House of Commons Journal Volume 2: 27 November 1640

Journal of the House of Commons: Volume 2, 1640-1643. Originally published by His Majesty's Stationery Office, London, 1802.

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'House of Commons Journal Volume 2: 27 November 1640', in Journal of the House of Commons: Volume 2, 1640-1643, (London, 1802) pp. 37-38. British History Online https://www.british-history.ac.uk/commons-jrnl/vol2/pp37-38 [accessed 18 March 2024]

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Die Veneris, 27 Nov. 1640.

PRAYERS.

Draining Fens.

SIR Nich. Slaninge, a Member of this House, delivered in a Petition, concerning the Draining of Fens of the Right honourable the Earl of Lindsey; but, because the House was then very thin, he was required to move the House in it, when it was full.

Boeve's Nat.

1a vice lecta, An Act for the Naturalizing of James Boeve.

Clitherowe, &c. Manors.

1a vice lecta, An Act concerning his Majesty's Tenants of divers his Manors of Clitherowe, Ichtenhill, #38;c.

This Bill to be read on Tuesday Morning next.

Grievances.

Mr. Glinne reports from the Grand Committee for Grievances, that Quarterman, and Two others, on the Behalf of several other Vintners, did exhibit a Petition to this House against Alderman Abell; who, having Notice thereof, called a Hall; and summoned Quarterman, &c.; who appeared there:-The Alderman told them, it was a saucy Part in them, to prefer a Petition to the Parliament House, without acquainting the Company first; and thereupon caused an Oath to be read unto them; whereby they were enjoined not to complain elsewhere, till they had first complained in their own Hall.-Rowland Wilson did say the same, though not so fully.-They did likewise accuse one Wm. Conrades; He did not only chide them, but told James Masters, he was a saucy Knave for his Pains. The Opinion of the Committee is, that it is a very ill Example, and deserveth a high Punishment; and leaveth it to the House, what they think fit to be done.

Upon this Report, it was Ordered, That Alderman Abell, Rowland Wilson, and Wm. Conradus, be sent for hither forthwith, as Delinquents, by the Serjeant at Arms attending on this House; to answer such Matters as shall be objected against them.

It is likewise Ordered, That the Vintners, who prosecute the Business against Aldermen Abell, shall have Copies of such Orders, and other Papers, as they shall think fit, which are now locked up in Alderman Abell's Trunk, which he hath brought hither, and of which he hath the Key, the better to perfect their Charge against him.

It is likewise Ordered, That Robert Quarterman, James Mason, Wm. Bellamy, and Roger Kilvert, be summoned to attend this House, as Witnesses, to give their Testimony, when the House shall require, in the Case concerning Alderman Abell, &c.

Proceedings against James.

Sir Arth. Ingram's Report from the Committee that was appointed to examine the Fact of John James, committed upon Mr. Hayward:

That in his Lodgings they found a Trunk, and Cabinet, and several Conveyances and Leases unto him; also Bonds and Bills, of no great Value; a Purse, with Gold in it (Five Pounds); also Seventeen Pounds in a Stocking, several Letters of no Note, save One, subscribed by Toby Mathew; which was, to counsel him from committing such Outrages as it seems he had then done.-"The Man of the House shewed us a Sword and Dagger of his, which stuck up in the Chamber; saying, there was, That Day he did the Fact, another Dagger, which, it seems, he took to do that Mischief he did: That Day he did it, he was not in any Distemper, but of good Condition: The Party, upon whom he committed the Fact, was one employed by the House, then in Service of the House, coming with a Book in his Hand to the Committee, of the Papists Names about Westminster."

Therefore the Committee thinks fit, that a Bill be prepared against him in this House, that this Fact of his may be made Felony.

After some Debate, that rose from this Report, the House having appointed an important Business for this Day, this whole Matter, with all the Circumstances, were referred to the former Committee; and they were likewise to take into Consideration his Lunacy: And there were added to That Committee, Mr. Maynard, Mr. Hampden, Mr. Palmer, Mr. Bagshaw, Sir Ben. Rudyard, Mr. Strode, Mr. St. Johns, Mr. Whitehead: And they are to meet on Monday in the Afternoon, at Two of Clock, in the Court of Wards.

Warner's Petition.

Ordered, Samuel Warner to have his Petition again.

Chambers' Petition.

Ordered, Mr. Chambers' Petition to be read on Wednesday Morning next.

Supply Bill.

Ordered, The Committee for the Bill of granting One hundred thousand Pounds, to meet this Afternoon, at Two of Clock, in the Exchequer-chamber: And Those that are of the Committee, are especially enjoined to attend that Committee.

St. Gregory's Church.

Ordered, The Committee for the Church of St. Gregorie's by Paule's, to meet this Afternoon, at Two of Clock, in the Exchequer-court.

Receiver of Supply.

Sir Wm. Uvedall is appointed to receive both the Money for the King's Army, and the Money for the Relief of the Northern Counties; and He, and whom he shall appoint, are to go forthwith in hand with the Telling of the Money; and to seal it up, till the Committee has agreed the Conditions of the Bonds.

Property of the Subject.

Mr. Palmer, Mr. St. Johns, Mr. Selden, Mr. Glinne, Mr. Perd, Sir Guy Palmes, Mr. Whistler, Mr. Hampden, Sir Walther Erle, Mr. White, Sir Jo. Culpepper, Mr. Rolles, Mr. Solicitor, Sir Fr. Seymour, Mr. Corbett, Mr. Maynard, Mr. Whitelock, Mr. Pimme, Mr. Grimston, Sir Jo. Evelyn;

This Committee is to take into Consideration the several Commissions, and the several Judgments and Decrees in the Exchequer-chamber, concerning either illegal Taxes, or the Property of the Goods of the Subjects, and the Proceedings thereon; and also, the Judgments, Resolutions, and Proceedings in Parliament upon them; and to present the State of them to this House, that they may proceed upon them in such a Way, as shall be fit to present them to the Lords: And they are likewise to consider the Proceedings in Parliament upon the Petition of Right, and the Additions unto it: And they are to consider those Proceedings that were in the Exchequer, since the Death of King James, upon the Statute of Tonage and Poundage, granted unto him for Life; and the Proceedings upon Replevyings, brought by those that had their Goods detained by Colour of that Statute; and to consider the Proceedings in Parliament concerning Dr. Manwaring; and have Power to send for any Papers, Records, Parties, Witnesses, or any thing that they shall think may conduce to this Business; and are to meet To-morrow in the Afternoon at Two of Clock, in the Exchequer-court.

Impeachment of Earl of Straford.

A Message from the Lords, by J. Littleton, and J. Bartley;

The Lords desire a Conference (by a Committee of Thirty of their House, with a proportionable Number of this House) concerning the Message that was brought unto them by Mr. Pimme, touching the Examination of their Members, in the Accusation of the Earl of Straford; and desire a free Conference, touching the last point of that Message, "that some of the Members of this House should be present at the Examination:" and they desire it this Morning, in the Painted Chamber, if it may stand with the Conveniency of this House.

Answer returned by the same Messengers, that this House has taken into Consideration their Lordships Message; and will, in convenient Time, return Answer by Messengers of their own.

Petition against George.

Mr. George, a Member of this House, has Time granted him till To-morrow Morning, to make answer to the Particulars of the Petition exhibited against him by Tho. Rich, Esquire.

Committee for Precedents.

Mr. St. John, Mr. Selden, Mr. Palmer, Mr. Pimme, Sir. Jo. Culpepper, Mr. Grimston, Sir Simonds D'Ewes;

This Committee, or any Two of them, are appointed to view those Precedents cited by Mr. St. Johns, or any other, that may conduce to that Business; and to present the State of them to the House To-morrow Morning; and are to meet this Afternoon, at Three of Clock, in the Treasury-chamber.