House of Commons Journal Volume 2: 17 November 1641

Journal of the House of Commons: Volume 2, 1640-1643. Originally published by His Majesty's Stationery Office, London, 1802.

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'House of Commons Journal Volume 2: 17 November 1641', in Journal of the House of Commons: Volume 2, 1640-1643, (London, 1802) pp. 318-319. British History Online https://www.british-history.ac.uk/commons-jrnl/vol2/pp318-319 [accessed 25 April 2024]

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Die Mercurii, 17; Nov. 1641.

PRAYERS.

Members to take their Places.

ORDERED, That the Serjeant shall desire the Gentlemen Members of the House to take their Places, when they come into the House, and not to stop up the Passage in the time of Prayers.

Parliament Guards.

Ordered, That Sir John Hippisley and Sir John Francklyn shall appoint some Guards, with Halberts, to stand in the Places most convenient for the Safety of this Place.

Persons to be apprehended.

Ordered, That John Sherborne the elder, and John Sherborne the younger, be forthwith apprehended, and taken into safe Custody, and brought to the House, to answer such things as shall be objected against them.

Proceedings concerning the Plot.

The Examination of Mr. Daniel Oneale, taken before the Lords Committees, upon Saturday Nov. 13th 1641, was read.

The Examination of Sir Jacob Ashley, taken before the Lords Committees, this 29th of Oct. 1641, was read.

The Examination of Sir John Conyers, taken, upon Oath, before the Lords Committees, upon Friday the 29th of Oct. 1641, was read bis.

The Second Examination of Sir John Conyers, taken before the Lords Committees, upon Saturday the 30th of Oct. bis lecta.

The Examination of Captain Wm. Legg, taken upon Oath, before the Lords Committees, upon Saturday the 30th of Oct. 1641, bis lecta.

The Examination of Sir Foulk Huncks, taken before the Lords Committees, on Friday the Twenty-ninth of October 1641, was read.

The Examination of Sir Charles Lucas, Serjeant Major to Sir Tho. Lucas his Regiment of Horse, taken before the Lords Committees, upon Friday the 29th of Oct. 1641....

The humble Petition of Mr. Daniel Oneile was read.

Resolved, upon the Question, That, upon the Examinations now read, there is sufficient Evidence for this House to believe, that there was a Second Design to bring up the Army against the Parliament; and an Intention to make the Scotch Army stand as neutral.

Resolved, upon the Question, That the Treasurer of the Army shall pay unto Mr. Daniel Oneale Five Pounds weekly, for his present Maintenance, to begin from the time of his Commitment, and to continue during the Pleasure of this House, out of the Arrears of his Pay; and that an Acquittance under his Hands shall be a sufficient Discharge to the Treasurer.

Ordered, That, on Monday next at Ten of Clock, the Business concerning Mr. Piercy, Mr. Jermyn, Mr. Oneile, and the rest, shall be taken into farther Consideration: And Mr. Speaker is to put the House in mind of this Order.

Mr. Solicitor, Mr. Glyn, Mr. Maynard, Mr. Palmer, Mr. Whitlock, Serjeant Wilde, Mr. Whistler, Mr. Hide, are to take into Consideration the Examinations now read, and the Examinations in the former Business; and to present them to the House, in the best and readiest Way for them to proceed.

Ordered, That Notice be given to the Bail of Mr. Willmott, Mr. Ashburneham, and the rest, that they be here on Monday next.

Irish Affairs.

A Form of a Commission, to be issued unto Colonels, and other Officers, for the Raising of Men for the Service of Ireland, under the Hand of the Earl of Leicester, Lord Lieutenant of Ireland, was read; and put to the Question; and assented unto.

Resolved, upon the Question, That the Wages of a Colonel of the new Levies shall be Four-and-Twenty Shillings per diem, according to the State presented by the Committee.

Resolved, upon the Question, That the Wages of a Captain of the new Levies shall be Twelve Shillings per diem, according to the State presented by the Committee.

Resolved, upon the Question, That Sir Simon Harcourt, as Commander of the Forces in Dublyn, shall have Twenty Shillings per diem allowed him, over and above his other Entertainments.

Resolved, upon the Question, That Four hundred Fiftyseven Pounds Six Shillings and Eight-pence, being a Month's Pay, shall be advanced to the Officers of Sir Simon Harcourt's Regiment.

Resolved, upon the Question, That the House will give no Allowance of the Hundred-and-one Pounds, demanded for the Providing of Halberds, Ensigns, Partizans, &c.

Resolved, upon the Question, That this House holds it fit, that the Lord Macquire, and Macmahoun, now Prisoners in Dublyn, shall be sent over hither, in safe Custody.

Resolved, upon the Question, That this House holds it fit, that the Post between Bcamaris and Holyhead shall be set up again, and paid as formerly it was.

Mr. Glyn is desired to prepare a Letter, to be sent from both Houses to Mr. Buckley, and some other Persons of Quality in those Part, for the better Effecting of this Business.

Resolved, upon the Question, That this House holds it fit, that there should be a settled Post set up between Carlell and Port Patrick And his Majesty is to be moved, that he will give Order for this to the State in Scotland.

'Tis referred to the Committee for Irish Affairs, to consider what Sum of Money is fit to be advanced to the Master of the Ordnance, for Transporting of the Arms.

Ordered, That Four thousand Pounds shall be imprested to the Treasurers of the Navy, towards the Victualing, Furnishing, and setting forth to Sea, of the Four Ships, that are appointed for the present Service of Ireland, out of the Fifty thousand Pounds that is to come from the City for the Occasions of Ireland; and is to be repaid out of the Money that shall hereafter come in upon the Bill of Tonage and Poundage.

Ordered, That it be recommended to the Lord Admiral, to require the Officers of the Navy to make all Speed in furnishing and providing, and setting forth to Sea, the Ships appointed for the present Service of Ireland.

Securing Papists, &c.

Sir John Colpeper, Sir Walth. Erle, Mr. Glyn, Mr. Pym, Mr. Hampden, Mr. Hollis, Serjeant Wilde, Mr. Strode;

This Committee is presently to withdraw; and, upon the Debate now had, to prepare Reasons to be presented unto the Lords, at a Conference, concerning the Securing the Persons of Papists: And likewise to prepare Reasons for putting the Custody of the Isle of Wight into other Hands.

Jesus Col. Cambridge.

Whereas the Master and Fellows of Jesus College in Cambridge, by Order from the Committee for the Universities, brought up their Statutes and Books of Accompt. &c. It is this Day Ordered, That Sir Ro. Harley who sits in the Chair for that Committee, shall deliver unto them their Statutes, Books of Accompt, &c.

Safety of the Kingdom.

A Message from the Lords, by Dr. Bennett and Dr. Littleton;

The Lords desire a free Conference, by a Committee of both Houses, so soon as may stand with the Conveniency of this House, concerning the Safety of England and Ireland.

Answer returned by the same Messengers; that this House will speedily, this Night, send Answer by Messengers of their own.

Letter read.

A Letter from Sir John Coke to Mr. Speaker, was read.

Securing Papists, &c.

Mr. Pym reports from the Committee that was appointed to prepare Reasons for securing the Persons of Papists, and for putting the Custody of ...Isle of Wight into other Hands-

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Mr. Martin is to go to the Lords, to acquaint their Lordships, that this House is ready to give their Lordships a Meeting, at a free Conference, upon the Subject desired by their Lordships: And likewise to acquaint them, that this House has some Propositions, upon the same Subject, to make on their Part.-

Resolved, upon the Question, That the Reasons offered by the Committee shall be the Grounds and Reasons offered, at a Conference, to the Lords, for securing the Persons of Papists.

Resolved, upon the Question, That that Part, which concerns the Earl of Portland, shall be an Head of this Conference.

Mr. Martin brings Answer from the Lords, that their Lordships are ready to give a Meeting, at a free Conference, by a Committee of both Houses, presently, in the Painted Chamber.

Mr. Pym, Mr. Hollis, and the rest of the Committee appointed to prepare Heads for this Conference, are likewise appointed Managers of this Conference.

Searching for Papists.

Ordered, That the Serjeant shall search the House, where it is alledged that some Papists lodge that came lately to Town; and all other Houses, where it shall be informed that any suspected Persons do lodge: And that he require the Assistance of the Lord Mayor, and other his Majesty's Officers, to be aiding unto him, for the better Execution of this Warrant: And that he apprehend such as he shall find, and keep in safe Custody, till the farther Pleasure of the House be known.

Ditto.

Ordered, That the Lord Mayor and Sheriffs for the City of London, and the Justices of Peace for the City of Westminster, and the Liberties; and for the County of Midd. shall be required from this House, respectively, to cause a general Search to be made this Night, in all Places, for Papists, ... suspected Persons; and such as they shall find, to apprehend, and commit to safe Custody. And that they give a strict Command, that the Watches be doubled; and that they make their Rounds diligently, and make stay of all suspected Persons.