Die Jovis, 24 Feb. 1641.
Answer from the King- Irish Affairs.
SIR Wm. Penyman reports that his Majesty told
them, That he was very glad to receive the Propositions from them concerning Ireland; and that he had
seen them Two Days before in Print.
HIS Majesty, being very glad to receive any Proposition that may repair the Calamity of His distressed
Kingdom of Ireland, especially when it may be without
Burthen or Imposition, and for the Ease of his good Subjects of this Kingdom, hath graciously considered the
Overture made by both Houses of Parliament to that
Purpose; and returns this Answer:
That as He hath offered, and is still ready, to venture
His own Royal Person, for the Recovery of that Kingdom, if His Parliament shall advise him thereunto, so He
will not deny to contribute any other Assistance He can
to that Service, by parting with any Profit or Advantage
of His own there: And therefore, relying upon the Wisdom of His Parliament, doth consent to every Proposition
now made to Him, without taking Time to examine
whether this Course may not retard the Reducing of that
Kingdom, by exasperating the Rebels, and rendering
them desperate of being received into Grace, if they
shall return to their Obedience.
And his Majesty will be ready to give his Royal Assent
to all such Bills as shall be tendered unto Him by His
Parliament, for the Confirmation of every Particular of
Proceedings against the Bishops.
A Message from the Lords, by Serjeant Whittfield and
The Lords have commanded us to let you know, that
the Twelve Bishops, formerly impeached by this House,
have desired, according to former appointment, that their
Counsel may be heard this Day: And the Lords have
appointed Three of Clock this Afternoon; and thought
fit to acquaint this House therewith.
A Message from the Lords, by Sir Ro. * * * *;
The Lords desire a free Conference, by Committees of
both Houses, presently, in the Painted Chamber, if it may
stand with the Conveniency of this House, concerning the
Prince; and concerning his Majesty's Answer to the Propositions of both Houses, touching the Affairs of Ireland.
Answer returned by the same Messengers; That this
House has taken their Lordships Message into Consideration; and will give a present Meeting as is desired.
Sir H. Vane, Sir Sam. Rolle, Sir Jo. Evelyn, Mr. Pym,
Mr. Hollis, are appointed Reporters and Managers.
Ordered, That the Letters received Yesterday by
Mr. Speaker from Portesmouth; and the Letters taken
in Sussex, that came from France, and were sent to
Mr. Stapley; be referred to the Committee.
Mr. Hollis reports the Conference: The first, concerning his Majesty's Answer to the Propositions, with which
he acquainted them * * * *
Proceedings concerning the Prince.
They thought fit that the Prince should not remove;
and desired this House to join with them in an Order, that
the Prince shall stay at Hampton-court, and not remove to
Greenwich; and that the Lords had appointed..... of
their Members, to attend his Majesty; and to represent...
him the Reasons of this Order.
Resolved, That this House shall join with the Lords in
an Order, to injoin Marquis Hertford not to suffer the
Prince, at this Time, to remove from Hampton-court.
Resolved, That a proportionable Number of this House
shall be appointed to go with the Member appointed to
attend his Majesty, to acquaint him with this Resolution
concerning the Prince; and to represent unto him the
Reasons for it.
Mr. Hollis went up to the Lords, to acquaint them
with the Resolutions of this House, concerning the
A Message from the Lords, by Serjeant Ayloff and
The Lords have agreed unto an Order concerning the
Prince; which they thought fit to communicate to this
House; and to desire their Concurrence herein.
"It is this Day Ordered, by the Lords and Commons,
in Parliament, That the Lord Marquis Hertford take
care that the Prince be not removed from Hampton-court,
until his Lordship's Health permit him to attend That
Charge given to him by his Majesty and the Parliament."
The Order was read, and voted; and assented unto,
upon the Question.
Sir Wm. Poole, Mr. Hide, are appointed to attend his
Majesty with a Member of the Lords House, with the
Reasons of the Resolutions of both Houses, concerning
Ordered, That the Committee concerning Graies-inn
Petition, and Mr. Jackson, shall have Power to send for
Parties, Witnesses, Papers, and Records.
THE Lords and Commons, assembled in Parliament,
are very sensible of the Care and Affection of the Council of Scotland, in offering the Endeavour of so eminent
a Person as the Marquis of Argile, for the Good and
Peace of both Kingdoms; but finding the present State
of Ireland to be such, as that, for want of Residence in
That Kingdom of Scotland, the Rebels of Ireland may
take great Advantages, whereby the Peace of both Kingdoms may be disturbed; and considering the Power to
be given by Commission from his Majesty, to the Marquis of Argile, or his Deputy, to raise Forces for the
Kingdom of Ireland; the Lords and Commons conceive,
the Presence of a Person of his Worth and Power will
be much more necessary, at this Time, in the Kingdom
of Scotland, than his Repair hither: For, however the
Proceedings of Parliament have met with such Obstructions as have put the Affairs of this Kingdom into some
Difficulty, yet they are now in hope, that, by the Providence of God, and the Goodness and Justice of his
Majesty, there will be so happy and speedy an Issue
thereof, as shall produce the Peace and Prosperity of the
Kingdoms: To which they find the Commissioners of
Scotland, here residing, so ready upon all Occasions to
contribute their best Endeavours, with great Wisdom and
Affection, that they desire neither the Lord Chancellor,
(whom we likewise understand to be in the Commission
for the Treaty,) nor the Marquis of Argile, may now be
put to the Incommodity and Trouble of so long a
Journey; they being both Persons of so great Merit and
Honour, as doth only place them in a high Degree of
Estimation throughout this whole Kingdom, especially
the Parliament; and very much increase and confirm
our Confidence, that, by their Advice and Assistance,
with the Authority of the Council of State in Scotland,
the Supplies for Ireland will be furthered in their Transportation, and likewise followed with such Counsel and
Directions, as may advance his Majesty's Service there
for reducing that Kingdom, and preserving the Interest
of this Crown: For which we shall always make a
thankful Acknowledgment and Return.
Bill against the Bishops.
Resolved, upon the ..... That a Message shall be sent
to the Lords to inform them, that there is a Bill depending
here, for the same Offence, against the Twelve Bishops.
Mr. Pym is appointed to carry up to the Lords the
Addition to the Answer to the Scotts Proposition concerning the Marquis of Argile; and to give the Reasons
of the Addition.
He is likewise to acquaint the Lords with the Resolu
tion of this House, to proceed against the Bishops, upon
the same Offence, by Bill.
He is likewise to desire their Lordships Concurrence
to the Ordinance for securing the Monies to such Merchants as set forth Ships to Sea.
He is likewise to desire a free Conference concerning
the Bill of Pluralities.
Ordered, That the Bill concerning the Transportation of
Wools and Woolfells be reported To-morrow Morning.
The humble Petition of the Governor, Assistants, and
Fellowship of Merchants Adventurers of England, was
this Day read: And
It is Ordered, That it be referred to the Committee,
where Sir H. Vane has the Chair, in the same Manner as
the other Petitions are referred.
Ordered, That Those that underwrite shall be directed
to set down the Days of the Month when they underwrite.
Ordered, That it be referred to the Committee, that
brought in the Propositions concerning the Supplies for
Ireland, to consider of the Propositions, and his Majesty's
Answer to them; and to put them into such a Way as may
bring them to a sudden and speedy Effect: And that the
Committee do likewise prepare a Bill concerning them.
A Message from the Lords, by Sir Ro. Rich and
The Lords have appointed the Lord Andover to wait
upon his Majesty with this Paper, concerning the Prince,
so that this House do agree unto it, else not.
"The Lords and Commons, in Parliament, humbly desire His Majesty, that the Prince may not be removed from
Hampton-court; and That for these ensuing Reasons:
1. They conceive His Majesty had resolved, that the
Prince should stay at Hampton-court until his Majesty's
2. That Marquis Hertford, who is appointed by his
Majesty to be Governor of the Prince, and approved of,
and commanded by the Parliament to give his personal
Attendance upon the Prince, is so indisposed in his Health
that he is not able to attend the Prince in any other Place.
3. That the Prince his Removal, at this Time, from
Hampton-court, may be a Cause to promote Jealousy
and Fear in the Heart of his Majesty's good Subjects;
which they conceive very necessary to avoid.
Answer returned by the same Messengers; That the
House has taken into Consideration their Lordships Message; and have read the Paper concerning the Prince;
and do fully agree unto it.
The humble Petition of the Citizens of London, whose
Names are subscribed, was this Day read.
Mr. Speaker told them, "Here hath been presented a
Copy of a Petition, and here is no Hand to it: And the
House doth require those that do avow this Petition, that
they do set their Hands unto it."
After Mr. Benyon, and Two or Three more, had subscribed the Petition, at Bar: Mr. Keightlie coming to
subscribe desired Leave to speak:
Whereupon he and the rest were commanded to
Mr. Kighlie being called in; said, That he desired to
speak, to inform this House, that the Original of this
Petition remains in the Hands of a Member of this
House; which, if it may be produced, will shew the
Hands of divers other Persons subscribed unto it, that
are not here now to avow it:
So, being commanded to withdraw,
The House commanded the Clerk to go forth, and to
see them subscribe to the Petition.
Articles of Agreement between Mr. Hampden, Mr.
Fyries, and Sir Philip Stapleton, and the Mayor of
Carrickfergus, were read.
Ordered, That Mr. Whistler, and Mr. Pierpointe, Mr.
Scowen, Mr. Rolls, and Mr. Vassall, do withdraw, and
peruse these Articles, and the Bond to be entered into
by the Mayor of Carrickfergus; and report their Opinions to this House.
Scotch Officers for Ireland.
Mr. Hampden presents to the House the Names and
Numbers of the Officers of the Two thousand Five hundred Scotts sent over to Ireland; and their Pay: Which
It was Resolved, upon the Question, That Twenty
Shillings per Diem shall be allowed to Colonel Montroe,
as Serjeant Major General:
This House doth declare, That they will allow Pay
to no Serjeant Major General of the Scotts Army, but
Mr. Hampden and Sir Philip Stapleton is required to
go out, and compare the Payments of this List, with the
List of the English Army.
The Clerk brought in the Petition subscribed with
divers Hands, according to the Command of the House.
Mr. Keightley came in to the Bar; and desired to stand
in the good Opinion of this House: That he intended
nothing to stir any Sedition: He knew nothing that was
done in the Common-council; nor that the Matter concerning the Militia, mentioned in the Petition, was settled
by both Houses of Parliament.
Mr. Keightley was again called in: And Mr. Speaker
told him, "The House approves well of what you said
for yourself: You desired you might speak for others;
the House would know the Names of such as you desire
to speak for."
He said, that when he was without, he acquainted his
Fellow-citizens with what he intended to speak for himself; and asked whether he should say the same for them:
And they cried out, a great many of them, in such a
confused Manner, "For me, for me," as he could not
distinguish their Names.
Being asked, by Mr. Speaker, who first advised him to
subscribe the Petition; he said, Mr. Woodward first told
him, that such a Petition lay at Mr. Mosse's Shop: That
he should read it, and, if he liked it, he should underwrite it.
Resolved, upon the Question, That the Examination of
the main Matter of the Petition, preferred and subscribed
by divers Citizens, concerning the Militia of the City, be
referred to the Committee for Informations.
Resolved, upon the Question, That Mr. Keightley
shall be called in.
Resolved, That the Committee for the Informations
shall presently go forth, to examine the Particulars of
the Petition preferred, concerning the Militia of the
Kingdom: And Mr. Whittacre is to report, To-morrow
Morning, the Names of such Persons as upon Examination he shall find to have been the Chief Actors and
Contrivers of this Petition.
Message from the King.
Mr. Speaker acquainted the House, that he had, last
Night, received a Message from his Majesty, in a Letter
from his Majesty, directed to himself: The which Letter
and Message, Mr. Speaker himself read.
Ordered, That this Message from his Majesty be
referred to the same Committee that was appointed
to consider of his Majesty's Message of the Eighth
of September, and that prepared the Answer of this
House unto it, of the Tenth of this Month: And Sir
H. Vane senior is added to this Committee: And are
to meet, To-morrow at Eight of Clock, in the Inner
Court of Wards.
Answer from Lords.
Mr. Pym brings Answer, that, as to the Ordinance for
securing the Monies to the Merchants that set forth
Ships; and, to the Additions to the Answer to the Scotts
Proposition, concerning the Marquis of Argile, they fully
agree unto them: As to the free Conference, concerning
the Bill of Pluralities, they will send Answer.
Book of Rates.
Resolved, upon the Question, That on Monday next,
the House shall be resolved into a Committee, to take
into Consideration the Book of Rates: And Mr. Speaker
is to put the House in mind of this Order.
The House being informed, that there were some Gentlemen of the City of Sarum at the Door, who desired to
present a Petition to this House;
They were called in; and did present One Petition to
this House; and the Copy of another that they had to
deliver to the Lords; of which they desired the Approbation of this House.
They then withdrew.
And their Petition to this House, and the Copy of
the Petition to the Lords, was read.
And they were again called in : And Mr. Speaker told
them, "That... House had read the Petition directed
to them: They find in it a great Expression of Care to
the Publick, and of Respect to this House: For which
they return you Thanks: They have likewise read the
Copy of the Petition to the Lords; and do very well
approve of it: And, for the Delivery of it, leave it to
your own Discretions."
Punishing Attorney General.
1a vice lecta est Billa, An Act for the exemplary Punishment of Sir Edw. Herbert Knight, his Majesty's
Attorney General, for exhibiting false and scandalous
Articles of High Treason, against the Lord Kimbolton,
and Five Members of this House, in the House of Peers.
Ordered, That the House be resolved into a Committee, to proceed with the Bill of Four hundred thousand
Mr. Serjeant Wilde was called to the Chair.
Mr. Speaker resumed the Chair.
Message from the Lords; That they have this Day
received a Petition from divers Londoners, directed to
both Houses; and their Lordships have nominated a
Committee of Thirteen of their own House, and desire
this House to appoint a proportionable Number of their
House; and desire a present Meeting, in the Painted
Chamber, by that Committee, to consider of that Petition.
Mr. Speaker returned this Answer;
That this House will appoint a proportionable Number, and give a Meeting, as is desired.
Ordered, That Mr. Strode and Mr. Wheeler do return
Thanks to Mr. Marshall and Mr. Calamy, from this
House, for their Pains taken in the Two Sermons on this
last Fast Day, and to desire them, from this House, to
print their Sermons.
Committee of both Houses.
The Committee, formerly appointed for Informations,
was the Committee appointed to meet with the Committee
of the Lords; with the Addition of the Lord Falkland,
Mr. Purefrey, Sir H. Vane junior, Mr. Cage, Sir Tho.
Bowyer, Sir Sam. Rolle, Mr. Martin, Mr. Goodwyn, Mr.
Browne, Sir Ro. Coke, Sir Tho. Barrington, Sir H. Ludlow.
General of Scotch Army.
Upon Mr. Pym's Report from the Committee for Irish
It was Resolved, upon the Question, That this House
holds it fit, that Eight Pounds per Diem shall be allowed
to the General of the Scotts Army.
Resolved, That this House holds it fit, to allow Five
Pounds per Diem, to the Lieutenant General of the Scotts
That this House holds it fit to allow Twenty Shillings
per Diem, to the Quarter-master General of the Scotts
Resolved, upon the Question, That the House shall
be resolved into a Committee, peremptorily, To-morrow
at Ten of Clock, to proceed with the Bill of Four hundred thousand Pounds; and that no Motion shall
intervene: And Mr. Speaker is to put the House in mind
of this Order.
Ordered, That the Three Ships in the Pay of this
House, and taken up at Bristoll, shall be employed for
the Guard of the Sea Coasts of Munster; and shall follow
such Directions, as, from time to time, they shall receive,
either from the Lord President of Munster, or the Lord
Lieutenant of Ireland.
Mr. Hampden presented the Articles of Agreement
between the Commissioners of this House appointed to
treat with the Scotts Commissioners.
Articles of Agreement, made and concluded upon the
Twenty-fourth Day of February, Anno Domini 1641,
between Nath. Fienis Esquire, Sir Philip Stapilton
Knight, and John Hampden Esquire, Members of the
Honourable House of Commons, by Direction of the
said House of Commons, of the One Part; and John
Davies, of Carrickfergus, Merchant, of the other
IMPRIMIS, The said John Davies doth undertake,
promise, and agree, unto and with the said Nath. Fienis,
Sir Philip Stapilton, and John Hampden, and every of
them, to furnish and deliver at Carrickfergus, good and
wholesome Bread, Beef, Butter, and Cheese, sufficient
for the Victualling of his Majesty's Forces of English and
Scottish, in the Province of Ulster, containing about Six
thousand Men, be they more or less, for the Space of
Three Months, at these Rates following; that is to say,
Bread at One Penny Half-penny per Pound; Beef One
Penny Half-penny per Pound; Butter Four Pence Halfpenny per Pound, and Cheese One thousand Two hundred and three for Two-pence Half-penny: And that if
the said John Davis shall not be able to provide sufficient,
in One Kind, of the said Provisions, excepting Bread, he
shall make up the same in some other of the said Provisions, at the said respective Rates. In Consideration
whereof, the said Nathaniel Fienns, Sir Philip Stapilton,
and John Hampden, do promise and agree to deliver and
pay unto the said John Davis, on or before the Twenty
sixth of this Instant February, the full and just Sum of
Four thousand Pounds of lawful English Money.
Item, The said John Davis for himself, his Executors,
Administrators, and for every of them, doth covenant,
promise, and agree, to and with the said Nathanael Fines,
Sir Philip Stapilton, and John Hampden, and every of
them, That at or before the Twenty-fourth Day of July
next ensuing the Date of these Presents, he the said John
Davis, his Executors and Administrators, shall and will
content, satisfy and pay unto the said Nathanael Fynes,
Sir Philip Stapilton, and John Hampden, some or One of
them, the full and just Sum of Four thousand Pounds,
in ready Money, or in good Debts, of the Soldiers of the
said Army, for such Provisions by him unto them deli-vered, signified and attested by Warrant, in Writing,
under the Hand of the chief Commander of the said
Forces or Army there; and shall every Week deliver
unto the Treasurer at Wars, appointed for the said Army,
or to his Deputy or Deputies, an Account in Writing,
under his Hand, of all such Provisions as he shall so
deliver unto the Soldiers upon Trust; and shall shew
unto the said Treasurer, his Deputy or Deputies, the
Warrants upon which the same was delivered.
Resolved, upon the Question, That this House doth
agree, that these shall be the Articles between the Parties aforesaid, and Mr. Davis Victualler for Carrickfergus.
Mr. Pym reporteth from the Committee appointed to
consider of the Letters from Spaine, intercepted in Cornewall, going for Ireland;
1. "That some of the Letters take notice of Instructions
from a Jesuit called Father S., and sent by Seven Jesuits and Priests, and taken at Silly, by Mr. Bassett the
Vice Admiral: They were directed to go to Ulster in
Ireland, to speak with the Earl of Antrim, Sir Alex. Gurdon, and Sir Geo. Hambleton; which Sir Geo. Hambleton,
we conceive, is That Man that had his Majesty's Warrant to pass into Ireland, and who is now stayed: He
hath written Directions to go to certain Lords in Scotland,
and to speak with Sir Alexander Seaton, Marquis Huntley's Servant, and others; but the Instructions what to
impart to those Persons were not there mentioned. - One
Letter, dated 1° Januarii, wherein were these Words:
"That here is a Report, Four thousand Irish are up for
their Faith; and that the English Ambassador is turned
Catholick, and goeth to Mass at Madrid:" This was
directed to one at Wexford: The other Letter, dated
13° Januarii, Thirteen Days after the former, deelaring
the like Report of the English Ambassador. - Then there
was a Commission, subscribed C. H. S. by Serjeant Major
Patricke, to fill up the Companies of Scottish Soldiers:
Then they write of several small Sums, and Ornaments
of Chapels, and divers Relicks, addressed from thence for
Ireland: Then Letters to other Persons, commanding
them to write to the Spanish Ambassador out of Scotland
and Ireland, to give him Thanks, and to tell him the King
his Master thanks him: Then of drawing Men to the Sea
Coasts; and that because Priests are scarce in Scotland,
some English and Irish shall be sent there this Summer.
Ordered, That the Priests, and other Persons, bound
for Ireland, and taken in Cornewall by Mr. Bassett the
Vice Admiral, shall be tried at this next general Assizes
for Cornewall: And the special Care hereof is recommended to the Judges of that Circuit: And the Examinations and Letters concerning those Persons, are ordered to be referred to Mr. Prideaux, Mr. Nicolls, Sir
Ro. Cooke, Sir Jo. Bamfeild, Mr. Hill, to peruse the
same, and to collect out of it what is material therein to
be insisted upon for matter... Evidence, at the Trial
of the said Persons: And are to meet To-morrow, at
Eight... Clock, in the Court of Wards.
Ordered, That Thanks be returned to Mr. Bassett,
for this his good and acceptable Service.
Mr. Pym reporteth from the Committee for Irish Affairs, the Names of the Members of this House agreed
upon by them, to be Commissioners for the Speeding
and Dispatching of the Businesses for Ireland; viz.
Mr. Hollis, Mr. Pym, Mr. Martyn, Sir Walt. Erle, Mr.
Cromwell, Sir Rob. Harley, Sir Jo. Mericke, Sir Rob.
Cooke, Sir Hen. Vane, junior, Mr. Wallopp, Sir. Jo. Evelyn,
Sir Rob. Parkehurst, Mr. Reynolds, Sir Ric. Cave.
Resolved, upon the Question, That this House doth
assent unto, and approve of, these Persons to be the
Commissioners for the Irish Affairs.
King's Answer respecting Mr. Pym's Speech.
CHARLES Rex. TRUSTY and well-beloved, We greet you well.
We have, here inclosed, sent our Reply to the Answer
of Our House of Commons, touching such Persons as
have been licensed by Us to go into Ireland; which
Our Will and Command is, that you deliver to be read
in Our said House: For which, this shall be your
Warrant. Given at Our Court at Dover, the 22th of
AS His Majesty hath expressed a great Desire to give
His House of Commons all possible Satisfaction to all
their just Requests, and a Readiness to certify or retract
any thing done by Himself, which might seem to trench
upon their Privileges, by any Mistake of His; so He
doubts not they will be ready, upon all Occasions, to
manifest an equal Tenderness and Regard of his Majesty's Honour and Reputation with His good Subjects:
And therefore His Majesty expects they should review
His Message of the Seventh of this Month, concerning
a Passage in Mr. Pym's Speech; and their Answer sent
to His Majesty by some of their Members on the Tenth
of the same, with which His Majesty can by no Means
His Majesty's Exception in that Message, was, that it
was affirmed in that Speech, that since the Stop upon
the Ports against all Irish Papists, by both Houses, many
of the Chief Commanders, now in the Head of the Rebels, have been suffered to pass by his Majesty's immediate Warrant.
To this the Answer is, "That the Speech mentioned
in that Message to be delivered by Mr. Pym, was printed
by their Order; and that what was therein delivered was
agreeable to the Sense of the House: That they have received divers Advertisement, concerning several Persons,
Irish Papists, and others, who have obtained His Majesty's immediate Warrant for their Passing into Ireland,
since the Order of Restraint of both Houses; some of
which, they have been informed, since their coming into
Ireland, have joined with the Rebels, and been Commanders amongst them."
His Majesty is most assured no such Person hath passed
by his Warrant or Privity: And then He desires His
House of Commons to consider, whether such a general
Information and Advertisement, in which there is not so
much as the Name of any particular Person mentioned,
be Ground enough for such a direct and positive Affirmation as is made in that Speech; which, in respect of
the Place and Person, and being now acknowledged to
be agreeable to the Sense of the House, is of that Authority, that His Majesty may suffer in the Affections of
many of His good Subjects, and fall under a possible
Construction (considering the many scandalous Pamphlets to such Purpose) of not being sensible enough of that
Rebellion, so horrid and odious to all Christians; by
which, in this Distraction, such a Danger might possibly
ensue to His Majesty's Person and Estate, as He is well
assured His House of Commons will use their utmost
Endeavours to prevent: And therefore His Majesty thinks
it very necessary, and expects, that they name the Persons, who, by His Majesty's Licence, have passed into
Ireland, and are now there, in the Head of the Rebels;
or that if upon their Examination, they do not find particular Evidence to prove that Assertion (as His Majesty
is confident they never can) as this Affirmation, which
may reflect upon His Majesty, is very publick; so they
will publish such a Declaration, whereby that Mistake
may be discovered; His Majesty being the more tender,
in that Particular, which hath reference to Ireland, as
being most assured, that He hath been, and is, from His
Soul, resolved to discharge His Duty, which God will
require at His Hands, for the Relief of His poor Protestant Subjects there; and the utter Rooting out of that
Rebellion: So That Service hath not suffered any but
necessary Delays, by any Act of His Majesty, for the
Want of any thing proposed to His Majesty, or within
His Majesty's Power to do.
For the Persons named in the Answer, His Majesty
saith, that Colonel Butler, and the Son of the Lord Nettersfeild, obtained his Warrants for their Passage into
Ireland at His Majesty's being in Scotland; which was
long, as His Majesty thinks, before the Order of both
Houses; His Majesty knowing the former of them to be
one who hath always made Professions to His Service,
and to be Uncle to the Earl of Ormond, of whose Affection to the Protestant Religion, and His Majesty's
Service, His Majesty hath great Cause to be assured;
and the latter being a Person of whom, at that Time,
there was no Suspicion, to his Majesty's Knowledge:
For the other, it may be they have obtained Warrants
from His Majesty since the said Order: But His Majesty
assures the Parliament, that he had no Intimation of such
an Order, till after Stay made of Sir George Hamilton,
who was the last that had any Licence from His Majesty
to pass for Ireland.
And His Majesty having, since this Answer from the
House of Commons, used all possible Means, by the
Examining His own Memory, and the Notes of His
Secretaries, to find what Warrants have been granted
by Him, and to what Persons, doth not find that He
hath granted any to any Irish, but those who are named
by the House of Commons; and, in December last, to
the Earl of St. Albones, and to Two of his Servants, and
to one Walter Tirrel, a poor Man; they being such as
His Majesty is assured they are not with the Rebels,
and much less chief Commanders over them: And
though (it may be) the Persons named by the House of
Commons are Papists, yet his Majesty, at that Time,
thought it not fit, in respect of their Alliance in that
Kingdom to such Persons of great Power of whom His
Majesty hoped well, to discover any Suspicion of them;
the Lords Justices having declared by their Letters,
(which Letters were not disaproved of by the Parliament
here) that they were so far from Owing of publick Jealousy of all Papists there, that they had thought fit to
put Arms into the Hands of divers Noblemen of the Pale
of that Religion, who made Profession to his Majesty's
Service, and desired the same: And since so great a
Trust reposed in some of the Lords of that Religion,
was not disapproved by the Parliament here, his Majesty could not imagine it unsafe or unfit for Him, to
give Licences to some few to pass into that Kingdom;
who, though Papists, professed due Allegiance and Loyalty to his Majesty.
And therefore, unless the First Affirmation of the House
of Commons can be made good by some Particulars, His
Majesty doth not know, that his Ministers have failed in
their Diligence and Faithfulness to His Majesty in this
Point; or that His Honour hath suffered so much by
any Act of His own, as that it needs be vindicated, for
the Time past, by any other Way than such a Declaration: Which he expects from this House, as, in Duty
and Justice, due to His Majesty.