether
it was Mr. Evans's, one of them, I cannot say; but I
know I received Two, but at which Elections I cannot
swear."
Re-examined by Mr. Law.
"You recollect Two Elections of Mr. Evans and
Mr. Crompton?"
"Yes."
"Did you receive after each of those?"
"Yes."
(Mr. Adam.) "Whom did you vote for in 1826; the
last Election?"
"For Sir Henry Wright Wilson."
"Did you promise him?"
"Yes."
"Did he canvass you?"
"Yes."
"Did he promise you any thing?"
"No."
"Had you ever promised to vote for Dundas and
Wrightson?"
"Did I ever promise them? Yes; I promised
Dundas."
"Did you not promise Wrightson too?"
"No."
"How came you not to vote for Dundas then?"
"I voted against him, because I recollected he was for
the Roman Bill."
"Did you expect to get any thing by voting for him?"
"No."
"Why did you vote for Wilson?"
"Because I liked his Principles."
(Mr. Law.) "Sir Henry Wright Wilson was unsuccessful, and he has sent you nothing?"
"He has sent me nothing."
"You say that you received after the Elections of 1818
and 1820?"
"Yes."
"My Learned Friend has asked you about the Elections
of Robert Crawford Esquire, and John Jeffrey Esquire;
after their Elections, did you receive any Packets?"
"I received Packets; I received Forty Guineas."
"After their Election?"
"Yes."
"In addition to other Elections you have mentioned?"
"Yes."
(By a Lord.) "You have mentioned that your Son
wrote your Name to the Petition; is he a Freeman?"
"I have one that is a Freeman, and one that is no
Freeman."
"Which of them wrote this?"
"Him that is a little Boy I have."
"How long has the one who is a Freeman been a
Freeman?"
"I am sure I cannot exactly say; he has taken up his
Freedom, but he has never voted at all."
The Witness was directed to withdraw.
Then Richard Moore was called in; and having been
sworn, was examined as follows:
(Mr. Price.) "Is your Name Richard Moore?"
"Yes."
"Are you a Freeman of Retford?"
"Yes."
"How long have you been a Freeman?"
"I do not know."
"About how long?"
"I cannot tell whether it was Eight, Nine or Ten
Years."
"Was it more than that?"
"Rather more; I cannot tell; it was Ten altogether."
"Do you remember the first Election, when Mr. Crompton and Mr. Evans were Candidates?"
"I remember the first Election."
"Do you remember the first Time that Mr. Evans and
Mr. Crompton were Candidates?"
"Yes."
"Were you a Freeman at that Time?"
"Yes."
"Did you promise those Gentlemen?"
"Yes."
"After that Election, did you receive any thing?"
"Yes."
"What did you receive?"
"A Packet."
"How many; One or Two?"
"One."
"What did it contain?"
"I do not know."
"Who delivered it to you?"
"My Wife shewed it to me."
"Was it open?"
"No."
"Who opened it?"
"My Wife."
"Was it in your Presence?"
"Yes."
"What was inside the Letter?"
"I do not know."
"Was any thing inside?"
"Yes."
"What was it?"
"I do not know."
"Was there any Money, upon your Oath?"
"There was no Money, but Bills."
"What kind of Bills were they?"
"Pound Bills."
"What was the Amount of those Pound Bills?"
"One Pound."
"How many of them were there?"
"I do not know."
"Were there more than One?"
"Yes."
"What was the Amount of the whole?"
"I do not know."
"About how many?"
"I do not know how many; I never counted them."
"What became of them?"
"My Wife got them, and put them to the rest of her
Money."
"Did you see them taken out?"
"No."
"Do you mean to say that upon your Oath?"
"I did not see them taken out."
"Did she open them in your Presence?"
"No."
"Neither did she tell you what they were-what was
the Amount?"
"No; she did not tell me the Amount."
"Did you promise Mr. Evans and Mr. Crompton before
the Election of 1820, when they stood the second Time?"
"I promised them before the Election."
"Did you before the last Election, when they stood
the second Time?"
"The second Time, I promised them."
"After that Election, did you receive any Packets?"
"No, I do not recollect."
"Refresh your Memory. After the Election of 1820,
did you receive any Packets?"
"There was one thrown into my House, I think, in
the Night."
"What did that Packet contain?"
"I do not know."
"Did you open it?"
"I did not."
"What became of it?"
"My Sister got it."
"Did she deliver it to you?"
"No."
"Did you see it at any Time?"
"She shewed it to me in a little Time afterwards."
"What was in it?"
"I do not know; I did not open it myself."
"Was it opened in your Presence?"
"She opened it in my Presence."
"What did it contain?"
"It contained Bills."
"Do you mean Bank Bills?"
"Bank Bills."
"How many?"
"I do not know how many."
"What was the Amount of the whole?"
"There was Three or Four, or Five or Six; I do not
recollect seeing any more."
"Were they Pound Bills, or more?"
"They was Pound Bills."
"What do you mean by Pound Bills?"
"Pound Bills in Paper."
"Do you mean by Pound Bills, Twenty-shilling Bills,
or Bills of larger Amount?"
"Twenty-shilling Bills."
"Were there any beside Twenty-shilling Bills?"
"Not as I recollect."
"Whom did you vote for at the last Election?"
"Sir Robert Dundas."
"Any one else?"
"Mr. Wrightson."
The Petition against the Bill was shewn to the Witness;
and he was asked-
"Is that your Handwriting?"
"Yes, I believe it is. I signed my Name to a Petition."
by Mr.Alderson.
"Will you swear it is your Handwriting?"
"I believe it is."
"Look at it again, and say whether it is your Name
and Handwriting?"
"Yes, I believe it is mine."
"On what Occasion did you sign it?"
"I do not know."
"Who shewed it you?"
"I do not know; I do not recollect who it was."
"At what Time was it, can you tell?"
"I do not know whether it was Morning, Noon, or
Night."
"Was it a Month ago, or Six Weeks, or Two
Months?"
"I do not know whether it might be a Month or Two
Months."
"After that, they sent for you here, did they?"
"Yes."
"You are sure of that?"
"Yes."
"When was it; when were you sent for to come here
to illuminate us?"
"Last Thursday."
"Did you come up with the last Witness, Denman?"
"I came up and got here on Friday."
"Have you been examined by any body since you
have been here?"
"No one."
"You have told the same clear Story to every body?"
"The same Story."
"Is your Wife alive?"
"Yes."
"And your Sister?"
"My Sister is dead."
"But your Wife is alive?"
"My Wife is alive."
"Does she live at Retford?"
"She lives at Retford."
"What is her Name?"
"Elizabeth Moore."
"You did not see either of those Packets yourself, I
collect?"
"I did not see myself."
"I did not suppose you were the Packet; but did you
see the Packet when it came?"
"I saw the Packet the next Day or Two after."
"Your Wife gave you something?"
"My Wife shewed it to me."
"She kept Part of it herself, according to your
Statement?"
"I told her to put it by among her rest."
"The second Time, it was your Sister, was it?"
"The second Time, it was my Sister."
"You know no more about it than what they told
you?"
"I know no more than what they told me."
"The last Time you say you voted for Wrightson and
Dundas?"
"Yes."
"Had you any Promise, the last Time, of any thing
for your Vote?"
"No."
"Had you any thing sent?"
"No."
"Had you any Promise beforehand from Evans and
Crompton?"
"I never had no Promise from no Gentleman."
"Who canvassed you for Evans and Crompton?"
"Mr. Evans and Mr. Crompton."
"Both themselves?"
"No; separate."
"Did each of them canvass you by themselves, or by
somebody else?"
"They canvassed me themselves."
"What passed with you about your voting at that
Time?"
"Well, they axed me for my Vote, and I promised
them."
"Was that all they said, "Will you give me your
Vote?" and you said you would?"
"I promised them I would vote for them, and that
was all that passed."
"Was it the same the second Time?"
"Yes."
"And the same the third Time, for Dundas and
Wrightson?"
"Yes, and the same the third Time."
Examined by the Lords.
"What Occupation do you follow?"
"I am a Shoemaker by Trade."
"Do you reside in Retford?"
"Yes."
"You say you came up last Friday?"
"Yes, I came up last Friday; I was here on Friday."
"Where do you live in London; where are you
residing?"
"At John Denman's."
"Have you seen any of the Retford Voters since you
came here?"
"There are Seven of us there."
"How came you to go there?"
"The Man was there when we came off the Coach,
and axed us if we wanted Lodgings."
"When you came up to London you found a Man
ready waiting to ask you whether you wanted
Lodgings?"
"He was there when we got off the Coach."
"Did he ask all the Passengers?"
"He axed several as got off."
"Was the Coach entirely filled with Retford Voters?"
"No; there was only Four of us; Four or Five, I am
not certain which."
"You all went to this House of his?"
"We all went to his House but One Man."
"Do you know who this Man was who invited you
to go to his House?"
"John Denman axed us if we would go down there to
his House."
"Was it John Denman himself?"
"Yes."
"To his own House?"
"Yes."
"He is a Freeman?"
"Yes."
"Have you seen any Attorney since you have been
there?"
"Not as I recollect of."
"Have you seen any body who is not a Freeman
of Retford who came to speak to you upon the
Business?"
"There was a Man came to give me a Paper to attend
this Place."
"Since you have been there?"
"Yes."
"Have you had any Talk with any body about this
Business?"
"No."
"Had you no Talk amongst yourselves about it?"
"I never had no Talk with no one."
"Have you had no Conversation with any Witness
who has been examined?"
"No."
"How many are there of you in this House; Seven
or Eight?"
"Seven of us."
"Have you paid your Bill, or not?"
"No."
"Do you mean to pay for it?"
"Yes, I expect to pay it."
"You expect to have to pay for your Living?"
"Yes."
"Have you had any thing said to you about having
your Expences paid, so much a Day, if you went up?"
"There was a Talk that we should have Half a
Guinea a Day for our Expences."
"Who was the Talk among?"
"Talking among the Freemen, that that Man had got
paid that went away last, Thomas Battye."
"What is Thomas Battye?"
"A Plumber and Glazier; he went away on Sunday."
"That he had got Half a Guinea a Day?"
"Yes; Half a Guinea a Day."
"Ever since he has been in London?"
"From the Time they came to going back."
"Do you expect to get your Half Guinea a Day
too?"
"I do not know."
"Have any of you had any Clothes given to you?"
"I had none given to me."
"Will you swear you do not know that some Freemen
have been dressed, and had Clothes given them, to
appear here before their Lordships?"
"I do not know any thing about it."
"Do you mean to say you never heard of that?"
"I never heard of that."
"You know that you have not?"
"I have not myself, nor I do not know of any one
that has."
"Did you ever make any Promise of your Vote for
Money at any Time?"
"At no Time."
"Never?"
"No, never."
"Were you ever asked to give your Vote for
Money?"
"No, never."
The Witness was directed to withdraw.
Then Robert Pashley was called in; and having been
sworn, was examined as follows:
(Mr. Law.) "Is your Name Robert Pashley?"
"Yes."
"Are you a Burgess of Retford?"
"Yes."
"When were you admitted; when did you become a
Burgess?"
"Twelve or Thirteen Years ago."
"Was it in 1817?"
"I cannot recollect exactly."
"Was the first Election, after you became a Burgess,
that of Mr. Crompton and Mr. Evans?"
"Yes."
"Whom did you promise your Vote to upon that
Election?"
"Mr. Crompton and Mr. Evans."
"Did you receive any Packets after that Election?"
"There was a Packet left at my Father's House."
"One or Two?"
"Two."
"What did they contain?"
"Twenty Guineas each."
"What did you do with the Money?"
"My Father got it."
"Did you give it to him?"
"Yes; he had it."
"Do you remember the Election of 1820; the next
Election of Mr. Evans and Mr. Crompton?"
"Yes."
"Whom did you promise your Vote to upon that
Occasion?"
"Mr. Crompton and Mr. Evans."
"Did you receive any Packets after that Election?"
"There were Two left at my Father's."
"What did they contain?"
"Twenty Guineas each."
"Whom did you vote for at the last Election?"
"Dundas and Wrightson."
"Where were you living at the Time of those Two
Elections; at Retford?"
"Yes."
"In your Father's House?"
"Yes."
Cross-examined by Mr. Adam.
"How do you know your Father got it; you did not
see him receive it, did you?"
"No, I did not."
"Did your Father tell you he had it then?"
"He said there was some Packets left for me in the
House."
"When did he tell you that?"
"I think the next Day."
"Did you see the Packets at the Time?"
"The next Day I saw them."
"Did you see the Packets at the Time your Father
told you so?"
"Yes, I saw them."
"At the same Time?"
"Yes."
"What Time in the Day was it you saw them?"
"In the Morning."
"When you got up?"
"Yes."
"Where did you see them?"
"In my Father's House."
"In what Part of your Father's House?"
"I saw them on the Table."
"In what Part?"
"In the House."
"Who was in the Room when you saw them?"
"My Father and myself."
"Was it then your Father spoke to you about it?"
"Yes."
"Which Time are you talking of?"
"I am talking of the last Time."
"That was in 1820?"
"Yes."
"At what Time in the Year was it that this happened?"
"I am sure I cannot say."
"Do not you know whether it was Summer or
Winter?"
"I cannot say."
"How many Years after the Election?"
"It was a Year and a Half, I should think."
"Why do you think it was a Year and a Half?"
"It was somewhere about a Year and a Half."
"It might be Two Years and a Half. Why do you say
it was somewhere about a Year and a Half; what
Reason have you for fixing on that Time rather than
any other?"
"A Year and a Half to Two Years; I cannot say
nearer than that."
"Was it a Year and a Half, or Two Years?"
"I am sure I cannot exactly say."
"Was it in the Winter or the Summer?"
"I am sure I cannot recollect."
"How do you know it was not Three Years?"
"I am sure I think it was not."
"How do you know it was not, if you have no Circumstance to fix it in your Recollection?"
"I should think about a Year and a Half, as far as I
can recollect."
"What Circumstance is there that fixes your Recollection to a Year and a Half rather than Two Years or
One Year, which it might be?"
"I cannot recollect."
"If you cannot recollect, why do you choose to say a
Year and a Half; when was the Election - at what
Time in the Year?"
"I am sure I cannot tell you."
"If you can neither tell the Time of the Year of the
Election, nor the Time of the Year you received this
Packet, how can you tell me it was a Year and a
Half?"
"To the best of my Recollection it was a Year and a
Half or Two Years."
"Whether it was Summer or Winter you cannot tell?"
"No."
"What was your Father doing when he gave you this
Packet?"
"He told me there was a Packet lying on the Table."
"What fixes this in your Memory?"
"I cannot exactly say what he was doing."
"In 1818, when did you see this Packet?"
"I had been out of Town, and he told me they were
come, either the next Day or the Day after."
"Either the next Day or the Day after?"
"After it came to my Father's House."
"How can you tell it came to your Father's House?"
"He told me so."
"Had he the Packet at the Time he told you so?"
"I cannot say whether he had the Packet in his Hand,
or whether it was on the Table."
"Are you sure it was either the one or the other?"
"Yes."
"How long was that after the Election?"
"It was Fifteen Months or Eighteen Months, or somewhere thereabout, after the Election."
"At what Time of the Year was it; why do you say
Fifteen or Eighteen Months?"
"It was somewhere about that Time."
"Why do you fix Eighteen Months in both those
Cases; I will bring it to your Memory?"
"I cannot recollect any further, any nearer."
"What are you?"
"A Plumber and Glazier."
"Do you carry on Business for yourself?"
"Yes."
"How long have you been a Freeman?"
"Twelve or Thirteen Years."
"Was your Father a Freeman too?"
"No."
"How did you get your Freedom then?"
"By Servitude."
"Is your Father a Plumber and Glazier?"
"No."
"What was he?"
"He was a Coal Merchant."
"Were you a Plumber and Glazier at the Time those
Packets came?"
"Yes."
"Were you a Journeyman to any Individual?"
"Yes."
"To whom were you a Journeyman?"
"To Mr. Dawber."
"Was Mr. Dawber a Freeman?"
"Yes."
"In 1818, who canvassed you?"
"Mr. Evans and Mr. Crompton."
"Did they canvass you both together?"
"No, not both together."
"Did you promise them both?"
"Yes."
"Did either of them promise you any thing?"
"Not any thing."
"Who canvassed you in 1820 for them?"
"Mr. Evans and Mr. Crompton."
"Each for himself?"
"Yes."
"Was that a joint or a separate Canvass?"
"A separate one."
"Did they make you any Promise at that Time?"
"Not at any Time at all."
"Was any thing said, except their asking you for your
Vote, and your promising to give it?"
"Not any thing."
"In 1826, they canvassed you for Dundas and
Wrightson?"
"Dundas and Wrightson."
"Did they come together?"
"They did not."
"Did you promise them?"
"Yes, I did."
"Did they make you any Promise?"
"Not any at all."
"Have you received any Money since?"
"Not any."
"Have you lived in Retford up to this Time?"
"No; I live in Retford now."
"Have you lived in Retford 'till you came up here?"
"Yes."
"When did you come up here?"
"Last Friday."
"Did you see Mr. Roberts lately, before you came; do
you know a Person of that Name?"
"Yes."
"Where did you see him?"
"I saw him at his Shop."
"What Business does he carry on?"
"A Draper."
"Do you know whom he voted for at the last
Election?"
"He is not a Freeman."
"Whose Interest did he support at the last Election?"
"I am sure I do not know."
"Do you know a Place called the Turk's Head?"
"Yes."
"Is there any Club there?"
"There is an Odd Fellows Club there."
"Is there a Birmingham Club there?"
"No."
"Do not you go much to the Turk's Head?"
"Very little."
"Can you take upon yourself to say there is not a
Birmingham Club held there?"
"I cannot tell."
"Do you know Mr. Sharp?"
"Yes."
"Had you any Talk about your coming up here with
him?"
"No."
"Did you see him at the Time of the Election in
1826?"
"I have seen him in the Street several Times."
"Did you have any Talk with him at that Time?"
"No."
"Which Day did you vote at the Election?"
"I am sure I cannot tell."
"Was it the first or the second Day?"
"The first Day."
"Was it before or after the Riots?"
"It was before the Riots."
"Did you see Mr. Sharp about that Time?"
"No."
"You know nothing of this Club at the Turk's Head?"
"I cannot recollect any thing about it; I know nothing
about it."
"Did you ever hear any thing about "All right" in
Retford?"
"No; I never heard such a Word."
"Or about "Tip?"
"No."
"Or "Tick?"
"No."
"Or "Joss?"
"No."
"Do you think those Words could ever have been
very common at the Election Time in Retford without
your having heard them?"
"I cannot say to that."
"Suppose any body has said that at Retford "All is
right" was used in a particular Sense, and that
"Joss" was understood in a particular Sense, should
you believe him?"
"I cannot say; I do not know any thing about it."
"You have been at Three Elections yourself?"
"Yes."
"And promised for each of them?"
"Yes."
"And you say that at Two of them you got Money?"
"Yes."
"And yet you never heard of "All is right," or
"Joss," or "Tick," or "Tip," or any of those fine
Things?"
"No."
Re-examined by Mr. Law.
"Who was with Sir Robert Dundas when he canvassed
you for your Vote; do you know Mr. Foljambe?"
"Yes."
"Was he with him?"
"I think he was."
"Did you know Colonel Kirke?"
"Yes."
"Was he with him?"
"I cannot say."
"Who was with Mr. Wrightson when he canvassed
you?"
"I am sure I cannot tell."
"Did you see Foljambe or Kirke?"
"I am sure I cannot recollect whether they were with
him or not."
The Witness was directed to withdraw.
Then Thomas Burton was called in; and having been
sworn, was examined as follows:
(Mr. Price.) "Is your Name Thomas Burton?"
"Yes."
"You are a Freeman of Retford?"
"Yes."
"How long have you been a Freeman?"
"Since 1820."
"Do you remember the Election of 1820?"
"Yes."
"Were you a Freeman at that Time?"
"Yes."
"To whom did you promise your Vote?"
"To Mr. Crompton Esquire and Mr. Evans?"
"After the Election, did you receive any thing; any
Packet?"
"There was a Packet in the Form of a Letter was
conveyed to me."
"When did you see it?"
"I see'd it in my own Hands."
"Did you open it?"
"I opened it after a little while."
"What did you find in it?"
"I found in it the Sum of £21."
"Did you receive One or more Packets after that
Election?"
"I received Two Packets; One more after the same
Election."
"What did that contain?"
"To the same Effect."
"Do you mean to say there was £21 in it?"
"Yes; £21 in each Packet."
"For whom did you vote in the Year 1826, at the last
Election?"
"Sir Robert Dundas and Mr. William Battie Wrightson
Esquire."
The Petition against the Bill was shewn to the Witness,
and he was asked-
"Is that your Name and Handwriting?"
"Yes, it is."
Cross-examined by Mr. Alderson.
"Do you know what is contained in that Parchment?"
"I do not know exactly; but I was told it was a
Petition to be heard by Counsel."
"When did you sign it?"
"I signed it in my own House; the Time I cannot
mention."
"Before you came here, I suppose?"
"Yes, to a Certainty."
"When did you come?"
"I came on Thursday last."
"Did you come with the last Two or Three Witnesses
who have been examined?"
"Yes."
"Had you any body waiting for you at the Coach when
you arrived?"
"Not waiting for me particularly."
"Waiting for you generally?"
"No."
"Whom was he waiting for? there was somebody
waiting, I see by your Manner."
"I cannot tell that."
"Did any Person come to you when you arrived?"
"There was a Person came to me, to ask me where
I was going to stop at."
"Did he recommend, you to a Lodging?"
"He said, if I would go to his House he would make
me comfortable."
"Whom did he turn out to be?"
"John Denman."
"Did he afterwards introduce you to another Friend,
Mr. Heptinstall?"
"Yes."
"Was Mr. Heptinstall there, as well as Mr. Denman,
to welcome you to Town?"
"He conducted me to Mr. Heptinstall, to the Office."
"What did Mr. Heptinstall say to you upon your
Arrival; did he receive you at the Office?"
"Yes."
"All of you together, or One at a Time?"
"There were not Two of us in together, I think; but
I cannot recollect."
"Did you go in one after another to be examined?"
"We could not go in altogether; we went in One
at Once."
"Why should you not go in altogether?"
"We could not go in bursting in like a Crowd; we
could not go in all together."
"Did Mr. Heptinstall take down what you had to say
in Writing?"
"I told him to take down my Name, for the Purpose
I was come to this House for."
"What was that Purpose?"
"It was to come to be examined before my Noble
Lords."
"Upon what Subject?"
"Upon the Electioneering Purpose, I expect it is."
"Is it an Electioneering Purpose to turn this into a
Hundred; is it?"
"The Bill, I suppose, is to extend it to the Hundred."
"You consider that an Electioneering Purpose?"
"Yes; that is all I can say about it."
"Who gave you this Letter of 1820, you have
spoken of?"
"I do not know; it was a Stranger to me."
"Were both Strangers?"
"Yes; both Strangers to me."
"Do you know Westby Leadbeater?"
"I did know him; he was the Crier."
"It was not he then?"
"Oh no! he was dead before that Time, I think; but
I will not be certain, on my Oath."
"You are sure it was none of the Retford People that
gave it you?"
"I am sure it was none of the Retford People that
gave it me; indeed I cannot say who it was."
"You say that Mr. Evans and Mr. Crompton canvassed
you?"
"They did."
"What passed between you and Mr. Crompton when
he canvassed you?"
"They axed me if I would give them the Promise to
serve them in the Election; and I told them I would."
"Was that all that passed?"
"Yes."
"Was there any thing said about Money at that
Time?"
"Not a Word."
"Was that all that passed between Mr. Crompton and
you?"
"It was."
"What passed between you and Mr. Evans?"
"After the same System, he axed me whether I would
be so kind as to promise him my Vote, and I told
him I would."
"Did he say that it should be all right?"
"No, not a Word."
"Nor did he promise to joss you or tick you?"
"No, nothing of the kind."
"Have you heard any thing of that Expression being
used?"
"No."
"When did you hear of that Expression being used?"
"I have never heard a Word of it 'till you axed me
that Question."
"You said you voted for Dundas and Wrightson at
the last Election?"
"Yes."
"Who canvassed you for Dundas?"
"Himself."
"Was any body with him?"
"There were some Gentlemen with him."
"Who were they?"
"I cannot recollect who they was."
"Do you know any of them?"
"I do not."
"Are you acquainted with Mr. Foljambe?"
"Not exactly, but I know him."
"Are you acquainted with Colonel Kirke?"
"I knew Colonel Kirke."
"You did not know any Gentleman who canvassed
with him?"
"I cannot recollect who they were."
"Can you tell who canvassed you with Mr. Wrightson?"
"No, I cannot."
"Were Colonel Kirke and Mr. Foljambe with him?"
"I cannot say, indeed."
"Tell us what passed between you and Mr. Wrightson
when he canvassed you?"
"He axed me for my Vote, and I promised him I
would give it him."
"Was any thing said about its being as usual?"
"No, not a Word."
"You have received nothing?"
"No."
"Was there any thing of the kind said by Mr. Wrightson?"
"No."
"What are you by Trade?"
"A Baker."
"Do you live in Retford?"
"Yes."
"Did you vote?"
"Yes, I did, at the last Election."
"On what Day did you vote; the first or the second
Day's Poll?"
"The first Day's Poll."
"You say you were there the first Day of the Election?"
"Yes."
"Was there any Difficulty in polling the first Day,
before the rioting commenced?"
"There was; but the Constables kept Peace and
Quietness as well as they could."
"Before the Bailiff was knocked down with a Stone,
was there any Difficulty?"
"There was many Threats; there was People standing
with Pickaxes and Shovels; and they said they would
pull down the Hall Steps, and threatened us very hard
as we went in."
"Why did they threaten you?"
"Because they supported, as I fancied, Two public
Men that came into the House of Parliament."
"What where they for?"
"It was in the Town rumoured that they would vote
for the Emancipation Bill."
"Did you mean that the independent Members would
vote for the Emancipation Bill?"
"Yes; I call them independent Members."
"Did not they like them?"
"No; they fancied they would vote for the Bill."
"Sir Henry Wright Wilson was against it, I suppose?"
"Yes, he was against it; he pledged his Word and
Honour that he would vote against it."
"In consequence of that, a Noise was made?"
"In consequence of that, the Noise and Disturbance
began."
"And you were threatened, before you went in, with
a Pickaxe?"
"Yes; we were scared in going up to the Hall;
threatened in going up."
"Who scared you?"
"The Crowd all round us; but the Constables kept
them off."
"Was it a very quiet Election, as some People have
told us?"
"No; it was not very quiet, when they almost killed
Sir Robert Dundas, knocked and kicked him about, and
were breaking the Bank Windows; they were not very
quiet then."
"How long did the Tumult last?"
"Why, I cannot exactly tell; the Soldiers were brought
in after the Tumult."
"Who sent for the Soldiers into the Town?"
"That I do not know."
"Did the Soldiers come in for the independent
Members, as you call them, or the other Side?"
"They were sent for to keep Quietness in the Town."
"Do you know any thing of the Birmingham Club?"
"I know nothing but Hearsay; I have no Knowledge
but by Hearsay."
"Did you hear it from any Freeman?"
"I heard there was a Committee formed to take the
Franchise away from them."
"Do you know whether Mr. Hannam belonged to it?"
"He was the Solicitor, we were told, for that Purpose."
"Was Newton the Secretary?"
"I do not know, indeed."
"Was Sharp one of the Members?"
"I understood he was a Member of it; I believe he
was."
"Who is Newton?"
"I do not know."
"You do not know that he was a Clerk of Hannam's?"
"Yes; he was his Clerk, we understood."
"Sharp is a Timber Merchant?"
"Yes."
"He is a Man of considerable Property in the Town,
is he not?"
"Yes."
"He could have a Vote?"
"No; he rents the Place."
"Has he no Property in the Place?"
"Not that I know."
Examined by the Lords.
"How long have you been in Town?"
"I came on Friday."
"Where do you live in Town?"
"At John Denman's."
"You live at his Menagerie; John Denman's?"
"Yes."
"Are you fed there too?"
"Yes."
"And clothed?"
"I do not understand you."
"You are fed there?"
"We board and lodge there."
"Had you any Clothes given you?"
"Oh no; what I have I brought with me from my
own Home."
"Have you any Clothes there for the Witnesses to
wear to go to the House?"
"No; what I have I brought with me."
"Are you sure there is no Coat and Waistcoat, and
something else, hanging up in the Hall, for Witnesses to
go to the House in?"
"I never saw any thing of the kind."
"You are sure of that?"
"I am sure of that."
"What do you expect to get a Day for coming here?"
"Indeed I cannot tell."
"Have you never heard any thing said by the Witnesses what they had got?"
"No; I have never heard any thing, except from
Mr. Heptinstall. He told me that we must not expect
to have more than 10s. 6d. a Day for our Expences.
I told him it was very hard, for my Mistress was
obliged to get a Journeyman to do the Business, and I
was a Baker."
"You told Mr. Heptinstall this?"
"Yes."
"What does your Mistress pay the Journeyman?"
"That I cannot tell, for she would have one to get
after I left Home."
"Had you left Directions with your Mistress to get
another Workman?"
"Oh no; but she probably had to look out."
"Your Notion is, that she would be obliged to get a
Journeyman?"
"Yes."
"What are the general Wages of Journeymen in
Retford?"
"I do not know; I never had to get one."
"Did you never hear your Mistress say what one
would cost?"
"No."
"You told Mr. Heptinstall that ought to be made
good?"
"Oh no; but I told him I thought it was very small."
"What did Mr. Heptinstall say?"
"He said he believed it was agreed on, that that was
to be the Pay for the Expences."
"When did you see Mr. Heptinstall?"
"On Saturday Morning, at his Office."
"You went to his Office?"
"Yes; to take him in my Name, that I was come."
"Did any body at Retford tell you to go to Mr. Heptinstall?"
"No; Mr. Butt served the Subpæna on me to attend;
he told me to go there."
"The Officer of the House?"
"Yes."
"He told you to go to Mr. Heptinstall?"
"Yes."
"And he gave you his Direction?"
"Yes."
"When you got into the Office, what happened?"
"Nothing happened, as I recollect, except that I have
said about this Statement as to the Expences."
"Nothing happened about the Nature of your
Evidence of To-day?"
"No."
"Only about so much a Day?"
"Yes; he desired me to mention it to the rest that
came up for this Purpose, what the Allowance was to
be."
"Had you any Talk about the Packets, and those sort
of Things; any thing about Money?"
"No, not a Word."
"Nothing but about the Payment of Expences?"
"Nothing but the Payment of the Expences while we
are here."
"Have you ever mentioned to any body in Retford the
sort of Evidence you could give?"
"No, not a Word; I could not tell what would be put
to me 'till I came here."
"You know Hannam?"
"Yes."
"What is he?"
"An Attorney."
"Is he in great Business?"
"That I cannot say; I do not understand his
Business."
"Do many Persons go to consult him about Law?"
"I cannot say that; indeed I do not know."
"Does he hold any Office in the Corporation of
Retford?"
"No."
"Were you present at the last Election in 1826?"
"Yes, I was."
"Were you in the Town Hall at the Time?"
"Yes."
"Was not the High Bailiff very ill treated?"
"I was informed so; I did not see it."
"Who was it that was spit upon?"
"I do not know that."
"Did you never hear it?"
"I did not."
"Did you see what was done to the High Bailiff?"
"Yes; I believe they were pelting with Stones; and
that they knocked him on the Back of the Head, and
had like to have knocked him off his Horse; but there
was a Guard on each Side of him at the Time."
"He came in with a Guard?"
"It was while he was going up to read the Riot Act;
there was a Guard on each Side of him, as I was
informed."
"You voted for Dundas and Wrightson, did you not?"
"Yes, I did."
"Did Sir Henry Wright Wilson canvass you?"
"Yes."
"Did he offer to give you any Money?"
"No. I told him indeed there was many more
together; that I had pledged my Word to those Gentlemen, and did not choose to go back from it; and
he said, "Damn your Vote; I do not want your Vote;
I want your Principle."
"Did he state his Principles?"
"No."
"Did you ask him what those Principles were?"
"No; it was not my Duty, not to a Gentleman."
"Did you hear him declare his Principles from the
Broad Stone?"
"At the Broad Stone he did declare his Principles, as
I understood; but I did not hear them."
"Did the Mob pelt him?"
"No; they were on his Part, because he declared
against the Emancipation Bill, and so the Inhabitants
sided with him."
"But not the Voters?"
"Part of the Voters."
"Not the Majority?"
"No."
"He was not elected, was he?"
"No."
"How many voted for him?"
"To the best of my Recollection, Fifty-three."
"Were those all Men staunch to their Principles?"
"Indeed I do not know; I cannot tell their Minds."
"He did not damn their Votes, did he?"
"No, I should think he would not, as it was at their
Request he came."
"There were Fifty-three voted for him?"
"Yes."
"Was not it well known before the Fifty-three went
up to vote, that they had no Chance of carrying it their
Way; that the Majority was against them?"
"It was known that the Majority was against him."
"How many voted for Dundas and Wrightson?"
"I think 119 for Wrightson, 121 or 122 for Sir Robert
Dundas."
"Was not the Result of the Canvass well known some
Months before the Election?"
"The Canvass was known."
"Was not it known among the Voters, that Dundas
and Wrightson had 119, and Sir Henry Wright Wilson
would only have 50?"
"I cannot recollect what passed."
"Was there any Doubt whether they would come in
or not?"
"Oh, we felt no Doubt we should come in at the
Election."
"And they despaired a great deal, did not they; they
were not in much Spirits when they went up to poll?
The Question does not refer to Brandy."
"They went in in that blackguard sort of Way; I was
threatened with having my Tiles pulled off my House
because I would not go from my Promise; my own
Father, who has been here, threatened to pull the Tiles
off my House if I would not turn; but I stuck to my
Word; I pledged my Word, and that I would stand
to it."
"You pledged your Word, without reference to
Money?"
"No Money was ever mentioned to me since I have
been a Freeman."
"Have you had any Money since the Election of
1826?"
"No, not a Farthing."
The Witness was directed to withdraw.
The Counsel were directed to withdraw.
Ordered, That the further Consideration and Second
Reading of the said Bill be put off 'till To-morrow; and
that the Lords be summoned.
Witnesses discharged from further Attendance on it.
Ordered, That Samuel Francis Flower, Thomas Hudson,
Robert Johnson, John Denman, Thomas Willey, George
Whitlam, John Burton, Richard Moore, Robert Pashley
and Thomas Burton, be discharged from further Attendance on this House on the last-mentioned Bill.
Crommelin Harbour Bill.
It was moved, "That the Order made on Friday the
21st of this instant May, "That the Bill, intituled, "An
Act for establishing and maintaining the Harbour of
Port Crommelin, in the Bay of Cushenden, in the County
of Antrim," be read a Second Time on Friday next,"
be now read."
The same was accordingly read by the Clerk.
Ordered, That the said Order be discharged.
Ordered, That the said Bill be read a Second Time on
Friday the 4th of June next.
Ld. Cremorne's Estate Bill.
The Earl of Shaftesbury reported from the Lords Committees, to whom the Bill, intituled, "An Act to enable
the Guardian of The Right Honorable Richard Lord
Cremorne, an Infant, to carry into Effect a Contract
entered into for the Purchase of Rockcorry Castle and
adjoining Lands, in the County of Monaghan, in
Ireland," was committed; "That they had considered
the said Bill, and examined the Allegations thereof,
which were found to be true; that the Parties concerned
had given their Consents to the Satisfaction of the
Committee; and that the Committee had gone through
the Bill, and made several Amendments thereto."
Which Amendments, being read Twice by the Clerk,
were agreed to by the House.
Ordered, That the said Bill, with the Amendments, be
ingrossed.
Register of Chancery Bill presented.
The Lord Chancellor presented to the House a Bill,
intituled, "An Act to regulate the Office of Register
and Keeper of the Register and Registers of the High
Court of Chancery."
The said Bill was read the First Time.
Ordered, That the said Bill be printed.
Masters in Chancery Bill presented.
The Lord Chancellor presented to the House a Bill,
intituled, "An Act to regulate the Salaries and Emoluments of the Masters in Ordinary of the High Court
of Chancery, and the Clerks employed in the Offices of
the said Masters."
The said Bill was read the First Time.
Ordered, That the said Bill be printed.
Adjourn.
Dominus Cancellarius declaravit præsens Parliamentum
continuandum esse usque ad et in diem Martis, vicesimum
quintum diem instantis Maii, horâ decimâ Auroræ, Dominis
sic decernentibus.